Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-09-25 Thread Levy, Jeremy
eremy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted RoeloffzenSent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:01 AMTo: wicket-userSubject: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components... Hello all,As some of you may or may not know, we are the two student who are currently working on our

[Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-09-25 Thread Ted Roeloffzen
Hello all,As some of you may or may not know, we are the two student who are currently working on our grad project. Our assigment is to create a full-blown CMS for Wicket or at least some components. I was reading some old mails from the mailinglist and a lot of people had ideas and suggestions and

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-30 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
* Igor Vaynberg: > why not use a dao layer to abstract the persistence - that way > it can also be pluggable JCR and Jackrabbit rock, I've been using it with Cocoon, and it's great. However I don't think it's a good idea to have an abstraction of the persistence, because: 1) JCR is already an

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-30 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Though... in this case you might even argue that directly using jsr170 is just perfect as it is an abstraction for storage itself. Why add another layer to something that is already specced and pluggable. Eelco On 8/30/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure. What I mean by plannin

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-30 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Sure. What I mean by planning for it, is that people could at least take a look at what you'd need for jsr170 so that you don't design that layer in such a fashion that it shuts you out from jsr170 in the future. Eelco On 8/29/06, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > why not use a dao laye

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Igor Vaynberg
why not use a dao layer to abstract the persistence - that way it can also be pluggablefor light weight deployments even saving to filesystem might be enough-IgorOn 8/29/06, Troy MacNeil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: JackRabbit looks very interesting, I'll have to download and play withit. I'm not co

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Troy MacNeil
JackRabbit looks very interesting, I'll have to download and play with it. I'm not convinced it's ideal for every application though, maybe let the plug-in decide what persistence method it wants/needs? Your other points are well taken as well. I assume there will be a lot of rewrites to fix those

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Justin Lee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 iirc, that's what jboss portal uses. Eelco Hillenius wrote: >> 4) I'm not the greatest standards buff on earth, but in this case, >> using JSR 170 would make sense imo. > > http://jackrabbit.apache.org/ looks like a nice implementation of this.

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2006-08-29 Thread Eelco Hillenius
> 4) I'm not the greatest standards buff on earth, but in this case, > using JSR 170 would make sense imo. http://jackrabbit.apache.org/ looks like a nice implementation of this. Eelco - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Nee

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 8/29/06, Troy MacNeil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > De-lurking twice in one day, rare indeed;) I'm very much in favour of > the "toolkit with a capable sample application" approach though. > > When I've used PHP I've found that the concept of a plug-in for a PHP > CMS is very informal and undefin

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Justin Lee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Throw in JSR-170 in the mix and have some fun... Troy MacNeil wrote: > De-lurking twice in one day, rare indeed;) I'm very much in favour of > the "toolkit with a capable sample application" approach though. > > When I've used PHP I've found th

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Troy MacNeil
De-lurking twice in one day, rare indeed;) I'm very much in favour of the "toolkit with a capable sample application" approach though. When I've used PHP I've found that the concept of a plug-in for a PHP CMS is very informal and undefined. If you want to create a file upload plug-in you write a

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Hugh Willson
Hi Erik! I understand your CMS component approach, and it makes a lot of sense. I also, however, do see the benefit of creating a full blown CMS in Wicket. I've used a lot of different open sources CMS', and I really have yet to find one created using Java that I like. PHP holds the crown when

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Of cource, we wait for our two students to arrive... I'll try to get them involved earlier though, but their contract only starts next week. Martijn On 8/29/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I intend to write a comments component for my application anyway > > (because I need it),

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Eelco Hillenius
> I intend to write a comments component for my application anyway > (because I need it), so that could serve as a starting point for further > discussions. Or, slightly rephrased, how do we start? It should start like: 1) someone should take the lead; 2) start defining use cases, and preferably a

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Hugh Willson
Hi all! I would also be interested in helping out with a Wicket based CMS solution. I've been thinking about this a lot lately, but haven't really made it too far on my own due to time constraints. It's seems like this is a common problem with others, so I definitely like the idea of pooling our

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Erik Brakkee
> CMS is something that I have been very interested in. I'd love to have > such a thing, but have avoided building one myself because, as you say, > I do have other projects that I work on. Starting up a CMS by myself > would take more time than I could give. But to collaborate on a CMS > with

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Troy MacNeil
I'm also interested, I've been putting of a similar project for a while now and a group effort may help me put the lazy days of Summer behind me:) On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 13:16 -0500, Philip A. Chapman wrote: > I would be willing to help work on such a project. > > On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 19:18 -0

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Philip A. Chapman
Bugeater, is very usable, but could still still be improved, I am sure. I have a few ideas, but am just rolling them around in my head for now. Bugme has stalled. A few friends and I got busy and it's just layed there. I think it'd still be great to get going. CMS is something that I have been

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Igor Vaynberg
you mean you already finished bugme and bugeater?-IgorOn 8/29/06, Philip A. Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I would be willing to help work on such a project. On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 19:18 -0300, Alexandre Bairos wrote: I´m also interested. Definitely it would be great to coordina

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Philip A. Chapman
I would be willing to help work on such a project. On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 19:18 -0300, Alexandre Bairos wrote: I´m also interested. Definitely it would be great to coordinate efforts. On 8/28/06, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: heh, wicket seems like

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-28 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Several. For instance http://wiki.ops4j.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=pax:wicket-basics. Read more on http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/OSGi (don't know how up-to-date that is, we had a couple of improvements for classloading the last few versions). Eelco On 8/28/06, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-28 Thread Igor Vaynberg
i know apache felix (osgi r4/5?) people have done some integration work with wicket.-IgorOn 8/28/06, Gustavo Santucho < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > real-time pluggable bundlesOr the Netbeans Runtime Container. http://dvbcentral.sourceforge.net/netbeans-runtime.html-Gustavo.-

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-28 Thread Gustavo Santucho
> real-time pluggable bundles Or the Netbeans Runtime Container. http://dvbcentral.sourceforge.net/netbeans-runtime.html - Gustavo. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff

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2006-08-28 Thread Upayavira
Eelco Hillenius wrote: >> i found this: http://code.google.com/p/cms12/ you might want to get in touch >> with the author > > Here's the blog http://www.octonary.com/blog/ > >> sounds like we need to pull the efforts together on this one since there are >> so many ppl interested. > > I'd be inte

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-28 Thread Eelco Hillenius
> i found this: http://code.google.com/p/cms12/ you might want to get in touch > with the author Here's the blog http://www.octonary.com/blog/ > sounds like we need to pull the efforts together on this one since there are > so many ppl interested. I'd be interested in helping out here and there

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-28 Thread Alexandre Bairos
I´m also interested. Definitely it would be great to coordinate efforts.On 8/28/06, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:heh, wicket seems like /the/ framework for writing cms :) there has been a lot of talk but not a whole lot of action.i found this: http://code.google.com/p/cms12/ you might

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-28 Thread Igor Vaynberg
heh, wicket seems like /the/ framework for writing cms :)there has been a lot of talk but not a whole lot of action.i found this: http://code.google.com/p/cms12/ you might want to get in touch with the authora few students from Topicus are going to write one as a grad project - martijn has more de

[Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-28 Thread Erik Brakkee
Hi, I am considering to develop reusable Content Management System like components for polls, comments, blogs, news items, frequently asked questions, and links. Each component would have an interface for users and administrators. Access for regular users would be restricted to certain roles or