[Wikimedia-l] RfC regarding the Meta CU Policy

Have started a RfC on clarifying the CU policy on meta https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_comment/Clarification_to_CU_policy#Discuss Best -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine ___ Wikimedia-l m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

If the Foundation is seen to be directing the activities of a chapter at the proposed level of micro-management then it would jeopardise the legal status both of the Foundation (in terms of their safe harbour status) and of the chapter (as an independent and charitable body). The Foundation is fre

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Strategy] August 1: Strategy update - Preparing for Wikimania, the strategic direction, and New voices insights (#22)

Pine If the objects of the affiliate are compatible with those of the Foundation, then you could ask for a grant. If they are not, why would the Foundation even consider letting you raise funds on their sites. "Rogol" On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Pine W wrote: > I wonder if WMF would be w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

As a general question, Pine, what do you think is the optimal amount of time that the Foundation should allow a chapter agreement to persist when, as in this case, allegations of financial impropriety and use of the trademarks to enrich chapter officials' side projects are followed by removal of a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sharing sad news about Bassel

A complete statement from the Wikimedia Foundation, made by Katherine, has been posted on the Wikimedia Blog: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/08/03/bassel-khartabil/ We are also asking for people’s assistance with translating this messa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

The number of pillars depends on the language version... And whether some rules is called pilöar not dpes not seem to be pf much importance Ziko John Erling Blad schrieb am Do. 3. Aug. 2017 um 14:42: > Five pillars are moot. > > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Gnangarra wrote: > > > The moment

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

Hi James, A matter of concern is that WMF is far from having an exemplary record of good governance and transparency. It's problematic for WMF to be pointing fingers at other organizations and telling them to improve their governance. On the other hand, based on my limited understanding of the fa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

Peter, in this situation I think it is completely appropriate and preferable for the Foundation Director to make the continued existence of the Chapter contingent on their agendizing the specific questions of audit, transparency, and recall in the General Assembly which the members who have called

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Deutschland's Progress Report has been published

I am far behind on email (as you can tell) but I want to say thanks to Nicole and our other colleagues at WMDE for this report. There are several elements of the report that interest me, including https://tools.wmflabs.org/commons-video-clicks/. I look forward to reading the report in more detail.

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Deutschland's Progress Report has been published

Dear all, I would like to draw your attention to our freshly published APG Progress Report. It covers the first six months of 2017 and highlights include: * Learnings from our online campaigns to attract and retain new editors for Wikipedia * Experimenting with a new Wikipedia Hotline * Developin

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2018: 20-22 April in Berlin #wmcon

Dear Wikimedia friends, We are happy to announce the date of the next Wikimedia Conference: From 20 to 22 April 2018, we will welcome representatives from Wikimedia Affiliates and partners, from the Wikimedia Foundation as well as its committees in Berlin. We will closely coordinate with the WMF’s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

Bad news, we have to temporarily roll-back syntax highlighting to fix a page load issue (T172458). We should have it back on soon. Sorry for anti-climactic news! ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/G

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

Hi Andy, Thanks for sending your thoughts, that's the kind of feedback that we need. People can either write responses in this thread, or post it on the project's talk page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Tech/Wikitext_editor_syntax_highlighting We'll respond as comments come in,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

Great news, thank you! Nattes à chat > Le 4 août 2017 à 00:21, Danny Horn a écrit : > > Hi everyone, > > WMF's Community Tech team team is happy to announce that Wikitext Editor > Syntax Highlighting has been released as a beta feature today on all LTR > Wikimedia projects! > > Syntax Highligh

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

On 3 August 2017 at 23:21, Danny Horn wrote: > WMF's Community Tech team team is happy to announce that Wikitext Editor > Syntax Highlighting has been released as a beta feature today on all LTR > Wikimedia projects! I'm all in favour of having syntax highlighting - I teach people to edit wikico

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

Great to see this work going forwards. Can we make the colors more like those used in WikEd? We have build instructions based on the coloring of text created by WikEd to help guide our translation folks. James On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Danny Horn wrote: > Oh, a PS: We're going to post an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

Oh, a PS: We're going to post an announcement on some village pumps, but please feel free to share this with your community. Thanks! On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Danny Horn wrote: > Hi everyone, > > WMF's Community Tech team team is happy to announce that Wikitext Editor > Syntax Highlighting

[Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

Hi everyone, WMF's Community Tech team team is happy to announce that Wikitext Editor Syntax Highlighting has been released as a beta feature today on all LTR Wikimedia projects! Syntax Highlighting was the #6 request in this year's Community Wishlist Survey [1] -- a way to help editors parse th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Trace of Soul (WLM+WLE) in Republic of Srpska

I like the name. Pine On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 12:06 PM, WМ RepublikaSrpska < wmrepublikasrp...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello everyone! > > > I am pleased, in front of the Wikimedia Community of the Republic of > Srpska, to inform you that our community received its first annual APG > grant this year

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Strategy] August 1: Strategy update - Preparing for Wikimania, the strategic direction, and New voices insights (#22)

I wonder if WMF would be willing to let a non-WMF affiliate put up fundraising (which I consider to be another form of advertising, and perhaps some survey respondents did too) banners to get funds for COIN and related backlogs. Perhaps if the fundraising was done by a separate organization, then t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

Citation needed, Cheers, P -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of John Erling Blad Sent: Thursday, 03 August 2017 8:45 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy I believe policies on subproject

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

I believe policies on subprojects of Wikipedia are common by necessity, while the policies of Wikipedia and Wiktionary are common by coincidence. On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Peter Southwood < peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > Only when they are common by necessity, not when they are comm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

Five pillars are moot. On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Gnangarra wrote: > The moment you have a centralised policy you take away the ability to > discuss, makes decisions, and achieve consensus from the community that > create the projects. Importantly you create the opportunity for banned and >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyfraud by the British Museum

It is my understanding that many museums automatically put a restriction on copying of material on loan, since they have not themselves investigated the copyright status. I have known libraries to do that for any book received by inter-library loan, on the same basis. Such restrictions can of cours

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

2017-08-03 13:47 GMT+02:00 Rémi Mathis : > > To be honest, 25-30% of WMFR members is quite a lot. And, don't > > forget, include roughly half of the Wikimedia France Board elected at > > the last General Assembly. > > > > This isn't the first governance crisis in the Wikimedia movement (WMF > > an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

Are you requesting her to do this, or asking if she has the rights/power/authority to do this? Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of James Salsman Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 1:11 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List;

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

Only when they are common by necessity, not when they are common by coincidence. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of John Erling Blad Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 1:06 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

About Louise, IMHO if you care about someone who has recently died, you should dedicate a whole separated email to the topic. Of course, if I had specifically any feeling that a mail will be at the center of a critical discussion, I would not put any reference to a dead person right there. I'd

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

The moment you have a centralised policy you take away the ability to discuss, makes decisions, and achieve consensus from the community that create the projects. Importantly you create the opportunity for banned and blocked editors to decide what happens in a community. By having a base set of si

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

Dear All, Remi's email is symptomatic of the kind of communication we have been confronted with when asking questions (I repeat : questions, because all the so called opponants did in the first place was to question). No wonder people are unhappy: they are invited to do exactly the contrary to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

Dear Gabriel, OK, I won't post here anymore since I'm not welcome. I'm just a little surprised some can tell things that are terribly hurtful and agressive (and just false) without any problem and that I'm supposed to be silenced because my wife is on the board. Violence is really a problem we ha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

Correct Ting At the moment, we are still in the hopes of saving it. I do not think losing the chapter agreement at the moment would be helpful. Flo Le 03/08/2017 à 13:30, Ting Chen a écrit : Hello dear all, at first I would object that the Foundation do such a thing, even as a denkexperime

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

I will bi going to the September 9 GA, and for the moment I still am a member of Wikimedia France. I am posting here in spite of the risk, because I want to set a few things straight. 25% of the French chapter asked for this GA knowing full well that the annual GA was scheduled a month later in Oc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

> To be honest, 25-30% of WMFR members is quite a lot. And, don't > forget, include roughly half of the Wikimedia France Board elected at > the last General Assembly. > > This isn't the first governance crisis in the Wikimedia movement (WMF > and other chapters have certainly had them) but it is pr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

Hello, i wrote something about a comparison of conent policies and will have a presentation at wikicon, but at the momemt i am not at my home computer. Kind regards ziko John Erling Blad schrieb am Mi. 2. Aug. 2017 um 18:19: > I wonder if deviation away from a central core policy should be banne

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

Hello dear all, at first I would object that the Foundation do such a thing, even as a denkexperiment. This may be seen as an easy way to react on a crisis but this opens doors for misuse of power. In a different situation, a different time, with a different WMF board and ED, this can open a d

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

This is typically the kind agressive behaviour we don't need right now. Everybody in the chapter knows that Marie-Alice Mathis and Rémi Mathis are wife and husband, it has always been clearly stated and we always refused to be at the board at the same time to avoid conflicts of interest. Now what?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

Can Katherine Maher as Foundation Executive Director decide and announce a new policy that the continuation of the WMFR Charter is contingent on the September General Assembly agenda including particular items which they may not otherwise be inclined to agendas, please? On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 6:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

Having centralized core policies would lessen the maintenance and process, not increase them. On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Strainu wrote: > The core policies should be the ones pushed by board resolution, and > those should be the absolute minimum required to keep the projects > safe from a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

Common core policies should be on Meta, not Incubator. On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Gnangarra wrote: > I think meta is the wrong place, the coreor base line policies should be in > the incubator not meta and created as guide at the start of a project then > let the project develop their uniqu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

> A few French wkipedians are not happy with the board and some of the > employees. They are about 25-30% of Wikimedia France members To be honest, 25-30% of WMFR members is quite a lot. And, don't forget, include roughly half of the Wikimedia France Board elected at the last General Assembly. Th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

And for the sake of proper understanding... Rémi Mathis is the husband of the current vice-chair of Wikimedia France. Nuff said. Florence Le 03/08/2017 à 12:17, Rémi Mathis a écrit : Dear all, As a member - and former chair - of Wikimedia France, this kind of message really hurts my feelin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

The current situation at Wikimedia France is ABSOLUTE NON SENSE After MONTHS spent trying to figure out what was going on, collecting data, finding witnesses, fighting fears of being sued... we succeeded to mobilize 25% of Wikimedia France members to vote to request a General Assembly. That wa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France

Dear all, As a member - and former chair - of Wikimedia France, this kind of message really hurts my feelings and I still wonder why they can be posted on international mailing lists. We are supposed to act as responsible adults and work together so that the chapters can manage projects... and I k

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sharing sad news about Bassel

Extremely sad news. May his soul continue to rest in perfect peace. My condolence to the family. Regards, Isaac Olatunde. On Aug 2, 2017 9:57 AM, "Richard Farmbrough" wrote: Very sad news indeed. Frustrating that we could not gain more social media traction, when there is such nonsense that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Strategy] August 1: Strategy update - Preparing for Wikimania, the strategic direction, and New voices insights (#22)

> what proportion of articles at NPP appear paid for? > And what percentage of socks / sock cases relate to paid editing? I would sure like to know this. I would also like to whether the Foundation could, hypothetically, hire editors to address the COIN and related backlogs (AFC, etc.) without en

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

The core policies should be the ones pushed by board resolution, and those should be the absolute minimum required to keep the projects safe from a legal POV. Period. Otherwise, people with little understanding of small Wikipedias will try to push stuff from en.wp. Just recently someone was trying

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

I think meta is the wrong place, the coreor base line policies should be in the incubator not meta and created as guide at the start of a project then let the project develop their uniqueness, individuality from there. If it gets put on meta it will become a you must do this and only this to the w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

Without common core policies they can not claim that the projects stick within their boundaries. Is a project without a clear policy on "no original research", "verifiability" and "neutral point of view" Wikipedia? Is it enough to just say it is "Wikipedia" to be "Wikipedia"? I believe there should

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

I used Wikipedia as an example, I would not expect core content policy from Wikipedia to be a good fit for Wikivoyage. Still Wikivoyage could have common ploicies on Meta the same way Wikipedia would do. On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 5:31 PM, T

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

What happens now is that policies from enwiki is adopted "as is", but a lot of the rules enwiki does not make sense at all. On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:24 AM, Jean-Philippe Béland wrote: > I oppose to that. Like that communities with bigger number, i.e. English, > will impose their rules to other