Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015

[phoebe ayers]

Congratulations Mexico! I can't wait to visit the amazing Mexico City :)

And, a big thank you to all the bidders, everyone who commented and
participated, and to the selection jury, steering committee, and Ellie.
This is the first year in a long time that I haven't been involved in the
Wikimania selection process, and I am very pleased to have passed the torch
to such capable hands :)

best,
Phoebe

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Ellie Young  wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we
> have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be
> further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we
> hope to confirm the award. Please join us in congratulating Wikimedia
> Mexico!
>
> We would also like to thank the teams from Cape Town and Monastir as well
> for all their effort in putting together excellent proposals for our
> consideration. As a volunteer-led movement, it is hugely encouraging to
> have so many who want to support Wikimania. The bidding process requires a
> substantial time investment, and we are most grateful for every team’s hard
> work.
>
> For those of you who are considering hosting in future years, we expect to
> issue the Request for Proposals  for 2016 by September this year.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ellie Young, WMF Conference Coordinator
> On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee
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[Craig Franklin]

I agree completely with this, there is no point potentially humiliating a
bid team by revealing that they got very low scores, for example.

Perhaps a way forward would be that the scoring matrix for each bid team
would be sent privately to that team (perhaps with some anonymisation of
members of the jury), and it would be up to each bid team whether they
wanted to make their numbers public.

Cheers,
Craig


On 23 April 2014 03:02, Richard Symonds wrote:

> No, Aya, I don't think there will be a public report - I don't think it's
> happened in previous years.
>
> I for one would not be happy with making my marking grid public because the
> bidders didn't know that the marking grids were going to be made public -
> and for that matter, neither did I! I am also a little worried about being
> "second-guessed" by the community at large. Imagine, *for example,* if the
> jury was split down the middle, with half hating the Mexico bid and half
> loving it: it could be very damaging for the volunteer team morale to show
> that not everyone supported them, and it might damage the conference.
> Perhaps in future it would be a good thing to do...
>
> However, I see where you're coming from - it would be good to have feedback
> on the individual bids for posterity's sake, and to make sure that mistakes
> or omissions aren't repeated in future...
>
> Richard Symonds
> Wikimedia UK
> 0207 065 0992
>
> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
> Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
> United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
> movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
> operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
>
> *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
> over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
>
>
> On 22 April 2014 16:27, Aya Mahfouz 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Richard for the reply! Will there be any public report with a
> matrix
> > indicating the scores of the bidding cities in each judging criterion?
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Richard Symonds <
> > richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Christopher, Aya,
> > >
> > > Speaking as a jury member, the reason we disqualified Bali and Dar es
> > > Salaam was that those two bids were not really complete enough to
> score.
> > >
> > > Richard Symonds
> > > Wikimedia UK
> > > 0207 065 0992
> > >
> > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England
> and
> > > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513.
> Registered
> > > Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A
> > 4LT.
> > > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
> > > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation
> (who
> > > operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
> > >
> > > *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal
> control
> > > over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
> > >
> > >
> > > On 21 April 2014 21:03, Aya Mahfouz 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City!
> > > >
> > > > I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing
> > the
> > > > winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has
> mentioned, I
> > > > would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too.
> > > >
> > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper <
> > > > ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put
> the
> > > bid
> > > > > together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place
> to
> > > host
> > > > > Wikimania and I look forward to attending.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were
> > > chosen
> > > > > and where other bids could have done better will be posted
> somewhere
> > > for
> > > > > digestion as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid
> was
> > > > > clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an official answer to
> > why
> > > > the
> > > > > Dar es Salaam was disqualified.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > > Christopher
> > > > > User: CT Cooper
> > > > >
> > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
> > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
> > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
> > > > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015

[Charles Gregory]

Hi all,

Just to provide a bit of perspective to the crime concerns, I had a look at
the Australian Government's smart traveller page for travel advice (
http://www.smarttraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/)

They mark nations and regions as green (normal), yellow (exercise
precautions), orange (reconsider travel), or red (do not travel).

On their list, all proposed host countries - Mexico, South Africa,
Indonesia, Tanzania and Tunisia - are marked "yellow".  Some parts of
Mexico, Indonesia and Tunisia are "orange" (see the site for specifics) but
the host cities/proposed host cities are fine.  So taking into account the
fact that Italy withdrew, there isn't really a risk of any one host over
another.

Regards,

Charles / User:Chuq



On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Andy Cruz y Corro wrote:

> Hi Steven!
>
> Thanks for your comments. I'm part of the WMMX bidding team and I happen to
> live in the Centro Historico area (only a few bus stops away from the
> venue). Even though it's anecdotal, I can say that *a good deal of my free
> time is spent in this zone and I've never experienced crime here*. I do
> take precautions, but they are nothing out of the ordinary (no flashing of
> valuables, hailing a cab after hours, avoiding dark alleys, etc.)
>
> I will not say crime doesn't exist: it's a real risk, strongly considered
> when making our bid. As Ivan said, we don't want to take chances and will
> have additional support from the authorities (Ivan is our superstar in this
> regard). We believe the venue is safe and we're sure our guests will enjoy
> their stay here. The zone is safe for (part of) our team to live there.
>
> That said, our team (myself included) are looking forward to your questions
> and comments. Rest assured we will do our best to make of this the best
> Wikimania experience for everyone.
>
>
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 23:46:30 -0500
> > From: Ivan Martínez 
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania
> > 2015
> > Message-ID:
> > <
> > capftejnfyqh5xxz-6j8gr23b4o1u9fyotz-kjlgah6yglfr...@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > Thanks to all for your kindly regards and comments :)
> >
> > Steven, concerning to the public safety, our city are different from the
> > known issues of the northern states of the country. In the link you quote
> > for United States citizens are properly pointed for Mexico City: "no
> > advisory is in effect". Also, the Centro Historico area (the venue are in
> > the north of this Downtown area) is safe for tourism. But we will have in
> > addition the special support and coordination with the Mexico City
> > authorities for more vigilance and a special operative for reduce any
> risk
> > to the minimum in the venue and their perimeter.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2014-04-21 22:55 GMT-05:00 Philippe Beaudette :
> >
> > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Steven Walling <
> > steven.wall...@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > it would be comforting to hear how we've assessed the bid
> > > > regarding the safety issue, and how we're going to be prepared in
> case
> > > the
> > > > worst (robberies, kidnappings) do happen.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Not a small concern.  But, I should point out, one that we've dealt
> with
> > > before.  We had laptops stolen in Argentina, and physical safety
> concerns
> > > in Alexandria, as I recall.  I say this not to put a panacea of "oh,
> > there
> > > there, it'll be fine" in place, but to assure people that this is
> > something
> > > that I know that Garfield and Elle, and the rest of the WMF team
> working
> > on
> > > this will consider and keep in mind. :-)
> > >
> > > pb
> > >
> > >
> > > *Philippe Beaudette * \\  Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia
> > > Foundation, Inc.
> > >  T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 |  phili...@wikimedia.org  |  :
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015

[Andy Cruz y Corro]

Hi Steven!

Thanks for your comments. I'm part of the WMMX bidding team and I happen to
live in the Centro Historico area (only a few bus stops away from the
venue). Even though it's anecdotal, I can say that *a good deal of my free
time is spent in this zone and I've never experienced crime here*. I do
take precautions, but they are nothing out of the ordinary (no flashing of
valuables, hailing a cab after hours, avoiding dark alleys, etc.)

I will not say crime doesn't exist: it's a real risk, strongly considered
when making our bid. As Ivan said, we don't want to take chances and will
have additional support from the authorities (Ivan is our superstar in this
regard). We believe the venue is safe and we're sure our guests will enjoy
their stay here. The zone is safe for (part of) our team to live there.

That said, our team (myself included) are looking forward to your questions
and comments. Rest assured we will do our best to make of this the best
Wikimania experience for everyone.


> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 23:46:30 -0500
> From: Ivan Martínez 
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania
> 2015
> Message-ID:
> <
> capftejnfyqh5xxz-6j8gr23b4o1u9fyotz-kjlgah6yglfr...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Thanks to all for your kindly regards and comments :)
>
> Steven, concerning to the public safety, our city are different from the
> known issues of the northern states of the country. In the link you quote
> for United States citizens are properly pointed for Mexico City: "no
> advisory is in effect". Also, the Centro Historico area (the venue are in
> the north of this Downtown area) is safe for tourism. But we will have in
> addition the special support and coordination with the Mexico City
> authorities for more vigilance and a special operative for reduce any risk
> to the minimum in the venue and their perimeter.
>
>
>
> 2014-04-21 22:55 GMT-05:00 Philippe Beaudette :
>
> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Steven Walling <
> steven.wall...@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > it would be comforting to hear how we've assessed the bid
> > > regarding the safety issue, and how we're going to be prepared in case
> > the
> > > worst (robberies, kidnappings) do happen.
> > >
> >
> > Not a small concern.  But, I should point out, one that we've dealt with
> > before.  We had laptops stolen in Argentina, and physical safety concerns
> > in Alexandria, as I recall.  I say this not to put a panacea of "oh,
> there
> > there, it'll be fine" in place, but to assure people that this is
> something
> > that I know that Garfield and Elle, and the rest of the WMF team working
> on
> > this will consider and keep in mind. :-)
> >
> > pb
> >
> >
> > *Philippe Beaudette * \\  Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia
> > Foundation, Inc.
> >  T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 |  phili...@wikimedia.org  |  :
> > @Philippewiki<https://twitter.com/Philippewiki>
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[Ivan Martínez]

Michael, thanks for the recommendations. We will add this information to
the public information of the event. I think most popular overland ways to
come to Mexico from the States are safe, but is more safe have this
information direct from the Mexico Federal Government.

Regards.


2014-04-22 13:23 GMT-05:00 Christopher Cooper <
ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk>:

> I find it difficult to believe it would be that bad. Yes, it might causes
> some issues if it turned out that a bid won because it was the "least
> worst"
> and was actually still very unpopular with the jury. However, I think
> people
> understand that no bid is ever perfect and wouldn't expect every jury
> decision on who hosts Wikimania to be unanimous.
>
> At the very least there should be a written explanation on what the
> strengths of the winning bid were, and what the problems of those that
> didn't were. This has been done in past years and would help prevent
> mistakes being repeated. Also, since Wikimania is a public conference, I
> think those that attend it and support it deserve to know why and how it
> gets to be hosted in a particular place.
>
> As someone who has followed the bidding process over multiple years, I
> think
> it is fair to say that communication between the jury and the community
> during the bidding process has not been as good this year as in previous
> years. I believe improving this should be a priority for the next round of
> bidding for 2016. As a member of the Scholarship Committee, I note that the
> scholarships process was in the past criticized for just the same issue and
> that has now been rectified, and from my perspective doing so has improved
> community confidence in the process.
>
> Kind regards,
> Christopher
> User: CT Cooper
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Symonds [mailto:richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk]
> Sent: 22 April 2014 18:02
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015
>
> No, Aya, I don't think there will be a public report - I don't think it's
> happened in previous years.
>
> I for one would not be happy with making my marking grid public because the
> bidders didn't know that the marking grids were going to be made public -
> and for that matter, neither did I! I am also a little worried about being
> "second-guessed" by the community at large. Imagine, *for example,* if the
> jury was split down the middle, with half hating the Mexico bid and half
> loving it: it could be very damaging for the volunteer team morale to show
> that not everyone supported them, and it might damage the conference.
> Perhaps in future it would be a good thing to do...
>
> However, I see where you're coming from - it would be good to have feedback
> on the individual bids for posterity's sake, and to make sure that mistakes
> or omissions aren't repeated in future...
>
> Richard Symonds
> Wikimedia UK
> 0207 065 0992
>
> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
> Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
> United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
> movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
> operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
>
> *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
> over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
>
>
> On 22 April 2014 16:27, Aya Mahfouz 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Richard for the reply! Will there be any public report with a
> > matrix indicating the scores of the bidding cities in each judging
> criterion?
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Richard Symonds <
> > richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Christopher, Aya,
> > >
> > > Speaking as a jury member, the reason we disqualified Bali and Dar
> > > es Salaam was that those two bids were not really complete enough to
> score.
> > >
> > > Richard Symonds
> > > Wikimedia UK
> > > 0207 065 0992
> > >
> > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England
> > > and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513.
> > > Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard
> > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015

[Christopher Cooper]

I find it difficult to believe it would be that bad. Yes, it might causes
some issues if it turned out that a bid won because it was the "least worst"
and was actually still very unpopular with the jury. However, I think people
understand that no bid is ever perfect and wouldn't expect every jury
decision on who hosts Wikimania to be unanimous. 

At the very least there should be a written explanation on what the
strengths of the winning bid were, and what the problems of those that
didn't were. This has been done in past years and would help prevent
mistakes being repeated. Also, since Wikimania is a public conference, I
think those that attend it and support it deserve to know why and how it
gets to be hosted in a particular place.

As someone who has followed the bidding process over multiple years, I think
it is fair to say that communication between the jury and the community
during the bidding process has not been as good this year as in previous
years. I believe improving this should be a priority for the next round of
bidding for 2016. As a member of the Scholarship Committee, I note that the
scholarships process was in the past criticized for just the same issue and
that has now been rectified, and from my perspective doing so has improved
community confidence in the process.

Kind regards,
Christopher
User: CT Cooper

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper 

-Original Message-
From: Richard Symonds [mailto:richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk] 
Sent: 22 April 2014 18:02
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015

No, Aya, I don't think there will be a public report - I don't think it's
happened in previous years.

I for one would not be happy with making my marking grid public because the
bidders didn't know that the marking grids were going to be made public -
and for that matter, neither did I! I am also a little worried about being
"second-guessed" by the community at large. Imagine, *for example,* if the
jury was split down the middle, with half hating the Mexico bid and half
loving it: it could be very damaging for the volunteer team morale to show
that not everyone supported them, and it might damage the conference.
Perhaps in future it would be a good thing to do...

However, I see where you're coming from - it would be good to have feedback
on the individual bids for posterity's sake, and to make sure that mistakes
or omissions aren't repeated in future...

Richard Symonds
Wikimedia UK
0207 065 0992

Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

*Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*


On 22 April 2014 16:27, Aya Mahfouz  wrote:

> Thanks Richard for the reply! Will there be any public report with a 
> matrix indicating the scores of the bidding cities in each judging
criterion?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Richard Symonds < 
> richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > Christopher, Aya,
> >
> > Speaking as a jury member, the reason we disqualified Bali and Dar 
> > es Salaam was that those two bids were not really complete enough to
score.
> >
> > Richard Symonds
> > Wikimedia UK
> > 0207 065 0992
> >
> > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England 
> > and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. 
> > Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard 
> > Street, London EC2A
> 4LT.
> > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia 
> > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation 
> > (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
> >
> > *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal 
> > control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
> >
> >
> > On 21 April 2014 21:03, Aya Mahfouz 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City!
> > >
> > > I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of 
> > > choosing
> the
> > > winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has 
> > > mentioned, I would like to know what happened with Bali's b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015

[Aya Mahfouz]

@Richard
I know that no public reports were released previously. But if it starts to
be a habit, it will help elevate the transparency of the process.

Concerning the grid the Judges real names can be anonymized  to be Judge 1,
Judge 2 and so on. As for the "second guessing" issue, I think it can
appear in many forms whether the report was published or not.  As for your
example, isn't it the case for all contenders (especially if they are
strong ones) in any selection mechanism (be it bidding, elections or any
other form) ?

And Richard thank you for all your efforts as a judge and taking the effort
to reply on our concerns in this thread. Holding such responsibilities is a
huge burden and makes the person vulnerable to critics, whether they are
deserved or not.

@Nathan Totally agree! This would be a great start.

Kind Regards,
Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Nathan  wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Richard Symonds <
> richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > No, Aya, I don't think there will be a public report - I don't think it's
> > happened in previous years.
> >
> > I for one would not be happy with making my marking grid public because
> the
> > bidders didn't know that the marking grids were going to be made public -
> > and for that matter, neither did I! I am also a little worried about
> being
> > "second-guessed" by the community at large. Imagine, *for example,* if
> the
> > jury was split down the middle, with half hating the Mexico bid and half
> > loving it: it could be very damaging for the volunteer team morale to
> show
> > that not everyone supported them, and it might damage the conference.
> > Perhaps in future it would be a good thing to do...
> >
> > However, I see where you're coming from - it would be good to have
> feedback
> > on the individual bids for posterity's sake, and to make sure that
> mistakes
> > or omissions aren't repeated in future...
> >
> > Richard Symonds
> > Wikimedia UK
> > 0207 065 0992
> >
> >
> Maybe start by releasing the blank grid? Meta has judging criteria, but I
> don't see a grid. Does the jury bottom line the grid scores and then
> average them up? Maybe that "final score" by the jury as a whole could be
> released to the parties who submitted bids?
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[Nathan]

On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Richard Symonds <
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

> No, Aya, I don't think there will be a public report - I don't think it's
> happened in previous years.
>
> I for one would not be happy with making my marking grid public because the
> bidders didn't know that the marking grids were going to be made public -
> and for that matter, neither did I! I am also a little worried about being
> "second-guessed" by the community at large. Imagine, *for example,* if the
> jury was split down the middle, with half hating the Mexico bid and half
> loving it: it could be very damaging for the volunteer team morale to show
> that not everyone supported them, and it might damage the conference.
> Perhaps in future it would be a good thing to do...
>
> However, I see where you're coming from - it would be good to have feedback
> on the individual bids for posterity's sake, and to make sure that mistakes
> or omissions aren't repeated in future...
>
> Richard Symonds
> Wikimedia UK
> 0207 065 0992
>
>
Maybe start by releasing the blank grid? Meta has judging criteria, but I
don't see a grid. Does the jury bottom line the grid scores and then
average them up? Maybe that "final score" by the jury as a whole could be
released to the parties who submitted bids?
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[Richard Symonds]

No, Aya, I don't think there will be a public report - I don't think it's
happened in previous years.

I for one would not be happy with making my marking grid public because the
bidders didn't know that the marking grids were going to be made public -
and for that matter, neither did I! I am also a little worried about being
"second-guessed" by the community at large. Imagine, *for example,* if the
jury was split down the middle, with half hating the Mexico bid and half
loving it: it could be very damaging for the volunteer team morale to show
that not everyone supported them, and it might damage the conference.
Perhaps in future it would be a good thing to do...

However, I see where you're coming from - it would be good to have feedback
on the individual bids for posterity's sake, and to make sure that mistakes
or omissions aren't repeated in future...

Richard Symonds
Wikimedia UK
0207 065 0992

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On 22 April 2014 16:27, Aya Mahfouz  wrote:

> Thanks Richard for the reply! Will there be any public report with a matrix
> indicating the scores of the bidding cities in each judging criterion?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Richard Symonds <
> richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > Christopher, Aya,
> >
> > Speaking as a jury member, the reason we disqualified Bali and Dar es
> > Salaam was that those two bids were not really complete enough to score.
> >
> > Richard Symonds
> > Wikimedia UK
> > 0207 065 0992
> >
> > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
> > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
> > Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A
> 4LT.
> > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
> > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
> > operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
> >
> > *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
> > over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
> >
> >
> > On 21 April 2014 21:03, Aya Mahfouz 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City!
> > >
> > > I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing
> the
> > > winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has mentioned, I
> > > would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too.
> > >
> > > Kind Regards,
> > > Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper <
> > > ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put the
> > bid
> > > > together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place to
> > host
> > > > Wikimania and I look forward to attending.
> > > >
> > > > Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were
> > chosen
> > > > and where other bids could have done better will be posted somewhere
> > for
> > > > digestion as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid was
> > > > clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an official answer to
> why
> > > the
> > > > Dar es Salaam was disqualified.
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > > Christopher
> > > > User: CT Cooper
> > > >
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
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[Christopher Cooper]

Thanks for the information. I've updated
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_bids based on this
information.

I agree with Aya that a public posting of the scoring matrix would be great
as well.

Kind regards,
Christopher
User: CT Cooper

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper 

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Christopher, Aya,

Speaking as a jury member, the reason we disqualified Bali and Dar es Salaam
was that those two bids were not really complete enough to score.

Richard Symonds
Wikimedia UK
0207 065 0992

Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

*Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*


On 21 April 2014 21:03, Aya Mahfouz  wrote:

> Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City!
>
> I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing 
> the winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has 
> mentioned, I would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper < 
> ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put 
> > the bid together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great 
> > place to host Wikimania and I look forward to attending.
> >
> > Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were 
> > chosen and where other bids could have done better will be posted 
> > somewhere for digestion as done in previous years. In particular, 
> > while the bid was clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an 
> > official answer to why
> the
> > Dar es Salaam was disqualified.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Christopher
> > User: CT Cooper
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
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[Aya Mahfouz]

Thanks Richard for the reply! Will there be any public report with a matrix
indicating the scores of the bidding cities in each judging criterion?

Kind Regards,
Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Richard Symonds <
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

> Christopher, Aya,
>
> Speaking as a jury member, the reason we disqualified Bali and Dar es
> Salaam was that those two bids were not really complete enough to score.
>
> Richard Symonds
> Wikimedia UK
> 0207 065 0992
>
> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
> Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
> United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
> movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
> operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
>
> *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
> over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
>
>
> On 21 April 2014 21:03, Aya Mahfouz 
> wrote:
>
> > Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City!
> >
> > I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing the
> > winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has mentioned, I
> > would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper <
> > ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put the
> bid
> > > together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place to
> host
> > > Wikimania and I look forward to attending.
> > >
> > > Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were
> chosen
> > > and where other bids could have done better will be posted somewhere
> for
> > > digestion as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid was
> > > clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an official answer to why
> > the
> > > Dar es Salaam was disqualified.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Christopher
> > > User: CT Cooper
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
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[Patricio Molina]

¡Felicitaciones a los hermanos mexicanos!

– Patricio


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ellie Young  wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we
> have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be
> further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we
> hope to confirm the award. Please join us in congratulating Wikimedia
> Mexico!
>
> We would also like to thank the teams from Cape Town and Monastir as well
> for all their effort in putting together excellent proposals for our
> consideration. As a volunteer-led movement, it is hugely encouraging to
> have so many who want to support Wikimania. The bidding process requires a
> substantial time investment, and we are most grateful for every team’s hard
> work.
>
> For those of you who are considering hosting in future years, we expect to
> issue the Request for Proposals  for 2016 by September this year.
>
> Sincerely,
>
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[Rodrigo Padula]

Excellent!! Great news!

Felicitaciones a todos amigos de Wikimedia México!

Best regards

Rodrigo Padula
Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil
Education Program Coordinator - Brazil
Ação Educativa


2014-04-21 14:27 GMT-03:00 Ellie Young :

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we
> have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be
> further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we
> hope to confirm the award. Please join us in congratulating Wikimedia
> Mexico!
>
> We would also like to thank the teams from Cape Town and Monastir as well
> for all their effort in putting together excellent proposals for our
> consideration. As a volunteer-led movement, it is hugely encouraging to
> have so many who want to support Wikimania. The bidding process requires a
> substantial time investment, and we are most grateful for every team’s hard
> work.
>
> For those of you who are considering hosting in future years, we expect to
> issue the Request for Proposals  for 2016 by September this year.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ellie Young, WMF Conference Coordinator
> On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee
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[Richard Symonds]

Christopher, Aya,

Speaking as a jury member, the reason we disqualified Bali and Dar es
Salaam was that those two bids were not really complete enough to score.

Richard Symonds
Wikimedia UK
0207 065 0992

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movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

*Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*


On 21 April 2014 21:03, Aya Mahfouz  wrote:

> Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City!
>
> I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing the
> winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has mentioned, I
> would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper <
> ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put the bid
> > together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place to host
> > Wikimania and I look forward to attending.
> >
> > Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were chosen
> > and where other bids could have done better will be posted somewhere for
> > digestion as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid was
> > clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an official answer to why
> the
> > Dar es Salaam was disqualified.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Christopher
> > User: CT Cooper
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
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> >
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[Nurunnaby Chowdhury]

Congratulation WMMX!


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Michael Snow wrote:

> On 4/21/2014 9:46 PM, Ivan Martínez wrote:
>
>> Thanks to all for your kindly regards and comments :)
>>
>> Steven, concerning to the public safety, our city are different from the
>> known issues of the northern states of the country.
>>
> In this context, I think it's worth pointing out that one of the more
> likely scenarios for an incident involves attendees traveling to or from
> the conference. Wikimania regularly brings in people who, whether for cost
> reasons, side journeys, or out of enthusiasm for modes other than air
> travel, may not be flying directly in and out. If anyone chooses to travel
> overland, they would be well advised to take careful precautions as to safe
> routes and methods. I'm not sure how much assistance the Mexico City team
> can provide in that regard, but it would be good to identify resources that
> can help people plan their travels wisely.
>
> --Michael Snow
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[Michael Snow]

On 4/21/2014 9:46 PM, Ivan Martínez wrote:

Thanks to all for your kindly regards and comments :)

Steven, concerning to the public safety, our city are different from the
known issues of the northern states of the country.
In this context, I think it's worth pointing out that one of the more 
likely scenarios for an incident involves attendees traveling to or from 
the conference. Wikimania regularly brings in people who, whether for 
cost reasons, side journeys, or out of enthusiasm for modes other than 
air travel, may not be flying directly in and out. If anyone chooses to 
travel overland, they would be well advised to take careful precautions 
as to safe routes and methods. I'm not sure how much assistance the 
Mexico City team can provide in that regard, but it would be good to 
identify resources that can help people plan their travels wisely.


--Michael Snow


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[Ivan Martínez]

Thanks to all for your kindly regards and comments :)

Steven, concerning to the public safety, our city are different from the
known issues of the northern states of the country. In the link you quote
for United States citizens are properly pointed for Mexico City: "no
advisory is in effect". Also, the Centro Historico area (the venue are in
the north of this Downtown area) is safe for tourism. But we will have in
addition the special support and coordination with the Mexico City
authorities for more vigilance and a special operative for reduce any risk
to the minimum in the venue and their perimeter.



2014-04-21 22:55 GMT-05:00 Philippe Beaudette :

> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Steven Walling  >wrote:
>
> > it would be comforting to hear how we've assessed the bid
> > regarding the safety issue, and how we're going to be prepared in case
> the
> > worst (robberies, kidnappings) do happen.
> >
>
> Not a small concern.  But, I should point out, one that we've dealt with
> before.  We had laptops stolen in Argentina, and physical safety concerns
> in Alexandria, as I recall.  I say this not to put a panacea of "oh, there
> there, it'll be fine" in place, but to assure people that this is something
> that I know that Garfield and Elle, and the rest of the WMF team working on
> this will consider and keep in mind. :-)
>
> pb
>
>
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[Philippe Beaudette]

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Steven Walling wrote:

> it would be comforting to hear how we've assessed the bid
> regarding the safety issue, and how we're going to be prepared in case the
> worst (robberies, kidnappings) do happen.
>

Not a small concern.  But, I should point out, one that we've dealt with
before.  We had laptops stolen in Argentina, and physical safety concerns
in Alexandria, as I recall.  I say this not to put a panacea of "oh, there
there, it'll be fine" in place, but to assure people that this is something
that I know that Garfield and Elle, and the rest of the WMF team working on
this will consider and keep in mind. :-)

pb


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[Tonmoy Khan]

Congratulations to Mexican friends :)
On Apr 22, 2014 7:09 AM, "Steven Walling"  wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Ellie Young 
> wrote:
>
> > On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we
> > have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be
> > further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we
> > hope to confirm the award.
>
>
> Congrats to Wikimedia Mexico. :)
>
> I have only one concern about possibly attending a Mexico City Wikimania,
> which is safety. The bid on Meta sort of acknowledges this by saying
> "Safety is like any big city, some areas are unsafe at night".
>
> I feel a bit like a dumb, xenophobic American bringing this up, but I have
> to be honest and say Mexico tends to have a reputation for violent
> crime.[1] Sources do seem to suggest Mexico City proper may be
> better,[2][3] but it would be comforting to hear how we've assessed the bid
> regarding the safety issue, and how we're going to be prepared in case the
> worst (robberies, kidnappings) do happen.
>
> 1.
>
> http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/alertswarnings/mexico-travel-warning.html
> 2.
> http://www.lonelyplanet.com/mexico/mexico-city/practical-information/health
> 3.
>
> http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g150800-s206/Mexico-City:Mexico:Health.And.Safety.html
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[Steven Walling]

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Ellie Young  wrote:

> On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we
> have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be
> further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we
> hope to confirm the award.


Congrats to Wikimedia Mexico. :)

I have only one concern about possibly attending a Mexico City Wikimania,
which is safety. The bid on Meta sort of acknowledges this by saying
"Safety is like any big city, some areas are unsafe at night".

I feel a bit like a dumb, xenophobic American bringing this up, but I have
to be honest and say Mexico tends to have a reputation for violent
crime.[1] Sources do seem to suggest Mexico City proper may be
better,[2][3] but it would be comforting to hear how we've assessed the bid
regarding the safety issue, and how we're going to be prepared in case the
worst (robberies, kidnappings) do happen.

1.
http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/alertswarnings/mexico-travel-warning.html
2.
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/mexico/mexico-city/practical-information/health
3.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g150800-s206/Mexico-City:Mexico:Health.And.Safety.html
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[Osmar Valdebenito]

¡Viva México! Felicitaciones a todo el equipo detrás de la candidatura.

Also, thanks to the Cape Town and Monastir team. I hope they will bid for
next year!

Osmar Valdebenito G.



2014-04-21 18:47 GMT-03:00 Patricia Pena :

> ¡Felicitaciones Wikimedia México! :)
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Anna Torres 
> wrote:
>
> > Congrats México!
> >
> > What a great job done! :) Hope to meet all your staff anf fellows asap!
> Any
> > help needed from Argentina, just ask and will be handled fondly!
> >
> > Hugs!
> >
> >
> > 2014-04-21 17:03 GMT-03:00 Aya Mahfouz :
> >
> > > Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City!
> > >
> > > I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing
> the
> > > winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has mentioned, I
> > > would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too.
> > >
> > > Kind Regards,
> > > Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper <
> > > ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put the
> > bid
> > > > together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place to
> > host
> > > > Wikimania and I look forward to attending.
> > > >
> > > > Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were
> > chosen
> > > > and where other bids could have done better will be posted somewhere
> > for
> > > > digestion as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid was
> > > > clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an official answer to
> why
> > > the
> > > > Dar es Salaam was disqualified.
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > > Christopher
> > > > User: CT Cooper
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[Patricia Pena]

¡Felicitaciones Wikimedia México! :)


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Anna Torres  wrote:

> Congrats México!
>
> What a great job done! :) Hope to meet all your staff anf fellows asap! Any
> help needed from Argentina, just ask and will be handled fondly!
>
> Hugs!
>
>
> 2014-04-21 17:03 GMT-03:00 Aya Mahfouz :
>
> > Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City!
> >
> > I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing the
> > winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has mentioned, I
> > would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper <
> > ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put the
> bid
> > > together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place to
> host
> > > Wikimania and I look forward to attending.
> > >
> > > Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were
> chosen
> > > and where other bids could have done better will be posted somewhere
> for
> > > digestion as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid was
> > > clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an official answer to why
> > the
> > > Dar es Salaam was disqualified.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Christopher
> > > User: CT Cooper
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
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[Anna Torres]

Congrats México!

What a great job done! :) Hope to meet all your staff anf fellows asap! Any
help needed from Argentina, just ask and will be handled fondly!

Hugs!


2014-04-21 17:03 GMT-03:00 Aya Mahfouz :

> Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City!
>
> I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing the
> winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has mentioned, I
> would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper <
> ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put the bid
> > together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place to host
> > Wikimania and I look forward to attending.
> >
> > Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were chosen
> > and where other bids could have done better will be posted somewhere for
> > digestion as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid was
> > clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an official answer to why
> the
> > Dar es Salaam was disqualified.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Christopher
> > User: CT Cooper
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
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[Aya Mahfouz]

Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City!

I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing the
winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has mentioned, I
would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too.

Kind Regards,
Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper <
ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put the bid
> together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place to host
> Wikimania and I look forward to attending.
>
> Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were chosen
> and where other bids could have done better will be posted somewhere for
> digestion as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid was
> clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an official answer to why the
> Dar es Salaam was disqualified.
>
> Kind regards,
> Christopher
> User: CT Cooper
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
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[Christopher Cooper]

Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put the bid 
together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place to host 
Wikimania and I look forward to attending. 

Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were chosen and 
where other bids could have done better will be posted somewhere for digestion 
as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid was clearly lacking, it 
would be helpful to have an official answer to why the Dar es Salaam was 
disqualified.

Kind regards,
Christopher
User: CT Cooper

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper 
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[Allan Aguilar]

El 21/04/2014 11:27, Ellie Young escribió:
> Dear Wikimedians,
> 
> On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we have 
> accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be further 
> vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we hope to 
> confirm the award. Please join us in congratulating Wikimedia Mexico!
> 
> We would also like to thank the teams from Cape Town and Monastir as well for 
> all their effort in putting together excellent proposals for our 
> consideration. As a volunteer-led movement, it is hugely encouraging to have 
> so many who want to support Wikimania. The bidding process requires a 
> substantial time investment, and we are most grateful for every team’s hard 
> work.
> 
> For those of you who are considering hosting in future years, we expect to 
> issue the Request for Proposals  for 2016 by September this year.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
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[Erlend Bjørtvedt]

Great that wmmx tales on such a tremendous effort for all! Congtatulations!

Erlend Bjørtvedt
WmNO

Den mandag 21. april 2014 skrev Àlex Hinojo  følgende:

> Congrats! WMMX!! And thanks to all other teams who presented their
> proposals :-)
>
> Àlex Hinojo
> Amical Wikimedia
>
>
> 2014-04-21 19:29 GMT+02:00 Patricio Lorente 
> 
> >:
>
> > ¡Felicitaciones Wikimedia México! Great news!
> >
> > Enviado desde mi teléfono celular
> > Disculpe la brevedad.
> > El 21/04/2014 14:28, "Ellie Young" >
> escribió:
> >
> > > Dear Wikimedians,
> > >
> > > On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee,
> we
> > > have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be
> > > further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time
> we
> > > hope to confirm the award. Please join us in congratulating Wikimedia
> > > Mexico!
> > >
> > > We would also like to thank the teams from Cape Town and Monastir as
> well
> > > for all their effort in putting together excellent proposals for our
> > > consideration. As a volunteer-led movement, it is hugely encouraging to
> > > have so many who want to support Wikimania. The bidding process
> requires
> > a
> > > substantial time investment, and we are most grateful for every team’s
> > hard
> > > work.
> > >
> > > For those of you who are considering hosting in future years, we expect
> > to
> > > issue the Request for Proposals  for 2016 by September this year.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Ellie Young, WMF Conference Coordinator
> > > On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee
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[Dennis Tobar]

¡Felicitaciones a mis amigos de Wikimedia México!

Congrats Wikimedia Mexico =)


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ellie Young  wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we
> have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be
> further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we
> hope to confirm the award. Please join us in congratulating Wikimedia
> Mexico!
>
> We would also like to thank the teams from Cape Town and Monastir as well
> for all their effort in putting together excellent proposals for our
> consideration. As a volunteer-led movement, it is hugely encouraging to
> have so many who want to support Wikimania. The bidding process requires a
> substantial time investment, and we are most grateful for every team’s hard
> work.
>
> For those of you who are considering hosting in future years, we expect to
> issue the Request for Proposals  for 2016 by September this year.
>
> Sincerely,
>
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[Àlex Hinojo]

Congrats! WMMX!! And thanks to all other teams who presented their
proposals :-)

Àlex Hinojo
Amical Wikimedia


2014-04-21 19:29 GMT+02:00 Patricio Lorente :

> ¡Felicitaciones Wikimedia México! Great news!
>
> Enviado desde mi teléfono celular
> Disculpe la brevedad.
> El 21/04/2014 14:28, "Ellie Young"  escribió:
>
> > Dear Wikimedians,
> >
> > On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we
> > have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be
> > further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we
> > hope to confirm the award. Please join us in congratulating Wikimedia
> > Mexico!
> >
> > We would also like to thank the teams from Cape Town and Monastir as well
> > for all their effort in putting together excellent proposals for our
> > consideration. As a volunteer-led movement, it is hugely encouraging to
> > have so many who want to support Wikimania. The bidding process requires
> a
> > substantial time investment, and we are most grateful for every team’s
> hard
> > work.
> >
> > For those of you who are considering hosting in future years, we expect
> to
> > issue the Request for Proposals  for 2016 by September this year.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Ellie Young, WMF Conference Coordinator
> > On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee
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[Patricio Lorente]

¡Felicitaciones Wikimedia México! Great news!

Enviado desde mi teléfono celular
Disculpe la brevedad.
El 21/04/2014 14:28, "Ellie Young"  escribió:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we
> have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be
> further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we
> hope to confirm the award. Please join us in congratulating Wikimedia
> Mexico!
>
> We would also like to thank the teams from Cape Town and Monastir as well
> for all their effort in putting together excellent proposals for our
> consideration. As a volunteer-led movement, it is hugely encouraging to
> have so many who want to support Wikimania. The bidding process requires a
> substantial time investment, and we are most grateful for every team’s hard
> work.
>
> For those of you who are considering hosting in future years, we expect to
> issue the Request for Proposals  for 2016 by September this year.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ellie Young, WMF Conference Coordinator
> On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee
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