Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Per A.J. Andersson, 18/06/2013 18:05: Many thanks for the resumé. I thought it would be like this, as I've followed the development of the different wikipedias (content and key factors) since 2008. BTW, is there a (searchable) list archive? http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Many thanks for the resumé. I thought it would be like this, as I've followed the development of the different wikipedias (content and key factors) since 2008. BTW, is there a (searchable) list archive? Best of wishes, /Per 2013-06-18, 17:29, skrev Nathan: Hi Per, The discussions on this l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

On 18 June 2013 16:53, David Cuenca wrote: > great to take advantage of the opportunity to monitor changes in the sv-wp > community as a result of this massive automated article creation. > For me it would be interesting to know: [suggestions for metrics] > Otherwise the same arguments are goin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

2013-06-18, 06:34, skrev Hubertl: Loosing our original idea for which this project is donated by thousands of donaters! From which you are paid for. As an unpaid, long term Wikipedian in Residence I do know what I´m talking about. Hello! I'm interested in knowing more of your experience (as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Anders Wennersten wrote: > The base fact figures for sv:wp is > Increase of views +23% on yearly basis, WM:DE +3, WMF:Fr +8 (all mature > wikipediauser communities), nl with +14 and wm:it with +16 also very good > figures (Spain Russia, and Portugal still in a bui

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Hi Per, The discussions on this list can be heated, and not everyone is always on their best behavior. All the caveats of debate on the Internet apply, and any personality problems you might encounter on Wikimedia projects occur on the lists as well. This is particularly so when, as in this case,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

I am a bit suprised about the lack of trying to understand and develop mindsets here. I joined this mailing list the other day in the belief that it was directed at discussing current topics in the Wikimedia community in a constructive manner. So far I have not found overwhelming proof of this.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Anders Wennersten, 18/06/2013 09:00: I am happy to see that you, as well as Hubertl, is happy to go on as you always have done. I do not have the ambition to change your view on life, [...] To clarify, my view on life didn't include any item about bot article creation last time I checked. Ther

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

I am happy to see that you, as well as Hubertl, is happy to go on as you always have done. I do not have the ambition to change your view on life, but to reach out to others open to the new opportunities that automation gives us in better reahing our aim free knowledge for all The base fact fi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Hubertl, 18/06/2013 07:00: Hi Johan, Anders Wennersten says: And as shown earlier we have learned that this actually helps recruting and keeping editors ??? It is difficult to draw conclusions about user behavior. The more difficult it is to say something about the behavior of persons, which a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Am 16.06.2013 15:24, schrieb Johan Jönsson: I would say our experience is that it doesn't affect the number of human editors at all in any way. Hi Johan, Anders Wennersten says: And as shown earlier we have learned that this actually helps recruting and keeping editors ??? It is difficu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Hi Anders, you wrote: > And as shown earlier we have learned that this actually > helps recruting and keeping editors Do you have any prove for that or is this just a speculation or your personal wishes? Does this mean that the Swedish community precisely because this botwork has - against the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Hi Asaf, did you read my mail or is this an automated answer because of using the word monkey? Or is this a just a try like an official muzzle? Really rude for me is, when some Wikipedians think, they have to start a professional service company for transporting simple facts without efforts to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Hubertl, your e-mail was rude, even if you did not mean it to be. Please remember hundreds of people read every e-mail sent to this list, and civility is expected. Thanks, Asaf On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Per A.J. Andersson wrote: > Hi! > > Nice to know German language Wikipedia is f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Hi! Nice to know German language Wikipedia is full of sane people. Good for you. But maybe you don't need bots, so that's your decision. (You do not need infoboxes either, as I see it, and that's also your decision. Lsjbot makes infoboxes, among other things.) Yes, a larger database is mor

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

We just published a blog post from Lennart Guldbransson on the Wikimedia blog about this milestone: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/06/17/swedish-wikipedia-1-million-articles/ On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Ilario Valdelli wrote: > The use of wikidata instead of a bot is a good practice to pro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

The use of wikidata instead of a bot is a good practice to provude good contant to all wikipedias because larger communities can control and fix errors instead of providing content by a bot and keep it outdated. Il giorno 17/giu/2013 15:53, "Gerard Meijssen" ha scritto: > Hoi, > > Please consider

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Hoi, Please consider there are over 280 Wikipedias in as many languages. In many languages we have few articles. Providing information is our mission. We aim to provide well written articles. The argument is that we do not succeed at that. Actually it is not an argument, it is a fact. When th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

On 17.06.2013 12:36, Nikola Smolenski wrote: On 16/06/13 15:24, Johan Jönsson wrote: 2013/6/16 Ilario Valdelli I think that Anders is saying that the result of Wikimedia Swedish is due to a work of bots and to a work of people. It means that this result is contrary to the WMF strategy which

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

I am totally supportive of the idea to create articles in this way if they are more than a simple infobox with 5-6 stats in it. The bot generated form [1] of the millionth Swedish article is where these bot generated articles can start from; a useful stub. If we take seriously this "collect the sum

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

In the beginning there were a mass of article created manually that was substandard and which today would not be accepted as proper articles A little later (several year ago now) a mass of articles were botgenerated that were substandard and could not be seen as proper wp:articles We have si

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

On 16/06/13 15:24, Johan Jönsson wrote: 2013/6/16 Ilario Valdelli I think that Anders is saying that the result of Wikimedia Swedish is due to a work of bots and to a work of people. It means that this result is contrary to the WMF strategy which would have more people and more contributors.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Payin´ peanuts, gettin´ monkeys Servin´ facts, gettin´ idiots. An unmanageable, not maintainable mass of articles is the best way to breed idiots. Because facts do not create knowledge. If that is our goal, then automatically created Wikipedias ar the best way to solve one of our biggest pro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Milestones are nice. They're one big reason for celebrating, once in a while. There are lots of others, but not all are this definable and publicly palatable. Quality projects of various kinds are ongoing all the time, and we need different kinds of "carrots" to keep up the community interest a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Article count milestones are nice! However, I remind those who were distracted in 2008 that article count is a largely irrelevant piece of our statistics since 2008; both stats.wikimedia.org and www.wikipedia.org (plus the other project portals) don't use it at all to "rank" projects, etc.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

I meant we should give credit to the extremely clever PEOPLE behind the bots. And stop handling proper bot generated article as second class. Their data is actually better verified then most of the others And what we find is that the bots cannot build knowledge (which is our aim) without the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

2013/6/16 Ilario Valdelli > I think that Anders is saying that the result of Wikimedia Swedish is due > to a work of bots and to a work of people. > > It means that this result is contrary to the WMF strategy which would have > more people and more contributors. > > The next millions of articles

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Impressive numbers. Congrats. Can we have those species stubs and lakes in English Wikipedia? 2013/6/16 Anders Wennersten > Yesterday sv:wp reached 1 M articles. The one who did the passing was a > bot generated article of a butterfly http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/** > Erysichton_elaborata

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

I think that Anders is saying that the result of Wikimedia Swedish is due to a work of bots and to a work of people. It means that this result is contrary to the WMF strategy which would have more people and more contributors. The next millions of articles will be reached by Polish Wikipedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Congratulations swedish wikipedians *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Network Foundation (OKFN) Auto-confirmed, Reviewer & Roll backer Editor | Bangla Wikipedia Treasurer & Coordinator (PR) | Bang

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

grattis mina kompisar! *Jag känner en bott, hon heter Lsjbot, Lsjbot heter hon...* It looks like Polish will be the next to hit the symbolic number: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#100_000.2B_articles wittylama.com Peace, love & metadata On 16 June 2013 22:39, Tonmoy Khan wro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Well, precisely to the bots. But we can congratulate the Swedish Wikipedians on more than 500k manually created articles: http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/BotActivityMatrixCreates.htm Best regards Martin 2013/6/16 Patricio Lorente > Congratulations to the swedish wikipedians! > > 2013/6/16 Anders

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Congratulations!!! Tonmoy On Jun 16, 2013 6:30 PM, "Patricio Lorente" wrote: > Congratulations to the swedish wikipedians! > > 2013/6/16 Anders Wennersten : > > Yesterday sv:wp reached 1 M articles. The one who did the passing was a > bot > > generated article of a butterfly > > http://sv.wikipe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Congratulations to the swedish wikipedians! 2013/6/16 Anders Wennersten : > Yesterday sv:wp reached 1 M articles. The one who did the passing was a bot > generated article of a butterfly > http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erysichton_elaborata. > > The bot behind this article is Lsjbot who creates arti

[Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Yesterday sv:wp reached 1 M articles. The one who did the passing was a bot generated article of a butterfly http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erysichton_elaborata. The bot behind this article is Lsjbot who creates articles from the database Catalogue of Life http://www.catalogueoflife.org/servic