Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-08 Thread Dan Garry
On 8 Dec 2016 3:50 p.m., "Comet styles" wrote: Spamming to ask for donations so that they don't spam again until December 2017 (Y) There's plenty of room for constructive criticism, but this is not it. Your weaken your point by resorting to attacks. Please be more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-08 Thread Comet styles
Spamming to ask for donations so that they don't spam again until December 2017 (Y) On 12/2/16, Pine W wrote: > OK, thanks for the info. I'll be interested to read a summary of the > campaign when WMF is in a position to create one, which I'm guessing might > be in January

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-01 Thread Pine W
OK, thanks for the info. I'll be interested to read a summary of the campaign when WMF is in a position to create one, which I'm guessing might be in January or February. I could ask more questions, but I think that I'd better retreat back into my digital cave. I have a UI project calling my

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-01 Thread Joseph Seddon
More than it represents a feasible concept that can be significantly improved upon. Reducing it's footprint, improving the look and feel so that it reduces its impact on the page. With regards to user appeals with photos: 1) They are notoriously difficult to be successful. We spent a whole year

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-01 Thread Pine W
Hi Seddon, By "And in this instance although the test was successful, we had decided that although a winner, it was the lessons to take away that were more important. From there we hope to arrive at a banner that draws from the success but is delivered in a way that is easier on the eye." are you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-01 Thread Joseph Seddon
So for a stub article the original banner was a little overbearing in relation to the content but a substantial part of that was related to that banners particular dynamics that we weren't too fond of ourselves and looking to improve. Seddon On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:33 AM, Gnangarra

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-01 Thread Joseph Seddon
Hey Pine, Communicating about testing is something we need to work out how to improve. One of the issues is the sheer volume of content we are dealing with. During these early days our banner team is running about 7 tests a day, and we have already tested 66 banners and counting. That doesn't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-01 Thread Gnangarra
Personally I think the inline banners are invasive to the content, unlike side bar or top of page banners which dont interfere with the delivery of content, the page layout or potentially imply association with the topic. I also recognise that mobile presentation is already degraded to suit the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-01 Thread Pine W
I've been thinking about these inline ads since I first encountered one, which I believe was either yesterday or today. I'm uncomfortable with the idea of inline ads, but they seem to be clearly delineated from article content, and as far as I can tell there is simply no easy way to do on-wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are inline donor banners something we view as acceptable?

2016-12-01 Thread Joseph Seddon
Hey Geni, So this is a style of banner that we have used on mobile over the last year. We have previously had good feedback about the mobile version with people feeling it was less obtrusive to the reader experience. This banner that you saw was one of our first attempts at seeing whether