Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fair Use Campaign: Technical Update

[Charles Gregory]

Hi everyone,

The ADA, EFA and some Aussie Wikipedians are doing an AMA on Reddit to
discuss this campaign - starting in just a few minutes!

You can find us here -
https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/6ct2w0/we_are_from_wikipedia_the_ada_and_efa_australians/

Regards,
Charles



On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Gnangarra  wrote:

> Thanks Liam both for the update and the work you have put into this
>
> On 22 May 2017 at 07:39, Liam Wyatt  wrote:
>
>> Dear Aussiepedians,
>>
>> As some of you may have seen by now - the banner campaign is now LIVE and
>> kicking.
>>
>> Peter Martin, wrote an excellent article for SMH/Age/Canberra Times, and
>> it is doing REALLY well on social media (apparently "Fair Use" is trending
>> on twitter in australia):
>>  http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/fair-
>> use-wikipedia-targets-australians-in-bid-to-change-the-law-
>> 20170521-gw9kzq.html (Do have a read of the comments there too - they're
>> super positive). There's been several ABC radio stories done this morning
>> by Jess (ADA) and Jon (EFA) and the press-release they sent out early this
>> morning is beginning to be picked up by others (SaturdayPaper,
>> GizmodoAus...)
>>
>> Reddit has noticed too: https://np.reddit.com/r/a
>> ustralia/comments/6cg8d0/fair_use_wikipedia_targets_australi
>> ans_in_bid_to/
>>
>> The Meta page, where the banners go, is here: https://meta.wikimedia.o
>> rg/wiki/FairCopyrightOz
>> (and details of the banner designs are on the talkpage) - hashtag for
>> those on social media is #FairCopyrightOz
>>
>> And the main point of the campaign from an 'influencing politicians'
>> point of view is the number of letters sent via the campaign website:
>> https://www.faircopyright.org.au/take-action/ (almost 60 and it's only
>> just gone 9am in Sydney)! If you are interested in this topic, please write
>> a letter to your MP as well!
>>
>> All the best,
>> -Liam / Wittylama
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Farrelly on Wikipedia in SMH

[Charles Gregory]

Thanks Gillian! Have just shared it:
https://twitter.com/wm_au/status/674700508712439809
https://www.facebook.com/wikimedia.au/posts/920382398015453

Regards,
Charles


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> Great piece from Elizabeth Farrelly in *The Sydney Morning Herald *today.
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> http://www.smh.com.au/comment/why-wikipedia-at-15-is-a-beautiful-exercise-in-scholarly-excellence-20151209-glj79f.html
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[Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia15 events in Australia

[Charles Gregory]

Hi everyone,

15 January 2016 will be the 15th anniversary of the (English) Wikipedia.
Many events are being held around the world to help celebrate:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15/Events

.. but so far only one of these is in Australasia!

If you would like to organise one in your city - Wikimedia Australia can
provide financial assistance - please get in touch at
cont...@wikimedia.org.au - or reply back to the mailing lists if you want
to put the call out to other members and Wikimedians in your area.

Regards,

Charles Gregory / User:Chuq
Committee Member - Wikimedia Australia
charles.greg...@wikimedia.org.au
http://wikimedia.org.au

Wikimedia Australia Inc. is an independent charitable organisation which
supports the efforts of the Wikimedia Foundation in Australia. Your
donations keep the Wikimedia mission alive.
*http://wikimedia.org.au/Donate <https://wikimedia.org.au/Donate>*

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[Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikipedia Library Signups: Free Research Accounts!

[Charles Gregory]

Hi all,

If there is anyone who thinks they would be eligible for (and benefit from)
access to the research accounts as mentioned below, please get in touch
with User:Ocaasi as suggested in the email.  Note that although there
aren't any accounts for Australian specific services available, a reminder
that one of the better local resources - NLA's Trove (
http://trove.nla.gov.au/) - is free!

Regards,

Charles



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Subject: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikipedia Library Signups: Free Research
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g...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia  Libraries 
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Hi!
The Wikipedia Library has new, free research donations available:

NEW
*DeGruyter: 1000 accounts for English and German-language research, sign up
on one of two language Wikipedias:
  English signup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_Gruyter
  German signup https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_Gruyter
*Fold3: 100 accounts for American history and military archives
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fold3
*Scotland's People: 100 accounts for Scottish Genealogy database
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ScotlandsPeople

EXPANDED
*British Newspaper Archive: 100+ new accounts for British Newspapers
archives
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BNA

OPEN
*Highbeam: 100+ accounts for newspapers and magazines
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HighBeam
*Questia: 100+ accounts for various aggregated journals and social science
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Questia
*JSTOR: 100+ accounts for journal archives
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:JSTOR

Accounts are available to ALL global editors with a 1 year old account and
1000 edits.  Please notify your local community about the signups.  Signups
for now are mostly on English Wikipedia, UNLESS you have started a local
Wikipedia Library branch like we've done on Arabic, Chinese, and German.
To get started, please contact Ocaasi at [[m:User:Ocaasi (WMF)]] or
oca...@wikimedia.org

Thanks!

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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Creation of Noongar (Aboriginal) Wikipedia

[Charles Gregory]

Hi Janet,

One thing that most of us (who are generally only English speakers) don't
take into account is that a lot of the rules that we have on Wikipedia
are actually English Wikipedia rules.  Verifiability, notability, etc
guidelines are pretty broad, but some language Wikipedias may choose to
have different standards.  It's all decided by the community for that
particular language.

Regards,

Charles



On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Janet Reid lucych...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 8 March 2014 21:54, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote:

 For what it's worth, this is something I thought about a lot during my
 time involved with WMAU.

 I don't think an Indigenous language Wikipedia is going to be viable in
 the short term.


 It would be nice for there to be a way to recognise Aboriginal
 perspectives.
 Citing is likely to be a challenge.

 Once I showed some community women in Maree the page for Maree
 It said her language was extinct. She said it was not.
 I posted to the talk page that local people did still speak the language.
 But the source was a living person whereas the extinction was citing a
 published book.

 Is there a different kind of wiki project which could accommodate that
 kind of perspective/source.
 Is it possible to make articles which are relevant in their relevant
 languages?
 Not make a full wikipedia but capture descriptions of communities and
 places in the relevant language?

 just a thought

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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] opportunity

[Charles Gregory]

Thanks for sharing that Gideon - there is at least one Australian
Wikimedian who this would be highly relevant to.  I notice one of the
selection criteria:

*Impact, including capacity to reach a significant audience: Your proposal
must show it will have an impact, and show a capacity to reach a
significant audience which is preferably, though not necessarily,
Australian.*

Clearly the ability to publicise content on the 6th most visited website in
the world will give any WMAU endorsed candidate a strong advantage!

I agree with Gideon that I find it likely that the committee would be happy
to provide supporting materials to any Wikimedia Commons photographer who
wishes to apply.

Regards,

Charles




On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Leigh Blackall leighblack...@gmail.comwrote:

 Perhaps those of us who can't go could help complete the application for
 others. ..
 On 13/01/2014 9:49 PM, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is an opportunity for someone to spend time in Antartica, as
 photographer I love to be able to do this, as Wikimedian imagine what
 content you could enhance. For me I it's either 20 years too late or 10
 years too soon, given the skills and knowledge of many people here if your
 able to apply I say go for it... applications close 30 March 2014 so give
 it some thought... Become the first Wikimedian in Residence in Antartica.


 http://www.antarctica.gov.au/media/news/2013/antarctic-arts-fellowship-apply-now


 *I havent brought this matter to the committee but I'm sure if you were
 to apply WMAU committee would consider requests for supporting
 documentation where appropriate*
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview

[Charles Gregory]

From what I can see - quick summary:


- Before October 8 there were only sporadic changes;

- Between the 8th and 23rd, there was
- a paragraph added to say the worst had been in Victoria, with
examples;
- addition of the Warrumbungie Bushfire (Jan 2013), 2013 New South
Wales bushfires including references to all bushfires in the Hunter,
Central Coast, Port Stephens, etc (17 Oct 2013)
- a See also to [[Angry Summer]] and an external link to a map of
bushfires
- minor copyediting

On the 24th:
- a few lines added to a lede paragraph referring to climate change and
its affects on bushfire - including references to CSIRO, a random personal
URL, and an article published at The Conversation.
- a new section on climate change - 3 paragraphs - including references
to The Climate Institute, The Climate Commission, Bushfire CRC, CSIRO, and
an article at The Guardian.
- minor copyediting


Regards,

Charles




On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good morning :-)

 I've just been called by the producer for ABC702 morning show (presenter
 is Linda Mottram) and asked to talk on radio sometime between 10 and 10:30
 about Wikipedia's errors, how we improve the contet etc, etc, - in the
 context of the recent bushfire / Greg Hunt story in the media.

 I can obviously talk about how we get better and that we don't pretend to
 be perfect and that we encourage people to check the footnote and make
 their own assessment... But can someone please advise on the best way to
 phrase how the specific article [[Bushfires in Australia]] appeared last
 week and what has changed? I see there is a climate change section - was
 that already there a few days ago? (I can check the history when I get to
 the office, on my mobile at the moment, wanted to write to you straight
 away).

 Any advice, ideas? I recall there being a userspace proposal on the
 chapter wiki - can someone point me to that again and advise if you think
 it's appropriate for me to try to quote?

 Sincerely,
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview

[Charles Gregory]

I forgot to say - thanks Liam for doing these sorts of media activities - I
trust you are happy to do these sorts of calls?  I guess if they are
calling your mobile then you kind of don't have a lot of leeway :)  You
certainly speak and present well in interviews and represent the chapter
and the community in a positive light!

Regards,

Charles



On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Charles Gregory wikimediaau.li...@chuq.net
 wrote:

 From what I can see - quick summary:


 - Before October 8 there were only sporadic changes;

 - Between the 8th and 23rd, there was
 - a paragraph added to say the worst had been in Victoria, with
 examples;
 - addition of the Warrumbungie Bushfire (Jan 2013), 2013 New South
 Wales bushfires including references to all bushfires in the Hunter,
 Central Coast, Port Stephens, etc (17 Oct 2013)
 - a See also to [[Angry Summer]] and an external link to a map of
 bushfires
 - minor copyediting

 On the 24th:
 - a few lines added to a lede paragraph referring to climate change
 and its affects on bushfire - including references to CSIRO, a random
 personal URL, and an article published at The Conversation.
 - a new section on climate change - 3 paragraphs - including
 references to The Climate Institute, The Climate Commission, Bushfire CRC,
 CSIRO, and an article at The Guardian.
 - minor copyediting


 Regards,

 Charles




 On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good morning :-)

 I've just been called by the producer for ABC702 morning show (presenter
 is Linda Mottram) and asked to talk on radio sometime between 10 and 10:30
 about Wikipedia's errors, how we improve the contet etc, etc, - in the
 context of the recent bushfire / Greg Hunt story in the media.

 I can obviously talk about how we get better and that we don't pretend to
 be perfect and that we encourage people to check the footnote and make
 their own assessment... But can someone please advise on the best way to
 phrase how the specific article [[Bushfires in Australia]] appeared last
 week and what has changed? I see there is a climate change section - was
 that already there a few days ago? (I can check the history when I get to
 the office, on my mobile at the moment, wanted to write to you straight
 away).

 Any advice, ideas? I recall there being a userspace proposal on the
 chapter wiki - can someone point me to that again and advise if you think
 it's appropriate for me to try to quote?

 Sincerely,
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview

[Charles Gregory]

From what I see - yes it was.  The first reports I heard were yesterday
morning - and the first article has a published date of 23rd, so it seems
like changes to that article were only in response to Greg Hunt's comments.

For anyone who hasn't been following:
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/greg-hunt-uses-wikipedia-research-to-dismiss-links-between-climate-change-and-bushfires-20131023-2w1w5.html

(Naturally today has been followed up with:
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/wikipedias-verdict-on-greg-hunt-terrible-at-his-job-20131024-2w34y.html
 )

- Charles





On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for that rundown Charles. To clarify, has the specific climate
 change discussion and section appeared *subsequent* to this media
 controversy or was it there beforehand?

 (Still on my mobile)
 -Liam



 On Friday, October 25, 2013, Charles Gregory wrote:

 From what I can see - quick summary:


 - Before October 8 there were only sporadic changes;

 - Between the 8th and 23rd, there was
 - a paragraph added to say the worst had been in Victoria, with
 examples;
 - addition of the Warrumbungie Bushfire (Jan 2013), 2013 New South
 Wales bushfires including references to all bushfires in the Hunter,
 Central Coast, Port Stephens, etc (17 Oct 2013)
 - a See also to [[Angry Summer]] and an external link to a map of
 bushfires
 - minor copyediting

 On the 24th:
 - a few lines added to a lede paragraph referring to climate change
 and its affects on bushfire - including references to CSIRO, a random
 personal URL, and an article published at The Conversation.
 - a new section on climate change - 3 paragraphs - including
 references to The Climate Institute, The Climate Commission, Bushfire CRC,
 CSIRO, and an article at The Guardian.
 - minor copyediting


 Regards,

 Charles




 On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good morning :-)

 I've just been called by the producer for ABC702 morning show (presenter
 is Linda Mottram) and asked to talk on radio sometime between 10 and 10:30
 about Wikipedia's errors, how we improve the contet etc, etc, - in the
 context of the recent bushfire / Greg Hunt story in the media.

 I can obviously talk about how we get better and that we don't pretend
 to be perfect and that we encourage people to check the footnote and make
 their own assessment... But can someone please advise on the best way to
 phrase how the specific article [[Bushfires in Australia]] appeared last
 week and what has changed? I see there is a climate change section - was
 that already there a few days ago? (I can check the history when I get to
 the office, on my mobile at the moment, wanted to write to you straight
 away).

 Any advice, ideas? I recall there being a userspace proposal on the
 chapter wiki - can someone point me to that again and advise if you think
 it's appropriate for me to try to quote?

 Sincerely,
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[Wikimediaau-l] Tennis Australia - volunteer photographers

[Charles Gregory]

Has anyone heard about this (which has been going around Facebook, possibly
other networks/forums)?

https://www.facebook.com/TAPayTogs

http://www.seek.com.au/job/25179489

In short: Tennis Australia have advertised for photographers for an
upcoming tournament.. but the catch is - they are looking for volunteers,
with their own equipment, who will not be paid and...

(the clincher) ...Tennis Australia will retain copyright over all images.

Obviously if it wasn't for the last issue this would be a great opportunity
for some fantastic Commons photographers.  Is there anything we could say
(either publicly, or privately to Tennis Australia) to raise awareness of
this issue?

Regards,

Charles
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] OSM in Australia

[Charles Gregory]

Hi Liam,

There isn't a single point of contact, but on the OSM Australia mailing
list there has recently been a discussion about Government usage of OSM in
Australia - sounds like it is up your alley?
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2013-May/thread.html

If you are happy with me posting your details on the list I can do so - do
you have an NLA email address you'd prefer me to use?

Regards,

Charles






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 I don't suppose anyone can point me to a community leader of Open Street
 Map in Australia (ideally in Canberra)??
 I'm looking to get some OSM events set up during the National Library's
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[Wikimediaau-l] Wikimedia Australia - on Facebook and Twitter

[Charles Gregory]

Hi everyone,

Many of you are probably aware that Wikimedia Australia started to actively
use our social media channels (Facebook and Twitter) in 2012, albeit
without an official launch.

1 January 2013 seems like an appropriate day to make the formal
announcement :)

You can find our pages at:
https://twitter.com/wm_au
https://www.facebook.com/wikimedia.au

Please feel free to post to our page or mention us in your tweets if you
have relevant information or news to share - I will share/retweet some of
them - and likewise, I encourage you to share and retweet the chapter's
posts.

You may also notice our cover photos are Australian scenes from Wikimedia
Commons - the current one is the Blue Mountains by David Iliff.  I will
rotate these pictures every so often - open to suggestions :)

Please bear in mind that these are public communications methods and as
such content posted there should be appropriate for the public, not
internal chapter matters.

Email, the chapter wiki and postal mail will still be the official
communication methods used by the chapter.  Facebook and Twitter are an
extension of these, not a replacement, so if you don't use these platforms
you are not going to miss out on important chapter news.

Any comments or suggestions for our Facebook and Twitter pages are most
welcome!

Regards,

Charles Gregory
Wikimedia Australia
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[Wikimediaau-l] Attention Melbourne editors!

[Charles Gregory]

Hi everyone,

Isabelle Oderberg from the Herald Sun is looking to contact some of the
more prolific Melbourne Wikipedians for an upcoming feature.  If you
believe you fit in this category, please contact her - Oderbergi [at]
heraldsun.com.au.  I have also informed her of the monthly Melbourne meetup
and she will likely be attending the next one on August 26th!

Regards,

Charles
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[Wikimediaau-l] Request for media contact - Sydney Wikipedian

[Charles Gregory]

Sorry - didn't realised this bounced earlier due to me sending from the
wrong address!


-- Forwarded message --
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:28:10 +1000
Subject: Request for media contact - Sydney Wikipedian

Hi everyone,

I noticed this pop up on twitter this morning:

https://twitter.com/matthewbevan/status/229763424983343104

Is anyone interested?

Regards,

Charles
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[Wikimediaau-l] Recent workshops in Tasmania

[Charles Gregory]

Hi everyone,

This is an update about recent events in Tassie.  Leigh Blackall travelled
down here last week for two workshops/training days:

http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_training_day,_Hobart_VET

http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_training_day,_Kingston_Tasmania

He has written up some summaries (and pictures) on those pages, so I won't
go into further detail here.  By my count there were 19 people between the
two days, including representatives from the following organisations (I may
have missed a few..)

   - State Library of
Tasmaniahttp://www.linc.tas.gov.au/global/aboutlinc/information/statelibrary
   - Skills Tasmania http://www.skills.tas.gov.au/
   - Department of Education http://www.education.tas.gov.au/ - various
   schools
   - Grosvenor Consultants (representing Independent Schools
Tasmaniahttp://www.independentschools.tas.edu.au/
   )
   - Australian Paralymic Committee http://www.paralymic.org.au/
   - Upper Huon History Group
   - Legacy Tasmania http://www.legacy.com.au/Tasmania
   - LINC Tasmania http://www.linc.tas.gov.au/ -
Bridgewaterhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgewater,_Tasmania
   - Female Convict Research Centre http://www.femaleconvicts.org.au/
   - Cascade Female Factory Historic Site http://www.femalefactory.com.au/
   - Workskills Training and Developmenthttp://www.workskills.org.au/training/

Articles created or heavily edited include:

   - Registered training
organisationhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registered_training_organisation
   - Australian Qualifications
Frameworkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Qualifications_Framework
   - Hastings Caves State
Reservehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hastings_Caves_State_Reserve
   - Newdegate Cave http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newdegate_Cave
   - Community Christian
Academyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Christian_Academy
   - Herrick Presbyterian Covenant
Schoolhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herrick_Presbyterian_Covenant_School
   - Emmanuel Christian School, Tasmania
(7-10)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Christian_School,_Tasmania_%287-10%29
   - Growing our Future, Growing the
NBNhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growing_our_Future,_Growing_the_NBN
   - LINC Tasmania http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LINC_Tasmania
   - State Library of
Tasmaniahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Library_of_Tasmania
   - List of schools in
Tasmaniahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_schools_in_Tasmania
   - Cascades Female
Factoryhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascades_Female_Factory
   - Female Factory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_Factory
   - Launceston Aquatic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launceston_Aquatic
   - Dominic Monypenny http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Monypenny
   - John MacLean (rower)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_MacLean_%28rower%29
   - Bradley Thomas
(athlete)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Thomas_%28athlete%29
   - Ross Female Factory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Female_Factory
   - Glen Huon, Tasmania http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Huon,_Tasmania
   - Roaring Beach http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roaring_Beach
   - George Clarke (New Zealand
pioneer)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clarke_%28New_Zealand_pioneer%29

Hopefully these are the first of many sessions in Tassie in the future!
I'll be following up with the attendees of these workshops see what sort of
interest there is.  In the meantime if there are other people (in Tassie or
not!) who are able and willing to assist with these, please speak up!

Regards,

Charles Gregory
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[Wikimediaau-l] Melbourne meetup anyone?

[Charles Gregory]

Hi all,

I'll be in town Thursday 20th - Wednesday 26th May.  Any Melbournites keen
to catch up?

It looks like the options are... Saturday day, Sunday day/evening, Monday
day, Tuesday day.

Any ideas?

- Charles
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WM-AU national gathering

[Charles Gregory]

2009/1/27 Karl Goetz k...@kgoetz.id.au

 On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:33:16 +1100
 Charles Gregory wikimediaau.li...@chuq.net wrote:

  Cons:
 
  1. The LCA city is not always appropriate for a WM-AU meetup due to
  us being of a smaller size.  eg. Hobart, Cairns, Darwin, NZ, possibly
  Perth. Workaround - we decide our own venue in those particular years.

 Or we could use it as a chance to boost our numbers in that particular
 location.


Good point, I guess it depends what format the meetup takes (meetup,
conference, open day, etc.)




  - Are we going to LCA Wellington next year (Jan 2010) anyway?  We
  could assist WM-NZ with their formation.

 we?
 kk


first we = Wikimedians who went to LCA this year, particularly those who
helped at the open day - and of course anyone else interested.

second we = WM-AU as a whole.

Regards,

Charles
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WM-AU national gathering

[Charles Gregory]

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Lloyd Nguyen zero1...@gmail.com wrote:

 2009/1/27 Charles Gregory wikimediaau.li...@chuq.net:
  Pros:
 
  2. It takes the decision making out of our hands - less
  process/policy/bickering

 I think I have to disagree on this one, since that would be
 piggybacking far too much. I see making a joint conference with LCA
 more as a good start to begin learning how to do these ourselves,
 rather than just leaving it to them.


Perhaps I could have worded that better - I don't mean we become subordinate
to what Linux Australia says, I just mean that we are a small organisation
with limited resources - if someone throws up a city name and we all go
ok, then that is fine - but if there are competing cities who want it,
then we have to decide who gets it, decide criteria on which the decision
will be made, decide who will compare the bids and make the final choice - a
lot of bureaucracy in it.  OTOH, if Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide all want
to host the 2012 meetup, and if we know that (say) Adelaide is hosting LCA
in the third week of January 2012, then it is a quick, easy decision to say
- ok, Wikimedia annual meetup will be in Adelaide on the weekend
before/after LCA.

.. and to re-iterate what I said in my previous email, the format of the
gathering will make a big difference - meetup/conference/etc.


Regards,

Charles
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: ABC's 'PM' covering Wikipedia Flagged Revs proposal

[Charles Gregory]

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Brianna Laugher brianna.laug...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Also funny - the comparison between vandalism of WP bios and celebs
 having their twitter  myspace accounts hacked. Not quite the same
 thing.

 Brianna


That is crazy!  And that was a Uni professor who said that of course,
they may have been misquoted in a similar way that you/Andrew were.

Regards,

Charles
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WM-AU national gathering

[Charles Gregory]

2009/1/27 Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com

 While its nice and can be advantageous to piggy back on other groups for
 confrences, the decision on when to hold the AGM and whether theres an event
 to coincide with it must be that of our members/committee complying with
 requirements of our constitution.


Of course, I did point out the issues with the AGM timing as a downside.
I'm not sure if it is a Victorian consumer affairs rules, or something else.


 I'd also suggest that making blanket statements about elimating places as
 potential venues for any events will do more to alienate current members and
 potential members. The last Perth meetup had 14 people attend while Andrew
 and myself tried to encourage memberships the dominant comment was there is
 no advantage or reason for Perth people being part of an Eastern States
 based group, these types of blanket statements only reinforce those
 opinions.


I did hesitate when including Perth in that list, I guess I should have
hesitated more.  I only included it as more expensive travel means that it
might be harder to get a critical mass of people there.  You'll notice I
also included my own home city in the list so nothing sinister was intended.

Personally, I certainly don't think that being the only Tasmanian in the
group disadvantages me or diminishes the benefits of being a member at all,
so I would hope others would think along the same lines!  I understand what
it is like to be under-represented so please accept my apologies if any
WA'ers (or anyone from any location) thought otherwise!

Regards,

Charles
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Sydney Morning Herald

[Charles Gregory]

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Casey Brown cbrown1023...@gmail.comwrote:

 2009/1/22 Nick Perkins superni...@gmail.com:
  If the chapter was releasing regular press releases, the media may be
 more
  likely to contact the chapter for comment. It makes us look more credible
  and we are in their faces with a media contact more often.
 

 Well, honestly, does the media even know you exist yet? :-)  Did
 anyone send them anything like a press release?  Maybe that's on the
 to-do.



500 delegates at LInux.conf.au 2009 now know that we exist (thankyou Angela
for the plug!)

The AGM was only a couple of weeks ago and for a week of that both the Pres
and VP have been at LCA, so I assume no time for press releases yet.

Regards,

Charles
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Backstage Pass event in Sydney

[Charles Gregory]

It also just occurred to me the Wikimedia Australia group on facebook is
another avenue - the membership of the group currently sits at 48, which
would be close the number of actual financial members WMAU has - but there
wouldn't be 100% overlap - we may be able to catch a few more along the
way.  Anyway, it is another avenue to publicise our activities.  It may even
be a good idea to send a general summary update anyway, perhaps encouraging
them to join as financial members?

Regards,

Charles



On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Lloyd Nguyen zero1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Strike out the spam option and that sounds good. Even if it's a good
 intention that's never a good way to go about it.

 2009/1/14 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com:
  3) Depending on the number of available spots left we: headhunt specific
  Sydney Wikipedians on the Sydney-WIkipedian's category (a ask your
 friends
  approach); We spam on the talkpages of those listed in the
  sydney-wikipedian's category; We advertise in the Wikiproject Australia
  noticeboard (and/or similar).
 

 --
 Always here,
 Lloyd Nguyen
 zero1328

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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Backstage Pass event in Sydney

[Charles Gregory]

If those people have voluntarily listed themselves as supporting WMAU,
surely a note on their talk page stating that the AGM has occurred and the
result of it (new committee) wouldn't hurt - as well as a link to futher
details on current activities - the PHM, Canberra convention, etc.

Regards,

Charles


2009/1/14 Orderinchaos78 orderinchao...@gmail.com

 I would agree with Gnangarra and Nick on this. The last time upset quite a
 few people and hampered our recruitment efforts.

 2009/1/14 Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com

 A notice at WP:AWNB is ok but targeting individuals isnt a good idea

 2009/1/14 Nick Perkins superni...@gmail.com

  I would recommend caution with spamming Sydney Wikipedians.

 I remember in recent past where someone spammed Wikipedians who were
 listed as supporting WMAU letting them know some important information and
 community reaction was mixed. Perhaps having notices up in the usual
 places would be good.

 For the future, a WMAU newsletter or similar could be organised to
 contain this kind of information. A bot account could be set up to post this
 out to subscribers on a fairly regular basis. There are a few Australian bot
 runners who might be able to assist with that.

 Nick

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