Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden charles andrès
Good idea, The members wiki has been kept as former website mirror to be sure have had a backup plan during the last fundraising. And it has been useful! :-D I think now we could move forward and reborn the members wiki as a working space. Sincerely Charles

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Emmanuel Engelhart
On 22/01/2012 12:07, charles andrès wrote: Good idea, The members wiki has been kept as former website mirror to be sure have had a backup plan during the last fundraising. And it has been useful! :-D I think now we could move forward and reborn the members wiki as a working space.

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Ilario Valdelli
On 22.01.2012 12:10, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote: On 22/01/2012 12:07, charles andrès wrote: Good idea, The members wiki has been kept as former website mirror to be sure have had a backup plan during the last fundraising. And it has been useful! :-D I think now we could move forward and

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Manuel Schneider
Actually this is possible, but two notes: * I have yet never had a reason for anything within our projects to be confidential. Neither with WMCH, nor openZIM, nor WMAT. The only thing that always has to be confidential is human ressources, and that's part of board and thus will be dealt with in

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Emmanuel Engelhart
On 22/01/2012 13:57, Manuel Schneider wrote: * I have yet never had a reason for anything within our projects to be confidential. Neither with WMCH, nor openZIM, nor WMAT. Everything what is or should neither be official or public: - members related information (tel, email, name, ...) if they

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Emmanuel Engelhart
On 22/01/2012 15:09, Ilario Valdelli wrote: On 22.01.2012 14:21, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote: Everyone engaged in WMCH (and on WMCH side) project should have access to this wiki - only a few exceptions should be necessary because those people are members. If not, we should ask ourself why they

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Manuel Schneider
On 01/22/2012 03:09 PM, Ilario Valdelli wrote: Except some opinions, the private data and some financial data, everything may be public. Financial data should always be public, the only thing that should be secret are salaries - and they should be secret for members as well. This is a

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Manuel Schneider
On 01/22/2012 03:46 PM, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote: On 22/01/2012 15:09, Ilario Valdelli wrote: Sorry Ilario. Are you kidding? This is simply ridiculous. Why not making the WMCH Board wiki and ML publicly available then? That's the only ressort which should not be public. But the outcome of

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Manuel Schneider
Something else came into my mind, speaking of empirical results of closed vs. open platforms: The Wikimedia CH members wiki, which has been our website for a while, actually started as a members wiki! For around two or three years we had a Wordpress website + the members wiki which was closed

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Ilario Valdelli
On 22.01.2012 16:07, Manuel Schneider wrote: Something else came into my mind, speaking of empirical results of closed vs. open platforms: The Wikimedia CH members wiki, which has been our website for a while, actually started as a members wiki! For around two or three years we had a Wordpress

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Manuel Schneider
On 01/22/2012 04:42 PM, Ilario Valdelli wrote: The WM CH have to communicate with the world and with the press, with the members, with WMF, with other chapters/communities, with the owners of the projects. Two wikis are not sufficient. It's two wikis (board + members), website, Meta Wiki,

Re: [Wikimediach-l] [PROPOSITION] Wiki only for members

2012-01-22 Diskussionsfäden charles andrès
Le 22 janv. 2012 à 16:52, Manuel Schneider a écrit : On 01/22/2012 04:42 PM, Ilario Valdelli wrote: The WM CH have to communicate with the world and with the press, with the members, with WMF, with other chapters/communities, with the owners of the projects. Two wikis are not