[Wikimediaindia-l] Invitation - Online Meetup (1st December 2019) : Healthcare in South Asia

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Hi,
Casual online-meetup is planned next weekend.DETAILS
 * Date : Sunday, 1st December 20​19​.
 * Time : 08:30PM IST
 * Where : Zoom/Hangout (link to be shared soon)

AGENDA
 * Introduction of participants
 * Preliminary discussions
 * Going through previous efforts related to healthcare outreach in South Asia
 * Possibility of doing healthcare outreach in South Asian Medical Colleges
 * Tools for metrics evaluation (WikiEdu Dashboard and localizing it)
 * In-person meeting (possibility - December/January?)
 * Feel free to add topics you would like to discuss


You can find more details here :https://meta.wikimedia.org/
wiki/Wiki_Project_Med/South_Asia_Outreach_Meetup


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[Wikimediaindia-l] Invitation - Online Meetup (1st December 2020) : Healthcare in South Asia

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Hi,
Casual online-meetup is planned next weekend.DETAILS
 * Date : Sunday, 1st December 2020.
 * Time : 08:30PM IST
 * Where : Zoom/Hangout (link to be shared soon)

AGENDA
 * Introduction of participants
 * Preliminary discussions
 * Going through previous efforts related to healthcare outreach in South Asia
 * Possibility of doing healthcare outreach in South Asian Medical Colleges
 * Tools for metrics evaluation (WikiEdu Dashboard and localizing it)
 * In-person meeting (possibility - December/January?)
 * Feel free to add topics you would like to discuss


You can find more details here :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Project_Med/South_Asia_Outreach_Meetup


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Announcing the Hardware donation program

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Great initiative!
Is there any way to contribute to this initiative?ex - I have additional devices
and I would like to donate.

Best,Abhishek(Sent via handheld device, pardon the brevity)  





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FYI.
A.

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From: Asaf Bartov 
Date: Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:06 PM
Subject: Announcing the Hardware donation program
To: Wikimedia Mailing List 


Dear Wikimedians,
The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce a small new program called the
Hardware Donation Program.  In a word, it is a program designed to donate
depreciated (but fully working) hardware from the WMF office to community
members who would put it to good use.
The program, including instructions on how to apply, is described on Meta, here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hardware_donation_program
Please read the information carefully. I especially encourage you to pay
attention to the program's design considerations, which determine most of the
decisions we'll be making.
We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.  Applications
are welcome.
The upcoming Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (in about two weeks) would be an
excellent opportunity to deliver some of those laptops in person to approved
applications, so if you think you might be interested, I'd encourage you to
apply as soon as possible.
Please also help spread the word about this program, by forwarding this e-mail
to other Wikimedia lists you're on, and posting the link to the program page on
village pumps and *community* (not public) social media channels or other
communication forms you use.
Special thanks to User:Anntinomy from Wikimedia Ukraine, who had the idea of
asking about possible donation of older machines from WMF, and inspired this
program.
Mini-FAQ:
Q: Why are you doing this?A: WMF's Office IT determines a lifetime for work
machines, and regularly replaces older machines.  This creates a stock of older,
working machines, that are available for donation.  We can donate them locally
to San Francisco charities, but figure that if we can find low-cost ways to
deliver them to our own community members, that's so much better.
Q: Am I eligible?A: Read the fine program documentation.
Q: If I'm eligible, am I guaranteed a donated laptop?A: no.
Q: Once these 20 laptops are donated, will there be others?A: yes, eventually.
Q: How can you ensure people would use the machines for Wikimedia purposes?A: We
can't.  We'll be making a good-effort assessment of the likelihood of Wikimedia
use, and make a decision to donate (or not) the equipment. Once donated, the
equipment no longer belongs to WMF. We encourage, but can't enforce, reporting
on impact achieved using the equipment.
Q: I need a few laptops for my event in two weeks! Can I get them through this
program?A: No. Read the fine program documentation.
Q: I'm really happy about this!A: So are we! :)
Q: I'm really angry about this!A: So it goes.
Q: I have more questions!A: Hit 'Reply'. :)
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [IMPORTANT] ICC 2014 follow-up documentation

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Nice initiative :)
Signed-up for overall coordination.

Keep Sharing, Keep Inspiring!



Best Regards,
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> Hi,
> Dear friend,
> I want *you* yo see and participate in the following discussion on our *India
> Community Consultation 2014* Roadmap.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_India/Condensed_proposed_roadmap_for_Wikimedia_work_in_India#.5BImportant.5D_ICC_2014_follow-up_and_few_other_things
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> a great help.
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> call", I 'll call you back* (only for Indian numbers, WMF/WMIN is not
> paying me for my phone bills. He He. :-D ooops. Sorry.))
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Language Wikipedia Outreach in United States

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

​Hello,

Happy New Year everyone! :)

We are planning Indic Language Wikipedia workshops in U.S.
Please go through Project Link :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Indic_Language_Wikipedia_Outreach_in_United_States

Project idea What is the problem you're trying to solve?

Indic languages represent a large portion of languages used worldwide. The
number of contributors for Indic languages has been lagging other language
families for a variety of reasons. Internet connectivity in India being
limited/expensive is a major reason among them. Indic wikiprojects have
beens working to encourage more contributors for Indic Languages.

There are a number of areas on Indic wikipedias where content is either
lacking or is of poor quality. Health-related content is a prime example of
this.
Potential for solution

There is a strong and diverse Indian diaspora in the United States. Eastern
Seaboard has a large number of Indian expats that have either settled there
or live there for work/business. This was evidenced by the 20,000+ people
attending a speech in Hindi by the Prime Minister of India at Madison
Square Garden, New York.

In general, the Indian origin community in the United States has very high
literacy rates. They are also well-versed in English as well as at least
one of Indic languages. Access to Internet is not an issue for this
demographic. Enthusiasm for advancement of Indic languages is also evident
by the many initiatives being pursued by this group.
What is your solution?


   1. Dedicated workshops for Indian Languages in United States of America.
   2. Informal User Group to conduct periodic meetings/offline events.
   3. Collaboration with local chapters and editors to improve Offline
   Wikipedia in Indian Languages.
   4. Special content (health related articles/essential medicines info
   etc) on Indic Wikipedia can be improved by specialized dedicated group of
   Indian medical students in U.S.
   5. Collaboration with (U.S based) like minded individuals and
   organizations dedicated to improve Open Knowledge movement in India.

Pilot Project

Outreach events in

   - New York,
   - Washington D.C,
   - Boston
   - Colorado Springs


   - A session here will serve as an aide to developing and/or fine-tuning
   presentations and sequence of activities.


   - San Diego.

Goals

   - Reach out to more Indians to increase their understanding of how Indic
   Language Wikimedia projects work, and enable them to pass this knowledge on
   to others.
   - Improving and building upon contributions to Wikimedia projects in
   English, Hindi, Marathi, Bengali, Gujarati, Commons etc.
   - Increasing visibility, reach and access to Wikimedia projects amongst
   Indian Americans, especially in students.
   - Sign up students interested in our various activities & any other
   training workshops planned.
   - Conduct outreach sessions in universities, student fests, fairs etc.

Other benefits

   - A strong, diverse and engaged students community.
   - Growth in editorship and readership from U.S.


​We look forward to hear from you. Kindly share your views here -
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Indic_Language_Wikipedia_Outreach_in_United_States

Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring :-)

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Request] Wikipedia Workshop in Nashik

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Hi Tito,

Thank you.  :)
It will be general introductory workshop.


On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 12:51 AM, Tito Dutta  wrote:

> Hello,
> Abhishek,
> That is a nice idea. Good wishes for your project, What type of workshop
> are you planning?
>
> On 27 December 2014 at 00:36, Abhishek Suryawanshi <
> i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have received request to conduct Wikipedia Workshop in Nashik in first
>> week of January-2015.
>>
>> Kindly let me know if someone from Nashik wants to volunteer.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Abhishek Suryawanshi
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[Wikimediaindia-l] [Request] Wikipedia Workshop in Nashik

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Hi,

I have received request to conduct Wikipedia Workshop in Nashik in first
week of January-2015.

Kindly let me know if someone from Nashik wants to volunteer.


Regards,

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Blogged: India Community Consultation

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Thanks for sharing.


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On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> We have just published a blog post co-written by Muzammiluddin Syed and me
> about the Bangalore Community Consultation held last month:
>
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/11/13/india-community-consultation-2014/
>
> I look forward to future blog posts about some of the activities mentioned
> in it. :)
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Hindustani Music resource donation event - Mumbai

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

+1 Pranav.

Thanks to Vishnu and CIS-A2K for this 'musical' initiative.



Warm Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi


On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Pranav Curumsey 
wrote:

> This is wonderful. Will you also be getting some audio examples uploaded
> to Commons? I am glad your team has taken up the cause of Indian classical
> on Wikipedia and look forward to more in this sphere in the coming months.
>
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 5:16 AM, Vishnu  wrote:
>
>> Dear Wikimedians,
>>
>> We are glad to invite you to join us for an event in Mumbai on October
>> 7th where Pandita. Neela Bhagwat [1] will donate her comprehensive textual
>> compilation of  Gwalior Gharana [2] bandishes.
>>
>> Timing: 5.30 to 7 pm
>> Venue: Shivaji Park Nagarik Sangh, (hall next to Shivaji statue at
>> Shivaji Park, Dadar)
>>
>> As some of you may know that Gwalior Gharana is one of the old traditions
>> of Hindustani gayaki and like other gayaki's the tradition has been passed
>> on orally in the guru-shishya parampara. Pt. Neela Bhagwat has over a
>> period of 30 years (of learning and teaching music) meticulously compiled
>> most of the Gwalior Gharana bandishes with notations and notes. Upon the
>> request of CIS-A2K, she has agreed to donate this comprehensive collection
>> which will be scanned and hosted on Wikisource. We hope that this will be
>> of interest to music aficionados and those interested in the study of
>> Hindustani Music.
>>
>> CIS-A2K is thankful to the event hosts, Khayal Trust. The event will
>> attract a community of Hindustani music lovers and we hope to orient them
>> to consider improving the quality of content on Hindustani music and
>> musicians on Wikipedia during the event. We welcome the community members
>> in Mumbai to join us in this effort. Please help spread the word.
>>
>> Best,
>> Vishnu
>>
>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neela_Bhagwat
>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwalior_gharana  (needs wiki love)
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] First Wikipedia Article has been Formally Peer Reviewed and Published

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Wow, Congrats to Doctor James and Wiki Project Med
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Project_Med> :)

​Thanks for sharing. ​



​Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi
User:AbhiSuryawanshi ​



On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Another pioneering achievement for Wikipedia, by the indefatigable Doc
> James. :)
>
>A.
>
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> From: James Heilman 
> Date: Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:24 PM
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] First Wikipedia Article has been Formally Peer
> Reviewed and Published
> To: wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
>
>
> Article published by the journal Open Medicine
> http://www.openmedicine.ca/article/viewFile/562/564
>
> Will soon be pubmed indexed. Editorial regarding the efforts are here
> http://www.openmedicine.ca/article/view/652/565
>
> Hope these sorts of efforts will improve the reputation of Wikipedia and
> the number of contributors. I guess we will see.
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Live Interview @WeAreWikipedia

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Nice session  - https://twitter.com/WeAreWikipedia/with_replies :)
Could you please share brief summary ?
and is there google calendar for upcoming online/offline activities?
​




​Warm Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi ​



On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu <
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> Hi,
>
> Please join me and Bishkha Datta (Board member, Wikimedia Foundation)
> today (24th September 9 PM Indian Time) for a live interview through
> Twitter at @WeAreWikipedia .
>
> https://twitter.com/WeAreWikipedia
>
> Ravi,
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikikn-l (kannada wikipedia)] Release of 105 books by Govt of Karnataka under CC-BY-SA

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Great news.


> *CIS-A2K put lot of efforts in convincing the department to achieve
> thismilestone.*


​Congrats to CIS-A2K team. All the best for similar projects. :)



Warm Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi
​



On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Dr Pavanaja 
wrote:

> namaste,
>
> It gives me immense pleasure to announce the re-release of 105 Kannada
> classics by Dept of Kannada & Culture, Govt of Karnataka, under CC-BY-SA.
> CIS-A2K put lot of efforts in convincing the department to achieve this
> milestone. These books include classics like complete Dasa Sahitya which
> include complete works of Purandaradasa, Kanakadasa, complete Vachana
> Sahitya, Kumaravyasa Bharata, Jaimini Bharata, etc. We got 4 books in PDF
> form and they have been uploaded to Commons and index pages created in
> Kannada Wikisource. The complete project page for anyone to register and
> start working on is at http://bit.ly/gokbooks. The same page has the link
> to the declaration containing the list of books released under CC-BY-SA
> now. People are welcome to scan and upload other books from the list. I am
> simultaneously working on procuring other books from the list in PDF form.
>
> Thanks and regards,
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter welcomes new grant requests and project proposals

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Nice initiative. Hope so 'tatkal' system works in smooth way ;)
*Simple Pictorial Guide *might help new members.

All the best.




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On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu <
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> Hi,
>
> Wikimedia India Chapter welcomes community driven grant requests and
> project proposals that are
>
> * Innovative
> * Creative
> * Pan-Indian
> * Scalable
> * Reproducible
> * Impactful
> *
> *... *(wait, that is already a long list of keywords :) )*
>
> OK, let us think of something more than the typical outreach work we do !
>
> While the chapter gets ready updating a minimum set of requirements,
> policies and procedures for awarding grants, please start discussing in
> your community village pump about prospective projects. When we review
> grant requests, we will be looking for signs of community approval or
> interest.
>
> Stay tuned for more updates and let me assure you will get approval for
> grants in a Tatkal basis :)
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Recruitment Announcement : Program Director of Wikimedia India Chapter

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Thank you Jayanta Da for sharing.

Congratulations Ravishankar Ayyakkannu :)
​All the best.​



​Warm Regards,
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On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Jayanta Nath  wrote:

> Dear Members of Wikimedia India Chapter,
>
> It is my pleasure to announce Ravishankar Ayyakkannu as the Program
> Director of Wikimedia India Chapter.
>
> He was involved in various projects of the movement that dealt with the
> State Government of Tamilnadu and multinational firms like Google.  His
> experiences working for the movement have been featured in media including
> The New York Times and BBC. He has served as the General Council member of
> the International Forum for Information Technology in Tamil. He is also
> actively involved in promoting Free and Open Source projects and Free
> Culture movements in Tamil.
>
> Ravishankar completed his graduation from Nanyang Technical University,
> Singapore and Technical University of Munich, Germany and later worked as a
> researcher for the Leiden University in The Netherlands.He has been
> working as an independent Web development consultant.
>
>
> The Interview committee consisting of Sudhanwa Jogalekar (Past president)
> , Navin Francis ( Past Secretory), Moksh Juneja (President) and myself were
> honored to be part of this efficient, effective, and enlightening process.
>
> Ravishankar joined Wikimedia India on 20th September 2014 as Program
> Director. He will be based in Bangalore. His primary roles are supporting
> community members in organizing and executing the various chapter programs,
> strategic planning for the chapter, mentoring interns and devise success
> measurement metrics for community projects.
>
> Please join me in officially welcoming Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Wikimedia
> India Chapter!
>
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>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-blr] Wikimedia Community Meet & Lunch Bangalore 21/Sep/2014 Sunday 1.00 PM

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

All the best for Board Meeting as well as community meet-up :)


Warm Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi




On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Jayanta Nath  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> The Executive Committee of Wikimedia India Chapter is holding its Q2 Board
> Meeting and a two-day Board Camp  on 20th (Saturday) and 21st(Sunday) of
> September at Bangalore.
>
> As part of the board's induction and outreach, the EC is also arranging
> an informal *Wikimedia  Community Meet* of all Wikimedians around
> Bangalore.
>
> The community meet is meant for general interaction and feedback among
> themselves as well as with the EC members and the A2K team of CIS.
> There will be no formal presentations or other formalities, perhaps for a
> short self-introduction session by each participant.
> Vishnu and his team from A2K has kindly agreed to join us for this meet.
> They are also helping us in conducting the board Camp efficiently.
>
> This is arranged along with a buffet lunch. You are encouraged to bring
> your spouse and/or children along with you.
>
> *Event:*
>
> *Wikimedia Bangalore Community Lunch Meet *with *Chapter EC and A2K(CIS)*
>
> *Venue: CIS Office Premises, Indira Nagar, Bangalore*
>
> *Time: 1.00 PM *
>
> *Date: Sunday, 21/09/2014*
> Any Wikimedians in and around Bangalore, (any Wikimedia contributor, not
> necessarily a chapter member) are welcome. You are also spread the word
> around to such among your friends.
>
>
>
> *[However, to have a rough count of attendees, we request you to RSVP
> (inform us of your intention to participate in advance), preferably by
> Friday Night (19/9/2014) or at least by Saturday afternoon by way of email,
> SMS or phone or Chapter's wiki.]*
> *Contact & RSVP:*
>
> Email: Jayanta@  / Nikita  @ wikimedia.in +  Vishnu @ cis
> Phone / SMS: Jayanta  (+91 9836294438)
>
> Thank you and regards,
>
> Jayanta Nath
> President
> Wikimedia India Chapter
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Who is moderating India Mailing list ?

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

I do support (neutral) moderation and sometimes it is necessary to moderate
bad faith mails/trolls etc.

Along with moderation, it would be nice to maintain log somewhere (abt
discarded/rejected e-mails)

For those who are curious about moderation process : Before rejecting any
E-Mail (most of the time), admins reply to individual with justification.
Delay might be due to busy schedule, additional administrators may solve
this issue.




​Best​,
Abhishek Suryawanshi,
Vice President, Wikimedia New York



On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Viswanathan Prabhakaran <
viswapra...@wikimedia.in> wrote:

> Certainly we always would like to assume good faith with all those good
> samaritans. But what if most of them are busy and only a few are in charge?
>
> :(
>
> Can we then get a report or log of activities?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Ravishankar  wrote:
>
>> Viswam,
>>
>> List of moderators can be found at the end of page here:
>>
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
>>
>> Let us assume good faith as at least few of them were really busy in
>> personal life which I can vouch for.
>>
>> What we need is an updated moderation policy and new volunteers for
>> moderation.
>>
>> We can also keep rotating this responsibility from time to time.
>>
>> Ravi
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (no subject)

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Congrats :-)


Keep Editing, Keep Inspiring!


-
​Best,
Abhishek Suryawanshi
​



On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 5:15 PM, shubha zero  wrote:

>  Dear all,
>
>
> It gives us great pleasure to inform you that the 10th Anniversary of Sa.
> Wikipedia was Celebrated on 31st. December 2013, at the premises of
> Karnataka Sanskrit University in Bangalore in front of a good gathering of
> Sanskrit wikipedians and scholars.
>
>
> Please see the following links -
>
>
> 1.* Improved version of the Main Page of Sa. Wikipedia.*
>
>
>
> https://sa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%96%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%83%E0%A4%B7%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A0%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D
>
>
> 2. *Introduction Book on Sa. Wikipedia.*
>
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Sanskrit_Wikipedia_hand_book
>
>
> *3. *
> *Report of the events *
>
>
>  http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Samskrit_Wikipedia_10th_Anniversary_Celebration
>
>
> With Best Regards,
>
> Shubha
>
> Coordinator, Samskrita Wikipedia wing
>
> Samskrita Bharati, Aksharam,
>
> Giri Nagar, II Phase, Banagalore 85
>
> samskritw...@gmail.com
>
> Tel: 2642 1152
>
>
>  <http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Samskrit_Wikipedia_10th_Anniversary_Celebration>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Photography event on Indian food

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

​Wow. Great responses. ​

We need to channelize all resources and idea's. ​Kindly consider creating
event page on Wikimedia India Chapter site (http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Events)

What about having partnerships either with established restaurant or
hotel-management school?




Regards,

-Abhishek Suryawanshi
Wikipedia Club Pune ​



On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Sanket Oswal  wrote:

> Great Idea Yohann. I have photographed some delicacies from Gujarat and
> Rajasthan. I would love to contribute the same.
>
> On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Yohann Thomas  wrote:
>
>> I was thinking of proposing an online photography event on Indian food.
>>
>> Please suggest some ideas.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Yohann Thomas
>> Wikipedia Club Pune
>>  yohan...@gmail.com
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Would you like to be part of the international jury for WLPA?

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

​Thank Pradeep for sharing link.

Participating countries :-

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Public_Art_2013/Participating_countries


​Progress :-
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Public_Art_2013/Progress


Lets participate?





-
​Abhishek




On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Pradeep Mohandas wrote:

> hi,
>
> WLPA 2013 seems to be a European competition for now. See this on Commons
> - http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Public_Art_2013.
>
> It would be interesting to see instances of public art in India.
>
> Pradeep Mohandas
> How Pradeep uses email? - http://goo.gl/6v1I9
>--
> *From:* Arnav Sonara 
> *To:* Wikimedia India Community list 
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 20 February 2013 8:03 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Would you
> like to be part of the international jury for WLPA?
>
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Noopur  wrote:
>
> FYI. For those interested and for those who contributed to WLM, this might
> be for you.
>
>
> Thanks for sharing this.
>
> Is India participating in WLPA too?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Chapters] Wiki Loves Earth

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

​@Ashwin -


​Here is corrected link for Wikipedia Takes Pune -
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_Takes_Pune


@Wiki Loves Earth - Interesting concept.




-
​Abhishek Suryawanshi,

​Wikipedia Club Pune



On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Ashwin Baindur wrote:

> Interestingly, the "Wikipedia takes Pune" page is missing a Commons link
> to a category into which your event phoographs have been loaded.
>
> Can you please rectify this?
>
> Ashwin
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Niraj Suryawanshi <
> niraj.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wikipedia Takes Pune
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Chapter Misleading Community!

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

​Dear Prashanth,


*In the interest of the list discussion remaining useful and healthy, I
> also request you to desist from raking the same points again and
> again. Perhaps, if you feel that the responses were not clear enough
> (or were not sufficient in content), you need to take it up through
> other channels. The limitations of an email discussion list certainly
> do not allow for more than thi*s.
>

Sorry for 'pushing' my points again n again on public mailing lists. Thank
you so much for highlighting other channels.


@Dear Anirudh :

I want to apologize for tone. However I am confused about moderation part.
I was searching answers, and as stated above - I do agree - pushing part
was unnecessary.
If moderation was purely done for ignoring warning then I am sorry for
that.

I do understand moderators of this list are volunteers, and I completely
respect their decisions.

Regarding this thread, by assuming good faith I believe EC will reply soon
- I would prefer to wait for reply instead of pushing.

​Hope so moderation mode will be deactivated soon.





With sincere apologies,

Abhishek Suryawanshi



On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Prashanth N S wrote:

> Dear Abhishek,
>
> I am a relatively disinterested party (no implication on others'
> interest, but certainly from your perspective I am quite disinterested
> (not uninterested)) in this matter. You have certainly made your
> point. I (and perhaps many others who have not chosen to respond or
> engage) have taken in your view on this matter and the implications of
> what you say. There have been responses from people you have raised
> issues with and their response is also on record.
>
> In the interest of the list discussion remaining useful and healthy, I
> also request you to desist from raking the same points again and
> again. Perhaps, if you feel that the responses were not clear enough
> (or were not sufficient in content), you need to take it up through
> other channels. The limitations of an email discussion list certainly
> do not allow for more than this.
>
> Regards,
> Prashanth
>
> On 14 February 2013 19:50, Anirudh Bhati  wrote:
> > Abhishek,
> >
> > I noticed that you have been repetitively raising the same issues over
> > and over again. The members of the Executive Committee of Wikimedia
> > India and Sunil@CIS have already responded to your questions.  It is
> > clear to us all that some members of the Executive committee will be
> > travelling to Bangalore in order to train the new employees of CIS on
> > matters pertaining to their new assignments.  The Executive Committee
> > has decided to utilize this time when all the members of the board are
> > in the same city together to have a face to face meeting.  There is
> > nothing that has been said that goes to prove that CIS regularly funds
> > chapter activities.
> >
> > I have to ask you to please refrain from sending further emails on
> > this topic.  If you ignore this warning, I will have to put your
> > account on moderation.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Anirudh
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi
> >  wrote:
> >> Dear Executive Committee,
> >> Wikimedia India Chapter.
> >>
> >>
> >> Could you be please be kind enough to clarify, Why EC was/is interested
> in
> >> misguiding mailing list and Indian community?
> >>
> >>
> >> When asked about CIS funding - Executive Committee member wrote :
> >>
> >>> The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do so.
> If
> >>> the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
> >>
> >>
> >> Then why weren't they made public by you? CIS clearly stated - they are
> >> funding Chapter, and in past (also) they have supported in-kind.
> >>
> >> Why is the hesitation for acknowledging this? On the contrary - there is
> >> strong rejection of even having any kind of connection with CIS from
> Chapter
> >> representatives. (On the other hand CIS is graciously open/alright to
> >> acknowledge links with the Chapter)
> >>
> >>
> >> On A Query about CIS funding Chapter Flight Tickets : Response from
> >> Secretary was-
> >>
> >>> .making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list,
> >>
> >>
> >> Which part was unsubstantiated?  Its the reality that this time Chapter
> >> Board Member's Flight tickets ARE covered by CIS even if it includes
> >> training the A2K team.
> >> (CIS has already made it clear on this mailing list)
> >>
>

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Chapter Misleading Community!

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Dear Anirudh,

Please direct me to the response/clarification from Wikimedia India
Executive Committee.

Only Sunil has made the whole thing clear and now its "only"  You who is
saying -
It is clear to us all that some members of the Executive committee will be
travelling to Bangalore in order to train the new employees of CIS on
matters pertaining to their new assignments.  The Executive Committee
has decided to utilize this time when all the members of the board are
in the same city together to have a face to face meeting.  There is
nothing that has been said that goes to prove that CIS regularly funds
chapter activities.




Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune







On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Anirudh Bhati wrote:

> Abhishek,
>
> I noticed that you have been repetitively raising the same issues over
> and over again. The members of the Executive Committee of Wikimedia
> India and Sunil@CIS have already responded to your questions.  It is
> clear to us all that some members of the Executive committee will be
> travelling to Bangalore in order to train the new employees of CIS on
> matters pertaining to their new assignments.  The Executive Committee
> has decided to utilize this time when all the members of the board are
> in the same city together to have a face to face meeting.  There is
> nothing that has been said that goes to prove that CIS regularly funds
> chapter activities.
>
> I have to ask you to please refrain from sending further emails on
> this topic.  If you ignore this warning, I will have to put your
> account on moderation.
>
> Thanks,
> Anirudh
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi
>  wrote:
> > Dear Executive Committee,
> > Wikimedia India Chapter.
> >
> >
> > Could you be please be kind enough to clarify, Why EC was/is interested
> in
> > misguiding mailing list and Indian community?
> >
> >
> > When asked about CIS funding - Executive Committee member wrote :
> >
> >> The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do so. If
> >> the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
> >
> >
> > Then why weren't they made public by you? CIS clearly stated - they are
> > funding Chapter, and in past (also) they have supported in-kind.
> >
> > Why is the hesitation for acknowledging this? On the contrary - there is
> > strong rejection of even having any kind of connection with CIS from
> Chapter
> > representatives. (On the other hand CIS is graciously open/alright to
> > acknowledge links with the Chapter)
> >
> >
> > On A Query about CIS funding Chapter Flight Tickets : Response from
> > Secretary was-
> >
> >> .making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list,
> >
> >
> > Which part was unsubstantiated?  Its the reality that this time Chapter
> > Board Member's Flight tickets ARE covered by CIS even if it includes
> > training the A2K team.
> > (CIS has already made it clear on this mailing list)
> >
> >
> > Why there is hesitation/resistance to have transparency?
> >
> > Also, the Chapter President gave statement on same thread -
> >
> >> Please be open and transparent to the
> >> community. The more you become transparent, it is better for all.
> >
> >
> > Are Chapter EC Members  exception to this?
> >
> > On same lines, Another EC Members says -
> >
> >>  The Chapter is financially accountable to it's MEMBERS,
> >
> >
> > As correctly stated by , Chapter is having money from WMF, Which comes
> from
> > individual donations. So ideally
> > Chapter should be accountable to the overall community and not just its
> > members, as rightly pointed out by someone
> >
> > Again, What is the need to find excuses for transparency?
> >
> > When there was statement that ''AGM travel expense is covered'' instead
> of
> > correcting statement and saying, its wrong - and CIS is paying for Board
> > Trip (which is coinciding with CIS training!)
> > Even Chapter President preferred to give out half truth and kept
> everyone in
> > dark. And there was Secretary and another EC Member to take whole mailing
> > list on a ride!
> >
> >
> > Why it is important?
> >
> > This could be start of new era - Where CIS supports Chapter financially
> > whenever needed.
> > (or in-kind as they did in past and hopefully will continue to do so).
> >
> > So more and more volunteer efforts can be devoted for
> outreach/activities.
> >
> >> Pl

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

​Dear Rohini,

​*I have been on-board several Wiki mailing lists and closed emailing
> groups for a few years now,*


​Congrats for being 'on-board' of several Wiki-mailing lists. I do
appreciate kind of energy and efforts needed to to be on-board/to join Wiki
Mailing List. Hats off to you for managing this brilliantly.  ​It must be
difficult job to remain silent simultaneously on several mailing lists at
same time.

​*but this is the first time I have been piqued to respond to such a
> 'discussion'. ​*
>

​I have special respect for personalities like you who make special
appearance ​on mailing lists to protect views of friends/colleagues, that
too by keeping aside neutral point of view. This is rare quality, please
preserve it.

​Great to know apart from putting up effort for being on(-board) mailing
list - you also reply back.

*As I see it, the Chapter has committed to transparency and accountability;
> nothing is wrong with it having some money of its own.
> *


More than happy to know you also agree with me. I have already encouraged
in-kind donation collection.


Most importantly - Its people like you who define mailing lists by special
cameo appearance's. You expertise in maintaining silence (on several
mailing lists!) and speaking up when needed are commendable.

​Keep up great work!




​Best Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune





On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Rohini Lakshané  wrote:

> Abhishek,
>
> I have been on-board several Wiki mailing lists and closed emailing groups
> for a few years now, but this is the first time I have been piqued to
> respond to such a 'discussion'. Your efforts to prove what you are trying
> to prove are outstanding. I won't be surprised if Doctor Hakim (I
> appreciate the wordplay) is a troll or a sock puppet who has planted this
> thread to get the discussion where it is.
>
> Almost every community member I have interacted with or met in person over
> the years has gone out of pocket for volunteer activities. I have known of
> community members refusing grants while going out of pocket, and I respect
> them all the more for that. Some of us have spent astounding amounts of
> money this way. As I see it, the Chapter has committed to transparency and
> accountability; nothing is wrong with it having some money of its own. When
> you become a member of the Chapter again, maybe you can help bring about as
> much transparency as you'd like.
>
> Regards,
> Rohini
>
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi <
> i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear Sunil,
>>
>> Could you please share information about CIS supporting Chapter Travel
>> expenses?
>>
>> And Its nice and positive move, Great to see CIS continues to support
>> movement in India.
>> Volunteers can devote their time in doing activities and CIS can support
>> as per request.
>>
>> As Chapter is shy/silent about acknowledging funding from CIS - Hope so
>> your reply will clarify that CIS is there to support Chapter activities
>> irrespective of criticism.
>>
>>
>> Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring! :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Abhishek Suryawanshi,
>> On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   --
>>>> *From:* Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
>>>>
>>>> *To:* Wikimedia India Community list <
>>>> wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 12 February 2013 11:31 PM
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
>>>>
>>>> Membership under processing is differnt from memvership alreadt
>>>> processed. INDI-31 is non existant and will remain so.
>>>>
>>>> As for CIS funding, you still havwn't said where you have got the
>>>> "information" from.
>>>> The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do so.
>>>> If the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
>>>>
>>>> n Tuesday, February 12, 2013, Abhishek Suryawanshi <
>>>> i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Dear Srikanth,
>>>> > I appreciate you keep a check of the Chapter Membership List. But at
>>>> the same time I guess you will also respect the Chapter President's word. I
>>>> have had a talk with Sudhanwa (President,Wikimedia India Chapter) and just
>>>> two days back he informed me that my Chapter-membership is being

[Wikimediaindia-l] Chapter Misleading Community!

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Dear Executive Committee,
Wikimedia India Chapter.


Could you be please be kind enough to clarify, Why EC was/is interested in
misguiding mailing list and Indian community?


When asked about CIS funding - Executive Committee member wrote :

*The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do so. If
> the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
> *


Then why weren't they made public by you? CIS clearly stated - they are
funding Chapter, and in past (also) they have supported in-kind.

Why is the hesitation for acknowledging this? On the contrary - there is
strong rejection of even having any kind of connection with CIS from
Chapter representatives. (On the other hand CIS is graciously
open/alright to acknowledge links with the Chapter)


On A Query about CIS funding Chapter Flight Tickets : Response from
Secretary was-

*.making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list,
> *


Which part was unsubstantiated?  Its the reality that this time Chapter
Board Member's Flight tickets ARE covered by CIS even if it includes
training the A2K team.
(CIS has already made it clear on this mailing list)


Why there is hesitation/resistance to have transparency?

Also, the Chapter President gave statement on same thread -

*Please be open and transparent to the
> community. The more you become transparent, it is better for al*l.
>

Are Chapter EC Members  exception to this?

On same lines, Another EC Members says -

* The Chapter is financially accountable to it's MEMBERS,*
>

As correctly stated by , Chapter is having money from WMF, Which comes from
individual donations. So ideally
Chapter should be accountable to the overall community and not just its
members, as rightly pointed out by someone

Again, What is the need to find excuses for transparency?

When there was statement that ''AGM travel expense is covered'' instead of
correcting statement and saying, its wrong - and CIS is paying for Board
Trip (which is coinciding with CIS training!)
Even Chapter President preferred to give out half truth and kept everyone
in dark. And there was Secretary and another EC Member to take whole
mailing list on a ride!


Why it is important?

This could be start of new era - Where CIS supports Chapter financially
whenever needed.
(or in-kind as they did in past and hopefully will continue to do so).

So more and more volunteer efforts can be devoted for outreach/activities.

*Please remember that chapter is representation of the community and
> works for the community *
>

Current scenario gives wrong interpretation and implies that community
should not raise questions on transparency because after-all we are your
 representation! Either consult community before lying or speak (complete)
truth.

Here is response from Sunil,CIS - *
>
> This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related
> expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a
> training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in
> Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising
> a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this
> when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
> *



>From Sunil's mail it is clear that Sunil extended the offer in good-faith,
unaware of Chapter-Board meeting falling at the same time. However Chapter
also seems to have taken this opportunity and is now shy to accept. I don't
understand why?

And why CIS was also kept in dark?


*CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will
>  also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the
> ** training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fee*s.
>

Along with 'air Travel', CIS is providing accommodation too.
And Last sentence about fee budget is interesting.


If Chapter is expecting public support for fundraising and other
activities, then it should be more transparent and 'should avoid organized
and dedicated efforts to misguide community/keep in dark.'


And Hope so CIS takes care of all the
 remaining Chapter financial needs as well, Just keep community in loop.
And Thanks to Sunil/ CIS for being transparent and open.




Keep Clarifying, Keep Inspiring!



-Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune



-- Forwarded message ------
From: Sunil Abraham 
Date: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
To: Abhishek Suryawanshi 
Cc: Wikimedia India Community list 


Dear Abhishek,

CIS is not supporting travel expenses for Chapter EC meetings. Nor has
CIS provided funding to the Chapter so far from the Wikipedia grant.
CIS has provided in-kind support to the Chapter in previous financial
years for ex. society registration costs and the costs of their
financial adviser during their first financial year. We strongly
suppor

This month, we

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Dear Sunil,

Could you please share information about CIS supporting Chapter Travel
expenses?

And Its nice and positive move, Great to see CIS continues to support
movement in India.
Volunteers can devote their time in doing activities and CIS can support as
per request.

As Chapter is shy/silent about acknowledging funding from CIS - Hope so
your reply will clarify that CIS is there to support Chapter activities
irrespective of criticism.


Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring! :)



Regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune





>>
>>
>>   --
>> *From:* Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
>>
>> *To:* Wikimedia India Community list <
>> wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 12 February 2013 11:31 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
>>
>> Membership under processing is differnt from memvership alreadt
>> processed. INDI-31 is non existant and will remain so.
>>
>> As for CIS funding, you still havwn't said where you have got the
>> "information" from.
>> The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do so. If
>> the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
>>
>> n Tuesday, February 12, 2013, Abhishek Suryawanshi <
>> i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear Srikanth,
>> > I appreciate you keep a check of the Chapter Membership List. But at
>> the same time I guess you will also respect the Chapter President's word. I
>> have had a talk with Sudhanwa (President,Wikimedia India Chapter) and just
>> two days back he informed me that my Chapter-membership is being proceed. I
>> would like you to have or increase your communications with other EC
>> members (or at-least with President) before claiming me or anybody else
>> with allegations such as a 'Cheat' :)
>> >
>> > P.S : How does it affects my query about CIS funding chapter's travel
>> for Board meeting or not ?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Abhishek Suryawanshi,
>> > On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>> srik.r...@wikimedia.in> wrote:
>> >
>> > Just to  inform you that Abhishek Suryawanshi, who claims to be a
>> > Chapter Member with membership number INDI-31 is NOT a member. The
>> > entry currently doesn't exist in our membership list. Mr. Suryawanshi
>> > was a member of the Chapter during the earlier Financial Year and did
>> > NOT renew his membership. I hope the community is now aware of what
>> > kind of people it is dealing with.
>> >
>> > On 2/12/13, Abhishek Suryawanshi 
>> wrote:
>> >> *@Karthik - *
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *If you have a question, you can ask it in the form of a question *
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Why Chapter is denying/ignoring fact flight tickets for members are
>> covered
>> >> by third party?
>> >>
>> >>  *instead **of making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list,*
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Do you mean to say 'CIS is supporting' part is unsubstantiated? Then
>> please
>> >> state who is covering travel expenses?
>> >>
>> >> *which is frankly unproductive since it requires us to spend time to
>> send
>> >>> out clarifications.  *
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Could you please elaborate 'unproductive' term and 'sending out
>> >> clarification' part? What clarification is given? On contrary You are
>> >> putting up efforts to blur whole situation.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *@Sudhanwa - *
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *> 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered
>> by
>> >>> CIS.
>> >>>
>> >>> Absolutely wrong information you have go*t.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> AGM word is wrong and Board Meeting is correct, right? Please correct
>> if
>> >> wrong.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *> I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is
>> >>> required
>> >>> > for next year activities? and Which activities are planned?
>> >>>
>> >>> Grant requests are always on public wiki and the numbers are always

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

> *I understand this might be a serious issue, but I trust all India
> mailing list is definitely not the platform for discussion.
> *


India Community deserves to know answers. At one end Chapter is criticizing
CIS continuously on other hand its accepting financial help from them and I
am wondering whats wrong in acknowledging it! If someone is helping then
its ethical and normal to acknowledge it?

Its might be beginning of new era - where Chapter is focusing on outreach
and activities events and CIS taking care of financial needs.
Its good to see its already started..

*we will have to move beyond the question to get the answe*r.
>

Chapter should be ready to share answers.



Regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune



On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Abhijith Jayanthi <
abhijithsince1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Guys,
>
> I understand this might be a serious issue, but I trust all India mailing
> list is definitely not the platform for discussion. Please continue this
> conversation privately, also - wanted to check on couple of points:
>
> (1) Do we have a policy of permitted issues to be discussed over the all
> India Mailing list - if not, there is a necessity to work on it.
> (2) Disclosures and grievance handling procedures should be shared with
> each member upon joining and the mechanism should be followed.
>
> Again, pointing fingers or rephrasing the issue itself is not the solution
> - we will have to move beyond the question to get the answer.
>
> - abhijith
>
>
>
>   --
> *From:* Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
>
> *To:* Wikimedia India Community list 
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 12 February 2013 11:31 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
>
> Membership under processing is differnt from memvership alreadt processed.
> INDI-31 is non existant and will remain so.
>
> As for CIS funding, you still havwn't said where you have got the
> "information" from.
> The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do so. If
> the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
>
> n Tuesday, February 12, 2013, Abhishek Suryawanshi <
> i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear Srikanth,
> > I appreciate you keep a check of the Chapter Membership List. But at the
> same time I guess you will also respect the Chapter President's word. I
> have had a talk with Sudhanwa (President,Wikimedia India Chapter) and just
> two days back he informed me that my Chapter-membership is being proceed. I
> would like you to have or increase your communications with other EC
> members (or at-least with President) before claiming me or anybody else
> with allegations such as a 'Cheat' :)
> >
> > P.S : How does it affects my query about CIS funding chapter's travel
> for Board meeting or not ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Abhishek Suryawanshi,
> > On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
> srik.r...@wikimedia.in> wrote:
> >
> > Just to  inform you that Abhishek Suryawanshi, who claims to be a
> > Chapter Member with membership number INDI-31 is NOT a member. The
> > entry currently doesn't exist in our membership list. Mr. Suryawanshi
> > was a member of the Chapter during the earlier Financial Year and did
> > NOT renew his membership. I hope the community is now aware of what
> > kind of people it is dealing with.
> >
> > On 2/12/13, Abhishek Suryawanshi 
> wrote:
> >> *@Karthik - *
> >>
> >>
> >> *If you have a question, you can ask it in the form of a question *
> >>
> >>
> >> Why Chapter is denying/ignoring fact flight tickets for members are
> covered
> >> by third party?
> >>
> >>  *instead **of making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list,*
> >>>
> >>
> >> Do you mean to say 'CIS is supporting' part is unsubstantiated? Then
> please
> >> state who is covering travel expenses?
> >>
> >> *which is frankly unproductive since it requires us to spend time to
> send
> >>> out clarifications.  *
> >>
> >>
> >> Could you please elaborate 'unproductive' term and 'sending out
> >> clarification' part? What clarification is given? On contrary You are
> >> putting up efforts to blur whole situation.
> >>
> >>
> >> *@Sudhanwa - *
> >>
> >>
> >> *> 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered
&g

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Dear Srikanth,

I appreciate you keep a check of the Chapter Membership List. But at the
same time I guess you will also respect the Chapter President's word. I
have had a talk with Sudhanwa (President,Wikimedia India Chapter) and just
two days back he informed me that my Chapter-membership is being proceed. I
would like you to have or increase your communications with other EC
members (or at-least with President) before claiming me or anybody else
with allegations such as a 'Cheat' :)

*P.S* : How does it affects my query about CIS funding chapter's travel for
Board meeting or not ?



Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune




On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
srik.r...@wikimedia.in> wrote:

> Just to  inform you that Abhishek Suryawanshi, who claims to be a
> Chapter Member with membership number INDI-31 is NOT a member. The
> entry currently doesn't exist in our membership list. Mr. Suryawanshi
> was a member of the Chapter during the earlier Financial Year and did
> NOT renew his membership. I hope the community is now aware of what
> kind of people it is dealing with.
>
> On 2/12/13, Abhishek Suryawanshi  wrote:
> > *@Karthik - *
> >
> >
> > *If you have a question, you can ask it in the form of a question *
> >
> >
> > Why Chapter is denying/ignoring fact flight tickets for members are
> covered
> > by third party?
> >
> >  *instead **of making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list,*
> >>
> >
> > Do you mean to say 'CIS is supporting' part is unsubstantiated? Then
> please
> > state who is covering travel expenses?
> >
> > *which is frankly unproductive since it requires us to spend time to send
> >> out clarifications.  *
> >
> >
> > Could you please elaborate 'unproductive' term and 'sending out
> > clarification' part? What clarification is given? On contrary You are
> > putting up efforts to blur whole situation.
> >
> >
> > *@Sudhanwa - *
> >
> >
> > *> 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by
> >> CIS.
> >>
> >> Absolutely wrong information you have go*t.
> >>
> >
> > AGM word is wrong and Board Meeting is correct, right? Please correct if
> > wrong.
> >
> >
> > *> I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is
> >> required
> >> > for next year activities? and Which activities are planned?
> >>
> >> Grant requests are always on public wiki and the numbers are always
> >> open to all for discussions. You will find these details in the
> >> upcoming requests. Asaf has already indicated the same on the list.
> >>
> >> If you have any activities planned, please let us know. We will plan
> >> the resources accordingly (budgets, people etc) Same request also goes
> >> to all the people in the community. Please let us know what you want
> >> to do. We are here to support you in whatever best way we can. Do not
> >> hesitate to ask for suppo*rt.
> >>
> >
> > It seems you are missing out whole point, I am talking about fixed
> expenses
> > and 'possible' activities. Like Board meeting travel expenses. Which can
> be
> > covered and are (already) getting covered by third parties like CIS.
> >
> > So it makes more sense to spend volunteer efforts on outreach kind of
> > activities than running for money? specially when third parties are
> > interested in supporting financially?
> >
> > When CIS is wrong, there is hard criticism, and when they support
> > financially - I guess there could be minimum acknowledgement?.
> > I think CIS may help chapter to cover other expenses also if needed. So
> > Chapter can focus on productive outreach and activities?
> >
> >
> >
> > *@Dhaval - *
> >
> >
> > *> 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account. *
> >>
> >> *And what do you think could be done by that HUGE AMOUNT of 1.5+ Indian
> >> Rupees?*
> >>
> >> *I think chapter has its office in Bangalore and based on my experience,
> >> I know that any property requires paying off few bills, e.g.
> electricity,
> >> water, property tax, tel/internet (if it has got) and these things are
> >> not
> >> so cheap in Today's India as they were in my days of teen (20 years
> >> ago).*
> >>
> >
> > That is base amount, Someone from Chapter might be able to answer exact
> > fixed expenses? Its

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

*@Karthik - *


*If you have a question, you can ask it in the form of a question *


Why Chapter is denying/ignoring fact flight tickets for members are covered
by third party?

 *instead **of making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list,*
>

Do you mean to say 'CIS is supporting' part is unsubstantiated? Then please
state who is covering travel expenses?

*which is frankly unproductive since it requires us to spend time to send
> out clarifications.  *


Could you please elaborate 'unproductive' term and 'sending out
clarification' part? What clarification is given? On contrary You are
putting up efforts to blur whole situation.


*@Sudhanwa - *


*> 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by
> CIS.
>
> Absolutely wrong information you have go*t.
>

AGM word is wrong and Board Meeting is correct, right? Please correct if
wrong.


*> I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is
> required
> > for next year activities? and Which activities are planned?
>
> Grant requests are always on public wiki and the numbers are always
> open to all for discussions. You will find these details in the
> upcoming requests. Asaf has already indicated the same on the list.
>
> If you have any activities planned, please let us know. We will plan
> the resources accordingly (budgets, people etc) Same request also goes
> to all the people in the community. Please let us know what you want
> to do. We are here to support you in whatever best way we can. Do not
> hesitate to ask for suppo*rt.
>

It seems you are missing out whole point, I am talking about fixed expenses
and 'possible' activities. Like Board meeting travel expenses. Which can be
covered and are (already) getting covered by third parties like CIS.

So it makes more sense to spend volunteer efforts on outreach kind of
activities than running for money? specially when third parties are
interested in supporting financially?

When CIS is wrong, there is hard criticism, and when they support
financially - I guess there could be minimum acknowledgement?.
I think CIS may help chapter to cover other expenses also if needed. So
Chapter can focus on productive outreach and activities?



*@Dhaval - *


*> 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account. *
>
> *And what do you think could be done by that HUGE AMOUNT of 1.5+ Indian
> Rupees?*
>
> *I think chapter has its office in Bangalore and based on my experience,
> I know that any property requires paying off few bills, e.g. electricity,
> water, property tax, tel/internet (if it has got) and these things are not
> so cheap in Today's India as they were in my days of teen (20 years ago).*
>

That is base amount, Someone from Chapter might be able to answer exact
fixed expenses? Its always easy to find 'in-kind' donations as compared to
cash. Its difficult specially when tax exemption is missing. And it might
need extra efforts to run for money.
And why? There are people/organization which are taking care of expenses
already!

These expenses can be covered easily if there is clarity on 'what is
needed'.

I have already explained 'in-kind' donation concept, Please see :
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2013-February/009257.html


> *> I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is
> required for next year activities? and Which activities are planned? *
> * *
>
> *I don't think this is a simple query Abhishek. Have you seen chapter
> website? I'll strongly recomend you visit it. There is a link to Grants
> page in navigation menu. If you visit that page, you'll realise that
> chapter has funded several activities carried out by communities. Do you
> think will it be possible for chapter to tell you today that how many grant
> requests it is going to get this year? How much ammount will it be
> requested from various communities? Or do you suggest chapter decide a
> figure today and put a cap on grants and other expenses once that amount is
> used?*
> * *
>
> *This is just one example, don't take it as "the only expense" of chapte*
> r.
>

*This is just one example, don't take it as "the only expense" of chapte*r.
- I am talking about other 'fixed' expenses for possible activities which
can be zeroed down. Again refer above 'in-kind' link on how to zero it
down.


*> 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by
> CIS.
> >
> I qlways thought WMIN and CIS were two seperate entities and their
> finances are dealt seperately. Will love you elaborating more on thi*s.
>

Your thoughts/assumption is correct, on which part you want elaboration?
And its Board Meeting flight tickets ex

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

I am talking about upcoming Board Meeting, Correct me if someone else is
funding Travel expenses of Chapter. Its CIS right?

Point is - If expenses are well known like this, other organizations can
chip in to support Chapter. And 'in-kind' donations will be helpful.

Its good to see CIS is helping Chapter, and why Chapter wants to keep it as
secret? At same time there are dedicated efforts in all mails to keep
everyone in dark about Travel support, is there any specific reason behind
it??



Regards,

-Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune





On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
srik.r...@wikimedia.in> wrote:

> Abhishek,  where are you getting these ideas from? As our Secretary
> stated, please stop speaking for us. Substantiate your claim that CIS
> is funding us. The Chapter is financially accountable to it's MEMBERS,
> and will put up all Grants, and other details in public. Running a
> society in India has a thousand formalities with various Government
> departments.
>
> On 2/12/13, Abhishek Suryawanshi  wrote:
> > I meant Board Meeting.  Sorry for confusion and apologies for same.
> >
> > Chapter flight tickets and travel expenses are covered by CIS, Correct me
> > if I am wrong???
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Abhishek Suryawanshi,
> > On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:30 AM, Dhaval S. Vyas 
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 11 Feb 2013 17:25, "Abhishek Suryawanshi" <
> >> i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > It will be unfair to call it cheating, however -
> >> >
> >> > 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account.
> >>
> >> And what do you think could be done by that HUGE AMOUNT of 1.5+ Indian
> >> Rupees?
> >>
> >> I think chapter has its office in Bangalore and based on my experience,
> I
> >> know that any property requires paying off few bills, e.g. electricity,
> >> water, property tax, tel/internet (if it has got) and these things are
> >> not
> >> so cheap in Today's India as they were in my days of teen (20 years
> ago).
> >>
> >> >
> >> > 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by
> >> CIS.
> >> >
> >> I qlways thought WMIN and CIS were two seperate entities and their
> >> finances are dealt seperately. Will love you elaborating more on this.
> >>
> >> > I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is
> >> required for next year activities? and Which activities are planned?
> >>
> >> I don't think this is a simple query Abhishek. Have you seen chapter
> >> website? I'll strongly recomend you visit it. There is a link to Grants
> >> page in navigation menu. If you visit that page, you'll realise that
> >> chapter has funded several activities carried out by communities. Do you
> >> think will it be possible for chapter to tell you today that how many
> >> grant
> >> requests it is going to get this year? How much ammount will it be
> >> requested from various communities? Or do you suggest chapter decide a
> >> figure today and put a cap on grants and other expenses once that amount
> >> is
> >> used?
> >>
> >> This is just one example, don't take it as "the only expense" of
> chapter.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Lets have this clarity and transparency, so together we can make sure
> >> India Chapter is also strong (financially) like other Chapters.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > -Abhishek Suryawanshi,
> >> > On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Regards,
> >> Dhaval
> >> (on my own behalf)
> >>
> >> Disclaimer: I have no formal tie with the chapter nor with CIS. I have
> no
> >> financial inrerest with either of them personally.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Rudolph the Rd Nosed Reindeer <
> >> rednosedr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Interesting isn't it? That one should have timed that A2K bulletin to
> >> come out exactly when the Chapter is having a fundraiser and leave
> people
> >> like the good Doctor here confused about all this? See

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

I meant Board Meeting.  Sorry for confusion and apologies for same.

Chapter flight tickets and travel expenses are covered by CIS, Correct me
if I am wrong???




-Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune





On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:30 AM, Dhaval S. Vyas  wrote:

>
> On 11 Feb 2013 17:25, "Abhishek Suryawanshi" <
> i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > It will be unfair to call it cheating, however -
> >
> > 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account.
>
> And what do you think could be done by that HUGE AMOUNT of 1.5+ Indian
> Rupees?
>
> I think chapter has its office in Bangalore and based on my experience, I
> know that any property requires paying off few bills, e.g. electricity,
> water, property tax, tel/internet (if it has got) and these things are not
> so cheap in Today's India as they were in my days of teen (20 years ago).
>
> >
> > 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by
> CIS.
> >
> I qlways thought WMIN and CIS were two seperate entities and their
> finances are dealt seperately. Will love you elaborating more on this.
>
> > I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is
> required for next year activities? and Which activities are planned?
>
> I don't think this is a simple query Abhishek. Have you seen chapter
> website? I'll strongly recomend you visit it. There is a link to Grants
> page in navigation menu. If you visit that page, you'll realise that
> chapter has funded several activities carried out by communities. Do you
> think will it be possible for chapter to tell you today that how many grant
> requests it is going to get this year? How much ammount will it be
> requested from various communities? Or do you suggest chapter decide a
> figure today and put a cap on grants and other expenses once that amount is
> used?
>
> This is just one example, don't take it as "the only expense" of chapter.
>
> >
> >
> > Lets have this clarity and transparency, so together we can make sure
> India Chapter is also strong (financially) like other Chapters.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > -Abhishek Suryawanshi,
> > On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
> >
> >
> Regards,
> Dhaval
> (on my own behalf)
>
> Disclaimer: I have no formal tie with the chapter nor with CIS. I have no
> financial inrerest with either of them personally.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Rudolph the Rd Nosed Reindeer <
> rednosedr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Interesting isn't it? That one should have timed that A2K bulletin to
> come out exactly when the Chapter is having a fundraiser and leave people
> like the good Doctor here confused about all this? Seems a bit deliberately
> done, don't you think?
> >>
> >> Too bad I ain't an Indian citizen, Else I would have donated a
> tremendous amount to you guys.
> >> Will spread the word on donations though.
> >>
> >>
> >> For others, please donate (liberally);
> >> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donate
> >>
> >> 
> >> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:33:02 +0530
> >> From: srik.r...@wikimedia.in
> >> To: nawabhaki...@ymail.com; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Dr. Nawab Hakim,
> >> to clarify, the 2lakh that you are referring to was made as a grant to
> the Centre for Internet and Society, an independent organisation working
> out of Delhi.
> >>
> >> The Wikimedia Chapter (India) is independent society registered in
> India, under the Karnataka Societies Act. It is a Non-Profit entity
> comprising of volunteers. We rely on donations to run the Chapter.
> >>
> >> I hope this clears it out.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Dr. Nawab Hakim <
> nawabhaki...@ymail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> hai, why to donate to wikipedia chapter when they have 2lakh ruppes.
> this is cheating.
> >>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

It will be unfair to call it cheating, however -

1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account.

2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by CIS.

I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is
required for next year activities? and Which activities are planned?


Lets have this clarity and transparency, so together we can make sure India
Chapter is also strong (financially) like other Chapters.



Regards,
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On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune






On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Rudolph the Rd Nosed Reindeer <
rednosedr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Interesting isn't it? That one should have timed that A2K bulletin to
> come out exactly when the Chapter is having a fundraiser and leave people
> like the good Doctor here confused about all this? Seems a bit deliberately
> done, don't you think?
>
> Too bad I ain't an Indian citizen, Else I would have donated a tremendous
> amount to you guys.
> Will spread the word on donations though.
>
>
> For others, please donate (liberally);
> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donate
>
> --
> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:33:02 +0530
> From: srik.r...@wikimedia.in
> To: nawabhaki...@ymail.com; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
>
>
> Hi Dr. Nawab Hakim,
> to clarify, the 2lakh that you are referring to was made as a grant to the
> Centre for Internet and Society, an independent organisation working out of
> Delhi.
>
> The Wikimedia Chapter (India) is independent society registered in India,
> under the Karnataka Societies Act. It is a Non-Profit entity comprising of
> volunteers. We rely on donations to run the Chapter.
>
> I hope this clears it out.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Dr. Nawab Hakim 
> wrote:
>
> hai, why to donate to wikipedia chapter when they have 2lakh ruppes. this
> is cheating.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Republic Day - Marathi Wikipedia Workshop : Report

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Thank you so much Ashwin for appreciation..As one of founder member - Your
mail means alot to us.

P.S : Workshop was conducted in 'Jnana Prabodhini', and many kids and
students were asking about 'you'. You were there for past two Wikipedia
anniversaries and present for almost all Workshops. Activities can be
scaled up and could be more inspiring in your presence. We all miss you.
.Please come back soon :)

Take Care.



Best Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune





On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Ashwin Baindur wrote:

> Great work Suryawanshi, Suryawanshi & Wikipedia Pune Club members!
>
> Ashwin
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Niraj Suryawanshi <
> niraj.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Shrikant,
>> Have u been through the articles yet?
>> any reviews you want to share with us to help us improve better??
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Regards & Thanks,
>>
>> Niraj Suryawanshi
>> on behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
>> +91 8149920120 | niraj.suryawan...@gmail.com
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian Languages question

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Interestingly - People are so sensitive over these words.

I was casual while using those for 'Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages'
and request for participation was sent to all mailing lists.
There was debate about Indic vs Indian vs Dravidian on same Mailing list
about usage.

And strong resistance was shown by other mailing lists privately, and
surprisingly on open mailing lists people were open to Use 'F' word and
censored criticism - I was unaware of such strong issues. Its always good
to respect sentiments over language grouping name.

After many mails, As of now Project name is 'Spoken Wikipedia for Indian
Languages<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_Languages>'
but it will be interesting to know Indic/Indian/Dravidian usage to cover
broader languages.

It might be useful to use Asian Languages term to cover major languages.

Thanks for starting this conversation.


Keep Exploring, Keep Inspiring! :)




Best Regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune



On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Tejaswini Niranjana wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Was the WMF brief for the India office limited to languages in India or
> did it include South Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal,
> Bhutan, Maldives – and by some definitions Tibet and Afghanistan as well)?
> According to what I could find online, the public announcement of WMF
> specifies Hindi and 20 other Indian languages. As I’ve discussed with some
> of you before, the term “Indic” could be problematic when used to refer to
> contemporary languages, and I’m sure our South Asian neighbours will take
> strong exception to their languages being given this description. The issue
> isn't merely a philological one to do with the etymology of words, but has
> extensive social and political ramifications, as we would all know from
> different kinds of contexts.
>
>
> If we’re presently intervening in generating content and increasing
> editorship for languages used in India, we should perhaps be using the term
> “Indian languages”. If we’re including languages that have a different
> originating location geographically, like Nepali, we should say “South
> Asian languages”. Of course there will be the problematic cases of Bangla,
> Punjabi and Urdu which are spoken across borders. I heard from Wikipedia
> users in Kolkata that the majority of Bangla wiki editors are from
> Bangladesh. This was a casual remark and needs to be borne out by an actual
> survey. It would be an interesting challenge to confront this problem
> rather than avoid it.
>
>
>
> Here’s a brief note on the Indic/Indian question:
>
>
>
> *Indic:* a theoretical concept used to *refer to common characteristics*of 
> the languages falling in the family of languages native to India. Most
> often the term 'Indic' means ''of Indian origin". This usage is in line
> with the assumptions of classical philology that Indian languages and
> customs share a common root and origin. Such assumptions have either 
> been*challenged for their overwhelming homogeneity
> * or have become* theoretically less and less useful* over the years in
> understanding the growth of Indian culture and society. At any rate, Indic
> in contemporary theoretical usage refers to ancient and medieval historical
> texts and languages of the Indian subcontinent and has an archaic ring to
> it.
>
> *Indian Languages:* a term referring to all the languages which are in
> use in India. Unlike the previous term, it doesn’t contain any hidden
> theoretical or ideological assumptions and may be used to refer neutrally
> to languages which have been in India for a considerable amount of time.
> This usage may be more appropriate to Wikipedia’s NPOV position.
>
> Eg., While there can be debate about whether Urdu is an Indic language,
> there can be no controversy in stating that Urdu is an Indian language.
> While Nepali and Sinhalese are definitely Indic languages owing to their
> linguistic genealogy, we may choose to, or not choose to, term them as
> Indian languages based on the geographical and political context we’re
> referring to. [Here, I would strongly recommend using the term South Asian
> languages - this usage is common in defining a disciplinary domain as well,
> such as South Asian Studies. Famous university departments such as the SALC
> at the University of Chicago explicitly use the term South Asian Languages
> (and Civilizations, but that is another story).] By the way, South Indian
> languages are technically speaking not 'Indic' at all, since they belong to
> the Dravidian language family. We can't also forget that it is three South
> Indian languages - Kannada, Tamil, Telugu - that are re

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Kolkata 2

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Wow! This is nice..

Working in team for single spot will add new dimension. For Wikipedia Takes
Pune, we had group of 4 people for one location - After introductory
session, we provided them Google Map and Wikipedia Article copy of same -
So along with photograph they also learn about aspects of that place.
Example - Group going to ShaniwarWada Was briefed in advance about
importance and unknown facts about that place - so photographer is clear
about 'what' to capture. We requested to form group with stranges, so it
was 'fun' part - everyone got to spend whole day with strangers who shared
same photography passion...
Result of this exercise - Within 5 hours, 5,000+ photos were uploaded on
Commons.At end of day we had 6,500+ photos.

This is great team building exercise, we received many amazing volunteers
for club events. And majority work of Summit was executed by people who
were participant at Takes Pune event, later on they became key persons in
Club management.

All the best for Wikipedia Takes Kolkata!


Keep Organizing, Keep Inspiring! :-)


Best Regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune




On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kalyan Sarkar wrote:

> All,
>
> We are happy to announce that we are going to organize Wikipedia Takes
> Kolkata 2 on 3rd March 2013.
>
> We are planning to cover the following -
>
> 1. Bow Barracks
> 2. Kapalitola Kali temple
> 3. Chinese temples
> 4. Magen David synagogue
> 5. Armenian Church
> 6. Greek Orthodox Church
> 7. Beth El synagogue
> 8. Portuguese Church
> 9. Any suggestions are welcome..
>
> Last but not the least, we'll have Chinese breakfast at Tirettabazar after
> taking snaps of the Chinese temples.
>
> Anybody who would be in Kolkata around that time please don't forget to
> join the fun.
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Kalyan Sarkar
> 9836063920
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

*It wasn't clear from this thread as to why these two issues are very
> important to be solved *right now** ?



Recently, There was talk/presentation by Chapter President encouraging
people to become member of Wikimedia India Chapter.
There is nice response to appeal and people are highly interested in being
member of Chapter, at same time few people have limitations like age and
nationality. They want to be associated with Chapter.

Regarding timing of query - as per information provided in presentation,
Membership will be counted from April-2013 to March-2014.
So it makes more sense to give our best to enroll every interested person
to become member by overcoming possible barriers.

This thread's name and content might be different - Will start new thread
with possible improvements so all suggestions will be on same thread and
execution might be easy.




Best Regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune



On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 3:14 PM, sankarshan wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Gautam John  wrote:
> > Abhishek - could you please let us know which NGOs in Bangalore,
> > registered as Societies in the last couple of years, have membership
> > for those below 18 and for foreign nationals, please? It will be very
> > useful for WMIN when they decide to make their case to the Registrar?
> > Having been part of the team that registered the Society, I can
> > clarify that these restrictions were not WMIN's but the Registrar of
> > Society's.
>
> It wasn't clear from this thread as to why these two issues are very
> important to be solved *right now* ?
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

*could you please let us know which NGOs in Bangalore,
> registered as Societies in the last couple of years, have membership
> for those below 18 and for foreign nationals, please? It will be very
> useful for WMIN when they decide to make their case to the Registrar?
> Having been part of the team that registered the Society, I can
> clarify that these restrictions were not WMIN's but the Registrar of
> Society's.
> *



Bangalore - One example could be Art of Living. And am clueless about
Karnataka Society Law's. In Pune Osho provides membership access to foreign
nationals, it might be registered differently (other than society.)


*As for your latter point on "'Is it adult censored organization?' -
> one could ask whether voting in this country is an 'Is it adult
> censored organization*?'
>


That was comment from someone who had query.,
Other than voting, minors do have access to health, education and other
facilities. Govt provides service/'citizenship' to citizens irrespective of
age..
Like I suggested [possible solution] in another thread [[1]] - There can be
minimal/virtual membership. Its just to include  every interested person
into Chapter. People may feel bad if we keep them away.
If possible - lets try to include as many people as we can??..


*> Can we expect -  new Membership (April-2013 to March 2014) will be
> available
> > to everyone by crossing age and nationality barrier? :)
> * *
> It is highly unlikely that the Registrar, should he give his approval,
> will be able to take a decision on this in such a compressed time
> frame.
> *


Hope so at-least process will start soon. :)


Keep Exploring, Keep Inspiring!



Best Regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune


[[1]] Possible Solution -
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2013-February/009287.html



On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Gautam John  wrote:

> On 9 February 2013 01:37, Abhishek Suryawanshi
>  wrote:
>
> > I guess it is possible to extend membership criteria for foreign
> nationals
> > as well youngsters below 18 years. I know NGO's from Bangalore which
> accept
> > memberships from foreign delegates.
>
> Abhishek - could you please let us know which NGOs in Bangalore,
> registered as Societies in the last couple of years, have membership
> for those below 18 and for foreign nationals, please? It will be very
> useful for WMIN when they decide to make their case to the Registrar?
> Having been part of the team that registered the Society, I can
> clarify that these restrictions were not WMIN's but the Registrar of
> Society's.
>
> As for your latter point on "'Is it adult censored organization?' -
> one could ask whether voting in this country is an 'Is it adult
> censored organization?'
>
> Lastly, The Wikipedia Club Pune isn't, AFAIK, an organisation as much
> as it is a collective of individuals and a Facebook page. There is a
> difference, in law, between that and a Society - such as WMIN.
>
> > Can we expect -  new Membership (April-2013 to March 2014) will be
> available
> > to everyone by crossing age and nationality barrier? :)
>
> It is highly unlikely that the Registrar, should he give his approval,
> will be able to take a decision on this in such a compressed time
> frame.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

*I'd now like to speak on behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune. We would
> officially like to change our language preference to Portuguese, and affirm
> that Pune is the second bestest place in India, after Delhi. Also We like
> Cheese! Thank you that is all.*
>

Saddi Dilli ...mantê-lo ;-)
and With Cheese you get free Wada Pav!  [invisible] Font and glasses
complimentary.. [/invisible]


*Anyway, please look forward to having more brazilian members of your club
> than pune ones. Some of those would be underage boys and girls, but you are
> from an "older generation" of course. :P
> *


Oh! More Brazilians - Great! And being more older - We can switch back to
Orkut also! (Ah - Good old days and unforgettable memories)

*The 18 is the age requirement usually set by the law, and when you decide
> to officially register your organization as a society,
> *


My only concern is to 'include' every interested wikimedian in Chapter.
(With due respect to Indian Laws)

Official Legal Member might be heavy and big thing and law might be having
problems with 18 age limit.

[possible solution]
What about having small level / virtual recognition and acceptance into
chapter? Once they cross 18+ limit , then they can become members
officially. Before that can we create sub-space where we can accommodate
everyone irrespective of age?
[/possible solution]



Keep Suggesting, Keep Inspiring!



Regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi,
Your fellow Wikipedia Club Pune Member




On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Theo10011  wrote:

>
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi <
> i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> *BTW I'd like to join this "Wikipedia club pune" of yours along with 3
>>> other brazilians, one of them might be under 18 - I'm not sure. I'd like to
>>> join and speak on its behalf please. *
>>>
>>
>> You are welcome to join it. and relax - below 18, above 18 is last thing
>> we care. Special thanks for bringing in diversity to Club.
>>
>> Call us older generation, but we prefer facebook for communication :
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/WikipediaClubPune/
>> Stay connected via group to get updates about club. :-)
>>
>> More than joining, if you 'like' to like things - then you can join 3767
>> Club followers - https://www.facebook.com/WikipediaClubPune
>>
>>
> Thank you.
>
> I'd now like to speak on behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune. We would
> officially like to change our language preference to Portuguese, and affirm
> that Pune is the second bestest place in India, after Delhi. Also We like
> Cheese! Thank you that is all.
>
> Anyway, please look forward to having more brazilian members of your club
> than pune ones. Some of those would be underage boys and girls, but you are
> from an "older generation" of course. :P
>
> BTW in case you haven't realized, that was not to ask for membership but
> point out how important it is to have a resident as a member unless they
> start speaking for a country or a city they know nothing about. The 18 is
> the age requirement usually set by the law, and when you decide to
> officially register your organization as a society, I'll point you to the
> age requirement law or why parental supervision becomes necessary in some
> cases.
>
> Regards
> Theo
> Apparently, Wikipedia Pune Club member
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?

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*BTW I'd like to join this "Wikipedia club pune" of yours along with 3
> other brazilians, one of them might be under 18 - I'm not sure. I'd like to
> join and speak on its behalf please. *
>

You are welcome to join it. and relax - below 18, above 18 is last thing we
care. Special thanks for bringing in diversity to Club.

Call us older generation, but we prefer facebook for communication :
https://www.facebook.com/groups/WikipediaClubPune/
Stay connected via group to get updates about club. :-)

More than joining, if you 'like' to like things - then you can join 3767
Club followers - https://www.facebook.com/WikipediaClubPune


Keep Joining, Keep Inspiring! :)



-Abhishek Suryawanshi,
With extra pair of glasses and font
On behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune


On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Theo10011  wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi <
> i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My query was just to make sure access is available to all irrespective of
>> age and nationality barrier! :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Abhishek Suryawanshi,
>> On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
>>
>> BTW I'd like to join this "Wikipedia club pune" of yours along with 3
> other brazilians, one of them might be under 18 - I'm not sure. I'd like to
> join and speak on its behalf please.
>
> -Theo
>
> PS do they come with those glasses and that font? ;)
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

I want to clarify background about age query :

Regarding age limit - There were many queries from college students (around
15 to 17 years old) about joining Chapter - after inspiring talk by His
Highness Sudhanwa Joglekar (President, Wikimedia India Chapter). It was
decent talk at Club event about ''why someone should join Wikimedia India
Chapter'' .. It would add impact if Chapter talks/presentations end up with
distribution of membership forms. Thanks to him for inspiring below 18
years kids to join Wikimedia India Chapter.

When we told them it is only for 18+, first question they asked - 'Is it
adult censored organization?'


I was a wikipedian first and then became a chapter member, could not renew
> my membership and renewed membership recently and still a wikipedian.
>

I love your passion, Good to know irrespective membership you 'are' and
will be always a Wikipedian...Apart from this -
Lets overcome problems which you had, why you were unable to renew your
membership?
I hope problem was different than submitting birth-certificate to prove you
are 18+

*Chapter is to support the communities and not to create members.
> *

 *
*
*Chapter is there is support to community *is controversial part - lets
keep that aside.
Members are essential to make sure Chapter is there to support community.
Chapter is facilitated by members. So if Chapter is putting up efforts to
'create' members - its justifiable. Hope so they do it better by having
smooth membership registration/renewal process.

*I'd like to ask what are the benefits for a foreign national to be part of
> Wikimedia India (which is a country specific chapter) where he/she can be a
> member of his/her own country?
> *


Along with uninvited foreign money transfer problems - it might give
Chapter new direction and new perspective.
And whats harm in having foreign national as member?

and Congrats on Membership renewal. Now you are 'certified (18+) Member' as
well as (Indian) Wikipedian. ;)



Regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune


On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi <
subhash...@cis-india.org> wrote:

>
> On 09-Feb-2013, at 1:37 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi wrote:
>
>
> I guess it is possible to extend membership criteria for foreign nationals
> as well youngsters below 18 years. I know NGO's from Bangalore which accept
> memberships from foreign delegates.
>
> Is there anything special associated with it? I was a wikipedian first and
> then became a chapter member, could not renew my membership and renewed
> membership recently and still a wikipedian. Chapter is to support the
> communities and not to create members. I'd like to ask what are the
> benefits for a foreign national to be part of Wikimedia India (which is a
> country specific chapter) where he/she can be a member of his/her own
> country?
>
>
> Can we expect -  new Membership (April-2013 to March 2014) will be
> available to everyone by crossing age and nationality barrier? :)
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Abhishek Suryawanshi,
> On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
>> To: Wikimedia India Community list 
>> Cc:
>> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 01:02:34 +0530
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?
>> While the age restriction might be modifiable, I'm not too sure yet,
>> will have to check with the Karnataka Registrar of Societies, the
>> Nationality of members has to be Indian as set down by the Ministry of
>> Home Affairs, Goverment of India.
>>
>> On 2/7/13, Abhishek Suryawanshi  wrote:
>> > Thanks Arun for clarification.
>> >
>> > I can understand difficulty in getting registration. As society
>> > registration is done, Hope so membership criteria will improve, so more
>> and
>> > more people can become part of movement.
>> >
>> > My query was just to make sure access is available to all irrespective
>> of
>> > age and nationality barrier! :)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Abhishek Suryawanshi,
>> > On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -- Forwarded message --
>> > From: Arun Ramarathnam 
>> > To: Wikimedia India Community list <
>> wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>> > Cc:
>> > Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 19:53:50 +0530
>> > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Feb 2, 2013 7:22 PM, "Abhishek Suryawanshi" <
>> > i.abhishek.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

I guess it is possible to extend membership criteria for foreign nationals
as well youngsters below 18 years. I know NGO's from Bangalore which accept
memberships from foreign delegates.

Can we expect -  new Membership (April-2013 to March 2014) will be
available to everyone by crossing age and nationality barrier? :)



Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune




>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
> To: Wikimedia India Community list 
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 01:02:34 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?
> While the age restriction might be modifiable, I'm not too sure yet,
> will have to check with the Karnataka Registrar of Societies, the
> Nationality of members has to be Indian as set down by the Ministry of
> Home Affairs, Goverment of India.
>
> On 2/7/13, Abhishek Suryawanshi  wrote:
> > Thanks Arun for clarification.
> >
> > I can understand difficulty in getting registration. As society
> > registration is done, Hope so membership criteria will improve, so more
> and
> > more people can become part of movement.
> >
> > My query was just to make sure access is available to all irrespective of
> > age and nationality barrier! :)
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Abhishek Suryawanshi,
> > On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: Arun Ramarathnam 
> > To: Wikimedia India Community list  >
> > Cc:
> > Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 19:53:50 +0530
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?
> >
> >
> > On Feb 2, 2013 7:22 PM, "Abhishek Suryawanshi" <
> > i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Why there is 18 age limit to become member of Wikimedia India Chapter?
> >
> > Dear Abhishek,
> >
> > I can take that query as one of the folks involved in preparing and
> > debating the original MOA clauses of the chapter.
> >
> > The original intent was to keep membership criteria as open as possible -
> > age,  citizenship,  etc.
> > However the advise of the consultant who helped us with the society
> > registration was to limit membership to adults  and indian citizens based
> > on their  prior experience with getting these registrations through
> > quickly.  We were advised that we could later seek permissions for the
> > above if the authorities so permitted.
> >
> > Not with standing these limitations it took the lot of meetings with
> > authorities to get the formal registration through.  I have attended many
> > of these meetings to get due clearance.
> >
> > Hope that clarifies your query.
> > Regards
> > Arun
> >
> >
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: Abhishek Suryawanshi 
> > To: Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
> > Cc: Wikimedia India Community list  >
> > Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 19:21:39 +0530
> > Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?
> >
> > Dear Srikanth,
> >
> > *When I mentioned it is easy to become a member, I meant for Indian
> >> citizens.*
> >>
> > 100 Rupee is membership fee and whether its small amount or large
> > amount is different point of view.
> >
> >
> >
> > Why there is 18 age limit to become member of Wikimedia India Chapter?
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Abhishek Suryawanshi,
> > On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _
> >
> > *Srikanth Ramakrishnan* srik.ramk at wikimedia.in
> >  40lists.wikimedia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BWikimediaindia-l%5D%20How%20to%20set%20up%20a%20SIG%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CCAKZFZLu1coq2ts46VsaN4_JOuRtqUUXNU0TNx%2BdRXk_4zw81RA%40mail.gmail.com%3E
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Due to legal restrictions only an Indian citizen can become a member of
> the
> > Chapter.
> > When I mentioned it is easy to become a member, I meant for Indian
> > citizens.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)  > wikimedia.org
> > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>* On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <*>* srik.ramk at
> >> wikimedia.in
> >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l>>
> >> wrote:*>**>>* Becoming a member is 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India needs your support: Our First Fundraiser

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

*Can anyone from WMF provide reasons behind withdrawing financial support?
> It is sad to see now Indian Volunteers need to spend extra energy on
> collecting donations. **
> Any clarification from WMF about this? Chapter expenses are beyond
> foundation capacity? *
>

Maybe be (either Chapter or) WMF can clarify doubts and proposed budget.


It will be interesting to know process behind taking this big decision.
Chapter consulted community or WMF before launching fundraiser?
Who proposed idea and who approved it?



Regards,

-Abhishek Suryawanshi



On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Matin shaikh  wrote:

> I am confused about process, does it mean WMF is going to stop donation
> campaign in India? No more Jimmy Wales appeal for Indians?
>
> Also, Can anyone from WMF provide reasons behind withdrawing financial
> support? It is sad to see now Indian Volunteers need to spend extra energy
> on collecting donations.
>
> I will support Chapter fundraiser as WMF itself is encouraging volunteers
> to run for money.
>
> Any clarification from WMF about this? Chapter expenses are beyond
> foundation capacity?
>
> -Matin
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi <
> i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Srikanth,
>>
>> It different than asset concept. Its about making process cashless.
>>
>> For example, Chapter needs xyz amount to manage Travel (For Board 
>> meetings,attending events etc),
>>
>>
>> This can be zeroed down by having 'in-kind' Airline or Travel/Hospitality 
>> partner.
>> i.e instead of providing money to they will offer service/tickets directly, 
>> and this gives them tax exemption under
>> Corporate Social Responsibility 
>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_corporate_social_responsibility_in_India)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> By providing cashless service - In return they get branding and exemption 
>> from Government of India.
>>
>> For company - its easy to provide service as compared to money, If they 
>> provide money - then they have to pay tax.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> So could you please provide Chapters requirements for next one year? So we 
>> can find donors easily?
>> What are Chapters plans after receiving donations? If this is crystal clear 
>> - then its easy to attract more
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> corporates and individuals to donate.
>>
>> This is real glitch - There is separate WMF Fundraiser every year, where 
>> Jimmy Wales makes appeal for donation.
>> People might get confused, Many Indians donate directly to WMF. Is it fair 
>> to ask them to do same again?
>>
>>
>>
>> From third person, it looks like - WMF runs donation campaign, then asks 
>> regional chapters to raise money
>> on their own instead of supporting them. Is there any kind of rejection from 
>> WMF to support Chapter activities
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> financially? or Chapters proposed budget is beyond WMF approval?
>>
>>
>> Already we have few volunteers to spread Wikimedia mission in India.
>> Instead of spending volunteers precious energy on raising donations, Its 
>> better to devote same energy to fulfill Wikimedia mission?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Just curiosity question : Before announcement - Was there any public 
>> discussion about having 'separate' donation campaign?
>> Who proposed and approved idea?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Clarification about Chapters expected budget and 'exact' financial 
>> requirements will enable easy donations.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Abhishek Suryawanshi,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *On 2/7/13, Srikanth Ramakrishnan* < srik.ramk at wikimedia.in 
>> 
>>  > wrote :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Abhishek, thank you for your suggestion. The 'in-kind' donation
>> idea, while good actually has a small glitch. Anything that comes to
>> the Chapter would be considered an asset and be kept in a certain
>> place physically. Moving it out to a different place becomes a
>> problem. Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. Do spread the word about
>> our fundraiser though.
>>
>> On 2/7/13, Abhishek Suryawanshi > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l>> wrote:
>> >* Nice initiative.*
>> >**>* It would be great to have 'in-kind' donations option along with 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India needs your support: Our First Fundraiser

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Dear Srikanth,

It different than asset concept. Its about making process cashless.
For example, Chapter needs xyz amount to manage Travel (For Board
meetings,attending events etc),

This can be zeroed down by having 'in-kind' Airline or
Travel/Hospitality partner.
i.e instead of providing money to they will offer service/tickets
directly, and this gives them tax exemption under
Corporate Social Responsibility
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_corporate_social_responsibility_in_India)

By providing cashless service - In return they get branding and
exemption from Government of India.

For company - its easy to provide service as compared to money, If
they provide money - then they have to pay tax.

So could you please provide Chapters requirements for next one year?
So we can find donors easily?
What are Chapters plans after receiving donations? If this is crystal
clear - then its easy to attract more

corporates and individuals to donate.

This is real glitch - There is separate WMF Fundraiser every year,
where Jimmy Wales makes appeal for donation.
People might get confused, Many Indians donate directly to WMF. Is it
fair to ask them to do same again?

>From third person, it looks like - WMF runs donation campaign, then
asks regional chapters to raise money
on their own instead of supporting them. Is there any kind of
rejection from WMF to support Chapter activities

financially? or Chapters proposed budget is beyond WMF approval?


Already we have few volunteers to spread Wikimedia mission in India.
Instead of spending volunteers precious energy on raising donations,
Its better to devote same energy to fulfill Wikimedia mission?

Just curiosity question : Before announcement - Was there any public
discussion about having 'separate' donation campaign?
Who proposed and approved idea?


Clarification about Chapters expected budget and 'exact' financial
requirements will enable easy donations.




Regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi,

On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune





*On 2/7/13, Srikanth Ramakrishnan* < srik.ramk at wikimedia.in

> wrote :


Hello Abhishek, thank you for your suggestion. The 'in-kind' donation
idea, while good actually has a small glitch. Anything that comes to
the Chapter would be considered an asset and be kept in a certain
place physically. Moving it out to a different place becomes a
problem. Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. Do spread the word about
our fundraiser though.

On 2/7/13, Abhishek Suryawanshi https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l>>
wrote:
>* Nice initiative.*>**>* It would be great to have 'in-kind' donations option 
>along with monetary*>* option.*>**>* i.e If someone wants to donate 
>projector,room,laptop etc in-kind, It may be*>* easy for donor also as well as 
>Chapter to receive it. This will also make*>* sure Tax money is saved from 
>both ends.*>**>**>**>* Just two cents from my side.*>**>**>**>* Regards,*>* 
>Abhishek Suryawanshi,*>**>* On Behalf of Wikipedia Club 
>Pune*>**>**>**>**>**>**>**>* -- Forwarded message --*>* From: 
>Karthik Nadar <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l>>*>* To: 
>Wikimedia India Community list <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l>>*>* Cc:*>* 
>Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 21:19:57 +0530*>* Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia 
>India needs your support: Our First*>* Fundraiser*>* *Dear all,**>* **>* **>* 
>*On the second anniversary of the Chapter, we made public our intention of*>* 
>running our first fundraiser. Going ahead with the first phase of this*>* 
>plan, we will be running a central site notice on the chapter website for a*>* 
>period of two calendar months starting 1 February, 2013. In the second*>* 
>phase of this plan, we aim to approach high networth individuals and*>* 
>corporates in the month of March 2013. This will be done using personal and*>* 
>professional networks of current and past EC members, staff, volunteers*>* 
>among others.**>* **>* Suggestions, help and support from the community on 
>what we can do to*>* ensure success of this fundraiser are welcome. Every drop 
>counts :)*>**>* Donations can be made by Online Bank Transfer (NEFT/RTGS) or 
>by sending us*>* a Cheque through snail mail. We are unable to accept card 
>payments at this*>* current time. Link to the donation page on our website:*>* 
>http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donate*>**>* Thanking you,*>* Executive Committee,*>* 
>Wikimedia India.*>**>* *Reasoning* (From our public statement on 4 January, 
>2013)*>**>* A lot of people may ask why the chapter needs a fundraiser when it 
>has*>* access to WMF funding. The answer is

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India needs your support: Our First Fundraiser

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Nice initiative.

It would be great to have 'in-kind' donations option along with monetary
option.

i.e If someone wants to donate projector,room,laptop etc in-kind, It may be
easy for donor also as well as Chapter to receive it. This will also make
sure Tax money is saved from both ends.



Just two cents from my side.



Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi,

On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune







-- Forwarded message --
From: Karthik Nadar 
To: Wikimedia India Community list 
Cc:
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 21:19:57 +0530
Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India needs your support: Our First
Fundraiser
*Dear all,*
*
*
*On the second anniversary of the Chapter, we made public our intention of
running our first fundraiser. Going ahead with the first phase of this
plan, we will be running a central site notice on the chapter website for a
period of two calendar months starting 1 February, 2013. In the second
phase of this plan, we aim to approach high networth individuals and
corporates in the month of March 2013. This will be done using personal and
professional networks of current and past EC members, staff, volunteers
among others.*
*
Suggestions, help and support from the community on what we can do to
ensure success of this fundraiser are welcome. Every drop counts :)

Donations can be made by Online Bank Transfer (NEFT/RTGS) or by sending us
a Cheque through snail mail. We are unable to accept card payments at this
current time. Link to the donation page on our website:
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donate

Thanking you,
Executive Committee,
Wikimedia India.

*Reasoning* (From our public statement on 4 January, 2013)

A lot of people may ask why the chapter needs a fundraiser when it has
access to WMF funding. The answer is, we are still ineligible for FDC of
WMF (we hope to be eligible for the second round of funding in 2013) and
would need to rely on grants, spending of which is restricted by the WMF.
Since formation, the chapter has relied heavily on the Executive Committee
to take on the burden of running the show. In an ideal world, the EC would
like to take on the role of guiding the chapter rather than actually be
responsible for operations after two years of incorporation, which should
be best done by professionals rather than volunteers in their spare time.

The chapter has hired an employee (Sowmyan Tirumurti, our Executive
Manager) as well as plans to lease its own office premises in Bangalore. We
will need the help of those volunteers who are in a position to support us.
It could be a small individual donation or in the form of a corporate
donation from an institution. A small token of support from you could go a
long way in helping us achieving our goals of furthering the movement in
India.*
*
*
*
*

-- 
Thanks and regards,
Karthik Nadar,
Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Thanks Arun for clarification.

I can understand difficulty in getting registration. As society
registration is done, Hope so membership criteria will improve, so more and
more people can become part of movement.

My query was just to make sure access is available to all irrespective of
age and nationality barrier! :)



Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune





-- Forwarded message --
From: Arun Ramarathnam 
To: Wikimedia India Community list 
Cc:
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 19:53:50 +0530
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?


On Feb 2, 2013 7:22 PM, "Abhishek Suryawanshi" <
i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why there is 18 age limit to become member of Wikimedia India Chapter?

Dear Abhishek,

I can take that query as one of the folks involved in preparing and
debating the original MOA clauses of the chapter.

The original intent was to keep membership criteria as open as possible -
age,  citizenship,  etc.
However the advise of the consultant who helped us with the society
registration was to limit membership to adults  and indian citizens based
on their  prior experience with getting these registrations through
quickly.  We were advised that we could later seek permissions for the
above if the authorities so permitted.

Not with standing these limitations it took the lot of meetings with
authorities to get the formal registration through.  I have attended many
of these meetings to get due clearance.

Hope that clarifies your query.
Regards
Arun


-- Forwarded message ------
From: Abhishek Suryawanshi 
To: Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
Cc: Wikimedia India Community list 
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 19:21:39 +0530
Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?

Dear Srikanth,

*When I mentioned it is easy to become a member, I meant for Indian
> citizens.*
>
100 Rupee is membership fee and whether its small amount or large
amount is different point of view.



Why there is 18 age limit to become member of Wikimedia India Chapter?



Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune






_

*Srikanth Ramakrishnan* srik.ramk at wikimedia.in






Due to legal restrictions only an Indian citizen can become a member of the
Chapter.
When I mentioned it is easy to become a member, I meant for Indian citizens.


On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l>>
wrote:

>* On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <*>* srik.ramk at 
>wikimedia.in <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l>> 
>wrote:*>**>>* Becoming a member is pretty easy. It costs INR 100 to join and 
>requires a*>>* single form to be filled and sent across.*>**>**>* Actually, it 
>isn't. As Bence is not an Indian citizen over 18 or an Indian*>* institution, 
>he cannot be a member.*>**>* Cheers!*>* --*>* Siebrand*>* 
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>unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit*>* 
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-- 
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Member of the Executive Committee
Wikimedia Chapter [India]
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[Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG?

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Dear Srikanth,

*When I mentioned it is easy to become a member, I meant for Indian
> citizens.*
>
100 Rupee is membership fee and whether its small amount or large
amount is different point of view.

Why there is 18 age limit to become member of Wikimedia India Chapter?



Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune





_

*Srikanth Ramakrishnan* srik.ramk at wikimedia.in




Due to legal restrictions only an Indian citizen can become a member of the
Chapter.
When I mentioned it is easy to become a member, I meant for Indian citizens.


On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l>>
wrote:

>* On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <*>* srik.ramk at 
>wikimedia.in <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l>> 
>wrote:*>**>>* Becoming a member is pretty easy. It costs INR 100 to join and 
>requires a*>>* single form to be filled and sent across.*>**>**>* Actually, it 
>isn't. As Bence is not an Indian citizen over 18 or an Indian*>* institution, 
>he cannot be a member.*>**>* Cheers!*>* --*>* Siebrand*>* 
>___*>* Wikimediaindia-l mailing 
>list*>* Wikimediaindia-l at lists.wikimedia.org 
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>unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit*>* 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia Workshop - 16th December-2012 Pune.

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Hi Vickram,

There are many Govt Channels like DD-Gyan or IGNOU, which showcase similar
projects.

I agree with you, project is having huge potential (with proper execution)
, and can be useful in rural India.
We can distribute CD or DVD to ministry n it can be channelized.

Another thing which we can do is - circulate articles through cell phone
operators. So say people can send SMS by typing Dengue to xyz number, n
they will receive article (similar to ringtone download).

We have added few sample of Spoken File (intentionally in sections) after
our todays workshop, Please have a look -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Club_Pune/Spoken_Wikipedia_Workshops#List_of_Languages_with_Volunteers

Before taking any bigger step, its better to have a trial in pilot project.
We are planning to run small pilot project in different pasts of India.
(Smaller stations in two tier cities in north and south India.)

Interestingly, many people from same background have shown interest in
helping us.
We are planning to have brainstorming session with potential partners
during Wikipedia Summit India 2013!

Do let us know what you think about having telecom supporters n local radio
channels.


Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring!


Best Regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi,
User:AbhiSuryawanshi, <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AbhiSuryawanshi>
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune



>>>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Vickram Crishna 
>> To: Wikimedia India Community list 
>> Cc:
>> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:43:54 +0530
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia Workshop - 16th
>> December-2012 Pune.
>>
>> I think this is a pretty good idea. Already, the stations have the need
>> to deliver 6 month's recordings to the relevant Ministry, as part of the
>> t&c of their licenses. We need to establish a 'chain' to each station,
>> whereby an additional copy (presently, the stipulation mentions a cd or
>> DVD) can be made for wikipedia.
>>
>> Actually, I see scope for a very big step forward, where the content is
>> put up on wikipedia every month, for instance, or even at shorter
>> intervals, and the Ministry be sent the links. This will considerably
>> reduce the 'unofficial' pressure on the stations created by the need for
>> monitoring content (presumably to prevent misuse; in reality, such misuse
>> is inherent in the way that licenses are disbursed, but that is a topic for
>> a different list).
>>
>> What I am suggesting, therefore, is cooperation from Wikimedia to make
>> the content of cr stations available online as a practice. The stations
>> would love it, because it will give them huge leverage in being able to get
>> the Ministry off their backs. If the Chapter can get involved, and a
>> framework established to make this online content available regularly at no
>> cost to the stations (which work hand-to-mouth, the genuine ones, I mean) I
>> think it will be a win-win situation.
>>
>> Even without making it a systemic practice, a lot can be done with
>> individual stations, and in any case it is only respectful to approach each
>> station that way. Still, I am pretty sure the existing cr bodies (there are
>> two) will find this suggestion very welcome, and will put their weight
>> behind getting a system in place.
>>
>> --
>> Vickram
>> Fool On The Hill
>> "The cameras were all around. We've got you taped; you're in the play.
>> Here's your I.D. (Ideal for identifying one and all.)
>> Invest your life in the memory bank; ours the interest and we thank you."
>> Jethro Tull: A Passion Play (1973)
>> On Dec 14, 2012 10:24 AM, "Nee Davis"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Abhishek,
>>>
>>> It is a novel effort. Wish the event a big success.
>>>
>>> One suggestion.
>>>
>>> As many on the list may have heard about the growth of Community Radio
>>> in India. Probably it would be ideal if we tie up with some of these not
>>> for profit entities to tap into their recordings and make them available on
>>> the wikiproject platform. This will not only save the energies of community
>>> members in creating new audio articles but will also provide the CR
>>> stations and the rural communities they target a virtual space and also
>>> expand the wiki-India community.
>>>
>>> I would be more than happy to take a lead on this if the community finds
>>> it worthy.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14 December 2012 00:00, Abhishek Suryawanshi <
>>> i.abhishek.suryaw

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia Workshop - 16th December-2012 Pune.

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Dear Nee,

Thank you so much for appreciation.

*if we tie up with some of these not for profit entities to tap into their
> recordings and make them available on the wikiproject platform. This will
> not only save the energies of community members in creating new audio
> articles but will also provide the CR stations and the rural communities
> they target a virtual space and also expand the wiki-India community.
> *


Community Radio suggestion is brilliant,

Today we hosted first ever workshop and people from 13 different languages
contributed to pilot project.
P.S :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Club_Pune/Spoken_Wikipedia_Workshops

We are in touch with radio agencies which can air/distribute articles for
free of cost.

Also we are targeting NGO's working for visually impaired people - so we
can manually circulate articles to share knowledge with disabled people.

There are many aspects before launching, we are just learning from Pilot
projects.


Keep Suggesting, Keep Inspiring! :-)



Best Regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi,
User:AbhiSuryawanshi, <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AbhiSuryawanshi>
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune


>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Nee Davis 
> To: Wikimedia India Community list 
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:24:36 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia Workshop - 16th
> December-2012 Pune.
> Hi Abhishek,
>
> It is a novel effort. Wish the event a big success.
>
> One suggestion.
>
> As many on the list may have heard about the growth of Community Radio in
> India. Probably it would be ideal if we tie up with some of these not for
> profit entities to tap into their recordings and make them available on the
> wikiproject platform. This will not only save the energies of community
> members in creating new audio articles but will also provide the CR
> stations and the rural communities they target a virtual space and also
> expand the wiki-India community.
>
> I would be more than happy to take a lead on this if the community finds
> it worthy.
>
> Best
>
>
> On 14 December 2012 00:00, Abhishek Suryawanshi <
> i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> (Similar E-Mail is sent to all Indian Language mailing 
>> lists<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Indic_Languages#Indic_Language_Wiki_Projects>
>> )
>>
>> Dear Wikipedia Community,
>>
>> We are planning to develop Dengue article on all Indian Languages.
>> Wikipedia Club Pune is organizing dedicated workshop on 16th December 2012.
>>
>> We would like to invite you participate in Workshop (online or offline as
>> per your convenience)
>>
>> Article of Dengue will be edited through collaborative editing session,
>> and it will be recorded later on as part of Spoken 
>> Wikipedia.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_Languages>
>>
>>
>>- Venue : PAI International Learning Solutions,Camp,Pune 01
>>- Date : 16th December 2012 (Sunday)
>>- Time : 10:30AM to 02:00PM
>>
>>
>>
>> *FAQ : *
>>
>> *1)Why Dengue Article : *
>>
>> A: Dengue fever is common in this session, so it will be helpful to many
>> people.
>>
>> *2)What about other diseases? *
>>
>> A: We will be covering major diseases one by one in upcoming Sunday
>> workshops.
>>
>> *3)What is Spoken Wikipedia for Indian Languages? *
>>
>> The *WikiProject Spoken Indian Language Wikipedia* is a project
>> undertaken by Wikipedia Club Pune to give a voice to the Indian community
>> and to create a knowledge domain of information related to India and Indian
>> languages through audio recordings of the articles (in various native
>> languages).
>>
>> P.S :
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_Languages
>>
>>
>> *4)Why (Only) health related articles? *
>>
>> As of now - Our first priority is Health related articles on Indian
>> Language Wikipedia. After recording articles, we are planning to circulate
>> these articles in underprivileged community.
>>
>> *5)How I can help? *
>>
>> Please add your name to Workshop page to help us.
>> *Register* :
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Club_Pune/Spoken_Wikipedia_Workshops
>>
>>
>> Kindly do let us know if you have any doubts/queries or suggestions!
>>
>>
>> Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Abhishek Suryawanshi,
>> User:AbhiSuryawanshi, <http://en.wikip

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Thanks Navin for suggestions.
Also Thanks to others who suggested improvements and signed up on project
page.

We are planning to host first Spoken Wikipedia Workshop on
16th-December-2012.

Details -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Club_Pune/Spoken_Wikipedia_Workshops


Keep Suggesting, Keep Inspiring!



Best Regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi,
User:AbhiSuryawanshi <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AbhiSuryawanshi>
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune




> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Naveen Francis 
> To: Wikimedia India Community list 
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 08:08:07 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages
> Good initiative Abhishek !!
>
> You can also try out ..
> http://dhvani.sourceforge.net/
> http://silpa.org.in/TTS
>
>
> Thanks,
> Naveen Francis
> <http://wikibooks.in>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi <
> i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> In India, We have electricity and internet problems, and even Offline
>> Wikipedia also shows limitation if person is unable to read/person with
>> disabilities to read..
>>
>> It may be useful to have *basic health related Indic articles* covered
>> on Spoken 
>> Wikipedia<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_Languages>
>> .
>> It will create general awareness about common diseases like Diabetics,
>> Cancer, Dengue etc.
>>
>> (Multimedia) Mobile Phones penetration in rural area is high, and Indic
>> Language Spoken articles can be circulated easily via chain messaging or
>> via operators.
>>
>> Please have a look at -
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_Languages
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Abhishek Suryawanshi,
>> User:AbhiSuryawanshi <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AbhiSuryawanshi>
>> On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune 
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Club_Pune/About_Us>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> -- Forwarded message --
> From: sankarshan 
> To: Wikimedia India Community list 
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 08:54:42 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Theo10011  wrote:
>
> > Heh, I didn't know you became a cultural authority on what words were
> wrong,
> > from the last few visit(s) to India. :P Anyway, It would be any
> linguist's
> > folly to presume the cultural context of words, without knowing the
> culture
> > and what precedes the word. I suppose this should give Anirudh the same
> > authority to instruct what words are wrong in context of your homeland,
> > incognizant of any political undertones and cultural issues?
>
> Ignoring the somewhat ad hominem nature of the argument, you do
> realize that "Indic" is something that is used at the Unicode
> Consortium to denote the group of Indo-European languages comprising
> Sanskrit and the modern Indian languages that are its descendants.
>
>
>
> --
> sankarshan mukhopadhyay
> <https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan>
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: ஆமாச்சு 
> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:03:39 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages
> On Friday 16 November 2012 08:54 AM, sankarshan wrote:
>
>> Indo-European languages comprising
>> Sanskrit and the modern Indian languages that are its descendants.
>>
>
> barring Tamil :-)
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: sankarshan 
> To: Wikimedia India Community list 
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:13:29 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:03 AM, ஆமாச்சு  wrote:
> > On Friday 16 November 2012 08:54 AM, sankarshan wrote:
> >>
> >> Indo-European languages comprising
> >> Sanskrit and the modern Indian languages that are its descendants.
> >
> >
> > barring Tamil :-)
>
> The Wikipedia seems to use Indic and Brahmic scripts as synonyms of
> each other. Does your contention ho

[Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia Workshop - 16th December-2012 Pune.

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

(Similar E-Mail is sent to all Indian Language mailing
lists<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Indic_Languages#Indic_Language_Wiki_Projects>
)

Dear Wikipedia Community,

We are planning to develop Dengue article on all Indian Languages.
Wikipedia Club Pune is organizing dedicated workshop on 16th December 2012.

We would like to invite you participate in Workshop (online or offline as
per your convenience)

Article of Dengue will be edited through collaborative editing session, and
it will be recorded later on as part of Spoken
Wikipedia.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_Languages>


   - Venue : PAI International Learning Solutions,Camp,Pune 01
   - Date : 16th December 2012 (Sunday)
   - Time : 10:30AM to 02:00PM



*FAQ : *

*1)Why Dengue Article : *

A: Dengue fever is common in this session, so it will be helpful to many
people.

*2)What about other diseases? *

A: We will be covering major diseases one by one in upcoming Sunday
workshops.

*3)What is Spoken Wikipedia for Indian Languages? *

The *WikiProject Spoken Indian Language Wikipedia* is a project undertaken
by Wikipedia Club Pune to give a voice to the Indian community and to
create a knowledge domain of information related to India and Indian
languages through audio recordings of the articles (in various native
languages).

P.S :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_Languages


*4)Why (Only) health related articles? *

As of now - Our first priority is Health related articles on Indian
Language Wikipedia. After recording articles, we are planning to circulate
these articles in underprivileged community.

*5)How I can help? *

Please add your name to Workshop page to help us.
*Register* :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Club_Pune/Spoken_Wikipedia_Workshops


Kindly do let us know if you have any doubts/queries or suggestions!


Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring!



Best Regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi,
User:AbhiSuryawanshi, <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AbhiSuryawanshi>
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 329, Issue 1

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Hi Ravi,

Thank you so much appreciating efforts.

I just want to clarify few things :


*1) Summit -  Conference : It is different - *

Summit skeleton is completely different as compared to conference.

Conference : One speaker and remaining audience. It is most of time - one
way communication. (except Q & A)

Summit : It is more interactive and two way communication, everyone gets
platform to share. (More like Panel discussion)
More details will be shared soon.

*2) Value dilation  : *

Repeating same, Conference comes up with different model and skeleton. So
it is going to 'add value' to existing outreach.
Additionally , our aim is to host Summit every year at same place for
continuity.


*3) Just event? *

We are going to introduce projects to follow for one year. So Summit is
just kick start ti those ambitious projects.
Reports of projects will be published in next year's Summit, and new
projects will selected as per requirement.


*4) Chapter involvement : *

Chapter is official body in India, and it will be there in future too. We
have full respect for Chapter - as they were pioneer to introduce
WikiConference India, as well as many projects. It is difficult to imagine
Wiki outreach in India without Chapter.

We believe, Chapter is there is to support community initiatives, and
Summit is also community initiative.
We have '*requested*' Chapter to nominate three Chapter representatives in
planning committee, we are hopeful about their response.

*5) Community involvement : *

Summit itself is being planned *by small community*, we do understand there
is exists a *bigger and wider community* with lot of credibility and
experience.

We would also like to request community members to be part of Planning
Committee to execute whole activity.
Do let us know if anyone want to volunteer.
*
6) Why Summit, What is Spoken Wikipedia and Why Pune? *:

P.S : City, Summit and Spoken
Wikipedia<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Summit_India/About_Us>
*
7) There are many flaws and mistakes : *

Instead of having bullet-proof shell, Summit idea is to have discussion to
develop Wikipedia in more dynamic and innovative way (like Spoken
Wikipedia).

If we 've hurt anyone in whole process, we would like to apologize
publicly. At same, we expect support by assuming good faith. For Summit
2014 planning, definitely we will improve and learn from our mistakes.

*P.S :* Everyone working for Summit is volunteer, *No one is getting
fellowship or grants to run Summit.* We are working professionals, who are *
donating* their time and energy to make Summit happen. It is by the
community, for the wider community event.

We believe Spoken Wikipedia through Summit is going to bring hope of light
in disabled persons life.


Keep Suggesting, Keep Inspiring! :)



Best Regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi,
User:AbhiSuryawanshi <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AbhiSuryawanshi>
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune




> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Ravishankar 
> To: Wikimedia India Community list 
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 20:57:43 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Summit India 2013 for Spoken
> Indian Language Wikipedia!
> Hi,
>
> I appreciate the effort by the Wikipedia club Pune.
>
> Please let me know if the idea for the summit was widely discussed in the
> community well in advance.
>
>  Somehow I feel that such an event may dilute the importance of
> Wikiconference India event and may even confuse audience which is what.
>
> It will be good to know if the chapter was consulted on any national level
> event.
>
> Right now, the whole planning of the event seems arbitrary.
>
> Ravi.
>
> P.S: Who created this story that Pune is the education hub of India? :)
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Ravishankar 
> To: Wikimedia India Community list 
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 21:02:05 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Most recent updates on the hiring of the
> Programme Director for the A2K programme
> Jadine,
>
> I appreciate the transparent methodology and engaging the community in
> hiring the programme director.
>
> Ravi
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Nitika Tandon 
> To: Wikimedia India Community list 
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 00:50:21 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki Academy in Goa in Dec
>
> On 06-Dec-2012, at 1:21 PM, Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *
> فريدريك نورونيا wrote:
>
> Dear Nitika, Is it possible to get in touch with others who have been
> contributing to the Goa pages in the past?
>
> Absolutely! We can invite Wikipedians from Goa 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Goan_Wikipedians>
> and members of WikiProject Goa<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GOA&g

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Summit India 2013 for Spoken Indian Language Wikipedia!

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

>
> *Is it so? I've been told that there are other cities which have more
> untapped potential wrt Wikimedia projects. Perhaps we can collaborate.*


Sure, we can collaborate :)

*What about foreign nationals contributing to Spoken Wikipedia [Indian
> languages and articles]?
> *


For 2014 Summit, definitely we will make sure we have support to give
scholarships to foreign nationals.

Thanks for suggestions.


Hope to see you soon in Pune on 12th and 13th January 2013 for Wikipedia
Summit India :-)



Best Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi,
User:AbhiSuryawanshi <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AbhiSuryawanshi>
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune


On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Abhishek, I have two questions:
>
> A:
>  *As Pune is central hub for students all across India, city is having
> students from various states and linguistic backgrounds. It will be easy to
> focus on maximum Indian Languages.
> *
> Is it so? I've been told that there are other cities which have more
> untapped potential wrt Wikimedia projects. Perhaps we can collaborate.
>
>
> * We are also having scholarships available for Indian citizens willing
> to participate in Summit to promote Spoken Wikipedia *
>
> What about foreign nationals contributing to Spoken Wikipedia [Indian
> languages and articles]?
>
> --Cheers,
> Srikanth.
>
>
>  On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Pradeep Nair  wrote:
>
>>  Hi Abhishek,
>>
>> Is the Program page updated? The page refers to Education and Gender Gap
>> whereas your email suggests that the Summit is about Spoken Wikipedia.
>>
>> Since there are only 9 more days for scholarships this information would
>> help.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>> Pradeep
>>
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
>>
>>  --
>> * From: * Abhishek Suryawanshi ;
>> * To: * ;
>> * Cc: * Wikipedia India ;
>> * Subject: * [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Summit India 2013 for Spoken
>> Indian Language Wikipedia!
>> * Sent: * Wed, Dec 5, 2012 11:16:30 PM
>>
>>   Hi,
>>
>> Thanks to everyone for suggestions over Indic/Indian Language Spoken
>> Wikipedia.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_Languages>
>>
>> To promote and support Spoken Wikipedia in Indian Languages, we are
>> hosting 'Wikipedia Summit 
>> India<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Summit_India>'
>> on 12th and 13th January 2013 at Suzlon, Pune.
>>
>> As Pune is central hub for students all across India, city is having
>> students from various states and linguistic backgrounds. It will be easy to
>> focus on maximum Indian Languages.
>>
>>  We are also having scholarships available for Indian citizens willing to
>> participate in Summit to promote Spoken Wikipedia -
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Summit_India/Scholarships
>>
>> Facebook RSVP Link for event :
>> https://www.facebook.com/events/493101294054194/
>>
>>
>> If you have suggestions, idea's - please do send on
>> WikipediaSummitIndia(at)gmail(dot)com.
>>
>>
>> Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring! :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Abhishek Suryawanshi,
>> User:AbhiSuryawanshi <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AbhiSuryawanshi>
>> On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
>>
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>
> --
> Regards,
> Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
>
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Summit India 2013 for Spoken Indian Language Wikipedia!

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Hi,

Thanks to everyone for suggestions over Indic/Indian Language Spoken
Wikipedia.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_Languages>

To promote and support Spoken Wikipedia in Indian Languages, we are hosting
'Wikipedia Summit
India<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Summit_India>'
on 12th and 13th January 2013 at Suzlon, Pune.

As Pune is central hub for students all across India, city is having
students from various states and linguistic backgrounds. It will be easy to
focus on maximum Indian Languages.

 We are also having scholarships available for Indian citizens willing to
participate in Summit to promote Spoken Wikipedia -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Summit_India/Scholarships

Facebook RSVP Link for event :
https://www.facebook.com/events/493101294054194/


If you have suggestions, idea's - please do send on
WikipediaSummitIndia(at)gmail(dot)com.


Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring! :)



Best Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi,
User:AbhiSuryawanshi <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AbhiSuryawanshi>
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Report : Wikipedia Workshop at U.S Consulate, Mumbai

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

On World Disability Day (3rd December 2012) special workshop was conducted
at U.S Consulate Mumbai.

Event started with talk by U.S Consul General Peter Haas on 'Internet
Freedom' and he explained how internet is working as catalyst throughout
globe.
Bishakha Datta, Trustee of Wikimedia Foundation spoke about Wikipedia in
21st century, and how it is useful to share knowledge.
Q & A was conducted after both talks.

Basic introduction to Wikipedia session was conducted. After session, there
was brainstorming session on How Spoken
Wikipedia<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_Languages>can
empower India and how it can be beneficial to disabled.

Many attendees agreed to volunteer to record developed articles on Indian
Language Wikipedia. Another discussion happened regarding having tie-up
with cell phone companies to circulate recorded articles.

Event concluded with presentation by U.S Embassy Adviser on 'Education and
US' followed by visa related questions and answers.

Times of India covered event on next day -
'Come 2013, Wikipedia will start talking'
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Come-2013-Wikipedia-will-start-talking/articleshow/17472682.cms

We are thankful to U.S Embassy, Bishakha Datta, Pai-ILS and everyone who
helped us to organize this workshop. There is possibility and scope for
such similar workshops in other U.S Consulates.


Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring!



Best Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi,
User:AbhiSuryawanshi <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AbhiSuryawanshi>



On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Wikipedia workshop is scheduled at U.S Consulate,Mumbai on 3rd December
> 2012 (Monday).
>
> Event is free and open to all, but due to Embassy Security protocols,
> advance registration is compulsory.
>
> http://apps.facebook.com/wiki-workshop/
>
> Registration is free. Successful registrations will be confirmed via
> email. Only confirmed participants can attend the workshop. Registration
> close at 3 p.m. on November 29.
>
> Further details will be provided upon confirmation of registration.
>
> In the Introductory Wikipedia Workshop participants will learn how to edit
> Wikipedia and how their knowledge (as non-typical contributors) is valuable.
>
> If you are interested in volunteering for same workshop, please do send us
> a mail.
>
>
> Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring!
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Abhishek Suryawanshi,
> User:AbhiSuryawanshi <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AbhiSuryawanshi>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot

[Abhishek Suryawanshi]

Regarding so called death and post-marten

I wont be right person to talk about CoEP or SSE, I am assigned to SNDT
Women's University,So I will stick to the work and responsibilities
assigned to me...
it is challenging to engage female editors as we have less women editors.
(IEP is still running in SNDT)

Instead of following classic approach of going to Classes and teaching
them*during lectures
*, I preferred to have fun workshops on Sunday's where they come together
for 3 hours and do "collaborative editing"

Even before India Education Program, I had conducted Wiki Editing
Workshops, and even without marks and prize students from workshops are
editing wikipedia regularly. And Whole world edits wiki not to get marks
but to learn and to have fun.
So for me it was ideal to follow fun workshops for my own assigned IEP
class.

And current status of my class is - Everyone started editing wikipedia, so
we have new women editors who never edited wikipedia before...regarding
articles - not great, quality is not good, still need to conduct more
workshops to improve quality of their work.

Good thing about class is - Class Teacher attends Community Meet-ups and is
aware of ongoing activities (sometimes more updated than myself).

Another good thins - Workshops are on Sundays in absence of teachers, so
they can ask doubts freely. and can have real fun.

still I have to work hard to improve "quality" of articles through
workshops, and hope so other classes CA's (SSE and CoEP) find such
alternative which is more effective.As of now, CoEP and SSE follows
classical *presentations during lectures* method.

We will resume workshops after SNDT exams. Will keep updating all of you
about progress at SNDT and IEP.

Thanks to those who supported :-)


Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring!


Best,
Abhishek Suryawanshi




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