Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMF Chapter's Grants
Thanks for setting up the page, Mike. Perhaps I should reword: > > Unfortunately, the Board is pretty busy at the moment organising the > > AGM and related matters, so we don't really have the time to organise > > anything on this by the deadline. However, if any--- _group of people_ in > > the community > > is interested and able to put together a proposal for a project, we > > have some time set aside next Tuesday to consider it. On Mar 6, 10:09 pm, Michael Peel wrote: > Can I disagree with Andrew's email? This sort of thing's best done > collaboratively, rather than coming from a single person, and that's > what a wiki's best at. > > I've just set up a proposals page > at:http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Projects/Proposals > Please could people go there to submit ideas, flesh them out and > volunteer for things that look interesting? There's a rough template > on there for how a proposal should probably look, but there's no > formal process involved. If you can't think of anything, then there's > plenty of ideas athttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Projects/Ideas. > > Mike > > On 3 Mar 2009, at 21:03, AndrewRT wrote: > > > > > On Feb 18, 9:33 am, Michael Peel wrote: > >> Hi all, > > >> The WMF has just announced grants for chapters: "If a chapter has > >> work it wants to get done in the furtherance of our overall mission > >> and goals during the fiscal year 2009-2010 (July 1, 2009 -June 30, > >> 2010), but it cannot do it without financial support, the Wikimedia > >> Foundation is inviting that chapter to ask the Wikimedia Foundation > >> for funding." > > >>http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/WMF_grants > > >> The deadline for this is 30 March. The value of the grant has to be > > >> 500 USD. > > >> Does anyone have any projects in mind that could benefit from such a > >> grant? > > >> Mike > > > Unfortunately, the Board is pretty busy at the moment organising the > > AGM and related matters, so we don't really have the time to organise > > anything on this by the deadline. However, if anyone in the community > > is interested and able to put together a proposal for a project, we > > have some time set aside next Tuesday to consider it. > > > All we need is a brief summary covering things like: > > > - the benefits of the project > > - the funding requirements > > - any other sources of funding > > - the workload requirements (and who will be fulfilling this!) > > - how the project will be organised > > - whether its been done in the past and experiences gained > > > Please send any proposals to secret...@wikimedia.org.uk > > > Thanks! > > > Regards, > > > ___ > > Wikimedia UK mailing list > > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > >http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > > WMUK:http://uk.wikimedia.org > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.orghttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK:http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMF Chapter's Grants
Can I disagree with Andrew's email? This sort of thing's best done collaboratively, rather than coming from a single person, and that's what a wiki's best at. I've just set up a proposals page at: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Projects/Proposals Please could people go there to submit ideas, flesh them out and volunteer for things that look interesting? There's a rough template on there for how a proposal should probably look, but there's no formal process involved. If you can't think of anything, then there's plenty of ideas at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Projects/Ideas . Mike On 3 Mar 2009, at 21:03, AndrewRT wrote: > On Feb 18, 9:33 am, Michael Peel wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> The WMF has just announced grants for chapters: "If a chapter has >> work it wants to get done in the furtherance of our overall mission >> and goals during the fiscal year 2009-2010 (July 1, 2009 -June 30, >> 2010), but it cannot do it without financial support, the Wikimedia >> Foundation is inviting that chapter to ask the Wikimedia Foundation >> for funding." >> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/WMF_grants >> >> The deadline for this is 30 March. The value of the grant has to be > >> 500 USD. >> >> Does anyone have any projects in mind that could benefit from such a >> grant? >> >> Mike > > Unfortunately, the Board is pretty busy at the moment organising the > AGM and related matters, so we don't really have the time to organise > anything on this by the deadline. However, if anyone in the community > is interested and able to put together a proposal for a project, we > have some time set aside next Tuesday to consider it. > > All we need is a brief summary covering things like: > > - the benefits of the project > - the funding requirements > - any other sources of funding > - the workload requirements (and who will be fulfilling this!) > - how the project will be organised > - whether its been done in the past and experiences gained > > Please send any proposals to secret...@wikimedia.org.uk > > Thanks! > > Regards, > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMF Chapter's Grants
On Feb 18, 9:33 am, Michael Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > The WMF has just announced grants for chapters: "If a chapter has > work it wants to get done in the furtherance of our overall mission > and goals during the fiscal year 2009-2010 (July 1, 2009 -June 30, > 2010), but it cannot do it without financial support, the Wikimedia > Foundation is inviting that chapter to ask the Wikimedia Foundation > for funding." > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/WMF_grants > > The deadline for this is 30 March. The value of the grant has to be > > 500 USD. > > Does anyone have any projects in mind that could benefit from such a > grant? > > Mike Unfortunately, the Board is pretty busy at the moment organising the AGM and related matters, so we don't really have the time to organise anything on this by the deadline. However, if anyone in the community is interested and able to put together a proposal for a project, we have some time set aside next Tuesday to consider it. All we need is a brief summary covering things like: - the benefits of the project - the funding requirements - any other sources of funding - the workload requirements (and who will be fulfilling this!) - how the project will be organised - whether its been done in the past and experiences gained Please send any proposals to secret...@wikimedia.org.uk Thanks! Regards, ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMF Chapter's Grants
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Michael Peel wrote: > If you're interested in going to schools, then you may find that the > schools are willing to cover the travel costs etc. in exchange for a > good educational session. > > Something else to factor in, though, is the development of the > session content and any necessary materials. Getting the kids editing themselves might be a good thing. Interactive whiteboards are becoming pretty standard in schools nowadays. I don't think a laptop is necessary. > > Also, would the wikimedians going be paid for their time, or would > they have to volunteer it? If you pay for their time, then you tend > to get a lot more people interested in doing a session... I think many Wikimedians would be willing to do it for free. Paying people to do it is a bit of a luxury, that cannot be afforded yet don't you think? -- http://theresaknott.googlepages.com/home http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Theresa_knott ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMF Chapter's Grants
2009/2/18 Michael Peel : > If you're interested in going to schools, then you may find that the > schools are willing to cover the travel costs etc. in exchange for a > good educational session. Schools have very limited funds, I think they would be far more interested in having us visit if we paid for it ourselves. > Something else to factor in, though, is the development of the > session content and any necessary materials. That can of course be > done on a volunteer basis, but it all depends on how ambitious the > sessions are, and whether e.g. a laptop and/or a projector needs to > be purchased (although nowadays most schools can provide those, I > guess). I think pretty much all schools can supply the necessary hardware. Putting together visual aids and whatever else is required can probably be done by volunteers. > Also, would the wikimedians going be paid for their time, or would > they have to volunteer it? If you pay for their time, then you tend > to get a lot more people interested in doing a session... If we have the money, there is no reason we can't pay people, but I would expect we can get enough volunteers. We could probably throw in lunch... ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMF Chapter's Grants
If you're interested in going to schools, then you may find that the schools are willing to cover the travel costs etc. in exchange for a good educational session. Something else to factor in, though, is the development of the session content and any necessary materials. That can of course be done on a volunteer basis, but it all depends on how ambitious the sessions are, and whether e.g. a laptop and/or a projector needs to be purchased (although nowadays most schools can provide those, I guess). Also, would the wikimedians going be paid for their time, or would they have to volunteer it? If you pay for their time, then you tend to get a lot more people interested in doing a session... Mike On 18 Feb 2009, at 15:07, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/2/18 Theresa Knott : >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Thomas Dalton >> wrote: >> The only real cost for >>> that is travel - picking some numbers out of thin air, if we say we >>> want visit 5 schools, with a team of 3 going to each school, and it >>> costs £100 per person to get there, that comes to £1500, a >>> reasonable >>> amount to ask for. >> >> Well that figure is OTT. A more reasonable amount would be 1 at 100 >> and two local wikipedians at much less. For example an offpeak travel >> card in london costs 7 odd quid. So by choosing Londoners to visit >> the >> London schools costs would be cut considerably. I'm pretty sure the >> same could be said for other towns. > > That depends on to who we get to volunteer. I guess we can choose the > initial schools according to where we have volunteers, and probably > halve the cost per school. Later schools may end up costing more, > since we don't want to concentrate too much on schools in just a few > areas. > >> Of course 5 schools is paltry. Upping it to 15 would easily up the >> numbers to a reasonable amount. > > I was thinking 5 as a starting point to see how it goes. For all we > know it might not work and it's all a waste of time and money (I think > that's unlikely, but really I can only guess). We'll know either way > after the first 5. Perhaps we should see if we can get £750 for the > first 5 with the option of another £1500 for 10 more if they go well. > After that, we'll hopefully have out own funds to continue (and we > could acquire sponsorship from Becta or similar - if we have a few > schools willing to say how brilliant we were, it shouldn't be > difficult to get funding). > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMF Chapter's Grants
2009/2/18 Theresa Knott : > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: > The only real cost for >> that is travel - picking some numbers out of thin air, if we say we >> want visit 5 schools, with a team of 3 going to each school, and it >> costs £100 per person to get there, that comes to £1500, a reasonable >> amount to ask for. > > Well that figure is OTT. A more reasonable amount would be 1 at 100 > and two local wikipedians at much less. For example an offpeak travel > card in london costs 7 odd quid. So by choosing Londoners to visit the > London schools costs would be cut considerably. I'm pretty sure the > same could be said for other towns. That depends on to who we get to volunteer. I guess we can choose the initial schools according to where we have volunteers, and probably halve the cost per school. Later schools may end up costing more, since we don't want to concentrate too much on schools in just a few areas. > Of course 5 schools is paltry. Upping it to 15 would easily up the > numbers to a reasonable amount. I was thinking 5 as a starting point to see how it goes. For all we know it might not work and it's all a waste of time and money (I think that's unlikely, but really I can only guess). We'll know either way after the first 5. Perhaps we should see if we can get £750 for the first 5 with the option of another £1500 for 10 more if they go well. After that, we'll hopefully have out own funds to continue (and we could acquire sponsorship from Becta or similar - if we have a few schools willing to say how brilliant we were, it shouldn't be difficult to get funding). ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMF Chapter's Grants
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: > The only real cost for > > that is travel - picking some numbers out of thin air, if we say we > > want visit 5 schools, with a team of 3 going to each school, and it > > costs £100 per person to get there, that comes to £1500, a reasonable > > amount to ask for. > > Well that figure is OTT. A more reasonable amount would be 1 at 100 > and two local wikipedians at much less. For example an offpeak travel > card in london costs 7 odd quid. So by choosing Londoners to visit the > London schools costs would be cut considerably. I'm pretty sure the > same could be said for other towns. > > Of course 5 schools is paltry. Upping it to 15 would easily up the > numbers to a reasonable amount. > > Theresa I could easily cover cardiff. _ Make a mini you and download it into Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354029/direct/01/___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMF Chapter's Grants
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: The only real cost for > that is travel - picking some numbers out of thin air, if we say we > want visit 5 schools, with a team of 3 going to each school, and it > costs £100 per person to get there, that comes to £1500, a reasonable > amount to ask for. Well that figure is OTT. A more reasonable amount would be 1 at 100 and two local wikipedians at much less. For example an offpeak travel card in london costs 7 odd quid. So by choosing Londoners to visit the London schools costs would be cut considerably. I'm pretty sure the same could be said for other towns. Of course 5 schools is paltry. Upping it to 15 would easily up the numbers to a reasonable amount. Theresa -- http://theresaknott.googlepages.com/home http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Theresa_knott ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMF Chapter's Grants
2009/2/18 Michael Peel : > Hi all, > > The WMF has just announced grants for chapters: "If a chapter has > work it wants to get done in the furtherance of our overall mission > and goals during the fiscal year 2009-2010 (July 1, 2009 -June 30, > 2010), but it cannot do it without financial support, the Wikimedia > Foundation is inviting that chapter to ask the Wikimedia Foundation > for funding." > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/WMF_grants > > The deadline for this is 30 March. The value of the grant has to be > > 500 USD. > > Does anyone have any projects in mind that could benefit from such a > grant? Pretty much everyone on our list of ideas, I guess... We should choose something specific, though! Going into schools to promote Wikipedia and show how to use it (and the other projects, I guess) might be a good place to start (we could try and get journalists to turn up too so we can spread the word of our existence). The only real cost for that is travel - picking some numbers out of thin air, if we say we want visit 5 schools, with a team of 3 going to each school, and it costs £100 per person to get there, that comes to £1500, a reasonable amount to ask for. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
[Wikimediauk-l] WMF Chapter's Grants
Hi all, The WMF has just announced grants for chapters: "If a chapter has work it wants to get done in the furtherance of our overall mission and goals during the fiscal year 2009-2010 (July 1, 2009 -June 30, 2010), but it cannot do it without financial support, the Wikimedia Foundation is inviting that chapter to ask the Wikimedia Foundation for funding." http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/WMF_grants The deadline for this is 30 March. The value of the grant has to be > 500 USD. Does anyone have any projects in mind that could benefit from such a grant? Mike ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
