Re: [Wikitech-l] I'd love to contribue. Can anyone help me get started?

Hello Seattleite! There are some Wikimedians, many with technology backrounds, who meet in the Seattle area. Please join our mailing list: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-cascadia I think that your existing skill set might fit well with WMF's interests in mobile apps and

Re: [Wikitech-l] 12-May-2016 CREDIT, going back to Hangouts on Air/YouTube

FYI, this week's presentations, according to the Etherpad, are: * *Derk-Jan Hartman:* Video.js progress * *Dmitry Brant*: Wikidata infoboxes in Android app * *Joaquin Hernandez*: Vicky chat bot * *Baha*: mobile printing for offline reading * *Monte*: "smart random" content service endpoint *

Re: [Wikitech-l] JetBrains licenses for Volunteers and Staff

rper is a great > product and it is part of the license, but I am not sure we have any .net > code (I think we used to run bits of mono code somewhere, but that was a > while ago). Have you submitted any patches? In what languages? > > Thanks! > On May 10, 2016 08:48, "Pine W" <wi

Re: [Wikitech-l] JetBrains licenses for Volunteers and Staff

Hi Yuri, ReSharper interests me. This email refers to license upgrades. What is involved in initially qualifying for a license? Thanks, Pine On Apr 18, 2016 09:44, "Yuri Astrakhan" wrote: > PhpStorm, InteliJ IDEA, Resharper and other JetBrain users, we just >

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Fall 2015 Tool Labs user survey data published

Sounds good. Thank you. Pine Pine On May 5, 2016 08:19, "Bryan Davis" <bd...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Bryan, > > > > Thanks for the report. With this information in han

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Fall 2015 Tool Labs user survey data published

Hi Bryan, Thanks for the report. With this information in hand, what follow up is planned? Pine On May 4, 2016 19:01, "Bryan Davis" wrote: > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 7:57 PM, Bryan Davis wrote: > > [0]:

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to upcoming office hours with interim ED

Forwarding. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: "Katherine Maher" Date: May 4, 2016 17:47 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to upcoming office hours with interim ED To: , , <

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Videos from Jerusalem Hackathon & WikiArabia

Forwarding Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: "Brill Lyle" Date: Apr 28, 2016 11:14 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Videos from Jerusalem Hackathon & WikiArabia To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" Cc: In case you haven't seen these, the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Technical advice on expert review?

Hi Anthony, Thanks for this initiative! As someone who deals with budget tables, I am very supportive of improving features for table editing. Have you tried editing tables in VE? You might also consider using a spreadsheet like Google Sheets, Microsoft Excel, or (offline) LibreOffice Calc.

[Wikitech-l] How can someone get code reviews from the Wikidata dev team?

A concise illustration from Lydia Pintscher that shows an innovative way to notify the Wikidata dev team that patches are ready for review: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:How_to_get_Wikidata_code_review_done.jpg Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] productivity of mediawiki developers

Niklas puts it well. Analogously, in sports like baseball there are lots of statistics about players, coaches, teams, divisions, and leagues. Awards are given based strictly on quantities, as well as more subjectively on qualities for recognitions such as Rookie of the Year and Most Valuable

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feelings

I like that idea, Ori. Jonathan, what do you think about testing this concept in the Teahouse, as well as wikitext talk pages and Flow talk pages? Pine On Apr 2, 2016 18:38, "Ori Livneh" wrote: > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Legoktm > wrote:

Re: [Wikitech-l] productivity of mediawiki developers

Yeah. It would be interesting to have multiple measures of "productivity" for technical contributors, including code review. Quim: is this something that's within Technical Collaboration's scope? If not, perhaps it's something that I could work on developing later this year. Pine On Sat, Apr 2,

Re: [Wikitech-l] productivity of mediawiki developers

Perhaps some Working Wikipedian and Tireless Contributor barnstars are appropriate for that group! Pine On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 12:06 PM, rupert THURNER wrote: > hi, > > is there a statistics about mediawiki developer productivity? i just > fell over a couple of pages

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feelings

I can't tell if this is intended to be an April 1st joke or if it's serious. In any case, I could see this being an interesting option for talk pages, particularly where Flow is enabled. Pine On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Legoktm wrote: > Hi, > > It's well known

[Wikitech-l] Internship opening: product management at WMDE

Forwarding info about an opportunity to intern in product management with Wikidata and the good people at Wikimedia Deutschland. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: "Lydia Pintscher" Date: Mar 24, 2016 07:24 Subject: [Wikidata] internship opening:

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [opensource-107] Seattle to host the 2016 OpenStreetMap State of the Map US Conference

(Cross-posting) For Wikimedia folks who are interested in possible collaborations with OSM, now seems like a good time to start thinking about possible presentations. Staff from the Wikimedia Foundation, and/or Wikimedia volunteers from around the US outside of the Seattle area, may want to

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Inspire Campaign on content curation & review launches today!

Forwarding the campaign announcement, and ideas from Aaron Halfaker. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: "Aaron Halfaker" Date: Feb 29, 2016 16:00 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Inspire Campaign on content curation & review launches today! To: "Chris

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Fwd: February 2016 Lightning Talks

forward notes for Lightning Talk speakers. > > [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lightning_Talks#February_2016 > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Boldly forwarding* in case others would like to view or present a >> lightning talk.

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wiki-research-l] ReplayEdits tool gets a shout-out in NYT

Cool. Forwarding this email. Pine On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > Yesterday, 2013 IEG grantee Jeph Paul started seeing 1000s of hits on his > (grant-funded, volunteer-maintained) ReplayEdits tool which visually > replays edit histories of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Relations Weekly Summary

the creation of these goals in WMF Q4 and in the WMF 16-17 Annual Plan. Thanks, Pine On Feb 2, 2016 6:41 AM, "Rob Lanphier" <ro...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Is there, or will there b

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please Welcome Guillaume Lederrey to the WMF

Sounds like a good hire. Welcome! Pine On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Alangi Derick wrote: > Welcome Guillaume Lederrey to WMF. > Regards > Alangi Derick Ndimnain > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:51 PM, Tomasz Finc wrote: > > I am pleased to

Re: [Wikitech-l] VisualEditor deployment to 1000+ users: who wants the feedback?

I think the Editing team would be interested in this! Pinging James Forrester. I am glad to see the interest in tables. Table editing is much easier in VE than in wikitext and I'd love to see additional table editing functionality in VE, including the ability to import tables from spreadsheet

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Relations Weekly Summary

Hi Quim, Is there, or will there be, a page somewhere that describes the outcomes of the Developer Summit? Thanks! Pine On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:19 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > The Winter break took longer than expected. Busy times! > > You can help develop the next summary. > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Community Wishlist Survey: Status report #1

Thanks Danny, it's nice to see these initiatives being analyzed and options for them being considered actively. Pine On Jan 20, 2016 5:37 PM, "Danny Horn" wrote: > Hi everyone, > > We've posted the Community Tech team's first status report on our progress > with the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Meeting scribes for WMF meetings

Just want to note that I believe that Community Resources and L use interns for this purpose. You can probably contact Siko or Rosemary to learn more. Pine On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > Hi folks, > > One thing we'd love to get better at is taking

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Thank yous and video recordings for the Wikipedia 15 joint celebrations (SF, NYC, and Seattle)

Forwarding video links (: -- Forwarded message -- From: Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> Date: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 6:43 PM Subject: Thank yous and video recordings for the Wikipedia 15 joint celebrations (SF, NYC, and Seattle) To: Video links to Youtube (Commons u

Re: [Wikitech-l] New tutorial for interactive graphics on Wiki

reat! now, I think it should be marked for translation. > > On 31 December 2015 at 08:38, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > The tutorial looks nice! I will take a look when I am less distracted by > > finance reports. Thank you for working on this. > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] New tutorial for interactive graphics on Wiki

The tutorial looks nice! I will take a look when I am less distracted by finance reports. Thank you for working on this. Pine On Dec 30, 2015 22:37, "Yuri Astrakhan" wrote: > I just finished writing a tutorial on how to build interactive Vega graphs > for Wikipedia.

Re: [Wikitech-l] New tutorial for interactive graphics on Wiki

Excellent. Can I create a full-detail 3D model of the Millennium Falcon? (: Pine On Dec 30, 2015 22:37, "Yuri Astrakhan" wrote: > I just finished writing a tutorial on how to build interactive Vega graphs > for Wikipedia. And yes, we could build video games this way

Re: [Wikitech-l] VisualEditor support for table copy-and-paste from Word

Following up on this thread: 1. I'm continuing to find that VE's table editor is a significant improvement over the Wikitext editor for typical tasks. I'm looking forward to the day when I can copy and paste formatted spreadsheet data from places like Google Sheets, ODS, and Excel into VE and

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Community Wishlist Survey: Top 10 wishes!

Thank you Danny & Company! Pine On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Toby Negrin wrote: > No one asked for 10 more wishes? :) > > Thanks Danny and the Community Tech team. This is a great model for working > with our Communities. > > -Toby > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:18

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

Hey Pine, > > Responses in-line. > > On 9 December 2015 at 22:14, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, just checking to see if CAPTCHA improvements are likely anytime in > the > > near future. I notice that > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interactive graphs & charts are now live

Nice graphs (: On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > The tag has just been upgraded to Vega 2.0, adding interactivity > support. See live examples here > . > > Vega 1.0 is still available, but it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Appreciation thread, 2015

I could name a lot of individuals. I'll name these in particular: Peaceray, Bluerasberry, Siko, Rory, and the now-departed Gayle and Philippe. I'm grateful for them. Pine On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 12:25 AM, Legoktm wrote: > Hi, > > It's been a while since we had one

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

Hi, just checking to see if CAPTCHA improvements are likely anytime in the near future. I notice that https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/225/ shows nothing under "Awaiting code review". Is anyone working on this? If not, what kind of nudge would be necessary to get some resources

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation IEG program will fund 14 community-led projects

Forwarding good news for a wide variety of domains including GLAM, research, education, maps, language tools, outreach, and more. Pine On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Marti Johnson wrote: > Hi all, > > In the latest round of Individual Engagement Grants >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Introducing WikiToLearn to developers

Anna would be interested, and/or staff from WMF Education like Tighe or Anna. Pine On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Riccardo Iaconelli <ricca...@kde.org> wrote: > On Friday, November 27, 2015 04:15:09 PM Pine W wrote: > > This sounds like a wonderful project for the Wikimedia uni

Re: [Wikitech-l] Peer-to-peer sharing of the content of Wikipedia through WebRTC

Thanks for this initiative. I think that concerns at the moment would be in the domains of privacy, security, lack of WMF analytics intstrumentation, and WMF fundraising limitations. That said, looking in the longer term, a number of us in the community are interested in decreasing our

[Wikitech-l] Design thinking at IBM

Interesting read: http://www.seattletimes.com/business/ibms-design-centered-strategy-to-set-free-the-squares/ Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Introducing WikiToLearn to developers

This sounds like a wonderful project for the Wikimedia universe. It also aligns with the interests of the education interests of multiple US affiliates. Would you be able to set up a Hangout meeting with some of us (me and whoever else is interested) during the next few weeks? I wouls like to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please welcome Joe Matazzoni as Product Manager, Collaboration

My impression is that Lila has taken an interest in Flow, partially influenced by the discussions on her talk page on Meta. I do hope that Joe will have the time for a careful review of the situation with Flow so that we can get some kind of resolution and then move on to other matters for

[Wikitech-l] Because visualizations are cool

These resources may give ideas to people who create project proposals or any of several kinds of reports. http://www.datavizcatalogue.com/index.html http://survey.timeviz.net/ Have fun exploring, Pine P.S. In the multimedia domain, I'd like to have the ability to add interactive

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please welcome Joe Matazzoni as Product Manager, Collaboration

Good, more people with video experience and from WSJ. (: I personally think we should look into poaching more talent from WSJ. I like their infographics, and we seem to have a very capable new hire in Comms who also worked for WSJ. Welcome, Joe. Pine On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:00 PM, James

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update about on-going work on Notifications, especially cross-wiki notifications

The discussion about Flow that I referened is currently happening on Lila's talk page on Meta. Would you like to join the conversation there? The discussion there might get more staff attention than Wikimedia-l. (I hear a number of staff avoid Wikimedia-l because they find the tone to be hostile

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Update about on-going work on Notifications, especially cross-wiki notifications

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Brian Wolff <bawo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sunday, November 15, 2015, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > The discussion about Flothat I referened is currently happening on > Lila's > > > talk page on Meta. Would you l

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Update about on-going work on Notifications, especially cross-wiki notifications

wrote: > On Sunday, November 15, 2015, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The discussion about Flothat I referened is currently happening on Lila's > > talk page on Meta. Would you like to join the conversation there? The > > discussion there might get more staff at

[Wikitech-l] WIkigenes tools

Just noticed that Wikigenes has a couple of interesting tools. There's a way for editors to highlight the contributions in an article that were made by specific users, and also a way to rate edits on a scale of 0 to 4. I'm unsure how valuable the scale would be in light of Aaron's ongoing work

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update about on-going work on Notifications, especially cross-wiki notifications

Agreed. If I had a binary choice between investing in Echo and investing in Flow, I would be inclined to choose Echo. Pine On Nov 14, 2015 7:08 AM, "Derk-Jan Hartman" wrote: > Thank goodness. Finally we might be able to start fully building out the > promise of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update about on-going work on Notifications, especially cross-wiki notifications

answered, seems questionable to me when investing in a well-accepted and widely-used tool (Echo) is an alternative. Pine On Nov 14, 2015 9:11 PM, "MZMcBride" <z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote: > Pine W wrote: > >Agreed. If I had a binary choice between investing in Echo and inve

Re: [Wikitech-l] Summit proposal: Turning the Table of Contents into a discrete object

I lean in favor of this concept. Can someone from Performance comment in Phabricator? Thanks! Pine On Nov 9, 2015 7:26 PM, "Isarra Yos" wrote: > Hi! I would like to turn the mw ToC into a discrete object within the > codebase. Write a ToC class and pull all the random

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deepcat Gadget: intersection and subcategory search on Wikipedia and Commons

Kasis, this sounds very interesting! Cross-posting to the Discovery mailing list. Pine On Nov 3, 2015 8:39 AM, "Kasia Odrozek" wrote: > Hello all, > > I am happy to announce that the Software-Development Team at WMDE (TCB) > developed the so called “Deepcat” gadget

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fiscal Year Q2 Engineering goals

Thanks Toby. Some of the goals for Research and Design Research particularly interest me. Can you (or someone in Product and Engineering) clarify what is happening with Flow? I thought that development status had changed to maintenance only, but then I heard otherwise off-list, and now I see

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fiscal Year Q2 Engineering goals

Hi Tilman, After rereading that email from September, I'm still a little hazy on what the plan is. I see that "Starting in October, Flow will not be in active development". But rollout of Flow will continue on an opt-in basis, I see. I'm hazy on what is happening with regard to the ex-Flow

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata descriptions to show on mobile web Wikipedias

Request: for non-urgent, potentially high-impact changes, can notices to village pumps and mailing lists go out at least 3 weeks in advance to give the community opportunity to prepare and/or comment? I am not anticipating that we'll get meaningfully more mobile Web vandalism, but announcing

Re: [Wikitech-l] XSS warning for an image download

ikimedia.org: WMF-Last-Access=25-Oct-2015; domain=upload.wikimedia.org; path=/; HttpOnly; Secure TypeError: self.urlTooltipLabel is undefined *Pine* On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Brian Wolff <bawo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 10/24/15, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > &g

[Wikitech-l] XSS warning for an image download

When I right-click on the image download link for File:Commodore_Grace_M._Hopper,_USN_(covered).jpg the download I get is only 269 bytes and it contains a 404 error in plaintext even though it's a jpg file. When I click on the image preview that's 480x600 pixels, I get an XSS warning from

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Relations Weekly Summary

Hi Quim, I'm glad to see the tasks about 3D files in there. Open license 3D files were a need mentioned at WCONUSA for GLAMs. There has been a lot of discussion recently about the Education Exension's problems. Any chance of getting Developer Relations resources in making that code at least

Re: [Wikitech-l] [discovery] WikiConference USA

Yes, Andrew's talk was quite good. He and I recorded video at some of the other sessions, including a SWOT analysis and visioning exercise regarding Wikipedia culture, and a session about video on Wikipedia. Some of the videos (Andrew's) came out better than others (mine) due to hardware issues

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tools repository

I like the idea of a tools index. Bob Cummings was looking for some GLAM tools that IIRC sounded perfectly reasonable but no one seems to know if we have them. Pine On Oct 13, 2015 6:52 PM, "Quim Gil" wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Ricordisamoa < >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Technical expertise needed for Individual Engagement Grant proposals!

Thanks Siko. Also, @Brian: the last I heard is that the Committee would like more members with software development experience. If that sounds like something you would want to do, I think that the committee coordinators or Marti would like to hear from you about joining IEGCom for the next round

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Relations Weekly Summary

Thanks Quim, I like the summary. Code review is a particular interest of mine and I'm glad to see some stats mentioned here. Pine On Oct 8, 2015 3:03 AM, "Quim Gil" wrote: > We are discussing the possibility of maintaining a weekly summary of news > related to the areas

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Updates on WMF product leadership

Thank you for the announcement. Congrats to Wes. Pine On Oct 8, 2015 8:34 PM, "Lila Tretikov" wrote: > All, > > I want to share an update about the WMF’s product leadership. As of today, > Wes Moran has stepped into the role of Vice President of Product. In this > role,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Technical expertise needed for Individual Engagement Grant proposals!

, if the goal is remotely in scope of strategic goals, and if > the author said anything outright ridiculous in the proposal. > > Most of them don't even have a definition of a minimum viable product > that you could use to determine if the grantee actually even completed > the proposal as p

Re: [Wikitech-l] Technical expertise needed for Individual Engagement Grant proposals!

Disclaimer: I was a founding member of IEGCom, for a time I was one of its coordinators, and I currently have a grant proposal for this round of IEGs. Comment: if you think that a proposal needs further development before funding it, please say so on that proposal's talk page. When I was on the

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is the status of Cirrus Search development?

Hi, I have a hunch that discussions about search moved to the Discovery mailing list: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery Pine On Oct 3, 2015 9:28 PM, "billinghurst" wrote: > For a while Cirrus Search was the "bee's knees"[1] around here, and we

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mentors and projects needed for Outreachy round 11

argument for why its important, the more likely they are > going to say yes. > > That said, gsoc/opw usually doesn't reflect Wikimedia community > priorities all that much (imo). > > -- > -bawolff > > On 9/28/15, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Quim, >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?

I would like to see a beautiful skin that looks like it was made in 2015! On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Isarra Yos wrote: > Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to make a > MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mentors and projects needed for Outreachy round 11

Hi Quim, For projects that don't move forward in Outreachy for any reason, is there a way of suggesting that the particularly useful open projects get WMF dev time next quarter? It would be nice if there is a way to incorporate community priorities into quarterly department goal setting. Pine On

[Wikitech-l] Report on last year's Freenode security breach

I just now see that there was a report published about last year's security breach on Freenode. The report, written by NCC Group’s Cyber Defence Operations team, may be of interest to infrastructure security and tech ops people:

[Wikitech-l] Upcoming database purge on Freenode

Freenode occasionally purges its databases of "expired nicks, channels and accounts". If you have a nick, channel or account that you want to keep and haven't used recently, now is a good time to do so. See https://blog.freenode.net/2015/09/services-database-purge/ for more info. Please send any

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tools for dealing with citations of withdrawn academic journal articles

Ryan, can we get an update about when https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Community_Tech_team/Community_Wishlist_Survey will be launched? Thanks! Pine On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkald...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmai

Re: [Wikitech-l] Link: useful article on in-person events

That is a nice article. In the Wikiverse, conferences are good venues for Q, structured dialogue, building and maintenance personal connections, and brainstorming. Excluded from this picture is the ordination of community policy, but brainstorming, drafting, and creating policy proposals are all

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Engineering] September Lightning Talks

to put Flow into maintenance. I'd like to give priority to > engineering teams who can showcase their work. Also, I think any > discussion on Flow deserves more than 10 minutes. > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Would it be p

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Engineering] September Lightning Talks

Would it be possible to request a lightning talk about the reasoning behind the decision to put Flow into maintenance mode, and about the plans for the Collaboration team's work post-Flow? Pine On Sep 9, 2015 11:36 AM, "Rachel Farrand" wrote: > lightning talks

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

ll someone be triaging and fixing new bugs as they come in (And > again, how does the answer vary depending on the seriousness of the > bug). > *Is the team planning to come back to Flow at a later date in a > serious way, or is this the end of active development for the > foreseeab

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

Thanks for the expanded update. I'm a big fan of Echo and am happy to hear that global notifications are coming. If you'll be at WikiConference USA, I'd appreciate a chance to talk with you there in person, and others might as well! Pine On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Danny Horn

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

Re-reading the original email, it sounds to me like Flow is being put into maintenance mode, not killed. It also sounds to me like the resources that were being invested in Flow are going to be redirected to "the curation, collaboration, and admin processes that take place on a variety of pages.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

Regarding specific resource-level commitments: I've always had a hard time with getting project-level financial data from WMF. I'm still waiting for replies to questions that I asked about the Annual Plan a couple of months ago. I do think that information like that should be public, and it would

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

the easier cases first. I'm with you in looking forward to hearing plans for more details. (Maybe there can be a live discussion about this at WikiConference USA, with remote participation as an option?) Pine On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:25 AM, Brian Wolff <bawo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 9/4

Re: [Wikitech-l] QA: Holding our code to better standards.

I just want to say that I appreciate this overview. Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

The decision to stop Flow development could have been a matter of prioritizing resources, and a decision may have been made that many of the resources that would be invested in improving Flow can now be better used elsewhere. I am reluctant to throw stones about Flow. Pine

[Wikitech-l] Delays in loading pages on Wikimedia sites

Yesterday and today, I've experienced a number of delays in getting pages to load on Wikimedia sites. My connectivity to other websites is normal, so I think something may be going on internally with Wikimedia connectivity. I recall seeing discussions during Mexico Wikimania about testing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Delays in loading pages on Wikimedia sites

OK, thanks. Pine On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Keegan Peterzell <kpeterz...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Yesterday and today, I've experienced a number of delays in getting pages > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

Thanks for the update. Discussion is taking place on Wikimedia-l. Pine On Sep 1, 2015 2:27 PM, "Danny Horn" wrote: > For a while now, the Collaboration team has been working on Flow, the > structured discussion system. I want to let you know about some changes in > that

Re: [Wikitech-l] What does "Director of Architecture" mean anyway?

Welcome back. It's good to hear of your recovery. Pine On Sep 1, 2015 8:29 PM, "Rob Lanphier" wrote: > Hi everyone, > > It's been a while since I've been involved here, and I've got a pretty good > excuse. I'm going to avoid going into too much detail, but in short, I was

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

list, suggest that there could be higher priority placed on CAPTCHA improvements. I will discuss this with Luis on his talk page. Thanks, Pine On Aug 18, 2015 11:43 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: what's happening

Re: [Wikitech-l] Geohack tools

), star and sattelite positions in the sky, socioeconomic data maps, financial statistics, etc? Thanks, Pine On Aug 13, 2015 2:22 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: It's great to hear that work is progressing on this. I'd like to see more interactive features on pages, for example live air

Re: [Wikitech-l] Geohack tools

(or in the functioning of our search service) I recommend subscribing to https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-search On 18 August 2015 at 06:09, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Toby, is there any chance that the Reading team (or maybe Multimedia or Discovery?) will incorporate more

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tools for dealing with citations of withdrawn academic journal articles

Tech team has its own mailing list now btw (https://groups.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/forum/#!forum/community-tech ). On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:42 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any easy way to find all of citations of specified academic articles on Wikipedias in all

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tools for dealing with citations of withdrawn academic journal articles

a good project for Community Tech and I could propose that in Phabricator as well if there's a good place to do so. Thanks, Pine On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the info

[Wikitech-l] Tools for dealing with citations of withdrawn academic journal articles

Is there any easy way to find all of citations of specified academic articles on Wikipedias in all languages, and the text that is supported by those references, so that the citations of questionable articles can be removed and the article texts can be quickly reviewed for possible changes or

[Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

I see that there's an active workboard in Phabricator at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/225/ for CAPTCHA issues. Returning to a subject that has been discussed several times before: the last I heard is that our current CAPTCHAs do block some spambots, but they also present

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

David's example is, unfortunately, probably a good one to keep in mind. Regarding enforcement, WMF's traditional approach is that staff discipline is handled on a track that's independent of community enforcement actions, and the WMF in-house actions are almost entirely opaque which is in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of conduct

Yes, and it may be possible to have enough social support for netiquette without resorting to written policies and enforcement procedures. I'd like to think that this is true, but given examples about problematic activities like personal attacks, I'm not sure. Is informal social pressure combined

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of conduct

Yeah, it seems to me that there's a choice here. Either have a policy with an enforcement strategy and the social support for actually following through with that enforcement strategy in a way that makes situations better rather than more acrimonious, or don't have a written policy and let nature

Re: [Wikitech-l] Geohack tools

proposed - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Maps (feel free to add more) On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:23 PM, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: I just now realized how powerful these tools are when I started clicking

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Lightning Talks August 25

for updates! :) Hope this helps! On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, nice idea. I'm just wondering if this concept could be expanded to be more explicitly inclusive of other kinds of activities like LE, education, GLAM, Legal, Comms, Research

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Lightning Talks August 25

Hi, nice idea. I'm just wondering if this concept could be expanded to be more explicitly inclusive of other kinds of activities like LE, education, GLAM, Legal, Comms, Research, affiliates, etc. I think that this could increase participation. Pine On Aug 12, 2015 10:53 AM, Rachel Farrand

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where to store OAuth application information?

OK, this sounds like a level of sensitivity greater than what I think is appropriate for a standard wiki page, and possibly greater than for standard admin full protection. If Special:* is the only or best way to achieve that, so be it. Pine On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Gergo Tisza

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