Every RF guy I know ways the lightning dissipators work.
These are nice: http://www.lawrencebehr.net/international/lightmas.php
-RickG
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Marlon K. Schafero...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
Nextel spends tens or hundreds of thousands per device.
Our stuff is cheaper
How about the metal zip ties?
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Marlon K. Schafero...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
I have not seen any zip ties hold up. Even the supposedly uv rated ones.
The BEST I've seen so far (learned this from an old time linesman) is to use
a big, uv rated zip tie to hold
I saw one member
here, I think, who has a larger heat sink machined for their boards due to
heat issues in the southern regions but I can't find that thread.
An example, if your computer at home has a fan failure on the processor or
the heat sink is choked with dust and can't wick away the
If you are in the US, you can look up the FCC ID to see what frequencies
are legal.
-Hal
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 22:44 -0700, Tim Kerns wrote:
I just received a couple to begin testing (more like playing with) and I'm
not sure of the Freq. it covers.
The selections are :
5180 to 5320 in
Yep! That's the one! What issues were you having before you added the heat
sinks?
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom Sharples
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:38 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
Would you mind sharing the FCC id?
UBNT claims it is different than the regular bullet, but doesn't share
it, and I don't see it on the FCC oet website search.
If it's the same as the bullet, you'll only be able to use the 5745 and
up freq band.
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:44:40PM -0700, Tim
They are supposed to explain the extra features in a press release this
weekend.
From the forums it appears they are going to impliment optional polling
on their BulletM series w/cpe's to follow, other differences would be
the single stream 802.11n, and a much beefier CPU for more users per
The bands legal for outdoor use in the US is:
U-NII-2 - 5.25GHz to 5.35GHz (subject to DFS)
U-NII Worldwide - 5.47GHz to 5.725GHz (Subject to DFS, otherwise known as
the 5.4GHz band)
U-NII-3 - 5.725GHz to 5.825GHz
U-NII-1 is 5.15GHz to 5.25GHz and is illegal for operation outdoors in the
United
Hal
Did you received my email about the second FCC I'd of 3.65 gear in
your wiki ?
Sent from my Motorola Startac...
On Aug 6, 2009, at 8:17 AM, Harold Bledsoe hbled...@deliberant.net
wrote:
If you are in the US, you can look up the FCC ID to see what
frequencies
are legal.
-Hal
We have a couple of sectors of 900 MHz Tranzeo which were running fine
previously but seem to experience enormous latency at times now. I am
talking about upwards of 5000 milliseconds (5 full seconds) for a return on
a ping. It is intermittent. I am guessing interference but was wondering if
We have a couple of 900MHz system, I'd hate to say it, but seems like
interference to me. I've never seen a bad config cause latency to shoot
up. The only other possibility is a bad Ethernet interface, check auto
negotiation on your switch and look to see if you're getting any
physical errors such
Hey guys...could it be someone overutilizing bandwidth and/or something
floating around that is pulling lots of data?
Leon
Bret Clark wrote:
We have a couple of 900MHz system, I'd hate to say it, but seems like
interference to me. I've never seen a bad config cause latency to shoot
up. The
What does your noise floor look like? C/I?
Have you tried moving from H-pol to V-pol and vice versa?
Could it be self interference (which I think might be the biggest problem
with 900MHz, at least the possibility of it)?
What type of antennas are you using... can you sectorize further or put
Don't feel too left Chuck out we lost a tower site in the same storm.
Second time in seven years a total loss. Both times we've lost our gear
it has come via the electrical side. Our tower gets hit by a strike or
two almost every storm and we never have issues. This time it literaly
blew the
I agree with Josh H POL is a must on 900
3-dB Networks wrote:
What does your noise floor look like? C/I?
Have you tried moving from H-pol to V-pol and vice versa?
Could it be self interference (which I think might be the biggest problem
with 900MHz, at least the possibility of it)?
What type of
Since it sounds like this came in on the AC, how about a surge protector
on incoming AC line? We've had sites where the power company's grounding
is so bad we've lost power supply surge protectors in just about every
storm that comes through the area...until we put surge protection at the
breaker
I've never heard of such a thing.
- Original Message -
From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's your method?
How about the metal zip ties?
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at
Something like that. These guys have one that runs for 90 hours is 250
watts 12 or 24 VDC and uses a methanol and water mix. methane fuel
cells don't use platinum and are, therefore, less expensive. Its
configurable with an RS-232 port. It can be used as a battery charger
as well so that
Not recommending this brand... just found it on google
http://www.absolutesource.com/products/specialty-cable-ties/stainless-steel/
standard/
I've never seen them on a tower.
I hate to say it, but the cell guys do it right. Hangers are the way to go
if you can afford the time and the cost of
I looked at a Transtector unit a few weeks ago. It's an isolation
transformer that sits outdoors between the entrance panel and our
internal electrical system. It was roughly $1K for the unit. Kind of
wish I would have bought it now. We are the end of the line on the power
grid and have 1-3
What do those cost?
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Curtis Maurand
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 8:08 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto
Most of my tranzeo AP's have had to be replaced due to similar things. They
started out good, but as people have done more things with the internet they
are dying. We're changing them ALL. The tr6000 and 6600 anyway. These
days they can't seem to handle more than 4 or 5 subs on them.
I have a project that requires turning a remote relay on and off, over
the distance of about a mile. I'd like dry contacts at either end.
Would a SCADA product do this? No need for anything serial or
ethernet, just need to switch a relay on and off.
See a couple of earlier posts about Panduit wire ties. They have
plastic coated stainless steel, etc.
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
I've never heard of such a thing.
- Original Message -
From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August
I called one of the resellers, $5-10k DEPENDING ON CONFIGURATION AND FUEL.
I think an extra 8D at $205 would be more reliable and biannual replacement
would pencil better...But they are COOL, and very small. At least that 250w
unit is.
cp
-Original Message-
From:
Jeremy, could the small digitallogger power controller do it?
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 8:43 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Relay Control (Scada?)
Jeremy
What is your available commnunications mediuym between sites?
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-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:42:52
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Relay Control
2009/8/6 lakel...@gbcx.net:
Jeremy
What is your available commnunications mediuym between sites?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
Wireless, wireless, and wireless. There is no IP path or hardware
connection at all. I am looking for something compact that can be
outdoor mounted, or
Ethernet,
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-
From: lakel...@gbcx.net
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:01:03
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Relay Control (Scada?)
Jeremy
What is your available commnunications mediuym
It looked to me like just the tab is metal. Like the flex cuffs that the
cops use.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's
They also make pager based units Pretty cool stuff.
Lee with Hutton should know where to get them.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com
To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 9:03 AM
Subject: Re:
Any ballpark figures?
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Curtis Maurand
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:08
No. The whole thing is metal
Unfortunately the tool they have for it cannot control the tension so you can
overtighten them. Or you can tighten by hand and then cut them with cutters
but then you risk leaving a nice sharp edge.
They are good for transmission line but questionable for Cat5. I
I have one HPOL sector out of 23 the remaining are all vertical. I use
filters everywhere and use mostly WaveRider. I had extremely poor luck
with horizontal years back and haven't looked at them again.
We use Antel antennas mostly 120deg or less. I have some sites less than
3 miles apart. I
I'd try putting a netequalizer on the network, setting the
connections to 15 or so and let it do it's thing.
Here in corn country the big farmers are all using these 900 MHz GPS
location units on top of their tractors. Poles and other deployments
have gone up everywhere to create the network;
You can ham it, using a DTMF controller at the site you're looking to
switch on off, feeding audio to it off of a scanner or other inexpensive
radio receiver (or even a phone line), using a handheld or mobile radio at
the local site to send DTMF tones.
The control board is around $100,
I can attest that they have full stainless steel ties. I saw the plastic
coated ones yesterday. I didn't really have a chance to review them, but
they appeared to be just what we describe here... plastic coated stainless
steel.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
There is one that is all stainless steel. I don't know if I still have
the part number as the last ones I purchased were 5 years ago. I will look.
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
It looked to me like just the tab is metal. Like the flex cuffs that the
cops use.
marlon
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http://www.panduit.com/Products/ProductOverviews/ProductSearch/index.htm?Ne=1lastNodeId=ss_prod_steelcabletiespermidsid=122EF8B11610N=501%20342+3002486recName=MSC2W38T15-L6
How do you know about flexcuffs?
:-P
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-Original Message-
From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:06:03
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's your method?
It
I don't remember, you'd have to call them.
--C
3-dB Networks wrote:
What do those cost?
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Curtis Maurand
Sent: Thursday,
2009/8/6 lakel...@gbcx.net:
How do you know about flexcuffs?
He has a history you know.
http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless/images/cop%20car%20install/cuffs.JPG
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An isolation transformer without any protection probably wouldn't
offer much as the higher frequency components of the transient would
probably pass the transformer through capacitive coupling between the
windings. I'm sure the Transtector has some type of protection/
clamping. That price
Hey Marlon,
Are you totally bridged or are you routed to each Tower?
ryan
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
Most of my tranzeo AP's have had to be replaced due to similar things. They
started out good, but as people have done more things with the internet they
are dying. We're changing them ALL.
I did a lot of lightning protection for composite aircraft. After
initial losses on my towers, here's our basic system:
1. All ethernet cables inside or out must be shielded. Ethernet is a
high impedance signal that lightning can couple into easily. We also
prefer gel filled cables for
Why do these guys get published?
http://ifwnewsletters.newsletters.infoworld.com/t/5615001/250703550/209575/0/
I added a comment.
Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of
trial and suffering
Strange; It's nothing to do with Net Neutrality. It's just the dark side
of the Apple software business showing through.
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 03:59:43PM -0400, Steve Barnes wrote:
Why do these guys get published?
I won't read it, has Apple.
On 8/6/09, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote:
Strange; It's nothing to do with Net Neutrality. It's just the dark side
of the Apple software business showing through.
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 03:59:43PM -0400, Steve Barnes wrote:
Why do these guys get published?
My wife is a little wild sometimes!
roflol
Or maybe I have friends in low places?
How the heck have you been lately?
grin
marlon
- Original Message -
From: lakel...@gbcx.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
Bridged.
Kinda. We have small sites that are fed via dsl so I guess you'd call those
bridged. Same issues there as on segments that have a few hundred users.
The funny thing is that the MT gear that goes in usually doubles the speeds
and has NO problems with lockups etc.
marlon
-
Assuming these use Atheros chipsets, try setting the beacon interval to
1000. This mitigates a driver-level issue that crops up when there's a lot
of interference.
Tom S.
- Original Message -
From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent:
They aren't off-list... Are people not seeing me ramble?
ryan
-Original Message-
From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:23 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency
Hey buddy Its comical to see you
I got the offlist vs routed questionn that is it.
On 8/6/09, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote:
They aren't off-list... Are people not seeing me ramble?
ryan
-Original Message-
From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:23 PM
To: WISPA
optional polling
This will be real nice. I wonder if the will do it for all the NS and PS series?
Scottie
-- Original Message --
From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:34:35 -0400
Yes, they are being very quiet about it, supposed to announce it during
the weekend officially, as it hasn't been released yet. They are
planning to offer Canopy type functionality at Ubiquity prices. They
said no PS though, so I suspect they have something else in mind to
replace that.
Whats the majority think the equipment damage from lightning comes
from...electric surge or coupling on the Ethernet? Will running on battery or
solar lessen your chances of equipment damage that much more that it is worth
the cost? I am in the same boat as these guys and have one location hit
Does anyone have a copy of the manual for a Packeteer 4000, I sure could use
one. If there is one one the net please let me know.
Thanx
NGL
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Every time I've had lightning damage my UPS is uneffected. APC and
no-name brands.
On 8/6/09, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote:
Whats the majority think the equipment damage from lightning comes
from...electric surge or coupling on the Ethernet? Will running on battery
or solar lessen
What do you mean by Canopy type functionality?
On 8/6/09, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote:
Yes, they are being very quiet about it, supposed to announce it during
the weekend officially, as it hasn't been released yet. They are
planning to offer Canopy type functionality at Ubiquity
We have four solar locations, two of which have operated for over five
years without any lightning damage. At least one of them is in a
location and with a mast that I'd consider to be a prime target.
The one that really nailed us was a nearby building strike - it
destroyed an antenna and the
Sounds like your ground potential between tower ground and electrical ground
might is not optimal.
Make sure that the tower ground is also correctly and properly grounded to
the electrical ground.
Seems your electronic might be shunt between the two grounds so each time
tower get a hit your
Hi,
Unless they are doing something in hardware, they will NOT be able to
duplicate Canopy polling in software. It just can't be done. Mikrotik
has tried (and come very close), but there is only so much you can do
in software.
Travis
Microserv
Michael Baird wrote:
Yes, they are being
Having Ubiquiti gear with Mikrotik-like software polling would be really nice.
Hope UBNT is hearing... :-)
Rubens
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net wrote:
Hi,
Unless they are doing something in hardware, they will NOT be able to
duplicate Canopy polling in
My last post should have read,
Does anyone have a copy of the manual for a Packeteer 4500 (not 4000) , I sure
could use one. If there is one one the net please let me know.
Thanx
NGL
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Where are you located?
4.a Water towers (metal) are usually very well bonded. They make
good ground interconnects since they are welded.
This is an almost exact case of my problem location. It is on top of a 66'
water tower that is on a very high elevation for our area. Not the highest
spot,
Good post and comment Steve. I feel the same way. The entitlement
attitude is taking this country down. -RickG
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Steve Barnesst...@pcswin.com wrote:
Why do these guys get published?
http://ifwnewsletters.newsletters.infoworld.com/t/5615001/250703550/209575/0/
I
We are in Midwest, not a high stick area, so take this for what it's worth.
Electrical.
ISObar 2 outlet sure plugged into outlet
Tripplite DUAL CONVERSION battery plugged into ISObar. This converts from
ac to dc, and back to ac. It cleans the power
digital loggers reboot board for outlet
Canopy uses a timing feature. Much like polling except their's goes a step
further with GPS sync. I have always advocated that one day, one of these
cheap mfg providers would get this right in their equipment, and then Moto
would not be the sh*t no more. If Ubiquity gets this right, they will
There is more to Canopy than timing. Until a cheap manufacturer ditches the
atheros chipset they will never compete RF wise with Canopy. Its hard to
beat a system that has had millions poured into it by the best RF engineers
in the world :-D
Timing in an atheros chipset though would make the
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