It's 2:30 AM...
I just drove up to the house, and walked VERY fast inside. After all,
weather.com says that it's 12 degrees and an 8 MPH wind. In their head,
maybe.Outside of the little valley I live in, the wind's more like 25
mph. There's no snow on the ground.
I don't make a
maybe none of the parts are bad (except the original mini-itx board)
and it is just getting too cold out for them to function properly?
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:49 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
It's 2:30 AM...
I just drove up to the house, and walked VERY fast inside. After all,
Power supply could also be the culprit.
Power connections that moved with the cold. Re-seat every cable.
Philip Dorr wrote:
maybe none of the parts are bad (except the original mini-itx board)and it is
just getting too cold out for them to function properly?
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:49 AM,
Is this something specific to the RB450/450G? I have the RB750 and I'm running
4.3 and having no issues.
I'm using the RB750 on a 15Mbps/2Mbps cable connection with numerous pcq queues
doing prioritization (no limiting) on outbound (queuing with no prioritization
on the inbound) and I'm
That was our experience with Mini-ITX boards as well. One thing we
were able to tell was that they didn't like sudden changes in
temperature. It didn't have to be outside the temperature tolerances
of the board, but even going from 80 to 60 over a couple hours would
cause it to lock up.
In the
It's not specific to any board, as it happens on X86 and RB1000s as
well. However, it only happens to customers using Mikrotik as their
DNS server.
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:46 AM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
Is this something specific to the RB450/450G? I have the RB750 and I'm
running 4.3
Maybe government has to be the answer if we're going to address the problem of
the vast number of people who could afford insurance but choose to spend their
money elsewhere. It's going to require the government forcing them to buy
insurance or pay some tax that is used to fund health
It's snowing here!
Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:07 AM
To: 'WISPA General
I once had a Tranzeo radio running at near 500ft of cable, at 100 Base full,
with no problems. Granted it was Belden 7919 Shielded Cable... it was a
backhaul for my house and didn't have issue with the cable (getting the
radio to deal with the noise floor was a separate issue :-)
FWIW... I've
The important specs are twists per foot and capacitance per foot with the
capacitance being the most important. The lower the capacitance per foot the
lower the attenuation and the lower the crosstalk (because there is capacitive
interaction with neighboring pairs as well). If you can find a
I believe it is the doctors/hospitals causing the issues with high insurance.
Here as a good example... True Story: I have two friends that have children
that needed/had the same operation. Friend 1 had insurance, Friend 2 did not.
They went to the same doctors and same hospitals. Friend 1 with
80+ and sunny here ;)
To bad it will not last long. Can see why Gino lives here in the Carribbean.
Talk about Gino should past by him shortly ;)
(Alright so I'm on vacation on a Disney Cruise to the eastern Carribbean)
/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
-Original Message-
From:
Hi,
We are running into some interference type issues in a few markets with
900MHz. We've put in place some 10 and 20 MHz bandpass to filter cell and
paging. The interference seems to be still bothering our AP. In these
markets we have some antiquated MikroTik equipment running SR9 cards. We
I would say the problems is lawyers. When a skilled good doctor that is
nationally renowned as a OB can't make a living as a OB alone yet he is always
busy but end up doing plastic surgery on the side because his malpractice
insurance is so high (yet never had to use it) but he has to carry it.
That's correct and you're blaming the doctor? Your example gives you some
idea the amount of waste our current system is saddled with.
Best,
Brad
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Monday,
In Illinois you are required to purchase auto insurance and you will get
fined, and I believe ultimately jailed if you continue to ignore that
mandate. They don't provide it, but you are required to carry a minimum
liability. It is at the state level, where it should be instead of at the
It's like taking a crappy football team and trying to fix the problem with
new uniforms.
But the feds current answer is to create another football team, buy new
uniforms for their team with taxpayer dollars and then expect all the teams,
including theirs, to suddenly start performing well.
Paul
Yeah, I woke up to snow. Now I'm glad I worked till midnight last night, at
least I didn't have snow to deal with.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:33 AM
To: WISPA General
Nick Huanca wrote:
We are running into some interference type issues in a few markets with
900MHz. We've put in place some 10 and 20 MHz bandpass to filter cell and
paging. The interference seems to be still bothering our AP. In these
markets we have some antiquated MikroTik equipment running
Just taking issue with the I was charged $8 for two Tylenol, I was charged
$10 for a Tylenol. A beer in a bar (with far less overhead) is $5.
Isn't the fact that if one doesn't have insurance the hospitals work with you
at the very least go to show that the folks providing us healthcare aren't
Have a blast!!! Is the cruise stopping in San Juan?
Sent from my Motorola Startac...
On Dec 7, 2009, at 10:30 AM, e...@wisp-router.com e...@wisp-
router.com wrote:
80+ and sunny here ;)
To bad it will not last long. Can see why Gino lives here in the
Carribbean. Talk about Gino should
We'll save some snow for you.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:27 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] It's too darn cold!
80+ and sunny here ;)
To bad
I was clear when I said need insurance. If you don't have a car or drive
the car on the public roadway the government doesn't fine you or jail you
for not having auto insurance.
The government isn't forcing you to have a car and buy their auto insurance
at the price and under the terms they
Are you sure you didn't eat spicy food before bed and this was just a
nightmare?
At least you got a new hat. That's the bright side out of all this, I say.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Monday, December
That's correct and you're blaming the doctor?
Yes, or the hospital. Many insurance companies may have a set rate they will
pay, but many do not. In this instance, the doctor/hospital knew that Friend 1
had insurance and Friend 2 did not. Why the cost disparity? The doctor/hospital
knew they
I believe the proposed changes have only dealt with the insurance side
(government provided and more rules for the private sector insurance
providers). On the healthcare provider (doctors, hospitals) side I believe
they've only talked about rules. Maybe new government clinics that provide
In IL, like Missouri, you are only required to have that insurance
if you own/operate a vehicle.
There are LOTS of people out there that don't.
In the US, if they have their way, I will be required to have insurance
period. It does not matter if I am self pay, never not payed, and
am happy with
Agreed about the lawyers, that is why it is so difficult to find
an OB now.
But, every single hospital, doctors office, lab, and pretty much
any other health care provider offers discounts for cash pay
customers.
Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ
No insurance was probably required to put some down, and then paid the
balance
quickly.
Doctors and hospitals love that - it saves them a tremendous amount of money
compared to the discounts that they have to give insurance, billing, time
waiting
for money, rebilling, giving the billing service
Insurance operations cost more because of the paperwork involved in claiming
the insurance. I doubt it's $25k different, but...
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: Scottie Arnett
If the government really can do it better and cheaper then the private
sector will follow suit.
Government has a history showing they can't do anything better or cheaper
than the private sector. If the government can really run a better, cheaper,
more efficient health insurance program than the
Well right, but a vast majority of people that live outside of Chicago or
St. Louis have one or more cars per person because that's what it takes to
participate in society (work, school, food, etc.).
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Why would the majority of individual people need multiple cars?
I can see a family of 3 having 3 cars.
I can see a worker needing a car to get around and a van/truck for work.
But I can't see random Joe (like me) needing a second vehicle. Or are you
including company owned vehicles?
Josh
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 09:53, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote:
Ok, but you still don't HAVE to have a car - hence you don't HAVE
to have insurance.
With the new plan, no matter what, I HAVE to pay for insurance.
But you also have to be healthy. Unless of course you're harboring
LinkedIn
Paul Rice requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn:
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Dave,
I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
- Paul Rice
Accept invitation from Paul Rice
The majority don't have more cars than people, but I don't know any in my
area that has fewer cars than people, only the same or more.
Some people it's sports cars; some people they have a somewhat nice car they
drive in summer and a beater for winter; some people it's recreational
whether its
It's 10* here right now. Gotta love it!
First, LAYERS If I know I'll be outside I start with a long sleeved
shirt. Usually something like longjohns.
I wear thick blue jeans.
Next go the Carharts. Not a pair of knockoffs. I've got both, the Carharts
are the only way to go. Much much
There was an unexpected problem that prevented us from completing your
request.
May need to be individualized.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
--- Albert Einstein
On
Bottom line is auto insurance is not required. However, they are proposing
government run health insurance will be required and you will be fined and
put in jail if you don't buy it.
The entire car insurance as it compares to the proposed health insurance is
a failed argument. There is no
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:45, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:
Bottom line is auto insurance is not required. However, they are proposing
government run health insurance will be required and you will be fined and
put in jail if you don't buy it.
[citation needed]
David Smith
MVN.net
Another thing to consider in this scenario is negotiated fees. If you
have insurance, the insurance company will negotiate a discount on the
fees charged by the provider on your behalf. You pay your deductible,
your insurance carrier pays the difference between your deductible
contribution and
I have a site where we deployed approx 45 engenius indoor 3610 deployed in
26 buildings. They are all in ap mode only and have a hardwire connection
back to my main outbound internet gateway. They are all on the same subnet
for management, and the users are on different subnet for their access
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:57, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:
While I haven't read the entire 2000+ page proposed bill I apparently have
read more of it than you.
Clearly not, or else you'd know that the fine actually is just a tax
penalty, and that the current draft of the Senate Finance
Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
- Original Message -
From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] health
I don't think an rb14 can handle the power need of multiple XR cards.
I'd suggest unless you have a good reason besides saving $100, either
use routerboards or stick to manufactured radio systems from a reputable
and reliable manufacturer.
You pay more money or give up a little flexibility,
It is also snowing here in Vernalis and Modesto areas, and north, but it's
barely sticking here. We haven't seen snow this low since maybe the 80's
I guess I've got to put away the floral shirt and shorts and find me a hat
with ears.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Broadcast storm?
Alan Long wrote:
I have a site where we deployed approx 45 engenius indoor 3610 deployed in
26 buildings. They are all in ap mode only and have a hardwire connection
back to my main outbound internet gateway. They are all on the same subnet
for management, and the users are
SShhh, don't tell him that, hes a StarOS guy =)
Along the same, my primary site went down last night, cycling every
30~45seconds. -15F reported at the site this morning. RB433 is spec'd
for -4FW T F
Time to replace it with a few NS's and a RB450/750 in better temp controlled
case. To bad
Thanks for this list.
We don't see a lot of really cold weather, but when a cold storm comes through,
it seems that's when I have to go fix something on the towermy pal Murphy.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of
Thanks, Marlon. You have any picture of you in all that?!
Do they make a heated coat that can work off PoE? Just askin'
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:28 AM
To:
You got it. It runs like a dream unless it's 2am, 5 below, 2 foot of snow
and the ladder to the top is covered in ice. Other than that, it's a happy
day.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Monday,
Actually, as long as it is all done with quality (read: expensive) gear,
it really wouldn't look all that different.
We saw temps of -40 F for a while last winter, and Marlon is spot on.
The only thing that I would add is to make sure that the layer closest
to your skin is something other than
That made me smile Robert. Thank you for that!
Regards,
Jeff
Jeff Broadwick
ImageStream
800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can)
+1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l)
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Monday,
You're welcome. I've already envisioned PoE powered socks and gloves as
well. Just install a switch inside the lining of your coat and one cable
controls all. Make it IP based and you can monitor and control the temps as
Zones with the your iPhone or Blackberry. Feet Cold? We have an App for
Thinsulate is good and light. Redwing has some insulated lace up
boots with Thinsulate. They have fiberglass shanks and fiberglass
toes instead of steel -- supposed to be safer for electricians.
I think the Wrangler jeans with Thinsulate in them are awesome. It's
warmer than long johns and
Don't use steel wool. You will never get all the steel back
out. Clean them with warm soapy water and let them dry well. The
black you are seeing is probably silver oxide on the silver
plating. Silver oxide conducts RF just fine. They can be really
black and still work just fine.
At
If it works off batteries, you could easily make a breakout panel.
Plug the cable into your coat. Take the power to the coat. Data pairs
to another jack. Plug in the laptop. Stay warm and configure away.
Robert West wrote:
Thanks, Marlon. You have any picture of you in all that?!
Do
Sounds reasonable to me. I have found that my first instinct is often not
correct. Hence the existence of my first wife.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:45 PM
To: WISPA General
We have the makings of a product here. No, not one that will generate cash
but a real bonafide product that someone could lose a lot of money
manufacturing and marketing. It's the American way. (Made in China, of
course)
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Concerning mandatory auto insurance, I think missing is the fact that while
not required to have a car, I would be hard pressed to survive without a
human body. The requirement for all that drive cars represents the same
principle, that if everyone that fits the profile (car drivers, those with
Take away my ice cream then. I pay my own way - and I am fairly healthy
although I could lose some weight. I still run circles around my
firefighters
on my fire department, the ones that are 20-25 years younger than I.
Where does all this stop? Will they actually want to take away my
I have RB333, 532, 433 and 411 survive without issue last winter when it hit
-10F. Non temperature controlled environments - freezing their chips off on
water towers and towers.
I'd take the suggestion provided and just use a Routerboard. ITX is decent
but I've seen several scenarios frown upon
When you say no wifi does that mean you can not connect to the AP or that
your laptop doesn't see the AP broadcasting in 2.4?
I would have to guess packet storm as well.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
The secret to creativity is
If the current draft now says you can't be jailed for not paying this
particular tax/fine then ok, but that's not the way it was written earlier.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is flipped back...sooner or later.
Regardless, the government is forcing you to buy something from them at a
price they
Can't connect via wifi or Ethernet, can't see it via 2.4. I have the sniffer
going now.
Aerowire
Alan Long
Director of Network Operations
alan.l...@aerowire.net
687 North Dean Road
Auburn, AL 36830
tel: 3342759998
mobile: 336092
Get a bigger harness! You might need two of them
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] It's too darn cold!
Thanks, Shaddi.
Good list.
If it were me?
Toss em and start over.
Not worth the trouble. Once corrosion starts it's hard to stop it.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:51 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Cleaning N Connectors
Praying for ya! I can identify as many here can and we feel your pain. Below
freezing weather really sucks. I had several sessions like that last year.
One time, I had to borrow a friends bucket and it was full of water and
wouldnt drain. So I was in the ice cube filled bucket up to my knees for
If you can't see the 2.4 spectrum then the device simply locked up. What is
causing it sounds like a bug to me. One simple broadcast packet nails
several of the radios and freaks them out. Do you have the latest
firmware for them? In the past these radios would lose their config if they
had to
I had that once. Then I woke up and things were worse than the nightmare. So
I went back to sleep :)
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
Are you sure you didn't eat spicy food before bed and this was just a
nightmare?
At least you got a new hat.
LOL!It really was a very warm hat.
--
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:58 AM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day!
Are you sure you didn't eat spicy
It's true! Having resources in times of need are important. I have a few
good customers I can call on. Most are hams. One time I climbed up a 200'
tower several times to replace everything in an attempt to fix it. I had
been up late the night before and ran out of energy. So, I called one of the
I've had a great experince over the past few years with StarOS/WRAP combos.
They just work. With that said, I am slowly migrating to
Mikrotik/Routerboards because I like the control they offer. So far, they
just work as well. -RickG
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:39 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net
You should post pictures of the hat!
MDK wrote:
LOL!It really was a very warm hat.
--
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:58 AM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
Amen Brother! But, I'm not sure the new choices are much better.We need a
few good men!
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:
Vote 'em out! I'm speaking of any representative regardless of party
affiliation that has voted for government run health care. They
There really should not be government assistance. But then back to reality,
it is here and will probably always will be. In that case, I agree that IF
you are taking government assistance in any form it should require an
exchange of strict rules that promote proper personal responsibility. It
also
When the Constitution is called No longer relevant to a modern society on
the floor of the House of Representatives and there is no uproar over it
As I said before, I've stopped paying too much attention to the news. Did
that really happen? If so, I believe the real problem is that there was no
All the configs were fine after reboot. I do have the latest firmware on all
of them. I even reloaded the firmware on a few of them and still had them
lock up. Since going to router in front of them, they are working ok.
Aerowire
Alan Long
Director of Network
LOL I do have a pick but fortunately I can't seem to find it right now.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] It's too darn cold!
That made me
I hesitate to jump into this, but this particular issue had to do with what
would happen if you didn't pay the fine for not having insurance. It is
really just a tax, and the IRS considers non-payment the same as tax
fraud...thus the potential of jail time. A Congressman sent a letter to the
IRS
h
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SJ5S43VGz5Q/StJenrWlLxI/FzI/b4UybsR59aw/s400/blanket+coat+2.jpg
http://www.gerbing.com/coreheat.net/Products/Products.html
Let me know how any of that works!
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: 'WISPA
Out here our lineman keeps a rope ladder in his bucket in case that happens.
Won't catch me climbing out of one. I'll freeze to death first! shudder
marlon
- Original Message -
From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009
Man, way, way, way off topic on this list but as risk of adding more to it,
here goes...
October 3, 2002. Chairman Henry Hyde was quoted on the record and live on
C-Span as saying.
There are things in the Constitution that have been overtaken by events, by
time. Declaration of war is one of
Marlon! You got your got your hair cut! Looks good on ya!
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] It's too darn cold!
2009/12/7 Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com:
If it were me?
Toss em and start over.
Not worth the trouble. Once corrosion starts it's hard to stop it.
marlon
He could always solder new N connectors to the antenna element, and be
good as new. The Andrew sectors are a good unit, it'd
That's my thinking as well. What's the worst I could do? Flames could be
involved but I don't foresee that in this case.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 4:30 PM
To: WISPA
I read black stuff, not corrosion. If they are silver connectors,
then it's silver oxide and NOT a problem.
In the old days all, and now only the best equipment still use silver
connectors. Just like an old dime will turn black once it has skin
oils on it, so will a silver connector.
I never would have guessed silver though. Someone mentioned that earlier
too. At first it looked like rubber tape residue but it had me scratching
me head since boy never put any cables on them. Makes perfect sense though.
They will probably be okay, I just didn't want to attack them with the
LL Bean.
Mike wrote:
Thinsulate is good and light. Redwing has some insulated lace up
boots with Thinsulate. They have fiberglass shanks and fiberglass
toes instead of steel -- supposed to be safer for electricians.
I think the Wrangler jeans with Thinsulate in them are awesome. It's
Bob:
The fingers are gold plated and won't corrode either. When you're
cleaning them, and since they were outside unprotected, get your
close up goggles on and use a toothpick to make sure there is
nothing in the space between the fingers.
I actually have some ancient silver N right angle
I hope that's a woman cause I don't want no dude keeping me warm. Just me,
you understand.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Curtis Maurand
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 5:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re:
Well boy, ya learned me something! I honestly never heard of NoAlOx before.
Looked it up, looks good. I'll have to pick some up for other things as
well, looks like.
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike
Sent:
OxGard works too! They usually have that at Menards. Electrical
supply house will have NoAlOx.
At 04:10 PM 12/7/2009, you wrote:
Well boy, ya learned me something! I honestly never heard of NoAlOx before.
Looked it up, looks good. I'll have to pick some up for other things as
well, looks
So, I get to the workshop this afternoon, and walk in.There's a cat on
my chair.I have NO idea how he got in, other than he must have dashed
through the door as I walked in or out. I specifically made sure he wasn't
in the next to last time I walked in or out.
And, of course, as soon
Get em a litter box, he'll keep mice away.
At 04:23 PM 12/7/2009, you wrote:
So, I get to the workshop this afternoon, and walk in.There's a cat on
my chair.I have NO idea how he got in, other than he must have dashed
through the door as I walked in or out. I specifically made sure he
2009/12/7 Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com:
Sorry, Mike. I think he's mine. He got out yesterday, haven't seen him
since. Pees everywhere, rubber tape used to help but not anymore. See if
he answers to the name Jihad. If so I'll drop by and get him.
I've been losing that cat a lot.
And somehow very fitting. Very fitting, indeed.
Hopefully you have no pictures of your cat, Mohammad. If so, my cat Jihad
will be forced to pay you a visit.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: Monday,
As business people, we should be looking at insurance for health like we do
as insurance for everything else.What's it there for? Protect us from
catastrophe, like falling through some guy's glass skylight, or accidently
parking the bucket truck on top of his sprinker control box and it
Great post! clap - clap - clap
Brad
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 4:43 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Insurance
As business people, we should be looking at
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 16:42, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
The free market really does work. We use it daily in our business...
Now
imagine if we used it for health care, too.We know how to do that, don't
we?
There is a fundamental difference between broadband Internet and
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