: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
i will respectfully disagree..WISP Industry is rather a broad
Term... How one provider (WISP or otherwise) sets up their Service
DMARC / Delivery of the Service is totally dependent on the WISP and to
Whom they are delivering the Service to.
If you
*smh*
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On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 16:49 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
No.
The cable modem (radio) does the authentication (therefore rate limiting, one
On Sun, 2012-10-21 at 09:25 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
Other than custom solutions that cost thousands of dollars,
there's no way of doing what I want.
With this one statement, you have summarized the problem. I will drop
this thread because it has become clear that the problem is not really
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On 10/21/2012 9:53 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
There is no method known to me in the WISP industry to do what I have
described, the ability
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On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 16:49 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
No.
The cable modem (radio) does the authentication (therefore rate
: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
See Comments Inline.
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On 10/21/2012 10:25 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
It wouldn't be hard to accomplish
and cost too much.
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See Comments
At 10/19/2012 12:40 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
Maybe I should take this off-list but this would be a better
question. What RFC or industry standard features are you referring
? Specific items! :)
It's not in RFCs; RFCs are the IETF vehicle, which is really all
about TCP/IP. Carrier
:51:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
While this is your opinion, others have a different opinion...
For what is it worth, It would be nice to have Radius attributes for
provisioning the radio..It currently shows it to be on their todo list.
As for your other item, I
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NAT at the at a couple of towers
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While this is your
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While this is your opinion, others have a different opinion...
For what is it worth, It would be nice to have
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 12:55 -0500, Simon Westlake wrote:
I completely agree and I think it is a goal the WISP industry needs to
work towards - the provisioning of CPE is still a nightmare in
comparison to DOCSIS. PPPoE is not a good solution, IMO - it's arguably
better than nothing but you
This is true. If there were only some software company that would come
up with a way to make this easier and add some level of security into
the mix :-)
Perhaps I have said too much
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While this is your opinion
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
While this is your opinion, others have a different opinion...
For what is it worth, It would be nice to have Radius
attributes for
provisioning the radio..It currently shows
On 10/19/2012 1:48 PM, LTI - Dennis Burgess wrote:
don't know why you would let the customer equipment auth. our network
all auth is done at the CPE that we control.
A lot of people are enabling public IPs at the premise by having the
customer router engage in PPPoE with the ISP concentrator.
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While this is your opinion, others have a different opinion...
For what is it worth, It would be nice to have Radius attributes for
provisioning
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While this is your opinion, others have a different
opinion
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don't know why you would let the customer equipment auth. our network all auth
is done at the CPE that we control.
On Fri, Oct 19
wireless@wispa.org
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I have all of that now. I NAT the CPE.
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On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Simon Westlake
: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 12:55 -0500, Simon Westlake wrote:
I completely agree and I think it is a goal the WISP industry needs to
work towards - the provisioning of CPE is still a nightmare in
comparison to DOCSIS. PPPoE is not a good solution, IMO - it's
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 15:52 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
Except that's sub-optimal. I do it that way, but it's not the best way of
doing it. We shouldn't have to manage that.
What is it that you feel you have to manage behind the natted CPE?
Unless they are a business account, they don't really
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 15:52 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
It's going to require the radio company to do it first.
So, you want to see a mechanism in place where you (or your customer)
purchase some random gear, put it on their tower or house and they are
online without you doing anything? THAT is
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On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 15:52 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
Except that's sub-optimal. I do it that way, but it's not the best way of
doing it. We
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On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 15:52 -0500
No, I think he wants some piece of equipment that allows the subscriber
to plug into the ethernet port on his CPE and it is handed a public IP
address via DHCP (that he can control without knowing the MAC of the
equipment).
One way to come close would be to assign a /30 to each customer and
Either they have to configure PPPoE or I have to configure NAT. If they use
PPPoE, they don't pass 1500 byte packets (I've asked about raising the MTUs
above 1500 to accommodate, and no one had an answer) and they have to
configure the router. You use DHCP and now either you can't do the
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
don't know why you would let the customer equipment auth. our network all
auth is done at the CPE that we control.
On Fri
: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
While this is your opinion, others have a different opinion...
For what is it worth, It would be nice to have Radius attributes for
provisioning the radio..It currently shows it to be on their todo list.
As for your other item, I believe DHCP relay is built
: Friday, October 19, 2012 1:48:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
don't know why you would let the customer equipment auth. our
network all auth is done at the CPE that we control.
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Simon Westlake
si
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 16:49 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
No.
The cable modem (radio) does the authentication (therefore rate limiting, one
address per house, etc.) while the customer supplied device is the terminus
for the public IP and does the NAT. I install the radio, hand them the cat6
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 15:50 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
What we're (well, I am anyway) saying is that the way
the WISP industry does it... is sub-optimal.
The way YOU are doing it may be sub-optimal. It is not an industry wide
problem. There are ways to accomplish what you want.
The
MPLS does run over a IP backbone, but can use VPLS tunnels to create what
you are doing at layer 2. Not to mention you would get all of
the benefit of Traffic Engineering, and internal routing giving you the
best of both worlds. Why its sometimes called Layer 2.5, as it creates
tunnels inside
3:46 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to the
customers router.
He have heard other wisp are using the Ubiquiti radio as a router.
Would like feed back why one would do this when
At 10/18/2012 02:52 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
MPLS does run over a IP backbone, but can use VPLS tunnels to create
what you are doing at layer 2. Not to mention you would get all of
the benefit of Traffic Engineering, and internal routing giving you
the best of both worlds. Why its sometimes
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MPLS does run over a IP backbone, but can use VPLS tunnels to create what you
are doing at layer 2. Not to mention you would get all of the benefit of
Traffic Engineering, and internal
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MPLS does run over a IP
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MPLS does run over a IP backbone, but can use VPLS tunnels to create
what you
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On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote:
At 10/18/2012 02:52 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
MPLS does run over a IP backbone, but can use VPLS tunnels to create what
you are doing at layer 2. Not to mention you would get all of the benefit
of
* Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote:
At 10/12/2012 10:23 AM, Tim Densmore wrote:
There's a real market gap not quite being filled by our usual WISP
vendors MT and UBNT. MT has a new CPE router with SFP support. This
would be great for a regional CE fiber network. Let's say you
At 10/17/2012 02:26 AM, Jeremy L. Gaddis wrote:
* Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote:
At 10/12/2012 10:23 AM, Tim Densmore wrote:
There's a real market gap not quite being filled by our usual WISP
vendors MT and UBNT. MT has a new CPE router with SFP support. This
would be great
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NAT at the at a couple of towers, but not at the CPE.
On 10/11/2012 6:52 PM, Sam Tetherow wrote
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MT has several devices with hardware switches on board and fully accessible
through
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MT makes Software and also Hardware (routerboard)
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: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:46:30 AM
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hehe... A switch is a switch is a switch... and then there are switches
with additional functionality built in...
The question here is what is this 'other functionality' are we talking
about ?
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How would you have an untagged VLAN
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MT makes Software and also
Hi Fred,
I think a lot of the confusion here comes from the fact that you're
using generic terms like switching and VLAN to describe complex
Metro-E/Carrier-E scenarios. Standard VLANs break up broadcast domains,
but they don't create virtual circuits or provide total isolation - this
is one
It can be done with Mk and Canopy, both support qinq
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On Oct 13, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Tim Densmore tdensm...@tarpit.cybermesa.com
wrote:
Hi Fred,
I think a lot of the confusion here comes from the fact that you're
using generic terms like switching and VLAN to
With RouterOS based switching chips you gain some additional power, but you
lose per-interface information and control when you enable the switching and
you still have to use bridging to do anything beyond whatever ports happen to
be on the switch chip. Therefore, to use any of the RouterOS
...now for a little bit of a distraction...
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At 10/13/2012 11:27 AM, Tim Densmore wrote:
Hi Fred,
I think a lot of the confusion here comes from the fact that you're
using generic terms like switching and VLAN to describe complex
Metro-E/Carrier-E scenarios. Standard VLANs break up broadcast domains,
but they don't create virtual circuits
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On Oct 13, 2012
On Sat, 2012-10-13 at 09:02 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
Cisco, Dell and Extreme Networks (my current favorite) have
almost unlimited power and granular control. They don't have
some of the features of RouterOS, but teaming one of them with
something running RouterOS is just as effective as
Hi Gino,
Pardon my ignorance, but what's Mk?
TD
On 10/13/2012 09:33 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
It can be done with Mk and Canopy, both support qinq
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On Sat, 2012-10-13 at 12:30 -0400, Fred Goldstein wrote:
I've enjoyed it. I still hope somebody at some point figures out
just how close you can get to an MEF-type switch using RouterOS or
AirOS. Or EdgeOS, Real Soon Now. (They're all Linux under the skin,
after all.)
It can be done
Butch, thanks for that information! I've marked that message
priority high so I don't lose it in my mailing list archive.
I do get your point, that RouterOS was optimized for routing; there's
just nothing else that fits its price points and form factors
(especially outdoor Routerboards), so
On Sat, 2012-10-13 at 17:33 -0400, Fred Goldstein wrote:
I do get your point, that RouterOS was optimized for routing; there's
just nothing else that fits its price points and form factors
(especially outdoor Routerboards), so even if it's a little
inefficient, it may still be
You can do tag swapping and other fancy VLAN tricks in AirOS by
creating VLAN subints and mapping them to each other using bridge
interfaces.
The Linux bridge interface behaves more like a switch than a bridge
in that you can control mac aging, learning, etc so it doesn't blindly
forward traffic.
] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
On Sat, 2012-10-13 at 09:02 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
Cisco, Dell and Extreme Networks (my current favorite) have
almost unlimited power and granular control. They don't have
some of the features of RouterOS, but teaming one of them with
something running RouterOS is just
On Sat, 2012-10-13 at 23:16 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
Of course they fit the networks they're capable of, because
they're capable of so little. ;-) I'm honestly working to
remove all the RB250s from my house's network as they've
become too annoying. I'll have to home-run some more cable,
Hey Fred, we did exactly that with our Hardee County Network, we use licensed
links between MEF switches. Rapid deployment with fiber forward design.
I think we have been through all configurations, bridging, routing and layer2
switching. You could not hit the nail on the head any better
Of Dustin Jurman
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
Hey Fred, we did exactly that with our Hardee County Network, we use licensed
links between MEF switches. Rapid deployment with fiber forward design.
I
Hi Fred,
Could you expand a bit on this? It sounds like you're describing what
I'd refer to as virtual circuits rather than switching. Are you
setting up per-customer VLANs or something like that?
TD
On 10/11/2012 06:35 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
Switching, though, is what Frame Relay and
At 10/12/2012 10:23 AM, Tim Densmore wrote:
Hi Fred,
Could you expand a bit on this? It sounds like you're describing what
I'd refer to as virtual circuits rather than switching. Are you
setting up per-customer VLANs or something like that?
It helps if you think of it as Ethernet-framed Frame
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 10:52 -0400, Fred Goldstein wrote:
There's a real market gap not quite being filled by our usual WISP
vendors MT and UBNT. MT has a new CPE router with SFP support. This
would be great for a regional CE fiber network. Let's say you have a
building (say, Town Hall)
At 10/12/2012 05:48 PM, Butch Evans wrote:
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 10:52 -0400, Fred Goldstein wrote:
There's a real market gap not quite being filled by our usual WISP
vendors MT and UBNT. MT has a new CPE router with SFP support. This
would be great for a regional CE fiber network. Let's
Being a Technical person, and a visual learner.. I am having trouble
translating what Fred is trying to do with a Mikrotik, which he thinks
it cannot do.
We build our Fixed wireless pop's with a Mikrotik Router doing the
Routing Functions at each pop.
Each of the Sectors are connected on their
At 10/12/2012 07:06 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
Being a Technical person, and a visual learner.. I am having trouble
translating what Fred is trying to do with a Mikrotik, which he thinks
it cannot do.
Actually, I said that I don't know how to do it, not that it can or
cannot be done. It may be a
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Arthur Stephens
arthur.steph...@ptera.net wrote:
We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to
the customers router.
He have heard other wisp are using the Ubiquiti radio as a router.
Would like feed back why one would do this when
Faisal Imtiaz
On 10/12/2012 7:19 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
At 10/12/2012 07:06 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
Being a Technical person, and a visual learner.. I am having trouble
translating what Fred is trying to do with a Mikrotik, which he thinks
it cannot do.
Actually, I said that I don't
NAT at the at a couple of towers, but not at the CPE.
On 10/11/2012 6:52 PM, Sam Tetherow wrote:
Not sure I under stand the no-NAT, so every device on the other side
of the CPE has it's own public IP?
On 10/11/2012 4:53 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
We run MT, not UBNT, CPE, but it doesn't matter
MT has several devices with hardware switches on board and fully
accessible through the GUI. They also have a switch sort of based on ROS.
On 10/11/2012 8:35 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
At 10/11/2012 06:52 PM, SamT wrote:
Not sure I under stand the no-NAT, so every device on the other side
of
What is being described is the default behavior of any standard managed
switch. There is no virtual circuit being built and it still
broadcasts across said VLAN. They are simply only allowing the VLAN to
go from point A to point B. This though can be done at wire speed in the
hardware of any
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NAT at the at a couple of towers, but not at the CPE.
On 10/11
All MT switching is junk.
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Mike Hammett duly noted,
Fred, I don't think most of the people here understand what YOU'RE
talking about. They think a switch is just a switch and they're all
the same, but that's far from the truth.
Probably true, which is why I'd like to clarify it. Vendors who sell
primarily to ISPs
We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to
the customers router.
He have heard other wisp are using the Ubiquiti radio as a router.
Would like feed back why one would do this when it appears customers would
be double natted when they hook up their routers?
Or does
Very few customers know any difference.
On 10/11/2012 3:46 PM, Arthur Stephens wrote:
We currently use Ubiquitiradios in bridge mode and
assign a ip address to the customers router.
He have heard other wisp are using theUbiquitiradio as a
Almost all of my customers have NAT'ed Ubnt CPE radios. The handful that
need a static get charged for it (or free if business) and then I do the
port forwrading for them.
Josh Luthman
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On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at
We run Ubiquiti CPE in router mode and it acts as the NAT router for
the customer. We install a wifi router inside as part of standard
install package, but just run it as a switch+AP. This gives us more
visibility into customer network for troubleshooting and abuse
detection (why does this house
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Arthur Stephens
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 3:47 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode
We do it because it makes customer maintenance a lot easier. They can
replace/remove their router without having to call the office or
changing settings in their computer or router, everything comes with
DHCP enabled default. There are very few places where the customer will
ever know. If
We run MT, not UBNT, CPE, but it doesn't matter what brand it is. We run
them in as routers, but do not NAT. Same benefits others mentioned for
routing, just one fewer NAT. Never have a problem with it this way and
can't see any good reason to NAT there.
On 10/11/2012 3:46 PM, Arthur
I did this for the first time last week. It seems to work fine.
On 10/11/2012 12:46 PM, Arthur Stephens
wrote:
We currently use Ubiquitiradios in bridge mode and
assign a ip address to the customers router.
He have heard other wisp are using
Not sure I under stand the no-NAT, so every device on the other side of
the CPE has it's own public IP?
On 10/11/2012 4:53 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
We run MT, not UBNT, CPE, but it doesn't matter what brand it is. We
run them in as routers, but do not NAT. Same benefits others
mentioned for
At 10/11/2012 06:52 PM, SamT wrote:
Not sure I under stand the no-NAT, so every device on the other side
of the CPE has it's own public IP?
There could be one NAT, at the access point.
My taste, which to be sure I haven't tested at scale in a wireless
network (but plan to), is to follow what
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 7:35:53 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
At 10/11/2012 06:52 PM, SamT wrote:
Not sure I under stand
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