Forrest, let me get back to the very old conversation about why WISPA should
organized at least 1500 filings to the FCC by every WISP they could get to
act, to say This cannot be done.
Before they even bothered to read half of them, the FCC would have been in
the process of asking INDUSTRY how
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From: Forrest W Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade
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From: Forrest W Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 10:28 PM
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Forrest, let me get back to the very old conversation about why
WISPA should organized at least 1500 filings to the FCC by every
WISP they could get to act, to say This cannot be done.
Your fears are unfounded and not based in reality. I
I overheard a WLAN engineer recently call Meraki an embarassment to
wi-fi. I was little suprised, as I've heard decent things about it,
considering how scalable it is for being a product that's easy for the
masses to implement.
Is there something I'm not getting? I've heard that the units
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Forrest, let me get back to the very old conversation about why WISPA should
organized at least 1500 filings to the FCC by every WISP they could get to
act, to say This cannot be done.
Before they even bothered to read half of them, the
Mark,
How do you connect the cpu board to the wireless devices?
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:32 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change- Trade
I object to this. Here is an example of what I have done regarding my
interactions with the FCC in the last year:
I was on a conference call with several ranking members of the FCC about a
year ago. One of the people on the call was the head of enforcement in DC. I
had recently purchased a pair
I see how reporting helps, but I fail to see how CALEA helps us.
--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:06 PM
I see the value in reporting. I see the value in what WISPA did after CALEA
was a requirement. I don't see the value in CALEA itself.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA
I overheard a WLAN engineer recently call Meraki an embarassment to
wi-fi. I was little suprised, as I've heard decent things about it,
considering how scalable it is for being a product that's easy for the
masses to implement.
Is there something I'm not getting? I've heard that the units
Since there's only a couple home brew systems left, I'm going to perhaps
incorrectly assume Mikrotik. Mikrotik itself has a CALEA sniffer, so you
could even do it on the CPE, in software, no extra hardware required.
--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
I have 25 brand new, still in box 5.2 SMs, not Advantage, that have been
sitting on the shelf too long.
Would anyone be interested, I'll throw in free shipping.
Hit me offline.
--
John M. McDowell
Boonlink Communications
307 Grand Ave NW
Fort Payne, AL 35967
256.844.9932
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Because you are not a cop.
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From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was:
Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking
I see the value in
The main argument is that they had a nice scalable open(able) platform when
they had the $49 Minis. They enticed everyone to get on board with a
pretty interface. Then they took the standard Mini and put advertising on
it, forcing you to either upgrade or stop using it. Now they are big, the
Like it should be, snapped in.
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From: Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topicchange- Trade
This is where I am sadly going to post to you sometime in the near future...
I told you so.
And that will be the saddest day for all of us.
I have no unfounded fears. I just read and understand precisely what
these things mean. It won't be the first one, it won't be the second one.
It may
I AM a telephone company and I am a WISP and I have participated in lawful
intercepts of data and call information on multiple occasions.
You are paranoid. Cops just want the best you can give them as quick as you
can give it to them. If you get stupid with them, then maybe you will have
Don't you protect your NOC Muddy? My NOC is already locked and I pay $30 a
month for alarm service. I have been doing that for 6 years already. I also
have a camera system which monitors the front door and stores all the video
of entry and exit to my NOC. I did this prior to CALEA because I want
Please don't get into this... We all know where this conversation leads...
We've seen it so many times before...
Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78 Centennial Loop
Suite E
Eugene, OR 97401
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
http://www.unwiredwest.com
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From: Chuck McCown [EMAIL
I've been told the same thing off-the-record by FBI personnel. My guess is
that they will be more insistent on CALEA compliance as time goes on though.
Still wonder what they do with encrypted traffic though...
Jeff
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Can we please kill this thread, nothing new has been said in it in the
last three days (or year...), its redundant and repetitive.
Ryan
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Ryan Langseth
System Administrator
InvisiMax
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: 218.745.6030
Cell: 701.739.1577
As some of you may (or may not) know, we used to organize large trade shows
several years ago...at its height, WiNOG had over 500+ attendees with 50+
exhibiting sponsors (I still have pictures of Rick Harnish and Mac Dearman @
the inaugural WISPA meeting in Chicago almost 3+ years ago =)
In
We have seen enough hashing of this topic. Now it is getting personal.
Thread Closed.
Mike Delp
(New Moderator)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ryan Langseth
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re:
I would probably go.
Brian
Charles Wu wrote:
As some of you may (or may not) know, we used to organize large trade shows
several years ago...at its height, WiNOG had over 500+ attendees with 50+
exhibiting sponsors (I still have pictures of Rick Harnish and Mac Dearman @
the inaugural
I'd go
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I would probably go.
Brian
Charles Wu wrote:
As some of you may (or may not) know, we used to organize large trade
shows several years ago...at its height, WiNOG had over 500+ attendees with
50+
OK, Whats the correct way to intercept IP communications, then?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic
Actually...if you're willing to accept Class B status under Part 101, you can
even get a 2' in 11 GHz
NOTE: Class B is still MILES ahead of anything unlicensed
-Charles
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Coming to a City Near You
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Could you please elaborate about a Class B? This is new to me.
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From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave antenna pattern for RM
Actually...if you're willing to
This sounds like a worthwhile project, and would fill a void. Chicago is an
awesome venue.
Ah the days of the Boudreaux's butt cream ceremony.
;)
Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Charles Wu
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:20 PM
You know, I think there are three very different issues here.
1) Is one in favor of Calea.
2) Regardless, Calea is Law. How will WISPs best deal with Compliance?
3) What did WISPA do to help WISPs solve this problem?
#1 is something we can go on forever debating. There are many WISPs that are
To summarize, it details to the amount of interference you are willing to
accept on your system
That said, for standard operations in Part 101, due to the fact that the
rules were written back in the early 90s for analogue microwave systems, the
interference threshold of a licensed system can
Then I agree.
--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association
Thanks. at 18 GHz, a Class B should be fine.
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From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave antenna pattern for RM
To summarize, it details to the amount of
Nice...
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Thoughts on WiNOG in Chicago (Big Show this
I've got an old Aeras networks ptp radio I picked up.
Anybody with experience with these want to chat offline?
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John M. McDowell
Boonlink Communications
307 Grand Ave NW
Fort Payne, AL 35967
256.844.9932
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.boonlink.com
This message contains information which may be
Do you have one or two?
Rick Harnish
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John McDowell
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:56 PM
To: WISPA General List; wisp; Motorola Canopy User Group
Subject: [WISPA] Aeras Networks WaveLink 4500
I've got an
two
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Do you have one or two?
Rick Harnish
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John McDowell
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:56 PM
To: WISPA General List; wisp;
I had one link that was 18 miles with 3' dishes for about 9 months. Aeras
went out of business about the same time one of the ends took a lightning
strike and I never got it repaired. This was back in 2004 I think. I do
remember we would lose the link occasionally on days where we got a
OH my, I look so young! I probably need that butt paste more today than I
Mac needed back then! That one is going to cost ya WuWu!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Charles Wu
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Hey all Mikrotik gurus. Is it possible to pull 40meg+ through an RB532 with
NAT'ing (masquerade) turned on? Total of 3 in-house systems running through
this one - not a lot going on with it - but I'm having trouble pulling much
more than 10 through it. Have narrowed it down to the 532 I've got
Dear Members and NonMembers:
For those that may be filing comment on the Form 477 NPRM, please be
reminded that comments on the Section IV(B), which seeks comment on the
adoption of a national broadband mapping program and the Commission's
tentative conclusion that the Commission collect
Reader- Who are you, really??
Rick
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Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:44 AM
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Was:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web
kinda a cool domain name...
Mark, what is the origin of the name Kostenmaki?
ryan
%whois muddyfrogwater.us
Domain Name: MUDDYFROGWATER.US
Domain ID: D6645077-US
Sponsoring Registrar:GODADDY.COM, INC.
Finnish.
If you think Germans are stubborn, you never met a Finn :)
Muddy Frogwater is an annual local festive event which occurs in August, and
the city of Milton Freewater, Or has myriad year round references to Muddy
Frogwater - which happens to be a nickname assigned to the city by bored
I'm going to ask that we oppose this in its entirety, due to it giving away
information we really don't need given away.
Whatever your take... please file. ... something.
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From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL
This is an excerpt from a comment filed by a state representative from
Kansas:
As a state policy-maker attempting to develop incentives that will induce
broadband
providers (particularly the larger DSL and cable companies) to use multiple
technologies
to reach beyond city limits, FCC data
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