Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-21 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE
Hi Forbes... YOu can also look at the connectors on the cable you might want to try and put new ones on there. Also, did you try a different POE injector at the tower? Let us know what you come up with. Leon * Forbes Mercy wrote, On 1/20/2009 7:33 PM: Hi Forbes A few

Re: [WISPA] Billboard Contact Info

2009-01-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Although there's not any that are of immediate help to me, I'm sure there are for others and options are always good! How are they in line of ease to work with\pricing... are they an American Tower or are they a Frosty Towers? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Batteries won't last more then a few hours. Our NOC uses 300 watts and we have a 2200va UP - about 1h 15h run time until generators come into play. On 1/21/09, George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net wrote: Don't you have battery back ups? Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Looks pretty normal around

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Yeah. But they don't last forever. I've also found that they drain faster than they charge too. Right now I have rolling power outages in at least 4 towns spread out by a good 80 miles via road. The power is on, then off then on then off. It's not like I can just got to town A and fire up a

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread Josh Luthman
The last peak was around noon yesterday, give or take a couple of hours. Not the biggest peak but obviously higher then average! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread os10rules
You could use a real inverter which has a higher capacity charger built in (much faster recovery time). Another advantage of an inverter is the batteries are sold separately so you can size them accordingly. You could have much longer run time on the batteries. Though having lead acid

[WISPA] The best Power Supplies/UPS are...

2009-01-21 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi All, I was wondering what is the best power supply/UPS that you have in your sites. I am talking about something that can accept from 50AC to 300AC, and convert it to a -48DC or something like that. I know that my request can sound strange, and everybody is wondering why don't you use

Re: [WISPA] The best Power Supplies/UPS are...

2009-01-21 Thread Josh Luthman
If I were in that position I would contact Bruce Good at Tessco. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Paolo Di

[WISPA] nanostation 5 and WDS question.

2009-01-21 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
all, Working with my first NS5 and have run into a problem that is more due to my limited WDS experience, than the equipment itsellf. When I set up the NS5 as a WDS client to one of my AP, then plugged a simple AP into the NS5 to create a remote repeater. Everything works fine, in that, my

Re: [WISPA] nanostation 5 and WDS question.

2009-01-21 Thread Alan Long
Do you have the ns5 in bridge mode, and have it assigned an ip address in the same subnet of the wds ap it is attached? Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile:

Re: [WISPA] nanostation 5 and WDS question.

2009-01-21 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I have a number of NS5's in WDS mode and they can be accessed from anyplace on the network. Are you using static or dhcp for the NS5? I use static. On 1/21/09, rabbtux rabbtux rabb...@gmail.com wrote: all, Working with my first NS5 and have run into a problem that is more due to my limited

Re: [WISPA] nanostation 5 and WDS question.

2009-01-21 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
Yes. the master AP is n.n.125.x and the WDS bridged NS5 is n.n.125.100. On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net wrote: Do you have the ns5 in bridge mode, and have it assigned an ip address in the same subnet of the wds ap it is attached?

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread jp
I like the tripplite APS 700hf/750/1250 gear. We've got sites with 2 big batteries that should be good for 24 hours with these. I put one at my house after going through 2 APC UPSs in 8 years. We put them everywhere we need long run time, and add batteries for places where it's impractical to

Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-21 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi Forbes, good news and bad news. Let me start with the good news. You are not alone! The bad news is the same of the good news, lately, we are having a lot of problems on the ethernet. It looks like the ethernet port has a lower speed (like 200Kbps) or that you cannot even log in it. Does it

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread George Rogato
You can buy inexpensive ups and use them. It's pretty windy here on the Oregon Coast, trees are always blowing over or limbs falling, so flickering lights is not uncommon. Not every power outage last for 10 hours. Most happen for a couple of hours. Or the lights flicker. Lights flickering is

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread Mark Nash
I have several APC SU700NET UPS systems in place that we've taken out the internal batteries and put in marine batteries on the floor. Depending on what equipment it's powering, you can get 18-36 hours out of 2 batteries. We also install a AP9617 SNMP card, that emails us of power events. We

Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-21 Thread eje
Consider the volume we sell I will have to disagree. We see no more RMA rate now then a year or two ago and in fact less then some manufacturers estimate about 1 to 2% rma rate. Consider how they grown and managed to get price down I'm surprised its not more/higher. /Eje Sent via

Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Who RMAs a $100 board??? On 1/21/09, e...@wisp-router.com e...@wisp-router.com wrote: Consider the volume we sell I will have to disagree. We see no more RMA rate now then a year or two ago and in fact less then some manufacturers estimate about 1 to 2% rma rate. Consider how they grown and

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread Nathan Stooke
Hello, We do the same thing. Some with 1 battery and other with 4. No more generators!! We had our fun with them a few years back. Had 7 of them running our towers. Got great praise from our customers for keep them network running for 4 days in ice, but killed us filling up

Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-21 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi Josh, to be honest the 4xx are giving us problems. We have a lot of boards with strange behaviors, I have a desk full of suspected of..., probably does not do this or that. I cannot tell you if the 5xx (e.g. 532) series were worse. We still have some 532/532A installed with 2.9.x and they

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Yeah, those are cool. Inverters have a high price power wise though. I do a free hotspot for a large desert race every year. With an inverter I can run the system for about a day, maybe a little more, on a good marine battery. When I run direct to the devices with 12vdc I can run an easy 2

Re: [WISPA] The best Power Supplies/UPS are...

2009-01-21 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I've been thinking about running regular batteries with inverters for quite a while. I'd run a separate battery charger for them (totally isolating the power to the devices from the grid) though. No combo units. I still might do that. I'm also thinking of getting some of those 12vdc computer

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I wondered about just swapping out the batteries on my APC units and instead hooking the units to bigger batteries. My fear is that the chargers won't hold up to long charge times that would be needed for a big marine battery instead of a little exit light battery Thoughts? Anyone

Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-21 Thread Josh Luthman
The 333 board sucked. That simple. I have dozens of customers with RB411 CPEs and our power is pretty good - never had to reboot the CPE for the last 6 months (we started deploying them 6 months ago). The 133 did have that power problem and I saw it many times, however, a $50 UPS can fix that.

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
Mark, APC SU700NET UPS We currenly have been using Triplite inverters that do about 3500watt with 48V battery chains, for years. They work great, but all these units put out pulse modulated wave (modified sine wave) and do not provide smart remote monitoring via SNMP or WEB cards. As you

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Use the APC Smart-UPS XL series. They have an external battery connector and a charger designed to handle large external battery banks. You can also update the configuration value for the capacity of the external battery packs so that the UPS runtime calculation (for SNMP/email alerts) is

Re: [WISPA] nanostation 5 and WDS question.

2009-01-21 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
Just upgraded software from 2.2.x to 3.3.1 and now all works! On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:14 AM, rabbtux rabbtux rabb...@gmail.com wrote: all, Working with my first NS5 and have run into a problem that is more due to my limited WDS experience, than the equipment itsellf. When I set up the

Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-21 Thread Blair Davis
I do. Josh Luthman wrote: Who RMAs a $100 board??? On 1/21/09, e...@wisp-router.com e...@wisp-router.com wrote: Consider the volume we sell I will have to disagree. We see no more RMA rate now then a year or two ago and in fact less then some manufacturers estimate about 1 to 2%

Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-21 Thread Blair Davis
You are not alone! I've use a 48VDC to 15VDC converter in my boxes. All my tower gear is 48VDC and staying that way. Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Another thing is that I still don't understand why the power supply is not 48VDC as most of the telco world. It would have simplified many things

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
Thats why we liked the triplite inverters. They had a 33amp charging circuit (required 40 amp breaker), and the charge voltage varied based on the type of battery. This was my fear with using Smart Ups. They were designed for lead acid batteries, which have different characteristics than Gel

Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
What 48V to 15 V converters do you use? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Blair Davis To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness You are

[WISPA] UBNT Bullet5 review...

2009-01-21 Thread reader
I deployed my first Bullet5 today. Not the high power, but the standard. throughput testing showed insignificant difference between my Star-OS/WAR1 combo and the Bullet. The AP shows that the Bullet has active compression and fast frames that functions with my star-os access point. I have

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Here's what we just started using: APC Smart-UPS 1000 XL - $500 APC XL Ultra Battery Pack 24V - UXBP24 - $500 APC Management Card - $200 The downside to this is that it isn't a rackmount solution. The external battery pack is BIG as it houses four car battery-sized batteries. These are

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yep, thats a good solution for 300w load. But we are looking for handling much larger loads. We use the CD 150AH 12V batteries, which are about $330 each, which we usually stack 4 in series for 48V. In theory our PC routers don't draw much current, for average basic operation, but they are

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Redline AN80i with SINADR spikes

2009-01-21 Thread Josh Luthman
When it was happening to my AN50s it was interference. Did you scan the band with your AN80s to see what was free? Also keep in mind you can call Redline 24/7 and get very good support. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread John Valenti
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=UXBP24 says Battery Volt-Amp-Hour Capacity is 3360 (divide by 24?) On Jan 21, 2009, at 7:49 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Do you know how many AmpHours (Ah) the APC XL Ultra Battery pack is spec'd at?

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Redline AN80i with SINADR spikes

2009-01-21 Thread John McDowell
It's a 5.4 link that one end is attached to a water tank. Do u think it could be reflection? Oh I know. Redline is great. I will bug them if I don't find some answers here. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 21, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: When it

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread Gino Villarini
The bigger the ups the better charger it has, typically we use 1400 and 1500 units Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet5 review...

2009-01-21 Thread Jerry Richardson
All I can do is shake my head. Ubiquity seems to have acquired some Area51 technology. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread Leroy
Gino, What batteries are you using? I've seen posts of your UPS setup in the past, very nice. Leroy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:28 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread Gino Villarini
AGM cells 105 ah with APC SmartUPS XL units Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Leroy Sent: Wednesday, January

Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet5 review...

2009-01-21 Thread Travis Johnson
The problem will be that they are still plain 802.11 technology. There is no polling or ARQ or FEC or anything else that makes technology like Trango, Canopy and others work so well. We pulled all of our 802.11 stuff down over 5 years ago. It does NOT scale. You will never get an AP with

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-21 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I just bought some today for one of our bigger tower sites. We will install four of these connected to an APC SmartUps 1400 and will probably get 30+ hours of uptime (this site has multiple switches, routers, point to point links, licensed links, rebooter and over 10 AP's).

Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet5 review...

2009-01-21 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Sorry Travis, but you are dead wrong about 802.11 not being able to scale beyond 20 users, especially with 802.11a. I explained how it can be done to you before and I have consulting clients with 10,000 plus users on their 802.11 based networks scaling right up to the same size as any Canopy

Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet5 review...

2009-01-21 Thread Jerry Richardson
But for micropops it sure makes sense. Screw it into the bottom of an omni and presto! __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson

Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet5 review...

2009-01-21 Thread Travis Johnson
Matt, I know we have already discussed this several times, and I'm not sure we need to do it again... but maybe you could explain how you could have setup a plain 802.11g wireless AP so that each client (using all different kinds of wireless adapters) could have gotten equal bandwidth and

Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet5 review...

2009-01-21 Thread Chuck Hogg
The cheapest I have ever seen large bulk distributor pricing with buyback money is a little over $200 per SM except 900Mhz. Now, if you are looking at the Lite version SM's they certainly can be had for cheaper. All these WISPs claiming cheaper price is not telling the truth. Even Motorola

Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet5 review...

2009-01-21 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I can tell you right now I have a written quote from a distributor/reseller for quantity 200 radios at less than $200 each. The other company I was speaking about is doing 1,000 installs per month. $160 per radio is the number I have heard (and seems reasonable based on that quantity

Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet5 review...

2009-01-21 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Not much will get accomplished on this list...there are ways, but that's for members. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org