Last one out turn off the light.
LOL
That was classic! Tnx Blake
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-Original Message-
From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:54:01
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
And
* Jerry Richardson wrote, On 8/4/2008 3:44 PM:
Is it possible to get an injunction against a HAM if he moved to a
900MHz frequency as is causing interference that would disrupt our
ability to do business? I know he has a license and I don't however
there must be some precedent that allows for
KD4RME if you were KA4RME you might have a different perspective.
Katrina proves the worth of ham radio. Give me a 20 and 40 meter rig, and I
will never ever be out of communication irrespective of where you place me
on the planet. NO OTHER communications medium can make that claim.
Everyone
Ok. You can have 20 and 40 meters. Give up the Vhf and Uhf.
It goes back to all licenseesuse it or loose it
Bob
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-Original Message-
From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:34:03
To: WISPA General
Chuck - why would that make a bit of difference? KD versus KA?
I never said ham radio is useless, I just said its dying. The homebrew
activity is just a shadow of what it used to be. Most of the traffic on
any of the bands will put you to sleep.
And I would take issue with your claim that no
You should be able to add +c to the username and it will disable colors,
+t will disable terminal detection. So the default username would be
admin+ct with its normal password.
Be prepared for several other things to break. Things moved around
again in version 3.
Sam Tetherow
Marlon, thanks for that, very helpful.
I notice you don't mention half and quarter size channels as another
solution. Is that something you've thought about?
I just started with 2.4 gear last year (StarOS), so I've generally
been using cloaking from the beginning. I think it has helped me
A KA has been a ham longer than a KD.
(assuming it is not a vanity call sign)
Long time hams have more passion for the subject.
But really, I agree with almost everything said. Ham really has been dying
for a very long time.
I just get bent when some WISPs take the entitlement attitude towards
Hi,
That fixed our problems. THANKS!
Travis
Microserv
Sam Tetherow wrote:
You should be able to add +c to the username and it will disable colors,
+t will disable terminal detection. So the default username would be
admin+ct with its normal password.
Be prepared for several other
i n l i n e . . .
Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
KD4RME if you were KA4RME you might have a different perspective.
Katrina proves the worth of ham radio. Give me a 20 and 40 meter rig, and I
will never ever be out of communication irrespective of where you place me
on the planet. NO OTHER
You make some good points, Chuck, but you are wrong about one thing: The
amateur ranks have been growing like mad since the archaic CW (Morse Code)
requirement was eliminated. Also, hams are still experimenting and
innovating like never before as is demonstrated by the tremendous growth of
SDR
First and foremost, talk to him. If you have, what's he said when you
explained what his actions are doing to you?
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Jerry Richardson
To: WISPA General List ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Motorola Canopy User Group
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 12:44 PM
But when 802.11 became easy it invited all the people to use it who
thought that 10 watt amps were a good idea too. Doesn't the more amateur
HAM users invite those who are less experienced to just crank up the power
rather than look at the engineering of their systems? Isn't removing a
That is good to hear. I was the president of my university ham club many
years ago. I let my license expire due to ignorance of the due date. I
have never bothered to renew it. I never made extra 'cause I couldn't do
one minute of perfect copy @ 20 wpm. I had some mistakes.
- Original
Well spoken Jack. If I had not earned my ham ticket almost 40 years ago, and
used it as a platform for endless home-brewing, I'd never have started this
company.
Tom Sharples
WA6HAS, ARRL, QCWA
Qorvus Systems, Inc.
- Original Message -
From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA
Nope. MOST people use full channels so that we have a choice of cpe to use.
Smaller channels are also relatively new. Some of us have networks that are
nearly a decade old now. grin
You are right though, that's one way to help sneak into small empty places
in the band.
marlon
-
Ditto. My first transmitter (home built, toilet paper tube for coil form)
was a hartley VCO connected to an antenna. Was so unstable that it sounded
like wandering fsk.
- Original Message -
From: Tom Sharples [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday,
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, Sam Tetherow wrote:
You should be able to add +c to the username and it will disable
colors, +t will disable terminal detection. So the default
username would be admin+ct with its normal password.
As much as I use the console, I never knew this little gem. GREAT
As of about 10:30pm tonight, we have both towers up and running.
Thanks to Dave Rumore, Mike and Bob from Defacto, CTI, Dave East, and
Alliance.
We were able to pick up two Redline links from Alliance in Atlanta through
DeFacto Wireless and replace them with the bad ones this evening. Everything
Thanks to Harold from Ligowave and Brian from LMG for the willingness as
well!
:-)
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:44 PM, John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As of about 10:30pm tonight, we have both towers up and running.
Thanks to Dave Rumore, Mike and Bob from Defacto, CTI, Dave East, and
Comments inline
insert witty tagline here
- Original Message -
From: Doug Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
But when 802.11 became easy it
Removing a barrier is the only hope that HAM radio
has.
Come on, in the 50's 60's, 70's CW was still cool, and
we could introduce youth into talking to far away places
on HF.
Now, with technology being what it is, the Internet has
removed all kewlness of HF. Look at the average age
of HAMS,
The entry level code requirement and tech plus license
was created in 1991.
In 1997 there were 678,473 licensed
in 2001 there were 682,240 licensed
in 2008 there were 659,198 licensed.
Thats a decrease.
Even the FCC states that after the most recent license
changes eliminating the CW
That's a rather insignificant decrease of 2.8%. I'd say that's pretty
good over an 11-year period during which Internet use increased greatly.
A 2.8% decrease proves nothing and even if it did, anyone who thinks
that a 2.8% change gives one group new spectrum rights over a group that
already
It comes down to this.. Amateur Radio operators are licensed and Part 15
users are not. If you want to guarantee yourself minimal interference, then
you must use the licensed part of the RF spectrum. I do believe that hams
and part 15's can coexist with a little communication and the
Someone had mentioned on another list that ISM is above part 97 in 900 MHz.
--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
I have had to deal with a similar situation. I talked to the guy and told
him that he was causing interference in our network. I gave him a free
internet account and he only uses his radio one hour a week, with prior
notice.
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jerry,
As with all good legal questions, the answer is: It Depends.
If the HAM operator is INTENTIONALLY interfering with your signal, then you
have a very good chance of maintaining a cause of action against him (IMHO).
If on the other hand, he was unaware of your signal at the time that he put
Victoria,
That sounds like an excellent solution. I would hope that all WISPs
would follow your example.
jack
Victoria Proffer wrote:
I have had to deal with a similar situation. I talked to the guy and told
him that he was causing interference in our network. I gave him a free
internet
I determined the best course of action is to upgrade the antennas and
re-assign frequencies customer AP re-assignments.
900 is getting crowded and eventually I will likely have to abandon the
frequency. I'm not going to make a big stink about this one only to have
to deal with it again in six
Jerry,
From where you are located, I believe you are being hit by a new repeater on
Mt Diablo. It seems the HAMs were using another freq and it was interfering
with military operations. They kept reducing power til it was down to
nothing. They then decided to use 900 mhz, it is only going to
Having been in the commercial wireless industry since 1990 and a ham as
well, here are my perspectives on the state of ham radio today:
There has always been pressure on the hams for their spectrum, and always
will be as long as money is involved.
A decline in hamfests should not be the only way
Jack,
Don't get me wrong - I am not advocating any
relinquishing of spectrum from HAM use. I will
say that if we don't get more into the hobby, there
will be more and more pressure for the FCC to
reallocate spectrum, as they have in the past.
It may seem like a small drop, but when you figure
Best offer.
Thanks
--
John M. McDowell
Boonlink Communications
307 Grand Ave NW
Fort Payne, AL 35967
256.844.9932
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.boonlink.com
This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged.
Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the
They already added the bigger amp. They worked with me by trying to move
to 919 however it's too noisy for their purposes so they will be moving
back to 910. This will affect 906 and 915. 924 is virtually unusable so
things will be interesting.
I was just wondering if there was any legal
Can anyone comment on the potential performance increase of the MTI 120*
12.5dB H-POL sector vs the Canopy Integrated 60degree?
Specs are all pretty equal with the exception of the pattern. Seems with
narrower vertical I should see less ground scatter.
Jerry Richardson
VP Operations
I've seen it suggested several times and maybe I missed your reply but,
have you talked to him?
Brian
Jerry Richardson wrote:
I determined the best course of action is to upgrade the antennas and
re-assign frequencies customer AP re-assignments.
900 is getting crowded and eventually I will
I have both here in the shop but have never tested the two side by side.
I can try to run some tests with them if you want, but am not sure what
you would want tested or how.
- Matt
Jerry Richardson wrote:
Can anyone comment on the potential performance increase of the MTI 120*
12.5dB H-POL
Anyone on the list using Pathloss 4? Just trying to figure out if the money
is really worth it.
Thanks!
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/
Yes.
---
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Jerry Richardson
925-260-4119
Sent Mobile
-Original Message-
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:43 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
They tried another freq but its not working out. Basically their position is
that I am a guest, deal with it.
---
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Jerry Richardson
925-260-4119
Sent Mobile
-Original Message-
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday,
I'll be more than happy to sell you my copy =)
Uh...think that answers the question...
-Charles
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
We use it every day for running path profiles and microwave reliability
estimates for customers... I would say we definitely got our money's
worth.
John Seaman
Trango Broadband
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent:
I prefer RadioMobile.
- Original Message -
From: John Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pathloss 4
We use it every day for running path profiles and microwave reliability
estimates for
That's like saying that giving people drivers licenses who have no
experience driving a horse team is producing bad drivers. Some of the worst
hams I've encountered were old timers with great fists on a key. The CW
requirement never filtered out bad operators any more than rigid testing of
one's
Chuck, I hope you'll consider going after that Extra now. It's never too
late...
Rick
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
So I guess you, as a WISP, must be operating solely on licensed frequencies?
- Original Message -
From: Rick Fletcher, W7RAF [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
If a wireless ISP
Have to take the written again. I guess if I had a manual to bone up on the
freqs and regs and a test session close by... naw, too lazy.
- Original Message -
From: Rick Fletcher, W7RAF [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 6:16 PM
After a major change like dropping the CW requirement, it always takes a
while for the word to get out but that's finally happening. All the VE's
(Volunteer Examiners) I know across the country tell me that they've seen a
huge increase in testees and class attendees in the past 6-8 months, not
Not at all, but I do recognize my limited 'privileges' as an unlicensed
user. I also know how to mitigate many of the sources of interference I
encounter.
In the end, I went into this knowing that what I was doing was somewhat akin
to driving without insurance and the risk of operating
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Victoria Proffer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have had to deal with a similar situation. I talked to the guy and told
him that he was causing interference in our network. I gave him a free
internet account and he only uses his radio one hour a week, with prior
I have just acquired some Juniper router admin duties. I'm in need of doing
some one-to-one static NAT translations. Is there anyone out there that can
give me some guidance?
(Swapping out with a MT is not an option right now)
_
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33_centimeters#The_beginning
--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola
Canopy User
The industrial, scientific and medical (ISM) radio bands were originally
reserved internationally for the use of RF electromagnetic fields for
industrial, scientific and medical purposes other than communications.
So, other than communications were primary, then HAM, then Part -15. My 25
kW
By the way, we have been up there for 4 years - this HAM only recently
increased the power in the last three weeks.
What are they using the 900 band for? Voice, video or what? Are they
bleeding into any cell towers nearby with that much power? Is this a
small community?
Matt
Hi,
I would like to start a quick list of the wireless radio's available
today that have some type of polling system. Here are the ones I can
think of quickly... please add this list:
Canopy
Trango
Alvarion
Mikrotik
thanks,
Travis
Microserv
I currenty have a customer that is using Intellinet 550710 cameras, the
quality is acceptable and the cost is reasonable. The cameras have lifetime
warranties and interchangable lenses (wide angle, zoom, etc.) Motion
detection built in, however I use motion detection built into the camera
Outdoor rated?
How much power do they need?
- Original Message -
From: Joshua Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP based security system
I currenty have a customer that is using Intellinet 550710 cameras, the
Best quality outdoor-rated IP cams are the megapixel-sensor units made by
Mobotix. We use them in our installations whenever possible. They are
expensive, but well worth it - one Mobotix cam can do the work of 4
ordinary ones. You can see the image quality on our website, and you can buy
them
I was in the process of registering a location in preparation to run a
licensed 3.65 ghz link. In fact, I wanted to run 3 of them from the same
site. That can be done by using 5 mhz channels, and at this time, that
would be sufficient bandwidth...
But no. At 5 mhz bandwidth, I can't have
I've always been impressed by the webcams that Borealis Broadband has
in Anchorage.
http://www.borealisbroadband.net/webcams.htm
It looks like those are Mobotix.
When you say expensive, can you give some sample prices. (there
is a link off to a vendor on URL above, they seem to start at
LOL, not. They would all have to have Hams and be in my service area...
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:19 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Victoria Proffer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have had to deal with a similar situation. I talked to the guy and
told
him
Daniel, Most professionals use Pathloss. Most if not all commercial
carriers use Pathloss I've been engineering Paths for 8 years and swear by
it. Its worth it Knowing how to use it properly is priceless.
I'm not in here much any more because some of the members like to go
Thanks Mikey... I know most of licensed link companies use it, but looking a
that $4k price tag makes me really want to think twice about it!
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of MichaelDavidLake
Sent: Wednesday,
What can it do that Radio Mobile does not?
I have been engineering microwave paths since 1978. Back in the day it was
curved path profile paper and counting elevation lines on a topo map. I
have used about a half dozen software products over the years, including the
original on line version
Chuck,
I am probably one of the biggest supporters of Radio Mobile, love the
software and agree with you. What Radio Mobile does not do well is things
like reliability factors for hot standby and if you build in diversity
antennas. For most WISP's this is not an issue. To that end, Radio
Most of the tools use the old ATT long lines long haul and short haul
availbility factors that were generated for analog radios.
It is the opinion of some that digital radios do not need to need nearly as
much fade margin as the old analogs.
I would have to say, that our experience with some 60
Anything that's WiMAX
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:59 PM
To: [EMAIL
I don't know the answer to that question. I have always pondered the issue
of fade margin on digital paths. If you factor in an error checking in both
the modulation methods and the TCPIP stack, you can deal with minor fades
and in many cases you might not even notice a short fade. At that point
I'll take a copy of your excel file Charles.
;-)
- Original Message -
From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pathloss 4
Hi Michael,
All Pathloss basically does is calculate
Bah...
You're supposed to be the creative, inquisitive one Chuck =)
In all honesty, we've been making some internal changes to accommodate nLoS
(specifically, knife-edge and a few others) -- wanna be as nifty and cool as
the Orthogon calculator...when that's done, I'll be sure to send it over
Anyone need a tower?
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Joe Rudi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:53 AM
Subject: [TowerTalk] Fw: BIG TOWER SALE
I am down sizing at my new location and now have over 500 feet of well
pictures??
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Anyone need a tower?
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Joe Rudi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:53 AM
Subject: [TowerTalk]
I can't speak to Pathloss as I have not used it, but I will agree that
RM is pretty accurate. It comes down to the accuacy and attention to
detail.
Garbage in = garbage out.
__
Jerry Richardson
airCloud Communications
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL
List prices range from $795 to around $1500, depending on whether they are
single or dual lens (day / night) and the output resolution. We mostly use
the m22 it or the m22 sec, which range from $795 to $995. You can find some
discounts, but there's not a lot of margin in these products.
Tom S.
ATT http://www.att.com may look to WiMAX to provide broadband in
rural markets http://www.wimaxforum.org/technology/, according to
their CTO John Donovan. “WiMAX could come in handy in some U.S. markets,
particularly rural areas where it's becoming prohibitively expensive to
maintain copper,”
And we all are spending our dollars to promote broadband in our areas.
Problem is that there is already a WISP in Ripley that has been struggling
and now!
Thanks USDA Does the USDA know what do with there monies?
Reedy
WV Public Records
WV Arrests
West Virginia Record
WV Divorces
Anyone can apply for a rural broadband grant from the RUS. The RUS has a
person assigned to each geographical area called a GFR (government field
rep) and the GFR is supposed to investigate the area to make sure it is
unserved prior to awarding a grant. We have seen several companies pull the
ICANN aims to raise awareness of critical Internet security issue...
http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-06aug08-en.htm
--
Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
Cisco Press Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs
Chuck,
They have outdoor enclosures for the outside located cameras, they are POE
48V. The mpeg4 are POE 48V 802.3af, which a nice midspan switch will power up
to 8 of them. They have several models of cameras.
They have more information on their site: www.networkipcamera.com or I'd be
glad to
Many of you have heard about the DNS problem facing the Internet.
If you haven't, I have posted some links to my blog that you should
read immediately. Even if you think you are safe, it is important
to look at BOTH test sites to ensure you are ready. I am far from
being an alarmist, but
Looks like the pipe is filling with options. In July Redline received new
FCC approvals, as did Airspan, Aperto (6/30), Ubiquity, Solectek and
Axxcelera. Ubiquity also received a 3.65 GHz operator license, presummably
for testing. That's a smart move on their part and one wonders why more
vendors
I'm in there. Even have my paper license in the file...
Put in a site registration a few days ago...
insert witty tagline here
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday,
Hi,
For anyone that would like to see the Mikrotik Nstreme protocol
re-designed to support more than 30 clients (their new
recommendation), and have lower, consistent latency, please email them
directly and let them know ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). They claim they are
listening to customer requests
I understand the principle of harmonic frequencies, but in this case I'm not
sure about the application...
I've got a Canopy SM mounted to the control building of a 1000ft
communications tower. SM has odd jitter/spectrum analysis readings. Tower
engineers claim nothing on the tower is operating
With that much power on UHF TV a rusty nail in a fence could be mixing that
channel with some other broadcast frequency and making a signal on your
frequency. Anything is possible when you get close to high power RF. Can
you drive a quarter mile away and get a good signal? Try to see if the
Honestly haven't put that much work into it (well its really not my problem
anymore, but the techs still call me with the weirder ones). Just get a
truck roll out there every six months or so. I think the techs are
primarily replacing the radios... maybe the radios are going deaf?
The SM shows
Could also be something traveling down your cat5 into the unit and creating
havoc.
These types of problems are more likely at high powered sites than harmonics.
Try another unit if possible. Verify good grounding and bonding practices.
Good luck
Bob
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
Good luck. We fought this fight last year. First they said the problem
didn't exist. So, we sent supouts and posted tests to the forum until we
were blue in the face. Then they said we didn't have the settings correct
but refused to give us the settings that works. So, we tested with every
I contacted MT support, since I've had this issue. In our dialog, they said
they are working on something, but it's too soon to tell when it'll be done,
if at all possible.
I soon will be evaluating other options.
--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
They have worked with Trango in the past. You'd think they'd license
Trango's polling scheme since Trango is no longer in the PtMP business.
I contacted MT support, since I've had this issue. In our dialog, they
said
they are working on something, but it's too soon to tell when it'll be
Did I miss some sort of announcement from Trango about not being
in the PtMP business any longer? Can you elaborate?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:21 AM
To: WISPA General List
What other options are you looking at?
Travis
Microserv
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They have worked with Trango in the past. You'd think they'd license
Trango's polling scheme since Trango is no longer in the PtMP business.
I contacted MT support, since I've had this issue. In
We're still in the PtMP business. It's just that we don't have any new
PtMP products to release. M5830, M5580. M900, M2400 are still alive and
well.
John
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Larry A Weidig
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 6:29
But no plans to upgrade firmware. Sounds dead in the water to me.
Especially after two failed releases of the new PtMP gear.
We're still in the PtMP business. It's just that we don't have any new
PtMP products to release. M5830, M5580. M900, M2400 are still alive and
well.
John
Chuck,
That was neither neighborly nor a nice comment to make from one vendor to
another. If you have a question - I am sure John would be glad to reply, but
that bad tasting comment is not appreciated by anyone who would bother to
read your posts. Please try to use a little more tact when
Which Chuck are you addressing here?
- Original Message -
From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
Chuck,
That was neither neighborly nor a nice comment to make from one
Chuck and gang,
I apologize for my last post (especially to you Chuck) since that was
supposed to have been off list.
It was my bad and I sincerely apologize to all!
Mac
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent:
I may have gotten my Chucks mixed up :-)
Who is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mac
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 1:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
Which Chuck
No such address. Beehive vs Believe.
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From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
I may have gotten my Chucks mixed up :-)
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Mac
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