Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-29 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Personally, I really wonder if it is possible to have 10 bits/HZ that a 60 Mbps channel in 6 MHz would have. 8VSB of HDTV was pretty advanced when it was originally proffered as a standard. It does 19.2 Mbps in a 6 MHz channel. Or approx 3 bits / Hz. That seems to be the upper limit of many syst

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-03 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Hmmm, didn't realize flipping houses was an ethical gray area... (gosh, buy a distressed property, gut and redo the kitchen and bathroom, give it some landscaping- and make some dough. That is unethical? You know some of the original colonies of the new world had rules against charging interest

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-03 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
ook > pretty sharp as well. I know the roughnecks around here poured some > serious money into those holes they punched in the ground. I think they > are pumping plenty of dollars back out now. > > chris > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EM

Re: [WISPA] RB333 heat

2008-07-03 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Once upon a time, a man said that hell was full so they sent him to St. Geo. - Original Message - From: "Randy Cosby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333 heat > Ow, definitely don't want to install those here in

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-03 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
n 3.65Ghz and CBP >A lot of times, flipping a house is nothing more than putting on a fresh > coat of paint. > > > -- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
What is your opinion about the greatness of WiMax based upon? - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP >I believe that WiMax is great... greate

Re: [WISPA] solar equipment / partners?

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I have been doing solar powered radio sites for 25 years. I will never do one where commercial power is available. Not sure how folks buying panels at $5/watt can think this is a good deal compared with 7 cents per 1000 watts. - Original Message - From: "Rogelio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> T

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
ng we need to get up to speed with > the rest of the world on what has been accepted as the standard for > broadband delivery over wireless in 3.4 thru 3.8 GHz bandspace. > Scriv > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Chuck McCown - 3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I do not think that is in conflict with what you have deployed. Is > Motorola planning to deploy a system for 3.65 GHz? I have not heard > anything about that. > Scriv > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Canopy

Re: [WISPA] solar equipment / partners?

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
re paying about $.30 > > gino > > -Original Message- > From: Chuck McCown - 3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar equipment / partners? > >

Re: [WISPA] solar equipment / partners?

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
; actively looking for options > > > gino > > -Original Message- > From: Chuck McCown - 3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 2:28 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar equipment / partners? > > Do you go solar where th

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
eir feedback? > > I could only see canopy 400 working on this bandthey could also port > their wimax solution but thats a different price range > > gino > > -Original Message- > From: Chuck McCown - 3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
3.65Ghz and CBP > It does mine. > > Inflating the price of a needed commodity - that is, increasing it with no > added value - is unethical, in my estimation. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Chu

Re: [WISPA] solar equipment / partners?

2008-07-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
lieve once production ramps up, the panels will be $1/watt. > > > -- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] solar equipment / partners?

2008-07-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
amps up, the panels will be $1/watt. > > > -- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WIS

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
er out > might be considered not-acceptable ("unethical") by others. > > Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: >> Then I guess the precludes any participation in any mutual fund or almost >> any type of broker investments. >> Oh well... >> - Original Message - &

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
ce. How you confuse this with normal buy/sell of real things and/or > ownership of entities, I am not sure. > > > ++++++++ > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
gt; building businesses solely for the purpose of selling it, nor about > speculators who use leveraged debt to drive up the price of consumer > commodities for no added value. > > > ++++++++ > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck Mc

Re: [WISPA] Wall Bracket

2008-07-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Steel strap iron or Unistrut. Unistrut has lots of brackets and fasteners but would not look as nice IMHO as a custom made strap steel unit. You could always buy the 36 incher and have someone extend it. Yes, it will lose some galvanizing but gray/silver paint will make up for the loss.

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-06 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
ke Hammett" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Increased spectral efficiency >> Advanced antenna support (the only benefit I understand is increased >> signal >> margin) >> Higher likelihood of multiple vendors vs. many previous BWA technologies, >>

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-06 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I totally agree. I am planning to deploy 3.65 in this area and will be one of the first if not the first. If there is a plethora of real life experience with this band with the existing products, I am all ears. But so far, I don't know of any actual "WiMax" 802.16d or e equipment deployments

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-06 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
ps > at > the lowest modulation. > > We plan to go live with the product this month... As soon as we get our > routing situation fixed. > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> I totally agree. I am planning to dep

Re: [WISPA] POE

2008-07-06 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
E rate purchases have to be approved 1-2 years ahead at times. They ask for more than they need in many cases since they are not the ones paying the bill. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:29 PM Subject: [WISPA] POE > Can someone explain

Re: [WISPA] Streamlined DC Powered System

2008-07-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Yes. What specifically are you needing to source. We built our own. - Original Message - From: "John McDowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Motorola Canopy User Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 4:45 AM Subject: [WISPA] Streamlined DC Powered Sys

Re: [WISPA] water in feed horn

2008-07-09 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
And you are sure it is that end of the link that went bad? - Original Message - From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:51 PM Subject: [WISPA] water in feed horn > Anyone ever have any water get into a pacwireless 5ghz grid

Re: [WISPA] water in feed horn

2008-07-09 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
No, they stay reflectors. But Yagis have a huge problem when coated with ice. > -Original Message- > From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 17:38:24 > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] water in feed horn > > > Don't grids stop working when th

Re: [WISPA] water in feed horn

2008-07-10 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
5 > www.wavelinc.com > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:45 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] water in feed h

Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave antenna pattern for RM

2008-07-10 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Generally speaking, when the FCC specifies antennas they are more interested in the pattern than the gain. Specifically, they have a beamwidth and sidelobe suppression mask that they insist upon. This is always true with satellite uplink dishes. Not totally familiar with the point to point fi

Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave antenna pattern for RM

2008-07-10 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Thanks for pointing that out. In my mind that was what I was attempting to say. I guess I failed to take it to completion. I was trying to make the point that gain ~~ size~~ beamwidth but only in the broad general case. The FCC is not really caring about gain or size(in these cases); but sinc

Re: [WISPA] Report: FCC to Punish Comcast Over Web Blocking

2008-07-11 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Hyperbole is not helpful to discourse. If you want no FCC go to some other country. Are you really the anarchist you come across as? - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: FCC to Punish Comc

Re: [WISPA] Report: FCC to Punish Comcast Over Web Blocking

2008-07-11 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
er to present the positive benefits that we > bring to the population, like the TVA. You can't argue with motherhood > and virtue and that's what the message is. Flailing at boogiemen isn't a > help. The fact that WISPA helps bring the bottom-of-the-list USA to the >

Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking

2008-07-13 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
We have had the CALEA pain in the telco side for a decade. Believe me, it was much more expensive to become compliant if you were a LEC. Fact of the matter is that the internet is becoming the defacto alternate PSTN network and when you are a public utility you become beholden to the public yo

Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade AssociationWas:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking

2008-07-13 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Let us know when that coffin is nailed shut. I am sure there will be a wisp ready to step up and take over your customers. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > No, it is just one more nail in our coffin, removing what I consider to > be > the single greatest advantage to u

Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade AssociationWas:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking

2008-07-13 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
w00t - Original Message - From: "Forrest W Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade AssociationWas:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> No matter how many t

Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking

2008-07-13 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Upon reading some of the original requirements, I decided that etherreal would do the trick. (That was after about a half dozen consulting, hardware and software vendors tried to convince me to buy their solutions that ranged from $9K to $50K) - Original Message - From: "Forrest W Christ

Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade AssociationWas:Report: FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking

2008-07-13 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
For telcos, that assistance was in the form of CALEA complaint software upgrades for a very few brands of switches. If you were Nortel you were OK. I think the same thing with GTE but the switches we had did not have an FBI supplied software load so we got zero assistance for CALEA. - Origi

Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave antenna pattern for RM

2008-07-14 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Could you please elaborate about a Class B? This is new to me. - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave antenna pattern for RM > Actually...if you're willing to accept Clas

Re: [WISPA] Form 477 NPRM Comments Due

2008-07-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Then I guess you do not want to evolve into a public utility. Too bad, as the rest of the WISP industry is becoming defacto public utility. You really need to become familiar with the principle of common carriage. The legal doctrine can be traced clear back to the Roman Empire. Personally I

Re: [WISPA] Form 477 NPRM Comments Due

2008-07-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
ulated public utility", 99% of all WISP's will be > GONE. > > What a way to promote industry health and speak for WISP's > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck McCown - 3"

Re: [WISPA] great FAQ on the difference between dB and dBi/dBm

2008-07-16 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
The article was good for our industry. There are tons of absolute dB readings like dBuV, dBrnc0 and dBspl. I always explain it as simply a logarithmic way of stating a measuring unit like power or force. You could have dBmpg (miles per gallon) if you wanted. A naked dB by itself is nothing

Re: [WISPA] muddy frog

2008-07-16 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
You are correct. I apologize. - Original Message - From: "Steve Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] muddy frog > Why don't you Not. I have enough junk mail don't need that as well. If > muddy and chuck ha

[WISPA] end of thread

2008-07-16 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I apologize to everyone on the list for continuing to take the bait. I was warned weeks ago by others about him. I google'd this guy and found he carries on these diatribes on other lists and other venues and it is generally the same stuff. >From his website I find the following; "Together, [t

Re: [WISPA] end of thread

2008-07-16 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
;-) Dang, that could be considered a reply, couldn't it. Must stop. Must not press send - Original Message - From: "Rogelio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] end of thread > C

Re: [WISPA] formulas behind pathloss+RSSI calculators?

2008-07-16 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Tx power + antenna gain - free space path loss + rx antenna gain =rssi. - Original Message - From: "Rogelio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:24 PM Subject: [WISPA] formulas behind pathloss+RSSI calculators? > I'm looking for the math behind

Re: [WISPA] formulas behind pathloss+RSSI calculators?

2008-07-16 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Here is an example. TX power of 30 dBm (1 watt) + 10 dB antenna gain = 40 dBm EIRP - Path loss (say 10 miles at 915 MHz) 116 dB + 10 dB RX antenna gain = -66 dBm RX signal level - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[WISPA] dead thread

2008-07-16 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Art sent a note to frog and tried to post a cc here. Not being a subscriber to this list it bounced. Being a 77 year old elder statesman of the telco industry, he has alot of perspective. If someone wants a copy of his reply to mr frog, hit me off list. - Original Message - From: "Blake

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents

2008-07-17 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
So, what down converted 802.11a systems are there for 900? - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents > Even thought this thread is a bi

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents

2008-07-17 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
And these are as robust and immune from interference as Canopy? - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents > >So, what down converted 802

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents

2008-07-19 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Their 45 has promise. - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents > Hi, > > You are correct... my mistake. > > However, the MM5 was g

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents

2008-07-19 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:41 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents > > > - Origi

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents

2008-07-19 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
CopperCom... Hmmm. Taqua is still around and strong. I have a story to tell you about Taqua someday. Motorola: There still is no SM left behind. The 400 is a totally different product line. But they are still coming out with new Canopy products. The line may bifurcate, but they are still

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents

2008-07-19 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I have been on both ends of this as a manufacturer. I made airborne PBX systems that were installed in the avionics bay of head-of-state, military command and control and corporate fleet aircraft. Almost got airforce1. (I could only do 48 phones and they needed more!) I was very proud of tha

Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.

2008-07-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Not true. Not true at all. Cable Companies are not rate of return regulated. Every dollar they spend is below the line. The ILECS are strictly regulated as to what can be spent above the line. Tarrifed rates ONLY support tarrifed services. - Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" <

Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.

2008-07-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
d > installing solar cells as a replacements anytime soon, so if the electric > company were to engage in broadband as suggested, it would be scary for > all > other broadband carriers. > > - Larry > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EM

Re: [WISPA] Nanostations

2008-07-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I wonder if the chip could be changed to give you more memory. - Original Message - From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostations > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Travis Johnson wrote: > >>And although I hav

Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.

2008-07-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
not serve any of our certificated areas with our WISP. - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Just what we need. > Not exactly true. The POTS inf

Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.

2008-07-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
vice in > the U.S. I sometimes slip and refer to them generically as ILECs. As you > validly point out, some independent ILECs continue to exist and have much > more flexibility in their service offerings. > > - Larry > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PR

Re: [WISPA] Nanostations

2008-07-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
There used to be a graphic on one of the Canopy marketing pages showing the loading vs latency curves for polled vs non polled systems. Lightly loaded 802.11 will always do better but once you get up to 20 or 30 users, the polling type systems start to shine with their fixed latency. - Or

Re: [WISPA] Nanostations

2008-07-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I am surprised an open source project has not sprung up to do this. - Original Message - From: "Japhy Bartlett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostations > Maybe Mikrotik should take a note from Microsoft's book..

Re: [WISPA] Nanostations

2008-07-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
or buy equipment > that already has the license for it. > > Sam Tetherow >Sandhills Wireless > > Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: >> I am surprised an open source project has not sprung up to do this. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Ja

Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.

2008-07-22 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
But you really are not harming the subsidized utility. For example, we have about 900 customer on our public utility. We charge them a little more than $10 for local service. $9000 per month. But the FUSF, SUSF, and NECA settlement probably amounts to 2-3 million a year. If you take my cus

[WISPA] A glorious victory

2008-07-22 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Just got back from a county commission meeting. We appealed conditions placed on a conditional use permit for a new tower. They wanted us to provide a full acre of fall protection clearance around the tower (leased land). That acre would be conveyed to the county. They wanted the parcel fen

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal

2008-07-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
r is? > > > -- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal

2008-07-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
/www.ics-il.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:04 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal > > >> That is what they make D

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal

2008-07-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
That is pretty high compared to the good deals we are seeing. We have BW from $6 to $14/meg in this area. - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA List" Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal > While searching for pipes fo

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal

2008-07-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
ndwidth Deal > Single or multiple hop(s)? > > Is a 60 mile single hop possible? > > > -- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal

2008-07-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Since they are full duplex, they really don't add latency. - Original Message - From: "Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal >> We have 60 mile Dragonwave systems out here. Saving 2-3K per month pay

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal

2008-07-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
; or only the state they operate in? Got a dumbfounded idea up my > sleeve. > > Scottie > > -- Original Message ------ > From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: WISPA General List > Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:48:0

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal

2008-07-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
0:01:19 -0500 > >>Delivered to your door, no matter where that door is? >> >> >>-- >>Mike Hammett >>Intelligent Computing Solutions >>http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "Chuck McCown - 3

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal

2008-07-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I am an ILEC. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal >I think you mean clec. ILEC is people like at&t or verizon. > > Clec is all the upstarts. > > Though I co

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal

2008-07-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Iowa used to have over 100 ILECs. I think they still do. - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal > AT&T, Verizon, and Qwest are RBOCs, a subset

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal

2008-07-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
This list shows 142 ILECs in Iowa alone. http://www.yourclosestconnection.com/itc_list.asp We have 13 in Utah. Oregon has 30 ILECs. http://www.ota-telecom.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=36 - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [WISPA] Direct TV interference from 802.11b client?

2008-07-25 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
The IF frequency between the TV dish and the TV receiver is a lower frequency. Not sure how low, they used to be about 1 GHz 25 years ago. But that could be where the problem is. - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday,

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [Motorola II] Proxim

2008-07-26 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
SS7 A links are very touchy. All radios I have used that were designed for T1 work much better than using TDM over IP mux gear. Noise is no issue. There isn't another transmitter within 25 miles. I have used PCom, Proxim and Westernmux T1 radios at other places with no problems at all. This

Re: [WISPA] wow

2008-07-26 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
This will work. The user is using a rotopol to convert a canopy to horizontal polarization. - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 4:53 PM Subject: [WISPA] wow > And here is what happens when someone does

Re: [WISPA] More FCC News - Net Neutrality

2008-07-26 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I don't think there is an issue if you fully disclose to your customer exactly what you are doing. If you tell the customer that you do your very best to kill or impair bittorrent then they have the choice of continuing with your or going somewhere else. Comcast originally got pinched for not

Re: [WISPA] wow

2008-07-26 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
neral List Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] wow Does it also add gain or just change polarity? Travis Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: This will work. The user is using a rotopol to convert a canopy to horizontal polarization. - Original Message - Fro

Re: [WISPA] Direct TV interference from 802.11b client?

2008-07-27 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
That's good stuff. I wonder why we are still running two coax' on all of our installs. Gotta ask our DTV trainers about that. Still, none of these bands overlap bands we are using so that is a good thing. - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA Genera

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-27 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Shannon theorm states that a channel capacity is constrained by the following equation: C=B log(2)(1+S/N) Where the capacity of the channel is C, B is the bandwidth of the channel, S is signal and N is noise. Rearranging terms and holding some things constant. Lets consider noise and signal =1

Re: [WISPA] IP based security system

2008-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
A good value system is WiLife by LukWerks. They were purchased by Logitech so I am not sure if the name stayed the same. - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA List" Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: [WISPA] IP based security system >I am

Re: [WISPA] 900mhz - Ham

2008-08-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Yep, Hams OWN this band. We are simply visitors. - Original Message - From: "Lance Jahnke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:01 PM Subject: [WISPA] 900mhz - Ham > It's my understanding that as long as the Ham operator is within his > operating privileges, any in

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 MHz the distance record is 4,06

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
> OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: > > Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the > planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always > get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 > MHz the distance re

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Court Injunction

2008-08-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
L PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [Motorola II] [WISPA] Court Injunction > Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: >> >>> They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are >>> the ones "stin

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
land of the > great unwashed) Numbers are diminishing all the time. > > Springfield MO just announced they are canceling theirs > this year. > > And yes, I can say it. KD4RME > > > Don't take your organs to heaven, > heaven knows we need them down here! > Be an

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
That is good to hear. I was the president of my university ham club many years ago. I let my license expire due to ignorance of the due date. I have never bothered to renew it. I never made extra 'cause I couldn't do one minute of perfect copy @ 20 wpm. I had some mistakes. - Original

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-04 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Sharples > WA6HAS, ARRL, QCWA > Qorvus Systems, Inc. > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:48 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction > > >&g

Re: [WISPA] Pathloss 4

2008-08-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I prefer RadioMobile. - Original Message - From: "John Seaman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pathloss 4 > We use it every day for running path profiles and microwave reliability > estimates for customers... I wo

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
August 05, 2008 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction > Chuck, I hope you'll consider going after that "Extra" now. It's never > too > late... > > Rick > > -Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
"The industrial, scientific and medical (ISM) radio bands were originally reserved internationally for the use of RF electromagnetic fields for industrial, scientific and medical purposes other than communications." So, other than communications were primary, then HAM, then Part -15. My 25 kW

Re: [WISPA] IP based security system

2008-08-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Outdoor rated? How much power do they need? - Original Message - From: "Joshua Rowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP based security system >I currenty have a customer that is using Intellinet 550710 cameras, the > quality is accepta

Re: [WISPA] Pathloss 4

2008-08-06 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
What can it do that Radio Mobile does not? I have been engineering microwave paths since 1978. Back in the day it was curved path profile paper and counting elevation lines on a topo map. I have used about a half dozen software products over the years, including the original on line version f

Re: [WISPA] Harmonic Frequencies

2008-08-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
With that much power on UHF TV a rusty nail in a fence could be mixing that channel with some other broadcast frequency and making a signal on your frequency. Anything is possible when you get close to high power RF. Can you drive a quarter mile away and get a good signal? Try to see if the

Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme

2008-08-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Which Chuck are you addressing here? - Original Message - From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme > Chuck, > > That was neither neighborly nor a nice comment to make from one vendor to > a

Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme

2008-08-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
> > Who is [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Mac > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 >> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 1:06 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [W

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Deployments....I'm serious

2008-08-09 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
We use a hybrid approach, asterisk for many things, and a Vox like company (it may even be Vox, not sure as I just approve the payments, Bryan is the one that vetted the company). Our VoiP system is form fit and function equivalent to a wired telephone from Qwest. We even port their Qwest numb

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Deployments....I'm serious

2008-08-09 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
We don't care about CDRs as we give an all you can eat long distance feature. We will look at the totals month by month to see if we are making out OK or loosing our shirt. - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, August 09,

[WISPA] Crossroads Wireless

2008-08-09 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
The following link has contact info for all the GFRs. Contact the GFR in your area to see if Crossroads Wireless is trying to get loans or grants to serve areas you already serve. The GFRs need to know you. Who knows, they might even have some money for you. http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/st

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Deployments....I'm serious

2008-08-09 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Whoever it is we are using charges extra for the intl calls. - Original Message - From: "Jeremy Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP DeploymentsI'm serious >> We don't care about CDRs as we give an al

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Deployments....I'm serious

2008-08-09 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Not sure if we are offering intl. I think we decided to sell them phone cards if they want intl. - Original Message - From: "Jeremy Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP DeploymentsI'm serious >> Who

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