Re: [WISPA] Trango
If it helps anyone, I have 50gal cans stacked with trango gear in my storage area. I know the passwords on all mine :) 2.4 and 5Ghz If anyone needs some more and can't get those to work we can probably work something out... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Victoria Proffer" Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 1:42 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango No reset buttons on the 5800/5830 series . you can trust me on this one . =( You have to have that cable or you are SOL. RJ11 > serial port. Victoria Proffer President/CEO 314-974-5600 St. Louis Broadband, LLC www. StLouisBroadband.comFrom: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 12:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoThat's only on the FOX radios according to that manual. I don't see the button on my bigger units, 5800 and 5830.Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: On the bottom there is a reset button under the rubber plug. Pressing the reset button will reset the radio's IP address to factory default of 192.168.100.100, and password trango.I confirmed this with the manual: http://www.barco.cz/en/data/products/download/Access5830_UserManual_F.pdf Regards, Chuck On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Tony C. Loosle wrote: 5830AP Chuck Hogg Friday, August 31, 2012 9:45 AM What model radio is this? Regards, Chuck ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Tony C. Loosle Friday, August 31, 2012 9:42 AM I need to factory reset the radio as the ip it was configured with was lost. t ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Sam Tetherow Friday, August 31, 2012 9:29 AM Can you log in, or is that the problem? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless tcl Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:00 PM Any old timers here remember how to reset a trango 58 series ap? t ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless <> ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] I've been cleaning house, anything you might need? (trango & motorola unlicensed & licensed, Cisco stuff, Watchguard stuff etc)
Hit me off list Any reasonable price considered... I have to make room for something special and the stuff is in my way. Trango link 10 5830APs 5830SUs fox's (various kinds) 900APs 900SUs 2400APs 2400SUs Multiple APEX 11Ghz links w/3ft trango or Radiowaves dishes (these are all operational currently work fine) Motorola Canopy Advantage 58 APs and SUs Canopy Advantage 900 APs adn SUs Cluster CMM modules with GPS PTP600 operational link including dishes radiowaves I think PTP800 11Ghz like new used for 30 days for test with new 3ft dishes Motorola Point-to-Point 5.8GHz. (PTP 500) Int. Antenna Orthogon 5.8 GHz. Point-to-Point Radio Pair Int. Antenna Mitsubishi HVAC model # PUY-A42NHA4 Cisco 2500 router Cisco 2600 router Cisco 3500 XL series 48 port switch Cisco Cache Engine 500 series Cisco 3600 Router Cisco AS 5300 unversal access servers Cisco 3845 Router Cisco Catalyst Switch 3560G-48TS-E Watchguard XTM 505 Firewall w/3-Years UTM Software (purchased 2/11) Watchguard X1250e Firewall Dell 2400MP DLP Projector, Mount, & Wall Screen Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Is IPv6 ready?
I'm fairly sure you can change the binding order to adjust this operation to suite your preference. (which one the computer tried first) I don't see IPv6 utilized in my real world until 5-10 years from now. We do provide some customers v6 routed address space and our entire network is routed and supports it, but thats because people like to play with it because its something new in the networking world they want to understand, not because anyone actually requires it. It does provide a small marketing bonus, for those that don't understand it - sounds good any way lol I see it as somewhat as a liability to my network, since there are sure to be bugs in its implementation and dual stack functionality. Just a fear I have, been there done that with different routing protocols in the past and the programmers have not yet achieved perfection yet :) But, I flex, have to let people have their v6 fun (employees and customers alike...) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango
Trango is a great company and it has always been pleasurable working with them (sales, tech support, management etc.). I always like to start on a positive note. One thing really upset me though fairly recently and once a year ago same thing happened. Twice, I had an APEX die within its three year warranty window. Out of the 10 I own, thats a 20% failure rate within warranty period. Now I undersatnd that Trango will insist that they cannot be responsible for a radio that got hit by lightning, and I agree with that philosophy, for the most part. I send in both APEX radios, and was told each time that the issue was lightning damage. Nevermid the fact that there was weeks of no lightning prior to them both just stop working in the middle of the day on nice clear days. Then I was shown pics of burnt PC boards and components. Sure did work great with that stuff toasted for a few weeks since the last lightning storm - is what I am thinking to myself... impossible. They still maintain it was lightning and won't budge... $600 to repair radio which is a good deal considering what was replaced is what I was told. Here's the bad deal Both these APEX radios that supposedly had "lightning damage" sit about 150ft up on 500ft towers, have shielded ethernet runs of less than 15ft to a stainless steel enclosure with all the high tech surge, EMI, etc protection possible. Amazing the Mikrotik radios, the Ubiquiti radios, the SAF radios etc all have no problem. Everyone on this list who owns RB411 Mikrotik radios knows they are the first out of the game with lightning anywhere close - thats fine too because they cost $40. What nobody on this list should be able to explain is how on a clear blue day, an APEX unit ceases to work due to lightning when its bolted to the 150ft height of a 500ft tower, grounded great, short shielded cat5 run (15ft) to box on tower with filtered / conditioned 120v AC that its plugged into, along with multiple other Mikrotik and Ubiquiti radios that continued to run fine both before and after the suspected lightning event (which never happened). It costs about $3000 for that individual radio it should have been $2960 more durable than the Mikrotik or Ubiquiti next to it that survived, regardless of any other details. Period. So, I'm not going to go through all the SAF / Trango advantages and disadvantages but I'll leave you with this SAF / 5 year warranty - never had to test. Trango 3yr, tested twice, paid $1200 to fix them twice and another $800 in overnight shipping - all while under warranty. And there never was lightning involved in the events. I've never had a lightning problem in 10 years with equipment located 300ft or more down from the top of a guyed tower with a <20ft shielded cable run. ever. regardless of what anyone claims in the rma department. my 2 cents. Why I spent the time to share my experience... because that $2000 came out of my pocket to fix those two radios under some kind of 3 year conditional warranty and it burns me up that I was told twice it was lightning when it wasn't. Sorry Trango. I'm not over it yet, not even from last years issue, not to mention this years. I'll have a ways to go before I let go of this. Trango had two opportunities to flex on this (their $600 repair charge) and chose not to. I paid about $1500 or more for each link than others reading this did. I feel they should have been more flexible. Sorry. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "John Seaman" Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:19 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango Hi all, I'll chime in here to clarify the point regarding TX Power. Trango offers high power as a standard feature, and even higher power as an optional key. The "Extra" high power feature and I should also point out that we also now support adaptive power control, meaning that as ACM kicks in to downshift the modulation, it will simultaneously upshift the TX Power. 11 Ghz Trango: 256QAM +21 dBm (standard) / +24 dBm with optional key QPSK +26 dBm SAF: 256QAM +12 dBm (standard) / +18 dBm (HP Model) 4QAM +19 (standard) / +25 (HP) 18 & 23 GHz Trango: 256QAM +19 dBm / +21 dBm with optional keyQPSK +25 dBm SAF:256QAM +12 dBm (no high power option) 4QAM +19 dBm Trango receive sensitivity is also considerably higher than SAF, so when you combine TX Power and RX Sensitivity, the Trango System gain is 10 dB better (or more) in some cases. John Seaman Trango Systems, Inc. 858-248-4006 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 6:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango I beg to differ, they have
[WISPA] Service in Kings Bay GA?
Get with me if you service this area please. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Data-Alliance.net Horror story w/ Air Fiber
So... I really needed an Air Fiber for an important project that was time sensitive... Go to the UBNT tool and see who has stock, I very specifically put HAS TO BE US VERSION in the notes. George Hardesty from there emails me that his company Data-Alliance.net has them in stock. I send an email directly back to his, asking specifically, you have the US version in stock? He emails back, yes he has verified that he has US version in stock. I buy it. I wait a week. It shows up and low and behold its the international version. Woohoo, just wasted my time and money and project is not happening when I promised customer. That should not have happened when I specifically asked twice for him to verify what I was buying before hand. It gets better. Of course I had AMEX open chargeback on the purchase because I already lost time, money and possibly new customer on this inexcusable botched shipment. I called George and let him know this and that I expected them to pay for shipping back as well because it was 100% his fault. He then informs me he has the US version and can ship it out to fix my problem and will also include shipping label for the wrong air fiber return. Great, seems reasonable - at least there is light at the end of the one week delay. I get with AMEX and have them drop the dispute. I get shipping label and return product to him after waiting in line at UPS (bad time of year to ship stuff). George send me tracking info for new US air fiber (I had him double check again, before shipping the second time as you might imagine). Ok, I am assured everything is good and the correct part is now on its way. Supposed to arrive today I check tracking this evening because package never arrived, but hey, its baout xmas maybe they are working late? Nope - Mr Hardesty called UPS and had the package returned to sender. LOL - seriously? Now I'm late on the project twice and customer thinks this is some sort of new hobby for me. I'm not happy. And I sure as heck won't make the mistake of ordering something from Data-Alliance.net again since they are obviously lacking integrity and competence in several departments. I just can't believe after having discussed all this with him several times, and us both potentially having everything work out acceptably that he pulled this and didn't even bother to communicate with me so I could have at the very least saved another lost day. Now I start over, third time... /End rant Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Data-Alliance.net Horror story w/ Air Fiber
Not sure what to tell ya. I'm not familiar enough to argue one way or another. But I've had as many people ask the difference as I have had tell me I only want the US one from everything because TX power different, FCC approval different etc etc. Not worth it to me to even open a box if it wasn't what I wanted I can't roll the dice with $1500 radios And just because it works, doesn't mean its legal as far as the FCC is concerned. I can make lots of country codes, radio configurations, and assorted parts work great but if the man ever stops by they need to be legal as well. That could be as simple as a sticker on a UBNT radio I'm just trying to do it right. I can't debate whether they are the same and/or legal - I just don't know. There seems to be a lot of confusion on this matter, it would be nice if UBNT made the difference crystal clear. UBNT forum on matter: http://forum.ubnt.com/showthread.php?t=63248 Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Larry Weidig" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 9:43 PM To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA General List" Subject: RE: [WISPA] Data-Alliance.net Horror story w/ Air Fiber I am really not sure what the issue with an International version would be. Set the country code setting to US and poof you have the equivalent of the US version. I know there has been some talk about different power and such, but I can assure you that is not the case. We got a set that were not the US version installed them and received exactly the predicted signal strength, actually 1 dB better. Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) Excel.Net, Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 8:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Data-Alliance.net Horror story w/ Air Fiber So... I really needed an Air Fiber for an important project that was time sensitive... Go to the UBNT tool and see who has stock, I very specifically put HAS TO BE US VERSION in the notes. George Hardesty from there emails me that his company Data-Alliance.net has them in stock. I send an email directly back to his, asking specifically, you have the US version in stock? He emails back, yes he has verified that he has US version in stock. I buy it. I wait a week. It shows up and low and behold its the international version. Woohoo, just wasted my time and money and project is not happening when I promised customer. That should not have happened when I specifically asked twice for him to verify what I was buying before hand. It gets better. Of course I had AMEX open chargeback on the purchase because I already lost time, money and possibly new customer on this inexcusable botched shipment. I called George and let him know this and that I expected them to pay for shipping back as well because it was 100% his fault. He then informs me he has the US version and can ship it out to fix my problem and will also include shipping label for the wrong air fiber return. Great, seems reasonable - at least there is light at the end of the one week delay. I get with AMEX and have them drop the dispute. I get shipping label and return product to him after waiting in line at UPS (bad time of year to ship stuff). George send me tracking info for new US air fiber (I had him double check again, before shipping the second time as you might imagine). Ok, I am assured everything is good and the correct part is now on its way. Supposed to arrive today I check tracking this evening because package never arrived, but hey, its baout xmas maybe they are working late? Nope - Mr Hardesty called UPS and had the package returned to sender. LOL - seriously? Now I'm late on the project twice and customer thinks this is some sort of new hobby for me. I'm not happy. And I sure as heck won't make the mistake of ordering something from Data-Alliance.net again since they are obviously lacking integrity and competence in several departments. I just can't believe after having discussed all this with him several times, and us both potentially having everything work out acceptably that he pulled this and didn't even bother to communicate with me so I could have at the very least saved another lost day. Now I start over, third time... /End rant Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 <> ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik Users] Data-Alliance.net Horror story w/ Air Fiber
Ok Rick. We always try to not do this as well. It is matter of opinion that I was mearly venting frustrations. I like to think of it more as sharing valued experiences with fellow friends in the business and add benefit to their even taking the time to read these forums. When WISPA (or non-WISPA) members share their experiences, good or bad, I feel like it adds value to the community as a whole. Thats why we all monitor the many emails that continually arrive from such community lists - because there is value in us spending the time to learn from others - whether that be gained knowledge or mistakes made. The post was intended to provide value to others, not just make me feel better having shared it. I will honor your wishes because keeping me in line on here is what you have donated your time for, and everyone appreciates what you have sacrificed for the community. Much more than I ever have or will time-wise. So, just in case someone hasn't told you recently - Thanks, we appreciate your efforts, even when you are scolding us (or me more specifically) lol Anyway, Let this thread die please, it doesn't require any more posts. I'll leave it by providing Georges response to me. I'm a very fair and reasonable person. He asked that I share it, and since this should be the end of the discussion here it is. == Scott - I am not a member of those mailing lists and would very much appreciate if you would send my explanation below. Thanks Shipping of the World version was my grievous error and I'm terribly, terribly sorry that it happened and caused all of this trouble for Scott. I thought that what we had was US version and based on various reasons I had no reason to believe otherwise. But I didn't verify that and I really feel terrible for all the trouble that it has caused Scott. As soon as we found out that we had shipped the wrong version, we shipped the US version. Then 1 or 2 days later I received notice that Scott or his office had charged-back the $1500 + shipping to us and I got a little panicky about it because we had never done business with them before, and he knew that we had shipped the US version unit, and yet we had notice of a charge back. The burden of proof is always on the merchant and the banks always favor the customer in a charge back situation; charge backs are always risky for the merchant. So I requested a UPS interception by email, of the shipment of the US version. Then I corresponded with Scott and he assured me not to worry - that he would cancel the charge back. So I sent an email asking that the request for UPS interception be cancelled - to the same party to whom I had sent the email requesting the interception, requesting that they disregard the request for an interception. I then decided not to worry about the charge back anymore and of course I thought that the interception was now not going to happen. Unfortunately, the interception did occur - late today - I got the notice after 5PM. After seeing these emails I called Scott and explained the whole situation and apologized profusely for all the trouble that this has caused him. I'm working on getting a US version unit to him as quickly as possible and he is aware of this. Those of you who are customers of Data Alliance know that we are very straightforward and normally work like clockwork shipping orders the same day - even orders as late as 4:30 - 5:30pm normally we ship that same day. Sincerely, George Hardesty Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Rick Harnish" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:08 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, "Mikrotik Users" , "WISPA General List" Subject: RE: [Mikrotik Users] Data-Alliance.net Horror story w/ Air Fiber Scott, Please do not use WISPA mailing lists to vent your frustrations. Neither Brevard Wireless nor Data Alliance are WISPA members. When there are issues like this, I prefer members contact me off list if they need help with a particular vendor. There are better ways to solve problems like this that often end up as a WIN/WIN outcome. I rarely hear of these types of issues with WISPA Vendor Members. Even if you are not a WISPA Member, you might start here. http://www.wispa.org/vendor-member-spotlight. Where there is a Wisp, there is a way! Respectfully, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)From: mikrotik-users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:mikrotik-users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 9:02 PM To: mikrotik-us...@wispa.org Subject: [Mikrotik Users] Data-Alliance.net Horror story w/ Air Fiber So... I really needed an Air Fiber for an impor
Re: [WISPA] Trango and 17Ghz
The SAF radios work very well It would be good to try them out. I'm glad we did. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Daniel White" Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 5:22 PM To: "WISPA General List" , paolo.difrance...@level7.it Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango and 17Ghz SAF sells all of our platforms (including Freemile) in the 17GHz band for Europe. Daniel White - Sales Manager West and Southeast USA SAF Tehnika JSC Cell: +1 303-746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 4:24 PM To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango and 17Ghz Trango is direct. You'll need to call them if you want an answer. SAF more than likely can do it, but I'm only 95% sure. You'll need to contact them if it's not a commonly used band in Europe. SAF is in Latvia, which would presumably make it easier on you if you're in Europe. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi all does trango works on 17ghz ? if so which model? Any european distributor in the list? Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Anyone service Minneapolis / Eagan area?
Hit me off list I need someone in area. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Industry Accronym
Well, doesn't really matter to me and I haven't been part of this discussion, but SkiFi sounds reasonable. And I want my prize for making that up too... like SciFi but SkiFi - cause after all, it aint going through the ground ?? yes / no And my prize is? Some nucklehead is going to trademark that any way if not already and it'll be gone as fast as it arrived Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Patrick Leary" Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:09 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Industry Accronym Many have called this the "BWA" industry for years. Broadband Wireless Access. Don't pigeon hole with the word "fixed" just as all the world has embraced "mobile" -- it makes us look like dinosaurs...even if I resemble that comment. Patrick Leary Alvarion 727.501.3735 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Clark Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:27 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Industry Accronym Coming soon FiWi Second Generation Just like cells Phone company's 2g 3g 4g From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 8:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Industry Accronym +1 for FiWi (for fixed wireless - the "broadband" is almost a given) Pronounced "fy why" On 4/16/2013 5:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: FiWi IMO Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2013 8:15 PM, "Jorge Santiago" wrote: Gino, honestly that sounds weird! LOL On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: So I was thinking that us as Wisp need a service acronym to market. like WiFi, 4G, LTE and DSL.. And it hit me. Fixed Wireless Broadband. FiWi-B Promunced feewee bee? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks" Serving the WISP Community since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 760-678-5033 jun...@ask-wi.com This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(100). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(42). ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Industry Accronym
Or just SkyFi... whatever :) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Scott Carullo" Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 7:12 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Industry Accronym Well, doesn't really matter to me and I haven't been part of this discussion, but SkiFi sounds reasonable. And I want my prize for making that up too... like SciFi but SkiFi - cause after all, it aint going through the ground ?? yes / no And my prize is? Some nucklehead is going to trademark that any way if not already and it'll be gone as fast as it arrived Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Patrick Leary" Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:09 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Industry Accronym Many have called this the "BWA" industry for years. Broadband Wireless Access. Don't pigeon hole with the word "fixed" just as all the world has embraced "mobile" -- it makes us look like dinosaurs...even if I resemble that comment. Patrick Leary Alvarion 727.501.3735 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Clark Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:27 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Industry Accronym Coming soon FiWi Second Generation Just like cells Phone company's 2g 3g 4g From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 8:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Industry Accronym +1 for FiWi (for fixed wireless - the "broadband" is almost a given) Pronounced "fy why" On 4/16/2013 5:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: FiWi IMO Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2013 8:15 PM, "Jorge Santiago" wrote: Gino, honestly that sounds weird! LOL On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: So I was thinking that us as Wisp need a service acronym to market. like WiFi, 4G, LTE and DSL.. And it hit me. Fixed Wireless Broadband. FiWi-B Promunced feewee bee? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks" Serving the WISP Community since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 760-678-5033 jun...@ask-wi.com This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(100). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(42). ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Electrical noise problem / need solution
I'll try to keep this as brief as possible while providing pertinent info - thanks if you reply FM tower with AM detuner skirt from 0-150ft - fm tower has isolated guy wires and is well grounded at base AM tower ~60 yards away operating at 50KW with 4 arrays max We did new install there and ran power wire up tower in non-shielded SOOW 14/3 wire to 325ft from inside building at base Right after it was pulled up tower I happened to be running the bottom into the building and got shocked, not just by the cable but by about everything around me. Not fun, RF burn is something you don't want to experience lol. Its unbelievable really, watch this short video from my phone - you can hear the am station coming out of the arc welder like sparks. http://flhsi.com/files/wow.mov Remember, this cable is not powered up its just hanging there... Gives you something to think about. So obviously I decided it was best not to hook it up to the equipment at 325ft or the power UPS at the bottom. I looked for a solution and ended up buying replacement power cable called Armor-X which is fully armored / shielded 14/3 power cable. Actually really nice stuff it looks like 1/2 inch coax from the outside almost exactly. I used coax grounding kits about every 50ft up the tower and one at top where enters my stainless box and one where it enters the building on the common ground plate. I also ran the cable up the inside of the tower instead of the outside - a seasoned engineer told me running it inside the tower would provide shielding as well from the AM station. This fixed my AM issues and allowed me to successfully power the equipment without issue. Next problem - Another customer at the tower lost link on their 5Ghz when I powered up the new cable. They are using an older tsunami radio with coax up the tower to their antenna. I believe that our power cable is located about 6 - 12 inches from their coax the whole run up to 325ft (not positive though - I have not been back to find out yet). I need to not have their tsunami get noise on the coax and drop the RF chains and lose link. When I unplug the power to my cable their radio link comes up / plug in theirs goes down in minute or so. Repeatable. Not an RF issue we turned all transmitters off - its just the power cable causing the issue. Since I have it bonded well I'm not sure how to rectify this. I need to deal with this soon. Any ideas would be very appreciated. Thanks for your time. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Electrical noise problem / need solution
Power is 120v AC I have requested specific radio model from owner. Not sure about losing links on both sides or not, not sure they would be able to tell me they are not very technical and I don't think they installed the equipment. But I'll try to find out. I'm not familiar with two piece radios, never actually used one myself - we use and have ever only used single outdoor only radios. Would you mind educating me briefly on how it works? Yes, we worked with the AM engineer for the installation including the problem solving of original arcing problem on original power cable. Actually was arcing along the cable through the 600v jacket lol. Scary stuff. Thanks for your time. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "lakeland" Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 11:07 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] Electrical noise problem / need solution Scott, A few questions. What power are you running up the tower, 120VAC? Need to know make and model on the Tsunami. Are they losing the link on both sides or just one? Your cable may be inducing something onto their cable that is screwing with the radio's conversion freq if its a two piece radio like a Tsunami 45 or Tsunami 100. Did an AM RF engineering firm review your proposed install? Let me know what cha got... Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Scott Carullo Date: 05/13/2013 10:10 PM (GMT-05:00) To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Electrical noise problem / need solution I'll try to keep this as brief as possible while providing pertinent info - thanks if you reply FM tower with AM detuner skirt from 0-150ft - fm tower has isolated guy wires and is well grounded at base AM tower ~60 yards away operating at 50KW with 4 arrays max We did new install there and ran power wire up tower in non-shielded SOOW 14/3 wire to 325ft from inside building at base Right after it was pulled up tower I happened to be running the bottom into the building and got shocked, not just by the cable but by about everything around me. Not fun, RF burn is something you don't want to experience lol. Its unbelievable really, watch this short video from my phone - you can hear the am station coming out of the arc welder like sparks. http://flhsi.com/files/wow.mov Remember, this cable is not powered up its just hanging there... Gives you something to think about. So obviously I decided it was best not to hook it up to the equipment at 325ft or the power UPS at the bottom. I looked for a solution and ended up buying replacement power cable called Armor-X which is fully armored / shielded 14/3 power cable. Actually really nice stuff it looks like 1/2 inch coax from the outside almost exactly. I used coax grounding kits about every 50ft up the tower and one at top where enters my stainless box and one where it enters the building on the common ground plate. I also ran the cable up the inside of the tower instead of the outside - a seasoned engineer told me running it inside the tower would provide shielding as well from the AM station. This fixed my AM issues and allowed me to successfully power the equipment without issue. Next problem - Another customer at the tower lost link on their 5Ghz when I powered up the new cable. They are using an older tsunami radio with coax up the tower to their antenna. I believe that our power cable is located about 6 - 12 inches from their coax the whole run up to 325ft (not positive though - I have not been back to find out yet). I need to not have their tsunami get noise on the coax and drop the RF chains and lose link. When I unplug the power to my cable their radio link comes up / plug in theirs goes down in minute or so. Repeatable. Not an RF issue we turned all transmitters off - its just the power cable causing the issue. Since I have it bonded well I'm not sure how to rectify this. I need to deal with this soon. Any ideas would be very appreciated. Thanks for your time. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Anyone have a contact at crown castle?
I've been trying to lease space on 2-3 new towers for two weeks now and have not received a returned phone call or email. Not getting warm and fuzzies with them Anyone have someone who works there that wants my money? Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Metal building parapet wall mount for 3ft dish question
I've never disassembled a parapet wall on a metal building to see whats back behind the sheet metal that runs vertical on the roof side of the parapet wall, but I need to know whats back there and the best way to attach a 3ft licensed radio and dish and the mount needs to be beefy - as in welded galvanized mount that probably weighs 50 pounds itself. I'm going to need to tie into something substantial behind the flimsy wall sheet metal. I've mounted lighter loads to these walls but I just need this to stay put - it can't flex or move at all I have 3deg to work with on 11ghz and its out of town. Anyone know of a mount that works good for this or can tell me whats back in there? They must all be made similarly as every metal building I've seen is built the same. I have included a link to a photo showing exactly what it looks like. Dish needs to go next to the other jpole there - I have no idea what that is and I didn't put it there fyi :) Thanks, appreciate it. Link - http://flhsi.com/files/parapet.jpg Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Fiber Contractor
If you just need it terminated I can do it. Email me offline if you still need assistance Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Justin Wilson" Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:39 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] Fiber Contractor Anyone know a fiber contractor in the Orlando area? Need someone who can terminate some single mode fiber. --Justin Wilson Aol & Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.zigwireless.com - High Speed Internet Options http://www.thebrotherswisp.com - The Brothers Wisp ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software
Make your own web pages to collect money however you see fit, use Mikrotik hotspot to handle the magic stuff, use whatever radios you want. Rolling your own system takes a respectable amount of work and skill but there is nothing like it once done because you control every aspect of it - how it looks, how it sends emails to your staff or customers and whats in those emails, how it takes the money, options for service lengths - just every aspect is completely customizable. If thats beyond the scope of what you are able to accomplish, I'm sure there are lots of other good suggestions people are offering as well. Just letting you know how we do it and it works super fantastic for a long time now. Programming skills required... Good luck Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Chris Fabien" Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:59 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements: Need to provide two levels of service Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or monthly service Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well. Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max. I would prefer an "all in one box" type system over a home made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and "just work." Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly cost is OK if necessary. So, any suggestions? Thanks! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software
yep, the DHCP option is a life saver
Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102
From: "Sam Tetherow"
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:58 AM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software
Just a correction, you do not have to run the UniFi controller on the
same LAN segment as the APs.Check the UniFi wiki for instructions
on setting up the controller in Amazon Web Services. If you are
using an MT probably the easiest way to do it is make sure that
'unifi' resolves to the controller address via DNS or DHCP option 43,
instructions again found in the UniFi FAQ under L3 (Layer 3)
Management
On 07/10/2013 11:41 PM, Ben West wrote:
I would second recommendations for UniFi APs. Along with a
Mikrotik box (I personally like the $60 RB750GL for small
deployments) to manage DHCP lease assignment, do hotspot stuff, and
manage the VPN tunnel back to headquarters. That is, UniFi requires
the java controller to sit on the same local network as the APs, so a
work-around is to have the Mikrotik tunnel a VPN to your cloud server
(or whatever) where the UniFi controller lives.You can also run
your own hotspot server, and use some example PHP code provided by
UBNT to integrate into existing infrastructure.
UniFi runs just fine on $80 Picostation M2's, if you flash them
with that airos2unifi.bin binary floating around UBNT support forum.
If it's critical to support 'any' APs, maybe look into flashing
those APs with OpenWRT, and then use a Mikrotik for the hotspot and
lease assignment, coupled with a RADIUS server somewhere in the
cloud. This will likely send you down the the path of building your
own system, as Scott describes, and I agree about being wary of the
scope of such a task, from being in the midst of doing this myself.
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Scott Carullo
wrote:
Make your own web pages to collect money
however you see fit, use Mikrotik hotspot to handle the magic
stuff, use whatever radios you want. Rolling your own system
takes a respectable amount of work and skill but there is
nothing like it once done because you control every aspect of
it - how it looks, how it sends emails to your staff or
customers and whats in those emails, how it takes the money,
options for service lengths - just every aspect is completely
customizable.
If thats beyond the scope of what you are able to
accomplish, I'm sure there are lots of other good
suggestions people are offering as well. Just letting you
know how we do it and it works super fantastic for a long
time now. Programming skills required...
Good luck
Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102
From: "Chris Fabien"
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:59 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software
I need suggestion for a hotspot system for
a campground. Requirements:
Need to provide two levels
of service
Basic Free Service - lower
speed, limited MB per day
Paid Service - faster speed,
unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or monthly
service
Paid service can be purchased via
credit card in online portal, would be easiest if it
could collect payment to our Propay merchant account,
paypal is a less desirable option, but we do have a
paypal acct as well.
Compatible with any wifi APs, this
year we will connect to current wifi APs in the park,
probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling
100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max.
I would prefer an
"all in one box" type system over a home
made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven
reliable product and "just
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti M5 Powerbridge
what he said Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Mike Hammett" Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:20 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti M5 Powerbridge Get a pair of Rockets and put them into a flat panel with an enclosure by someone like ARC Wireless or IT Elite. They're a lot more flexible in terms of antenna selection, DFS availability, lower replacement cost, better RF shielding, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Bob Moldashel" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:13:49 PM Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti M5 Powerbridge Anyone have any good or bad things to say about these? I am getting roped into a couple of links and looking for feedback before I marry them to myself. Tnx -B- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Mikrotik MPLS voodoo
I have rolled out MPLS on about 4 hops on my network with anticipation of expanding that to all towers once the concept proves itself in this small section on the network. I'm having issue getting traffic to pass through VPLS tunnel in real life. In the lab it works, when we played with it in the past it works. I think we are overlooking something - hard to say because we do not have much real world experience dealing with MPLS anomalies. If anyone has rolled out MPLS on top of an OSPF routed network of reasonable size I'd love to pick your brain on a few things... let me know, you can hit me back on list or off. Appreciate it. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question
I know these are fairly popular routers so I was wondering if anyone has seen this issue before Mikrotik v5.24 or 5.25 - go to ethernet interface and open an interface, I can't increase the MTU size greater then the default 1500. Some of the Maxxwave routers I can. No rhyme or reason between them I can tell - some just allow the MTU change some don't. Not sure if this is MT fubar or some other issue with the device. Anyone? Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MPLS voodoo
Scenario - connected in this order starting at remote site working towards HQ: (link type indented between routers) Customer Windows workstationSwitch of some sortCisco 28xx router with MTU set 1470 (or close to that I don't remember exactly)-ethernet cable 100Mb FDX hard setRB951-2n-UBNT link to shared APx86 MT router-SAF Lumina BHx86 MT router-UBNT AF BHx86 MT router-ethernet cable 100Mb FDX hard setCisco L3 routing switch (don't remember model)HQ Windows server A question about MTU...I have increased the MTU sizes on the equipment which allowed it. I believe the Cisco routers are set to 1470 MTU or something close because packets are all that size when received by us. Backhaul links should allow jumbo packets. Our MT routers have L2 MTU set high - this is actually what the MPLS/VPLS packets use right? I was under the impression that the ethernet interface MTU was just used for IP traffic which has fine connectivity. I can test at the moment had to revert back to eoip tunnel to get it working again. I would very much like to pay someone for their time assisting me setting this up though. Need MPLS on top of our OSPF across the board and we have three edge routers that BGP peer with three upstream providers in three different cities. The sooner I accomplish this the better and at this point I'm asking for help because I don't have the luxury of time. This would be way better for someone to just look at my screen logged into router and check settings themselves... Too many settings on too many devices to type :) Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Paul Hendry" Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 4:24 PM To: "Scott Carullo" , wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MPLS voodoo First stage would be to check the basics. Can both ends of the VPLS tunnel ping each other? Are all interfaces between end points exchanging LDP? Assuming this is all good I suspect an MTU issue so have you got any RB450G, RB493G, older routerboards, etc. in the path? - Reply message - From: "Scott Carullo" To: Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik MPLS voodoo Date: Sat, Jul 13, 2013 21:03 I have rolled out MPLS on about 4 hops on my network with anticipation of expanding that to all towers once the concept proves itself in this small section on the network. I'm having issue getting traffic to pass through VPLS tunnel in real life. In the lab it works, when we played with it in the past it works. I think we are overlooking something - hard to say because we do not have much real world experience dealing with MPLS anomalies. If anyone has rolled out MPLS on top of an OSPF routed network of reasonable size I'd love to pick your brain on a few things... let me know, you can hit me back on list or off. Appreciate it. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MPLS voodoo
I should have clarified - the Ciscos are not running mpls - those are the customer routers on each side of the metro ethernet circuit I am providing. I'm handing them a L2 tunnel - so the Cisco having a smaller MTU should help rather than cause a problem I think.... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Gino Villarini" Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:44 PM To: "" , "WISPA General List" Cc: "Paul Hendry" , "Scott Carullo" , "wireless@wispa.org" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MPLS voodoo Cisco MTU is too low Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 13, 2013, at 5:19 PM, "Scott Carullo" wrote: Scenario - connected in this order starting at remote site working towards HQ: (link type indented between routers) Customer Windows workstation Switch of some sort Cisco 28xx router with MTU set 1470 (or close to that I don't remember exactly) -ethernet cable 100Mb FDX hard set RB951-2n -UBNT link to shared AP x86 MT router -SAF Lumina BH x86 MT router -UBNT AF BH x86 MT router -ethernet cable 100Mb FDX hard set Cisco L3 routing switch (don't remember model) HQ Windows server A question about MTU... I have increased the MTU sizes on the equipment which allowed it. I believe the Cisco routers are set to 1470 MTU or something close because packets are all that size when received by us. Backhaul links should allow jumbo packets. Our MT routers have L2 MTU set high - this is actually what the MPLS/VPLS packets use right? I was under the impression that the ethernet interface MTU was just used for IP traffic which has fine connectivity. I can test at the moment had to revert back to eoip tunnel to get it working again. I would very much like to pay someone for their time assisting me setting this up though. Need MPLS on top of our OSPF across the board and we have three edge routers that BGP peer with three upstream providers in three different cities. The sooner I accomplish this the better and at this point I'm asking for help because I don't have the luxury of time. This would be way better for someone to just look at my screen logged into router and check settings themselves... Too many settings on too many devices to type :) Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -------- From: "Paul Hendry" Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 4:24 PM To: "Scott Carullo" , wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MPLS voodoo First stage would be to check the basics. Can both ends of the VPLS tunnel ping each other? Are all interfaces between end points exchanging LDP? Assuming this is all good I suspect an MTU issue so have you got any RB450G, RB493G, older routerboards, etc. in the path? - Reply message - From: "Scott Carullo" To: Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik MPLS voodoo Date: Sat, Jul 13, 2013 21:03 I have rolled out MPLS on about 4 hops on my network with anticipation of expanding that to all towers once the concept proves itself in this small section on the network. I'm having issue getting traffic to pass through VPLS tunnel in real life. In the lab it works, when we played with it in the past it works. I think we are overlooking something - hard to say because we do not have much real world experience dealing with MPLS anomalies. If anyone has rolled out MPLS on top of an OSPF routed network of reasonable size I'd love to pick your brain on a few things... let me know, you can hit me back on list or off. Appreciate it. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question
Thats what I have bummer. The way you stated it I am led to believe in 6.x you can change MTU sizes with that chipset? Now they just have to make 6.x work good if thats the case I'm not convinced its fully baked yet from what I have seen. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "can...@believewireless.net" Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:55 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question Check the ethernet chipset, Make sure it isn't the Intel 82583V chipset. This won't support jumbo frames in v5.X. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: HI Scott, I bet you if you dropped a quick email with this question to Brian at Baltic networks you will get your answer. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz -------- From: "Scott Carullo" To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 4:07:08 PM Subject: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question I know these are fairly popular routers so I was wondering if anyone has seen this issue before Mikrotik v5.24 or 5.25 - go to ethernet interface and open an interface, I can't increase the MTU size greater then the default 1500. Some of the Maxxwave routers I can. No rhyme or reason between them I can tell - some just allow the MTU change some don't. Not sure if this is MT fubar or some other issue with the device. Anyone? Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question
That is the chipset actually... so whats that mean exactly. You said no support in 5.x That doesn't mean I'm going to have to suffer with 6.1 does it I guess at least there is hope in future without swapping out a bunch of hardware once 6x is working good.. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "can...@believewireless.net" Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:55 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question Check the ethernet chipset, Make sure it isn't the Intel 82583V chipset. This won't support jumbo frames in v5.X. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: HI Scott, I bet you if you dropped a quick email with this question to Brian at Baltic networks you will get your answer. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz -------- From: "Scott Carullo" To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 4:07:08 PM Subject: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question I know these are fairly popular routers so I was wondering if anyone has seen this issue before Mikrotik v5.24 or 5.25 - go to ethernet interface and open an interface, I can't increase the MTU size greater then the default 1500. Some of the Maxxwave routers I can. No rhyme or reason between them I can tell - some just allow the MTU change some don't. Not sure if this is MT fubar or some other issue with the device. Anyone? Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question
It is in 6 but I'm not planning on rolling out 6 yet because my small testing has concluded there are issues with 6 and I'm not ready to bleed on this right now. 5.25 works just fine for me I'll buy more routers to replace existing tower ones and when 6 is stable the others can be used again.... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Simon Westlake" Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:30 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question Jumbo frames are supported on that chipset in the latest Intel driver updates so it is definitely possible to get it working. I don't know about what is bundled into each Mikrotik update but I would imagine you will not have to swap out any hardware, just wait for them to bundle a newer Intel driver. Maybe it is in 6.x already. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 7:42 PM To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question That is the chipset actually... so whats that mean exactly. You said no support in 5.x That doesn't mean I'm going to have to suffer with 6.1 does it I guess at least there is hope in future without swapping out a bunch of hardware once 6x is working good.. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "can...@believewireless.net" Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:55 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question Check the ethernet chipset, Make sure it isn't the Intel 82583V chipset. This won't support jumbo frames in v5.X. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: HI Scott, I bet you if you dropped a quick email with this question to Brian at Baltic networks you will get your answer. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz From: "Scott Carullo" To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 4:07:08 PM Subject: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question I know these are fairly popular routers so I was wondering if anyone has seen this issue before Mikrotik v5.24 or 5.25 - go to ethernet interface and open an interface, I can't increase the MTU size greater then the default 1500. Some of the Maxxwave routers I can. No rhyme or reason between them I can tell - some just allow the MTU change some don't. Not sure if this is MT fubar or some other issue with the device. Anyone? Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 18, Issue 36
arcflex 6 I think has two shields, you'd have to verify - and its cat6 outdoor cable I recently bought one box of every kind of cable I could to look at the difference... now I can't remember them all doh! Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Andris Bjornson" Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:57 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 18, Issue 36 On a related question: Does anyone know of a comparable product to Ubiquiti ToughCable Carrier? I have seen cases in which the double shielding has really made a difference for me: sites with lots of RF energy (TV, FM, etc) causing problems with the ethernet links with single shielded cable...problems went to 0 with the double shielded. I'm in the same boat as everyone else on the ToughCableI got bitten with lots of unexpected truck rolls and costs to deal with the non UV-stable cable, and don't feel great about continuing to use ToughCable. I haven't seen a comparable double shielded cable though. Thoughts? Thanks! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast
Piece of aluminum 5/16" thick maybe 12x12 inches or whatever suites you - I usually get them 8x12 so they fit on top of a wall nicely when needed. Drill 1/2" hole about an inch in from each corner. Weld an aluminum pipe to the middle about 2ft tall maybe 1" to 1-1/4 diameter. Drill small hole near base so water can get out. Take that and a tube of good silicone caulk and you can put a two foot pole that won't rust anywhere you want it (shingle, metal roof, soffit, wood panel, fiberglass, cement, stucco etc etc...) It wont come off, you don't have to drill any holes and you can explain that the roof under it is more waterproof and stronger than it was before you put it there. I should sell em and call then plop-a-pole's Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Joshua Zukerman" Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:58 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast Hello list, I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each. Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast? Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is needed. Won't ever need to go higher. Or do you have another suggestion for mounting? Thanks in advance, Josh ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Any suggestions for a 6Ghz 3ft dish with N connector single pol
I need to find something different than the Comscope (andrew) 3ft valueline dishes I have I'm not a fan of them Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Any suggestions for a 6Ghz 3ft dish with N connector single pol
The way they assemble (takes over an hour - too many parts to crud up over time etc)The way the wave guide is held to the rear, worst design I've come across yetHow small the mounting bracket is compared to radio waves and othersand so on in general... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Mike Lyon" Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:12 PM To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA General List" Cc: "wireless@wispa.org" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any suggestions for a 6Ghz 3ft dish with N connector single pol What don't you like about them? Im going to have to purchase a couple myself soon... -Mike Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2013, at 19:56, Scott Carullo wrote: I need to find something different than the Comscope (andrew) 3ft valueline dishes I have I'm not a fan of them Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Any suggestions for a 6Ghz 3ft dish with N connector single pol
I bought one beehive 11Ghz antenna set. I have them on my floor. I'll sell them really cheap - I'll never hang another set of those as long as I'm in business. Looks like they were a science fair project made in a garage. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Sean Heskett" Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 1:12 AM To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any suggestions for a 6Ghz 3ft dish with N connector single pol Check with wbmfg.com Sean On Monday, August 12, 2013, Scott Carullo wrote: I need to find something different than the Comscope (andrew) 3ft valueline dishes I have I'm not a fan of them Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Any suggestions for a 6Ghz 3ft dish with N connector single pol
Would probably work, and cost a thousand less, but it needs to be spec'd and licensable. Its crossed my mind more than once though..... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Gino Villarini" Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:52 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any suggestions for a 6Ghz 3ft dish with N connector single pol Use a 5 ghz? Lol!!! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any suggestions for a 6Ghz 3ft dish with N connector single pol No 3 foot in that band. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 13, 2013 1:12 AM, "Sean Heskett" wrote: Check with wbmfg.com Sean On Monday, August 12, 2013, Scott Carullo wrote: I need to find something different than the Comscope (andrew) 3ft valueline dishes I have I'm not a fan of them Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Can anyone refer an engineer to review / stamp 30ft rohn 25G tower
I have a tower that is 30ft - 3 sections of standard straight 10ft Rohn 25G There is a base plate pinned to cement sidewalk at bottom and attached to building with wall mount bracket 12 feet up with through-bolted galvanized steel 1/2" all thread to solid cement 8" thick I need documentation so I can get building permit Anyone who can tell me the easiest / quickest / cheapest way to accomplish this I would appreciate it. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] I need a hotel WiFi support 24x7 company
Checking to see if you all can recommend a company to provide guests support services for a 250 room hotel that is a client of ours. Any recommendations? Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Equipment for Fiber+Power to tower top
We have a general rule of not running ethernet up towers for lots of reasons. That said, you are forced to run power, or get it from an electrical junction box on larger towers. Once you have ran fiber and have power, might as well put all the goodies on the tower following the rule of not running cat5 up the tower you pretty much have to keep the stuff in the box - except the router. We find that the router is the most common part we upgrade and swap out, and occasionally have an issue with since its MT, so its downstairs along with the web power switch that can reboot the router or the whole tower. Power is your most critical component so get a good UPS, we use sine wave inverters with good quality 12v batteries and up top industrial din mount power supplies, fuses, power filters etc. Our boxes accept up to 3 standard rack mount devices (HP switch, Router if we put it up there, DLI power controller etc). Any way, we probably spend more on our boxes than most but some have been running over 10 years now without an issue. Estimated price per box with doesn't include any radios, routers etc - maybe $5k if you manufacture it all yourself. Double that if you pay an industrial controls company to do it for you. These things are like recipes, everyone has their flavor to suit their needs and most are a family secret ;) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Chris Fabien" Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 11:01 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] Equipment for Fiber+Power to tower top I am planning out a site where some of our radios have fiber interfaces and the rest are cat5. If we are running fiber up the tower, I think it makes sense to just put a switch and POE control at the top and run fiber up to that as well. My first thought is packetflux for POE control and a RB2011iLS-IN for the cat5->fiber. But this grade of equipment makes me a bit nervous putting up at 220ft on a tower. Is there better quality equipment I should be considering? This will be a major site for us so $1000 for a hardened switch or media converter would not be out of the question, if it's justified. Is it better in this approach to bring all the runs (via several fibers) down to a router at the base of the tower? This site is all wireless fed so we don't really need anything at the base other than power equipment, except for the ability to plug in for troubleshooting. Or should I just run power up top and put my router right up there too? Thanks for your suggestions. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Cambium ePMP1000 question about sync
I'm not familiar with cambiums new product or how their sync works so I have a question. If I purchase 4 APs with sectors that supports GPS sync... Do I have everything I need to utilize the sync feature between APs or is there additional hardware or accessories that I'd have to purchase to use the sync? What are the sync options? N & S AP on freq 5780 and E & W AP on 5830 for instance? Or will it support all APs even on one freq? Basic questions but I have not been able to find the answers on their online info. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] MPLS / Mikrotik Assistance Needed
Good morning. We are in need of anyone who has deployed MPLS across a WISP network of decent size to help us resolve a few issues we are having with our MPLS implementation. We have about 50 routers / towers involved, fairly meshed. I love and appreciate free advice that can help. I am willing to pay consultant(s) as well. My only problem to date - I can't seem to entice anyone into helping us - paid or otherwise. If you know how to implement MPLS on Mikrotik routers or know someone who does, please contact me, we would really appreciate some assistance. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] MPLS / Mikrotik Assistance Needed
Thanks Eric. Yes that thread and this email are related. Thanks for taking the time to email your thoughts, we will look into those specific issues. Do you see any issue running ROS 5.26 and 6.6 together with MPLS? We were going to use ROS 6.6 but had BGP issues when we upgraded to that so went back to 5.26 and BGP is happy now. Some hardware we have required v6 for the ethernet driver upgrade so the MTU could be set higher on some of our routers. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Eric Flanery" Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 11:41 AM To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA General List" , "us...@wispa.org" Cc: "Carullo, Scott" Subject: RE: [WISPA] MPLS / Mikrotik Assistance Needed Hi Scott, Assuming you are referring to this thread: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=78755 We have run into many issues with MPLS on x86 boxes, related to MTU, and found a few workarounds (none ideal). Placing a 'shim' VLAN, or two, between the physical ethernet interface and MPLS often seems to help. This does impact performance, but not as badly as running MPLS directly on the ethernet. This only ever seems to be necessary at the interfaces of x86 boxes, and whatever they attach to. Using only L2VPN/VPLS (no IP-over-MPLS or L3VPN), setting the MPLS MTU at 1492 or lower, and letting VPLS FAR handle fragmentation (it does a much better job than IP fragmentation, and is almost transparent to the end user). Again, this impacts performance, as it nearly doubles the number of frames that your transport links must carry. Move the MPLS boundary back, so that the x86 boxes are not participating. For us, this often required extra hardware. Also, make sure you are testing from and to boxes that are not participating in MPLS. I.e. test CE to CE, not PE to PE, or PE to CE; also, test UDP in addition to TCP. For some reason x86 boxes acting as PE routers often show far worse TCP performance than their actual forwarding performance. I've had some paths with x86 PEs that are easily able to move 300+Mbps CE to CE; but when testing between the PEs, the test maxes out at 5-6Mbps. Good luck. --Eric From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 7:45 AM To: wireless@wispa.org; us...@wispa.org Cc: Carullo, Scott Subject: [WISPA] MPLS / Mikrotik Assistance Needed Good morning. We are in need of anyone who has deployed MPLS across a WISP network of decent size to help us resolve a few issues we are having with our MPLS implementation. We have about 50 routers / towers involved, fairly meshed. I love and appreciate free advice that can help. I am willing to pay consultant(s) as well. My only problem to date - I can't seem to entice anyone into helping us - paid or otherwise. If you know how to implement MPLS on Mikrotik routers or know someone who does, please contact me, we would really appreciate some assistance. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street corner. Already seeing that in our areas do a wireless scan and you see 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones (they run dual band APs now). Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Bret Clark" Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:49 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. What could go wrong with Comcast taking up yet more 5GHz of spectrum...[/sarcasm off] On 11/14/2013 01:40 PM, ralph wrote: I hope the links at the bottom come through. --- Comcast needs the FCC to open up the 5 GHz spectrum band to power next-generation Wi-Fi services that could allow it to deliver wireless broadband at speeds of up to 1 Gbps, SVP of Business Development Tom Nagel testified at a House Energy and Commerce hearing on Wednesday. Nagel disclosed in his prepared testimony that Comcast has expanded the number of Wi-Fi access points for Xfinity high-speed Internet customers to 350,000. The nation's largest cable MSO also began deploying wireless gateways from Cisco earlier this year that Comcast has said may be able to power millions of neighborhood hotspots. While Comcast already is already using the 5 GHz band, Nagel said it needs more of the unlicensed spectrum to meet demand from subscribers for Wi-Fi. It faces potential opposition from Toyota and other automobile manufacturers who want to use the 5 GHz band to deliver next-generation connected car applications, including applications that would warn drivers of collision threats. Toyota principal researcher John Kenney raised concerns about possible interference from Wi-Fi services at Wednesday's hearing. "We have been actively engaged with the Wi-Fi community and other stakeholders who are exploring possible sharing solutions that will alleviate any risk of harmful interference from unlicensed devices. But we're not there yet and it's going to take a bit more time to see if we can get there," Kenney said in his prepared testimony. For more: - see Nagel's prepared testimony (.pdf) - see Kenney's prepared testimony (.pdf) - see Comcast blog post - Broadcasting & Cable has this story ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up - we all know things work better when its quiet. This used to worry me a lot when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already there and I had no idea until I just happened to scan on some radios (I don't usually install the stuff). I'm not worried any more, if its not one thing it will be another any way. Thats what gives us the edge every day, flexibility. We will work around it, we always do. I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE will continue to work fine. Their omni low gain antenna can't compete with a 20-30db directional one. Still sucks though, you drive down the street and see one after another running 5Ghz just knowing there probably isn't 3 connections in the whole city to them Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Matt Hoppes" Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA General List" Cc: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Are you seeing any impact from them? On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, "Scott Carullo" wrote: Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street corner. Already seeing that in our areas do a wireless scan and you see 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones (they run dual band APs now). Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Bret Clark" Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:49 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. What could go wrong with Comcast taking up yet more 5GHz of spectrum...[/sarcasm off] On 11/14/2013 01:40 PM, ralph wrote: I hope the links at the bottom come through. --- Comcast needs the FCC to open up the 5 GHz spectrum band to power next-generation Wi-Fi services that could allow it to deliver wireless broadband at speeds of up to 1 Gbps, SVP of Business Development Tom Nagel testified at a House Energy and Commerce hearing on Wednesday. Nagel disclosed in his prepared testimony that Comcast has expanded the number of Wi-Fi access points for Xfinity high-speed Internet customers to 350,000. The nation's largest cable MSO also began deploying wireless gateways from Cisco earlier this year that Comcast has said may be able to power millions of neighborhood hotspots. While Comcast already is already using the 5 GHz band, Nagel said it needs more of the unlicensed spectrum to meet demand from subscribers for Wi-Fi. It faces potential opposition from Toyota and other automobile manufacturers who want to use the 5 GHz band to deliver next-generation connected car applications, including applications that would warn drivers of collision threats. Toyota principal researcher John Kenney raised concerns about possible interference from Wi-Fi services at Wednesday's hearing. "We have been actively engaged with the Wi-Fi community and other stakeholders who are exploring possible sharing solutions that will alleviate any risk of harmful interference from unlicensed devices. But we're not there yet and it's going to take a bit more time to see if we can get there," Kenney said in his prepared testimony. For more: - see Nagel's prepared testimony (.pdf) - see Kenney's prepared testimony (.pdf) - see Comcast blog post - Broadcasting & Cable has this story ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
You can always go to the Japanese channels, they always seem to be nice and quiet ;) We have lots of Asian customers so we are allowed to use them in some areas... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Matt Hoppes" Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:59 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Yeah... this is why I always preach 20dB above the noise floor... signals in the 45 to 55 range. If you install in the 70s you have no where to go. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 11/14/13, 6:52 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: > Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up - we > all know things work better when its quiet. This used to worry me a lot > when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already there and I had > no idea until I just happened to scan on some radios (I don't usually > install the stuff). I'm not worried any more, if its not one thing it > will be another any way. Thats what gives us the edge every day, > flexibility. We will work around it, we always do. > > I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE will > continue to work fine. Their omni low gain antenna can't compete with a > 20-30db directional one. Still sucks though, you drive down the street > and see one after another running 5Ghz just knowing there probably isn't > 3 connections in the whole city to them > > Scott Carullo > Technical Operations > 855-FLSPEED x102 > > > > > *From*: "Matt Hoppes" > *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM > *To*: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA > General List" > *Cc*: "WISPA General List" > *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. > > Are you seeing any impact from them? > > On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, "Scott Carullo" <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>> wrote: > >> Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street corner. >> Already seeing that in our areas do a wireless scan and you see >> 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones (they run dual band APs >> now). >> >> Scott Carullo >> Technical Operations >> 855-FLSPEED x102 >> >> >> >> >> *From*: "Bret Clark" > <mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com>> >> *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:49 PM >> *To*: wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> >> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. >> >> What could go wrong with Comcast taking up yet more 5GHz of >> spectrum...[/sarcasm off] >> >> On 11/14/2013 01:40 PM, ralph wrote: >>> >>> I hope the links at the bottom come through. >>> >>> --- >>> >>> Comcast needs the FCC to open up the 5 GHz spectrum band to power >>> next-generation Wi-Fi services that could allow it to deliver >>> wireless broadband at speeds of up to 1 Gbps, SVP of Business >>> Development Tom Nagel testified at a House Energy and Commerce >>> hearing on Wednesday. >>> >>> Nagel disclosed in his prepared testimony that Comcast has expanded >>> the number of Wi-Fi access points for Xfinity high-speed Internet >>> customers to 350,000. The nation's largest cable MSO also began >>> deploying wireless gateways from Cisco earlier this year that Comcast >>> has said may be able to power millions of neighborhood hotspots. >>> >>> While Comcast already is already using the 5 GHz band, Nagel said it >>> needs more of the unlicensed spectrum to meet demand from subscribers >>> for Wi-Fi. It faces potential opposition from Toyota and other >>> automobile manufacturers who want to use the 5 GHz band to deliver >>> next-generation connected car applications, including applications >>> that would warn drivers of collision threats. >>> >>> Toyota principal researcher John Kenney raised concerns about >>> possible interference from Wi-Fi services at Wednesday's hearing. >>> "We have been actively engaged with the Wi-Fi community and other >>> stakeholders who are exploring possible sharing solutions that will >>> alleviate any risk of harmful interference from unlicensed devices. >>&
Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
Sure, why else would there be African bands... Of course its for the African customers. Silly question. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Robert" Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:24 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. So does that mean I can use the African bands for my S. African customers and etc...? On 11/14/2013 04:12 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: > You can always go to the Japanese channels, they always seem to be nice > and quiet ;) We have lots of Asian customers so we are allowed to use > them in some areas... > > Scott Carullo > Technical Operations > 855-FLSPEED x102 > > > > > *From*: "Matt Hoppes" > *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:59 PM > *To*: sc...@brevardwireless.com, "WISPA General List" > *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. > > Yeah... this is why I always preach 20dB above the noise floor... > signals in the 45 to 55 range. If you install in the 70s you have no > where to go. > > > Matt Hoppes > Director of Information Technology > Indigo Wireless > +1 (570) 723-7312 > > On 11/14/13, 6:52 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: >> Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up - we >> all know things work better when its quiet. This used to worry me a lot >> when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already there and I had >> no idea until I just happened to scan on some radios (I don't usually >> install the stuff). I'm not worried any more, if its not one thing it >> will be another any way. Thats what gives us the edge every day, >> flexibility. We will work around it, we always do. >> >> I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE will >> continue to work fine. Their omni low gain antenna can't compete with a >> 20-30db directional one. Still sucks though, you drive down the street >> and see one after another running 5Ghz just knowing there probably isn't >> 3 connections in the whole city to them >> >> Scott Carullo >> Technical Operations >> 855-FLSPEED x102 >> >> >> >> >> *From*: "Matt Hoppes" >> *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM >> *To*: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA >> General List" >> *Cc*: "WISPA General List" >> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. >> >> Are you seeing any impact from them? >> >> On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, "Scott Carullo" > <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>> wrote: >> >>> Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street corner. >>> Already seeing that in our areas do a wireless scan and you see >>> 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones (they run dual band APs >>> now). >>> >>> Scott Carullo >>> Technical Operations >>> 855-FLSPEED x102 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From*: "Bret Clark" >> <mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com>> >>> *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:49 PM >>> *To*: wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> >>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. >>> >>> What could go wrong with Comcast taking up yet more 5GHz of >>> spectrum...[/sarcasm off] >>> >>> On 11/14/2013 01:40 PM, ralph wrote: >>>> >>>> I hope the links at the bottom come through. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> Comcast needs the FCC to open up the 5 GHz spectrum band to power >>>> next-generation Wi-Fi services that could allow it to deliver >>>> wireless broadband at speeds of up to 1 Gbps, SVP of Business >>>> Development Tom Nagel testified at a House Energy and Commerce >>>> hearing on Wednesday. >>>> >>>> Nagel disclosed in his prepared testimony that Comcast has expanded >>>> the number of Wi-Fi access points for Xfinity high-speed Internet >>>> customers to 350,000. The nation's largest cable MSO also began >>>> deploying wireless gateways from Cisco earlier this year that Comcast >>>>
Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
I'm not talking about the ones in peoples homes, I'm talking about the ones the cable carrier hangs on the lines outside runing through the city on every corner clear LOS to every tower around. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Brian Webster" Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:24 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. One good thing about the higher bands and the noise floor is that free space loss works to your advantage. That being that a 5 GHz indoor Omni home AP router signal will fall off as an interference source as a much shorter distance than a 2.4 GHz device will. The laws of physics work in your favor. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:52 PM To: Matt Hoppes; sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up - we all know things work better when its quiet. This used to worry me a lot when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already there and I had no idea until I just happened to scan on some radios (I don't usually install the stuff). I'm not worried any more, if its not one thing it will be another any way. Thats what gives us the edge every day, flexibility. We will work around it, we always do. I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE will continue to work fine. Their omni low gain antenna can't compete with a 20-30db directional one. Still sucks though, you drive down the street and see one after another running 5Ghz just knowing there probably isn't 3 connections in the whole city to them Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Matt Hoppes" Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA General List" Cc: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Are you seeing any impact from them? On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, "Scott Carullo" wrote: Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street corner. Already seeing that in our areas do a wireless scan and you see 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones (they run dual band APs now). Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Bret Clark" Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:49 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. What could go wrong with Comcast taking up yet more 5GHz of spectrum...[/sarcasm off] On 11/14/2013 01:40 PM, ralph wrote: I hope the links at the bottom come through. --- Comcast needs the FCC to open up the 5 GHz spectrum band to power next-generation Wi-Fi services that could allow it to deliver wireless broadband at speeds of up to 1 Gbps, SVP of Business Development Tom Nagel testified at a House Energy and Commerce hearing on Wednesday. Nagel disclosed in his prepared testimony that Comcast has expanded the number of Wi-Fi access points for Xfinity high-speed Internet customers to 350,000. The nation's largest cable MSO also began deploying wireless gateways from Cisco earlier this year that Comcast has said may be able to power millions of neighborhood hotspots. While Comcast already is already using the 5 GHz band, Nagel said it needs more of the unlicensed spectrum to meet demand from subscribers for Wi-Fi. It faces potential opposition from Toyota and other automobile manufacturers who want to use the 5 GHz band to deliver next-generation connected car applications, including applications that would warn drivers of collision threats. Toyota principal researcher John Kenney raised concerns about possible interference from Wi-Fi services at Wednesday's hearing. "We have been actively engaged with the Wi-Fi community and other stakeholders who are exploring possible sharing solutions that will alleviate any risk of harmful interference from unlicensed devices. But we're not there yet and it's going to take a bit more time to see if we can get there," Kenney said in his prepared testimony. For more: - see Nagel's prepared testimony (.pdf) - see Kenney's prepared testimony (.pdf) - see Comcast blog post - Broadcasting & Cable has this story ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
I'm curious... is there any legal protection on open WiFi for SSID names? Every ATT device there is tries to connect to ATT WiFi (or whatever SSID they use) and you could setup your device with same SSID as someone else and cause issues. I'm just curious from a legal standpoint since its unlicensed no rules on SSID names what are the consequences.... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Matt Hoppes" Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 11:45 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. This is true... it also doesn't mean that COMPANY B can't deploy APs with COMPANY A's SSID and then charge or something wait... I didn't say that. On 11/15/13, 11:40 AM, Zach Mann wrote: > Oh btw, even tho COMPANY A deploys these AP's and broadcasts their own > SSID, doesn't mean the other players in town can't "pay" COMPANY A for > their own SSID for their subscribers. :) It will be interesting to > see how this all develops. > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Matt Hoppes > mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>> wrote: > > Right... I as well.. that's why I don't know what the answer is. > Everyone's in this game, but some just play (seemingly) unfair... for > example, it doesn't help anyone when you just go throwing up APs on > cable plants and blasting all over the town. > > On the other hand Comcast may say it doesn't make sence for you (the > WISP) to go sticking these high gain antennas up on the tower and > covering the town! > > > Matt Hoppes > Director of Information Technology > Indigo Wireless > +1 (570) 723-7312 > > On 11/15/13, 11:19 AM, Eric Flanery wrote: > > How would you 'legally' define a WISP? > > > > What would make Comcast 'not a WISP', if they are delivering > Internet over Wireless? > > > > If it's that they also deliver Internet over another medium, > would we (and many other providers) also be excluded because we also > deliver Internet over cable and fiber? > > > > If it's that they also provide TV service, then what about those > of us that also run transport, hosting, development, and > infrastructure services (examples among doubtless myriad others). > > > > Not that I wouldn't love some protected spectrum, I'm just having > a hard time imagining anything that would prevent Comcast and the > like from using it, while not also excluding quite a few of us. > > > > --Eric > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org > <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes > > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:04 AM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. > > > > Yes and no... I mean... yeah it's a pain to those of us trying to use > > the spectrum... but then again so is Comcast. > > > > This is exactly why there needs to be some sort of WISP only > spectrum... > > with laws carefully written so Comcast can't just say they are a > WISP. > > > > > > Matt Hoppes > > Director of Information Technology > > Indigo Wireless > > +1 (570) 723-7312 > > > > On 11/15/13, 11:02 AM, Robert wrote: > >> Spectrum trashers At least if there's no traffic on them there > >> shouldn't be much noise.. > >> > >> On 11/15/2013 06:26 AM, Zach Mann wrote: > >>> He's talking about these... (see attached) > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Scott Carullo > >>> mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com> > <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com > <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>>> wrote: > >>> > >>> I'm not talking about the ones in peoples homes, I'm > talking about > >>> the ones the cable carrier hangs on the lines outside > runing through > >>> the city on every corner clear LOS to every tower > around. > >>> > >>> Scott Carullo > >>> Technical Operatio
Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
Attach all the customers within blocks using their security services that don't have cable pulled. Or similar. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Matt Hoppes" Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 11:48 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. We can only hope for A/C 80MHz channels to spread the signal way out but also pollute more. The ridiculous thing is 5GHz doesn't go through buildings... what is Comcast attempting to do here? Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 11/15/13, 11:46 AM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) wrote: > Having had the privilege of living through PG&E's rollout of 900MHz > smart meters we will be impacted, it's just hard to say how much. > > The PG&E smart meters were essentially unity gain at full power. When it > got into the 10's of thousands the AP saw -60dB across the board at 10 > miles from the nearest smart meter. With 5GHz, we have a much higher FSL > and there will not be nearly as many withing a given sector. > > Making a few assumptions here: > Pole AP is 27dB into a 6dB omni at 30' off the ground > WISP sector antenna is 17dB at 200' off the ground > At 1 mile the WISP AP is going to see ~60dB. > > If comcast does succeed in getting more 5GHz spectrum, it will be good > for us as well as it will spread the noise out a bit lowering overall noise. > > Better come up with a plan now as we will be affected. Comcast, like > PG&E is going to tell you they are in compliance and to call their lawyers > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Matt Hoppes <mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>> wrote: > > Right... I as well.. that's why I don't know what the answer is. > Everyone's in this game, but some just play (seemingly) unfair... for > example, it doesn't help anyone when you just go throwing up APs on > cable plants and blasting all over the town. > > On the other hand Comcast may say it doesn't make sence for you (the > WISP) to go sticking these high gain antennas up on the tower and > covering the town! > > > Matt Hoppes > Director of Information Technology > Indigo Wireless > +1 (570) 723-7312 > > On 11/15/13, 11:19 AM, Eric Flanery wrote: > > How would you 'legally' define a WISP? > > > > What would make Comcast 'not a WISP', if they are delivering > Internet over Wireless? > > > > If it's that they also deliver Internet over another medium, > would we (and many other providers) also be excluded because we also > deliver Internet over cable and fiber? > > > > If it's that they also provide TV service, then what about those > of us that also run transport, hosting, development, and > infrastructure services (examples among doubtless myriad others). > > > > Not that I wouldn't love some protected spectrum, I'm just having > a hard time imagining anything that would prevent Comcast and the > like from using it, while not also excluding quite a few of us. > > > > --Eric > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org > <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes > > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:04 AM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. > > > > Yes and no... I mean... yeah it's a pain to those of us trying to use > > the spectrum... but then again so is Comcast. > > > > This is exactly why there needs to be some sort of WISP only > spectrum... > > with laws carefully written so Comcast can't just say they are a > WISP. > > > > > > Matt Hoppes > > Director of Information Technology > > Indigo Wireless > > +1 (570) 723-7312 > > > > On 11/15/13, 11:02 AM, Robert wrote: > >> Spectrum trashers At least if there's no traffic on them there > >> shouldn't be much noise.. > >> > >> On 11/15/2013 06:26 AM, Zach Mann wrote: > >>> He's talking about these... (see attached) > >>> > >>>
Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
I have both (evidence). Yes it helps protect from corrosion but it also can cause the sensitive ethernet to have issues depending on the quality and consistency of grease used. The little wires just use spring like pressure to connect, I've seen some thicker grease prevent good connection. I chose not to use it except for coax connectors or telephone lines - no ethernet. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 1:50 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease Some people are. Majority are not. No ones seems to have any evidence suggesting it helps but there hasn't been anything to show it hurts. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ wrote: Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it'sin English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless <> ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
They gave it a though... thats why they are full power ;) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Zach Mann" Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 11:19 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Coming from the WISP side, I asked them why they have these blasting at full power, 24/7 when the zone director surely could manage power levels when needed. I didn't get a answer. I don't think they even gave it a thought about who they might interfere with. On Friday, November 15, 2013, Robert wrote: Spectrum trashers At least if there's no traffic on them there shouldn't be much noise.. On 11/15/2013 06:26 AM, Zach Mann wrote: > He's talking about these... (see attached) > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Scott Carullo > mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>> wrote: > > I'm not talking about the ones in peoples homes, I'm talking about > the ones the cable carrier hangs on the lines outside runing through > the city on every corner clear LOS to every tower around. > > Scott Carullo > Technical Operations > 855-FLSPEED x102 > > > > > *From*: "Brian Webster" <mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com>> > *Sent*: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:24 AM > *To*: "WISPA General List" <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> > *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. > > One good thing about the higher bands and the noise floor is that > free space loss works to your advantage. That being that a 5 GHz > indoor Omni home AP router signal will fall off as an interference > source as a much shorter distance than a 2.4 GHz device will. The > laws of physics work in your favor. > > > > Thank You, > > Brian Webster > > www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com> > > www.Broadband-Mapping.com <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com> > > > > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org > <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org > <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Scott Carullo > *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:52 PM > *To:* Matt Hoppes; sc...@brevardwireless.com > <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>; WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. > > > > Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up - > we all know things work better when its quiet. This used to worry > me a lot when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already > there and I had no idea until I just happened to scan on some radios > (I don't usually install the stuff). I'm not worried any more, if > its not one thing it will be another any way. Thats what gives us > the edge every day, flexibility. We will work around it, we always do. > > I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE > will continue to work fine. Their omni low gain antenna can't > compete with a 20-30db directional one. Still sucks though, you > drive down the street and see one after another running 5Ghz just > knowing there probably isn't 3 connections in the whole city to them > > Scott Carullo > Technical Operations > 855-FLSPEED x102 > > > > > > *From*: "Matt Hoppes" <mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>> > *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM > *To*: "sc...@brevardwireless.com <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>" > mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>>, > "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> > *Cc*: "WISPA General List" <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> > *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. > > Are you seeing any impact from them? > > > On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, "Scott Carullo" > mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>> wrote: > > Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street > corner. Already seeing that in our areas do a wireless > scan and you see 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones > (they run dual band APs now). > > Scott Carullo > Technical Operations > 855-FLSPEED x102 >
Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
What brand do you use and where do you source it? Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Chuck Hogg" Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:13 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease We have been and it has eliminated ethernet issues due to bad cable or bad weatherproofing. I've seen where the cable jacket is messed up, water in the ethernet connector area, but because the grease was used it prevented the ethernet from failing. We've also seen issues where the LMR cabling fails or weather proofing fails and because of the grease, the same thing applies. We put it on every RJ45 and every RF connector for installs and tower work. Remember though, a little dab will do ya, no need to put a lot on it, otherwise it makes it a mess. There's a reason that all the big telco companies have been using it on phone lines for years.Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ wrote: Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it'sin English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless <> ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider
You really should do this yourself, especially if you can program a website Why pay someone else every day as your users sign up? Use mikrotik hotspot, clear box radius and a sql server. Then you write the code... its a little bit of work but then you control it completely and can attach to any merchant account / bank you choose. Or you could pay someone to set up your own then you still own and maintain it... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "ralph" Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:27 PM To: j...@mvn.net, "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider I have the contact info for the Owner/CoFounder of Wireless Orbit. I have been with them since they started in Palo Alto. I visited them there. Last week he did offer to sell me the Intellectual Property as well as to set up the system in my data center. There's at least one member (besides us) who is talking to them about acquiring the business. We are also looking at WiFiRush (formerly WiFiCPA). We can buy the VM version to run the system for $1000.00. Looks like it does a little more than Wireless Orbit. Ralph From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider Perhaps you could contact them to see about acquiring their business? Do you have contact information for them? John Scrivner On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:36 PM, ralph wrote: We've been using Wireless Orbit for our captive portal AAA and payments for years. Now they drop the bombshell that they will be closing in 2 weeks. Who is using something they can recommend? Requirements: Work with Mikrotik hotspot. Handles multiple locations, all different with different rules, settings, login pages, etc. Handles various payment plans and time limits. Supports Authorize.net Preferably has a flat cost, not a percentage like many of them do. Nice to haves: Can support auto login by MAC Allows users to associate browserless devices with their account. Aggregates simultaneous usage against the maximum set bandwidth (ie. If limit is 6 Mbps down and they have 4 devices running, each device can't use all 6 Mbps simultaneously.) MT User Manager is not an option- doesn't do multiple portals Not sure if the one Butch Evans sells will do it, I think the portals take custom code by the author to implement/change, but I am open to looking. Thanks Ralph ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators
Report back what you find If we all call they might increase the price due to popular demand :) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Mike Lyon" Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:46 PM To: "Terry Hickey" , "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators That looks pretty cool. I dug into it a little deeper to see where they are getting the TEGs from: http://www.globalte.com/products/GlobalTEGs/ I am wondering if one of these TEGs would be cheaper than getting a propane generator at ~$1900 I am going to request a quote... -Mike On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Terry Hickey wrote: Check this out http://www.neverfailsolar.com/From: Jerry Richardson (airCloud) Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 11:24 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com ; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators Check it out http://www.norwall.com/products/Generac-7kW-Air-Cooled-Standby-CorePower-Sys tem-Package.html?gdftrk=gdfV23267_a_7c1096_a_7c3327_a_7c5837&gclid=CK7y7ceB- boCFWxo7Aodg1AAaQ On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: Oops, you needan ATS Generac and others makes one about $2500 total we have not found anything smaller that is a complete automatic unit. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Mike Lyon" Sent: Wednesday, November20, 2013 5:00 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] LP /Propane generators While on my constant quest of trying to figure out my wonderfulpower situation, it made me think to look up LP/Propane generators.I found a pretty cool little RV one made by Cummins: http://goo.gl/ZSrscl Get one of these, drop it into a JOBOX or the alike, and problemsolved! Off to go find the price for it... -Mike -- Mike Lyon 408-621-4826mike.l...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon ___ Wirelessmailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Mike Lyon408-621-4826 mike.l...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators
Oops, you need an ATS Generac and others makes one about $2500 total we have not found anything smaller that is a complete automatic unit. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Mike Lyon" Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:00 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators While on my constant quest of trying to figure out my wonderful power situation, it made me think to look up LP/Propane generators. I found a pretty cool little RV one made by Cummins: http://goo.gl/ZSrscl Get one of these, drop it into a JOBOX or the alike, and problem solved! Off to go find the price for it... -Mike -- Mike Lyon408-621-4826 mike.l...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
Remember, I can buy 4 7Kw gensets instead of the one tiny TEG :) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "D. Ryan Spott" Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:15 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators Who was this from? Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG. ryan On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: > So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960 > plus a $300 mount. > > > It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free > Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal... > > -Mike > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
Steve, can you send me a link to the generator you purchased please. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Steve Utick" Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:57 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators We bought in inexpensive electric start LP gas generator ($650) and used one of these: http://www.packetflux.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9&products_ id=55 We've got a 24v charger plugged into the generator and attached to the battery array. We've got the controller set to auto start the generator if the batteries dip to a set voltage, and run for a pre-set amount of time and then shut off. We are about $1,000 into the whole setup. (Doesn't include the battery charger, that was already at the site) On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960 plus a $300 mount. It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal... -Mike ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
We use a lot more then 100w though typical tower has two licensed links, 6 sectors, a few other unlicensed backhauls and two 24 port hp switches with 2 SPFs each, a router, thermal fans on two separate boxes, 3 DLI remote rebooters etc How do you get away with 100w of power at a tower site? Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "D. Ryan Spott" Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:27 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators *Someone* lives in Florida and does not need a Snowcat or Snowmachine to get to his sites... Sometimes paying a little extra for always on and always working is a good thing. The maintenance on the TEG I have running is: light let run for 1-5 years clean jets relight repeat. No moving parts and always working is a bonus. :) ryan On 11/26/13 9:25 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: Remember, I can buy 4 7Kw gensets instead of the one tiny TEG :) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "D. Ryan Spott" Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:15 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators Who was this from? Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG. ryan On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: > So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960 > plus a $300 mount. > > > It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free > Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal... > > -Mike > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
For what it could cost for two or three of those for backup power to a site I can pay a guy on welfare to guard the site, remote reboot, and pedal the gen-bike when the lights go out for less per year :) Saves tax money too... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Terry Hickey" Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:51 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators If I remember correctly the 5120 TEG is 120 W. We had 2 per tower site. From: Scott Carullo Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:36 PM To: D. Ryan Spott ; sc...@brevardwireless.com ; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators We use a lot more then 100w though typical tower has two licensed links, 6 sectors, a few other unlicensed backhauls and two 24 port hp switches with 2 SPFs each, a router, thermal fans on two separate boxes, 3 DLI remote rebooters etc How do you get away with 100w of power at a tower site? Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "D. Ryan Spott" Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:27 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators *Someone* lives in Florida and does not need a Snowcat or Snowmachine to get to his sites... Sometimes paying a little extra for always on and always working is a good thing. The maintenance on the TEG I have running is: light let run for 1-5 years clean jets relight repeat. No moving parts and always working is a bonus. :) ryan On 11/26/13 9:25 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: Remember, Ican buy 4 7Kw gensets instead of the one tiny TEG :) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "D. Ryan Spott" mailto:rsp...@irongoat.net Sent:Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:15 AM To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject:Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators Who was thisfrom? Remember there is ZERO maintenance on aTEG. ryan On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: > So iheard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960 > plus a$300 mount. > > > It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propanegenset for $1900 with free > Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a betterdeal... > > -Mike >___ > Wireless mailinglist > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wirelessmailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Who has service in MESA AZ
Hit me off list please I need a circuit for a customer. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Who has service in Windsor Locks, CT
Hit me off list please I need a circuit for a customer. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Who has service in Louisville, KY
Hit me off list please I need a circuit for a customer. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Yep, we use ligowave gear. I can usually count on it providing 50-100mb with 20mb channel if not a lot of interference. for 200fdx you have one real option. buy yourself a SAF licensed link 11Ghz 2ft dishes high powered. You can get a license as quick as you can buy and setup the gear. If you think otherwise you should call me I can help you with getting the gear and the license. Only way to fly and for less than 10K you have all of it bought, delivered, licensed and installed in about 2-3 weeks. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Faisal Imtiaz" Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:38 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Anyone with first-hand experience in this type of setup ? http://www.ligowave.com/ligoptp-5-23-unity Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: "Ian Framson" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 8:10:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? Ian Framson Co-founder www.tradeshowinternet.com i...@tradeshowinternet.com (866) 385-1504 x701 (818) 590-7475 mobile (415) 704-3153 fax Connect With Us ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Number's that can't port to VOIP
All numbers can be ported, IMO. If you would like me to pull them for you hit me offlist. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Josh Reynolds" Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 7:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Number's that can't port to VOIP We've found that we can't get anything ported here in Alaska... something to do with agreements that Alaska Communications Systems and GCI did. 907-226 907-299 907-399Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 03/27/2014 03:04 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: On 3/27/2014 5:57 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: We've got a local Telco and Frontier prefixed that we can't port to ANY voip provider, only to cellular providers. No one has been able to find a way to port these prefixes or some other ones I didn't list here. 507-634 507-635 507-365 Ah, the world-famous Kasson and Mantorville Telephone Company! :-) Those tiny ones can be tough. They are in LATA 620 but subtend the Plymouth tandem, which is in Minneapolis LATA 628. Odd, but there are a number of those exchanges in the Rochester LATA. That tandem belongs to Minnesota Equal Access, a sort of CLEC that runs a tandem on behalf of many small ILECs. Maybe they could help you. Their prefix codes are local but a CLEC generally needs an interconnection agreement with them, and I doubt many have them. Just not worth the bother. But I do see Mantorville numbers belonging to Sprint-CLEC, MCC, and bandwidth.com. So they may have arrangements. 507-528 507-527 Those are Frontier Citizens, the old (not ex-GTE) rural ILEC. Portable but not pooled. Both remotes of the Kenyon switch, on CLQwest's Owatonna tandem. Jaguar Communications is the only CLEC with Claremont numbers; Sprint and MCC have West Concord numbers. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: On 3/27/2014 3:11 PM, Chris Fabien wrote: This is the adjacent rate center to one of our main service areas, it is a local call. Different telco though. As a general rule, any rate center's numbers can be made portable if they aren't already so. It can worst case take six moths to implement. But that was usually done long ago. However, in order to port a number into a rate center, the carrier (CLEC) needs connectivity to the tandem switch that serves that rate center, which may belong to the ILEC in that rate center, or a third ILEC, not the one in the bigger exchange next door. If you tell me the rate centers in question I may be able to determine that for you. CenturyTel[/link] is notorious for being uncooperative, hoping state regulators let them bend the rules their way. And some rural ILECs think they're exempt from interconnection rules, though they're not. So it would not be surprising if the underlying CLECs just don't touch those RCs. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:Typically, you can check to the local calling guide and if the rate center with the numbers is local to a rate center your providers are in, you should be good to go. YMMV. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Chris Fabien" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:01:38 PM Subject: [WISPA] Number's that can't port to VOIPWe have a customer on fringe of a rural Century Tel area and both of our voip providers came back saying they were unable to port the number for us. Are there remote areas where you still can't port a number? Is there a way to find out if anyone can port this number? Like a master list or database I can search? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Fred R. Goldstein k1io fred "at" interisle.net Interisle Consulting Group +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Fred R. Goldstein k1io fred "at" interisle.net Interisle Consulting Group +1 617 795 2701
[WISPA] Giant Florida Swamp Woodpecker Damage
The giant FL Swamp Woodpecker, know locally as a Swamp-pecker, got a hold of this power bridge http://cdn.141networks.com/images/PBM5-Blown-Up.jpg Now normally that would bother me, but since the UBNT radios don't handle MPLS packets normally I would have had to replace this any way with another vendor radio that doesn't try to QOS everything without permission. For more info: http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMax-General-Discussion/Airmax-QOS-Deprioritz ing-traffic-when-using-MPLS-VPLS/m-p/708575#M38896 Seriously, UBNT needs to address / acknowledge / fix this. And that was a lightning bolt yesterday took out the radio. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Air Force Base / KSC Launch RFI Question
Good morning, We operate between two local Air Force bases and near KSC as well. We were notified recently that the AFB has resorted to using an older radar system that was previously retired due to the newer range radar system catching fire or something to that effect. During the two months or so the repairs are expected to take we have had several space launches scheduled during this window from CCAFS / KSC. The USAF has fired up the old radar and has recently contacted us asking about equipment we have in the area at customer premises. I asked the frequency coordinator what freq their radar uses he said the center freq was 5735 and that it had a very wide bandwidth of like 100 Mhz basically taking the whole ISM/UNII bands worth of spectrum in 5Ghz. So any way to the point... When the USAF shows up and says hey, I see you are using FCC approved equipment in accordance to the FCC spectrum rules the equipment was designed to operate in on freq 5765Mhz - but I need you to turn it off to see if its your equipment we are seeing - and if it is please change freq "preferably below 5600 MHz or above 5850 MHz" (actual quoted request). Obviously we can't accommodate their request for several reasons,most notably because the equipment nor the FCC allows it. I'm just curious if any of you have had anything like this happen and what your response was / would be. I try to be a nice neighbor and work with them any way possible but them trying to shut down the whole 5Ghz non-licensed upper band all our equipment uses (including every other cable and wireline providers wifi 5Ghz equipment in the county) to work their range RFI issues is a bit much and ultimately unattainable within the 3 days they have left prior to launch, IMO. Any insight or suggestions you smart fellers have would be appreciated. I am particularly interested in those more intimate with FCC rules regarding this situation. Do I have to comply? Do they have legal justification to just say - turn it off... etc Thanks... I appreciate your time in responding. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM
I've never been a fan of anything grandstream has ever made so I wouldn't go there. JMO Get some other solution for the PBX (running your own software on a nice little atom works great / some flavor of asterisk) and do yourself a favor and pick up some yealink phones. The name kept me away from the longest time but I have tried dozens of phones and right now a T46G is on my desk and I won't give it up. Great price too. Best phone I have ever used and previously I had polycom soundpoint 650. This one hands down is a better solution and its half the price. Sh... don't tell everyone I need them in stock! Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Chris Fabien" Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 1:29 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM It seems like a box on site would make routing/nat issues easier to manage especially for customers who may not have our Internet or want to keep a second internet provider for redundancy. It seems like a bunch of ip phones behind nat connecting up to our switch or a hosted solution would be problematic. If you have a suggestion on a solid solution i'm all ears, want to learn whats available and how others are doing this. On May 14, 2014 1:21 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: Why do you want to put a 'box' on-site ? Why not hosted PBX, and have IP Phones ? Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: "Chris Fabien" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:40:10 PM Subject: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM Anyone tried out this Grandstream IP PBX? Looking for a low cost option we can use for small businesses with 4-8 phones. Also need to redo our office phones so I have a nice chance to try out a new product before selling one to a customer. Any suggestions other than the grandstream are welcome too. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM
Oh yeah - I should have noted - we have one running at customer site for 16 phones and its a blueberry pie or whatever those things are called lol. Cost less than 100 bucks and we even have two network interfaces on them (one usb) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Bryce Duchcherer" Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:16 PM To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA General List" Subject: RE: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM I have one of these coming in to try out, they're dirt cheap and are supposed to be decent. They support up to 8 calls and are supposed to run on asterisk. http://www.atcom.cn/IP02.html Bryce D NETAGO From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 16:08 To: WISPA General List; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM I've never been a fan of anything grandstream has ever made so I wouldn't go there. JMO Get some other solution for the PBX (running your own software on a nice little atom works great / some flavor of asterisk) and do yourself a favor and pick up some yealink phones. The name kept me away from the longest time but I have tried dozens of phones and right now a T46G is on my desk and I won't give it up. Great price too. Best phone I have ever used and previously I had polycom soundpoint 650. This one hands down is a better solution and its half the price. Sh... don't tell everyone I need them in stock! Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Chris Fabien" Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 1:29 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM It seems like a box on site would make routing/nat issues easier to manage especially for customers who may not have our Internet or want to keep a second internet provider for redundancy. It seems like a bunch of ip phones behind nat connecting up to our switch or a hosted solution would be problematic. If you have a suggestion on a solid solution i'm all ears, want to learn whats available and how others are doing this. On May 14, 2014 1:21 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: Why do you want to put a 'box' on-site ? Why not hosted PBX, and have IP Phones ? Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: "Chris Fabien" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:40:10 PM Subject: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM Anyone tried out this Grandstream IP PBX? Looking for a low cost option we can use for small businesses with 4-8 phones. Also need to redo our office phones so I have a nice chance to try out a new product before selling one to a customer. Any suggestions other than the grandstream are welcome too. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 50Mb highly symmetrical service in Dallas, Texas
3900 Vitruvian Way Addison Dallas, Texas 75001 Hit me off list thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 50Mb highly symmetrical service in Mission Viejo, California 92692
28650 Los Alisos Blvd Mission Viejo, California 92692 Hit me off list thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz
I am following up in hopes that some of you smart fellas can offer suggestions. Recap: USAF Calls / emails asking to please identify all 5Ghz emitters operating on or near 5765Mhz and either turn them off or change RF settings to not fall under that category so that RFI to their tracking radar can be reduced. How the radar works: Apparently the radar has multiple modes for tracking / interrogating space-bound craft. In its primary mode, it sends a pulse out on 5672Mhz and then listens for the echo (normal radar operation). It then has another mode, where it sends an interrogation request to the vehicle (satellite / rocket etc) on 5690Mhz and then listens for a reply from the vehicle on 5765Mhz at least for some commercial space launches. DoD military launches etc. also are tracked / interrogated this same way but the listen freq. is something other than 5765Mhz (probably classified). So - the prob the USAF has with RFI is related to hearing the vehicle interrogation response on 5765Mhz - and only while sitting on the pad and the first few seconds of flight. A few seconds after launch, the gigantic parabolic dish (~65db gain on 5Ghz) with its <1deg beam-width has effectively muted out most of the RFI to the sides as it starts to track up. We (and others / cable company etc) worked with them to not only re-program our equipment we felt could be causing RFI to their radar, but to track down others we could see operating equipment centered on their 5765Mhz freq. We were able to continue this process until the radar was able to track / interrogate successfully, from what information I was relayed. We attempted to work with them to be good neighbors and hopefully avoid a situation where we were told all emitters regardless of their effect on the radar (even ones that were not causing them issues) would need to be removed from service in some fashion. Here we are today. The USAF has now decided to create a 60Km zone around each of their tracking radars and request that we not only keep equipment off the 5765Mhz they listen on but everything in the range from 5630 - 5800 Mhz just for good measure. I feel such a blanket request is not reasonable. Cut and past from their DoD Eastern Area Frequency Coordination Office: === Mr WISP, I received the 5 GHz exclusion the range is requesting around their radars (Graphic available here: http://flhsi.com/files/radar.PNG ). The spheres are centered on each radar and have a radius of 60 km. No emitters in these spheres should be allowed to transmit from 5630 - 5800 MHz. I am drafting up a request for public notice to FCC today. When approved, I will let you know. === So my question is this Is it realistic or even remotely possible this becomes an FCC official rule? I would ask anyone / everyone with a vested interest in this (do you use 5Ghz?) to respond. Thank you for your time. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Scott Carullo" Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 12:02 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Air Force Base / KSC Launch RFI Question Good morning, We operate between two local Air Force bases and near KSC as well. We were notified recently that the AFB has resorted to using an older radar system that was previously retired due to the newer range radar system catching fire or something to that effect. During the two months or so the repairs are expected to take we have had several space launches scheduled during this window from CCAFS / KSC. The USAF has fired up the old radar and has recently contacted us asking about equipment we have in the area at customer premises. I asked the frequency coordinator what freq their radar uses he said the center freq was 5735 and that it had a very wide bandwidth of like 100 Mhz basically taking the whole ISM/UNII bands worth of spectrum in 5Ghz. So any way to the point... When the USAF shows up and says hey, I see you are using FCC approved equipment in accordance to the FCC spectrum rules the equipment was designed to operate in on freq 5765Mhz - but I need you to turn it off to see if its your equipment we are seeing - and if it is please change freq "preferably below 5600 MHz or above 5850 MHz" (actual quoted request). Obviously we can't accommodate their request for several reasons,most notably because the equipment nor the FCC allows it. I'm just curious if any of you have had anything like this happen and what your response was / would be. I try to be a nice neighbor and work with them any way possible but them trying to shut down the whole 5Ghz non-licensed upper band all our equipment uses (including every other cable and wireline providers wifi 5Ghz equipment in the county) to work their range RFI issues is a bit much and ultimately unattai
Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz
One reply off-list: Just wanted to share for the benefit of this discussion 1. Why do you think the spectrum is "license free". It cannot be licensed by the FCC, it still belongs to NTIA, who manages Federal spectrum. 2.The FCC secured a grant from NTIA for the use of spectrum, ON A SECONDARY BASIS, for civilian use. There are chunks of this all across the spectrum from DC to light. 3. If the feds need it of any purpose they have the right to demand all secondary users vacate the spectrum. 4. For use as a business model, this is a risk that one MUST manage. Have an amount of licensed spectrum to keep operational with diminished capacity while feds are sitting on your un-licensed stuff. 5. Radar used for national defense takes precedence over everything. Even those on adjacent licensed spectrum can be impacted when some of these radar units fire up. These users can contact the local NTIA frequency management office and report the interference and the feds have to "minimize the interference", but their mission cannot be compromised. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Patrick Leary" Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 12:13 PM To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA General List" Subject: RE: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz I'd be shocked if the military could claim unilateral authority for restricting 170 MHz of long-established ISM spectrum (nor 120 MHz of UNII). I hope we read an authoritative opinion via from Steve Coran. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 11:52 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz I am following up in hopes that some of you smart fellas can offer suggestions. Recap: USAF Calls / emails asking to please identify all 5Ghz emitters operating on or near 5765Mhz and either turn them off or change RF settings to not fall under that category so that RFI to their tracking radar can be reduced. How the radar works: Apparently the radar has multiple modes for tracking / interrogating space-bound craft. In its primary mode, it sends a pulse out on 5672Mhz and then listens for the echo (normal radar operation). It then has another mode, where it sends an interrogation request to the vehicle (satellite / rocket etc) on 5690Mhz and then listens for a reply from the vehicle on 5765Mhz at least for some commercial space launches. DoD military launches etc. also are tracked / interrogated this same way but the listen freq. is something other than 5765Mhz (probably classified). So - the prob the USAF has with RFI is related to hearing the vehicle interrogation response on 5765Mhz - and only while sitting on the pad and the first few seconds of flight. A few seconds after launch, the gigantic parabolic dish (~65db gain on 5Ghz) with its <1deg beam-width has effectively muted out most of the RFI to the sides as it starts to track up. We (and others / cable company etc) worked with them to not only re-program our equipment we felt could be causing RFI to their radar, but to track down others we could see operating equipment centered on their 5765Mhz freq. We were able to continue this process until the radar was able to track / interrogate successfully, from what information I was relayed. We attempted to work with them to be good neighbors and hopefully avoid a situation where we were told all emitters regardless of their effect on the radar (even ones that were not causing them issues) would need to be removed from service in some fashion. Here we are today. The USAF has now decided to create a 60Km zone around each of their tracking radars and request that we not only keep equipment off the 5765Mhz they listen on but everything in the range from 5630 - 5800 Mhz just for good measure. I feel such a blanket request is not reasonable. Cut and past from their DoD Eastern Area Frequency Coordination Office: === Mr WISP, I received the 5 GHz exclusion the range is requesting around their radars (Graphic available here: http://flhsi.com/files/radar.PNG ). The spheres are centered on each radar and have a radius of 60 km. No emitters in these spheres should be allowed to transmit from 5630 - 5800 MHz. I am drafting up a request for public notice to FCC today. When approved, I will let you know. === So my question is this Is it realistic or even remotely possible this becomes an FCC official rule? I would ask anyone / everyone with a vested interest in this (do you use 5Ghz?) to respond. Thank you for your ti
Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz
Does this work: Scott Connolley, GS-13, DAF DoD Eastern Area Frequency Coordination Office 45 Space Communications Squadron Patrick Air Force Base Florida COMM: (321) 494-5838 DSN 854 scott.connol...@us.af.mil Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Jack Unger" Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 12:20 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz Guys, I'm working on getting some clarification on this issue. Let's try to hold off on the public speculation for a little while on this very public email list while I try to get more information. If anyone has additional concrete information, please email it to me. Specifically, does anyone have a link to DoD Eastern Area Frequency Coordination Office? Thanks, jack On 6/2/2014 9:13 AM, Patrick Leary wrote: I'd be shocked if the military could claim unilateral authority for restricting 170 MHz of long-established ISM spectrum (nor 120 MHz of UNII). I hope we read an authoritative opinion via from Steve Coran. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 11:52 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz I am following up in hopes that some of you smart fellas can offer suggestions. Recap: USAF Calls / emails asking to please identify all 5Ghz emitters operating on or near 5765Mhz and either turn them off or change RF settings to not fall under that category so that RFI to their tracking radar can be reduced. How the radar works: Apparently the radar has multiple modes for tracking / interrogating space-bound craft. In its primary mode, it sends a pulse out on 5672Mhz and then listens for the echo (normal radar operation). It then has another mode, where it sends an interrogation request to the vehicle (satellite / rocket etc) on 5690Mhz and then listens for a reply from the vehicle on 5765Mhz at least for some commercial space launches. DoD military launches etc. also are tracked / interrogated this same way but the listen freq. is something other than 5765Mhz (probably classified). So - the prob the USAF has with RFI is related to hearing the vehicle interrogation response on 5765Mhz - and only while sitting on the pad and the first few seconds of flight. A few seconds after launch, the gigantic parabolic dish (~65db gain on 5Ghz) with its <1deg beam-width has effectively muted out most of the RFI to the sides as it starts to track up. We (and others / cable company etc) worked with them to not only re-program our equipment we felt could be causing RFI to their radar, but to track down others we could see operating equipment centered on their 5765Mhz freq. We were able to continue this process until the radar was able to track / interrogate successfully, from what information I was relayed. We attempted to work with them to be good neighbors and hopefully avoid a situation where we were told all emitters regardless of their effect on the radar (even ones that were not causing them issues) would need to be removed from service in some fashion. Here we are today. The USAF has now decided to create a 60Km zone around each of their tracking radars and request that we not only keep equipment off the 5765Mhz they listen on but everything in the range from 5630 - 5800 Mhz just for good measure. I feel such a blanket request is not reasonable. Cut and past from their DoD Eastern Area Frequency Coordination Office: === Mr WISP, I received the 5 GHz exclusion the range is requesting around their radars (Graphic available here: http://flhsi.com/files/radar.PNG ). The spheres are centered on each radar and have a radius of 60 km. No emitters in these spheres should be allowed to transmit from 5630 - 5800 MHz. I am drafting up a request for public notice to FCC today. When approved, I will let you know. === So my question is this Is it realistic or even remotely possible this becomes an FCC official rule? I would ask anyone / everyone with a vested interest in this (do you use 5Ghz?) to respond. Thank you for your time. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -------- From: "Scott Carullo" Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 12:02 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Air F
Re: [WISPA] Backend systems
Just FYI... We use linux and windows. They all run for years without problems. Not sure what you guys are doing to cause any server to have problems once a week but its your problem not windows. Most likely hardware or lack of understanding of the person managing it. Its silly to think any main stream OS is incapable of operating properly and reliably. I use and support both OSs so don't let this spin out of control to an OS discussion. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Scottie Arnett" Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 12:35 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backend systems I am way behind on this threadBut I can say I ran Windows servers from 1999 - 2008 for almost everything. I have moved everything to Linux in the last 2 years because of the problems I have had with Window's servers. The only system I still have running Windows is our billing server, and that is only because I have not taken the steps to go to a different billing system. I can say that I had at least 2 to 3(most of the time way more) notifications of Windows servers hosting web or mail BEING DOWN EVERY MONTH! Since I started hosting the websites and mail server on Linux in the last two years, I have never had a cell phone alert that anything is down! I have became a follower. I was one of those believers that though M$ was the $hit, wrong answer! The internet world was created on Unix and every server you have on the net should be Unix or a Linux variant! Scott - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backend systems I'm sure many share my experience, similarly or identically. I have several Linux servers (http, monitoring, mysql/php, etc). Never an issue with any of them. One Windows server - for ONLY Quickbooks. I have issues with it at least once a week. Updates reboot it and configuration is lost. Rights to add a printer for the CPA. Rights for IE's security permissions. Disk filled up with 10 gigabytes of Windows junk (updates I'm guessing). It's just a mess. Defend Windows as much as you want, but you can't deny Windows servers tend to cost more time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: > Very Well Said Mark Nash. All servers, OS, and software have a learning > Curve. I know nothing of Linux. Not because the desire is not there, the > time isn't. There are things that I could manage better with a few free > apps and Linux servers. But to this point at <700 clients I haven't needed > it and I will be looking into that in the future. > > > Steve Barnes > RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mark Nash > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:04 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backend systems > > Nice Shane... How about a server with no NIC. Now THAT would be a secure > server, mostly. But what if a user got to the keyboard? Pull the power > supply, now they'll surely not be able to break in... WAIT! > There's still data on the hard drive! Better erase that... > > Dude, this is meant to be in jest, and to make a point. I don't currently > run any Windows servers due to the engineer that we had in our office > (which we now don't have so we have to rely on outside consultants for > Linux expertise). But I ran on them for the first 7 years with our mail > server, web server, DNS servers, etc. > > Anyway... > > Flame on about Windows servers, people, but the small business world runs > on them. For those of you who own your WISPs and don't know anything about > servers, don't listen to sensational hype. Take a sensible and tactical > approach and do what's right for your business. > Any server is just a tool. Pluses & minuses. You have to do a cost/benefit > analysis with a server just as you would which kind of radio to use in the > field, or who to hire to answer your phones. > > On 12/7/2010 7:47 AM, Shane MacDonald wrote: >> I get scared when I hear "Windows" and "Software" in the same sentence. >> Then when you add "Server" I usually run. >> >> Shane MacDonald >> KP Performance Antennas >> >> >> On 7-Dec-10, at 8:11 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote: >> >>> We used Rodopi. If you can handle the fact that its Windows and >>> ASP.NET and MSSQL server
[WISPA] 11Ghz Licensing Warning Question
Comsearch has this to say on one of the sites in coordination, anyone know what it is supposed to mean? They are closed now, I'm not being patient sry :) Path Warnings Document FCC Rule Part(s) Description Result / Action N/A site1 Radio Equipped with Adaptive Modulation. Review Radio Parameters N/A site2 Radio Equipped with Adaptive Modulation. Review Radio Parameters 101.31 (b) (1) (ii) site1 - ASR may be required based on C/L Height. Verify/Change Antenna Height or File with FAA N/A site1 Failed Glide Slope or Height requirement. Verify/Change Antenna Height or File with FAA Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity UniFi Dual Band Radios
What makes you think they are dual band radios? Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Jerry Richardson" Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 7:23 PM To: "motor...@afmug.com" , "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquity UniFi Dual Band Radios Any sign these are at least on the boat? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 11Ghz Licensing Warning Question
Like who, because I have to tell you Comsearch was the lowest price license
I've ever done and the best experience. How about providing some info on
who you recommend. I've only done a few links so I don't have a lot to go
on. Thanks
Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102
From: "Bob Moldashel"
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 3:16 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 11Ghz Licensing Warning Question
FYI
There are a lot cheaper coordinators out there than Comsearch. This
is like buying a Escalade and then buying replacement tires from the
dealer.
Just a comment...
-B-
On 1/7/2011 7:54 AM, michael mulcay wrote:
Adaptive modulation is
the subject of an FCC NPRM WT Docket 10-153. Can you lock
the equipment in a non adaptive mode?
Mike
Wireless Strategies Inc
831-601-0086
From:
wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott
Carullo
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:46 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] 11Ghz Licensing Warning Question
Comsearch
has this to say on one of the sites in coordination, anyone
know what it is supposed to mean? They are closed now, I'm
not being patient sry :)
Path Warnings
Document
FCC Rule
Part(s)
Description
Result /
Action
N/A
site1 Radio Equipped
with Adaptive Modulation.
Review
Radio Parameters
N/A
site2 Radio Equipped
with Adaptive Modulation.
Review
Radio Parameters
101.31 (b)
(1) (ii)
site1 - ASR may be
required based on C/L Height.
Verify/Change
Antenna Height or File with FAA
N/A
site1 Failed Glide
Slope or Height requirement.
Verify/Change
Antenna Height or File with FAA
Thanks
Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102
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[WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question
For the first time I synchronized multiple devices (two backhauls) at a tower site to see what it was all about. All of our gear in the past did not have the capability to sync across devices to save spectrum and/or reduce interference between local devices. In this case I used two Radwin 2000C backhauls with a sync cable between them. Setting up the sync between them was easy however the first thing I noticed was that the available bandwidth was cut in half. Is this typical of all synced units? I guess there would be no more reduction in speed after the first two radios synced because if there were more they would all fire at the same time any way. Did I loose bandwidth because they were in MIMO mode rather than Diversity mode or is the slowdown just a function of the timing reduction to keep things clean? Is the UBNT GPS sync gear going to provide less throughput than I currently experience when their new sync capable gear comes out? Thanks, just trying to get some feedback to learn more about how Syncing devices affects their performance. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question
Its safe to assume that the newer firmware with sync with UBNT will only work with the newer gen hardware with the gps support right. Is there any functionality that works like the radwin radios where the two local units speak sync between them without GPS? Even having the ability to sync two radios back to back to reuse spectrum would be really nice. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: m...@tc3net.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 1:19 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question Yes, it is layer3/udp, but it is in flux. They are implementing backup masters as well. Regards Michael Baird - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 1:16:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question It's UDP now. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/10/2011 11:54 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Right, allows sync between GROUPS. GROUPS can be as large as you want as long as the MASTER can be reached via Layer2 in less than 30ms. If you have two GROUPS (for example two tower sites) that can hear each other but can't be reached via Layer2 or latency goes above 30ms between them, then the MASTERS at both towers will need to have fixed DL% UBNT's GPS implementation is a little different than we are used to, but I like that they did away with the CMM concept. I am not sure I like the ide of depending on one radio for MASTER sync information. I would like to see some code that allows for failover. Something like: - APRadio1 is MASTER/MASTER - APRadio2 is SLAVE/MASTER The rest of the SLAVES in the group look at APRadio11 for sync info and if it's not there look at APRadioMAC2 - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question Ubiquiti's next software release is supposed to have dynamic ratios with sync. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/10/2011 11:25 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Yes, with wifi based radio systems you can see less throughput with sync than without. With Canopy the DL% is fixed regardless if the AP is getting the sync pulse from GPS or generating it itself. i.e. if you set the DL% to 75% it's fixed regardless if the bandwidth is being used or not. With .11 radios the DL% is dynamic and will adjust according to demand (which is why they are NOT in sync with other .11 radios). When you sync them, the DL is no longer dynamic. So if you had a .11-based BH that has 90% downlink traffic and force it to sync the DL% may only be 50% which would look like half. Does that help? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 7:31 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com ; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question I do not know how the Radwin Sync works. With Canopy, you do not lose bandwidth unless you do not have the timing the same. You can adjust settings in such a way as to not step on yourself and still have different bandwidth profiles with Canopy. I do not see why sync would lose any bandwidth, unless it is cause now you only have X Transit tie and Y receive tie instead of X+%Y. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Scott Carullo < sc...@brevardwireless.com > wrote: For the first time I synchronized multiple devices (two backhauls) at a tower site to see what it was all about. All of our gear in the past did not have the capability to sync across devices to save spectrum and/or reduce interference between local devices. In this case I used two Radwin 2000C backhauls with a sync cable between them. Setting up the sync between them was easy however the first thing I noticed was that the available bandwidth was cut in half. Is this typical of all synced units? I guess there would be no more reduction in speed after the first two radios synced because if there were more they would all fire at the same time any way. Did I loose bandwidth because they were in MIMO mode rather than Diversity mode or is the slowdown just a function of the timing reduction to keep things clean? Is the UBNT GPS sync gear going to provide less throughput than I currently experience when their new sync capable gear comes out? Thanks, just trying to get some feedback to learn more about how Syncing devices affects their performance. Scott Carullo Tech
[WISPA] AM Tower Question
I ran a shielded shireen ethernet cable up a tower today about 50-60 feet maybe, the cable itself was maybe twice that length to run into a building. While the cable was being hoisted up I was holding the end and it got so hot I had to let go. There is an AM antenna running up the side of the tower and its about 10KW from what I was told. I am going to assume there is no way to successfully run ethernet up this tower, I know others have tried and warned me it would not work but I had to see for myself... I believe it now :) We do have power (standard outdoor SOOJ type cable 14/3) cable running to a box 150 feet or so up there. Ethernet runs from the box are about 5-15 feet max. Mostly unshielded indoor cat5 (I inherited this and have not switched out yet). Any way the power works fine and the radios and cabling have been there for years and is also fine. My question - I was told the power didn't work until a wise old man put a choke/filter of some sort on the power cable when it entered the box at 150ft. I want to run a new cable and put up a new box, but I'd like to not climb the tower and figure out what wise old man used. I'd rather know and have my new box ready for the beating before raising it up there. I usually use power filters on all our tower boxes (noise filter/supression unit on incoming power like Square D Surgelogic type LC power filter / surge protection 5 amp 120v). Is this going to handle the AM problem or do I need something more specialized? Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AM Tower Question
Thanks for the information... but remember my whole post was about dealing with the power cable not that I should use Fiber - I already knew that part any suggestions on that? Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Rick Harnish" Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:08 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] AM Tower Question I second Justin's advice. If you must use Shielded Ethernet, you will need to ground it to the tower every 20-30 feet. That means pealing back the plastic sheath and wrapping a small cable ground kit around the shielding, water proofing and then attaching the ground strap to the tower. Make sure the tower grounding system is adequate and no ground loops exist between your building and the tower. After all the effort and expense in labor and equipment, it would probably be cheaper to run fiber. It will also prevent flaky issues from arising in the future if the weather proofing fails. The radio station will need to turn down or turn off the equipment while this work is being done. Respectfully, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 2:52 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AM Tower Question My advice is to run fiber if you must use the tower. So the whole tower is not charged? Most AM towers are the antenna themselves. This means as you add equipment you will have to re-proof the tower as you have changed the radiation pattern of the tower. I am hoping your climbers have RF monitors or the owner has really turned down the power for you as you climb. Justin -- Justin Wilson Aol & Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support -------- From: Scott Carullo Reply-To: , WISPA General List Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:55:40 -0500 To: Subject: [WISPA] AM Tower Question I ran a shielded shireen ethernet cable up a tower today about 50-60 feet maybe, the cable itself was maybe twice that length to run into a building. While the cable was being hoisted up I was holding the end and it got so hot I had to let go. There is an AM antenna running up the side of the tower and its about 10KW from what I was told. I am going to assume there is no way to successfully run ethernet up this tower, I know others have tried and warned me it would not work but I had to see for myself... I believe it now :) We do have power (standard outdoor SOOJ type cable 14/3) cable running to a box 150 feet or so up there. Ethernet runs from the box are about 5-15 feet max. Mostly unshielded indoor cat5 (I inherited this and have not switched out yet). Any way the power works fine and the radios and cabling have been there for years and is also fine. My question - I was told the power didn't work until a wise old man put a choke/filter of some sort on the power cable when it entered the box at 150ft. I want to run a new cable and put up a new box, but I'd like to not climb the tower and figure out what wise old man used. I'd rather know and have my new box ready for the beating before raising it up there. I usually use power filters on all our tower boxes (noise filter/supression unit on incoming power like Square D Surgelogic type LC power filter / surge protection 5 amp 120v). Is this going to handle the AM problem or do I need something more specialized? Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install
Get with someone who can tell you exactly how long to make the cables. You don't want them any whole fraction of the FM wavelength freq or it will compound your problem. Make them as de-tuned length as possible. I've had a coax in my hand not hooked to anything in the vacinity of a high-power FM station and it was a resonant length and it got so hot I had to drop it. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "can...@believewireless.net" Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:39 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install We are mounting close to a 50kW FM antenna and want to use heavy, double shielded cable for the runs to the APs since we've seen issues in the past. Fiber up the tower but will need 3-4 ft jumpers to the APs. Any recommendations? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rope
You can get cheaper rope, but if you want the best call bluewater and have them cut you whatever length you want (they make the stuff). Get Bluewater II plus static rope about 200M (656ft) that will handle everything you are doing and last longer than you need it if you take care of it. We keep ours in trash cans like some of the others have mentioned (get the good rubbermaid cans not the cheapies they break) don't store it wet and try to keep it out of the dirt, for the most part it should go out of and into the bucket. Get a truck winch from midwest unlimited (capstain) and you will forever thank yourself. You do not need another rope to pull up this one. Just put a loop in the end have your climbers climb up with it hanging down. We've gone over 400ft up without problems this way. You can control where the rope goes too, throwing a bag and hoping for the best doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Carry it up put it right where you want it. Theres lots of tricks, don't have time to share them now. Just make sure the guy taking the rope has an appropriate weight (at least 5lbs - use lead deep fishing weight) and they need a pully, strap and carabiner. Then you are in business. I don't like dynamic (or normal rope) as it stretches way too much for my tastes. Use a static rope I think you would be happier and get braided - not 3 twist stuff, you'll have a mess after loading it up and taking it down. have fun :) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Steve Barnes" Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 2:30 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] Rope Looking at rope to winch equipment (antennas, Boxes, etc) to top of towers None over 275' nothing more than 100 Lbs. Couple Questions. What Rope do you prefer and size and what length do you recommend? I have a 400Ft Spool of 3/8 Poly double braided but its not long enough. How do you store your rope for transport to keep it untangled.What do you use as a throw line to get the rope to the top. Most of my towers the climber cant pull to the top. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN/RC-WiFi WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPAOLD] Licensed 11ghz Hops
Below is part of a conversation from last November. Josh mentions the SAF Lumina using 50Mhz channels for 325Mb FDX. For FCC in the US 40Mhz channel is the largest that can be used right? Just want to verify my understanding and make sure there isn't a way to do this in the US Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Brad Belton" Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 3:10 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops You coordinate two paths. We have a Trango GigaLINK 6GHz link using two radio pairs and a combiner plate attaching to one antenna on each end. One radio set is V the other is H. Gives us twice the capacity (165MB x 2) plus failover in the event one ODU or IDU fails plus Frequency diversity for higher overall availability. Best, Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 2:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops Not sure where dual polarities come in to play with licensed gear. I know that your PCN strictly states V or H. The SAF CFIP Lumina uses 50Mhz one way and 50Mhz the other way to get full duplex. Each channel with 256qam does 325mbps. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Matt wrote: How long has Exalt been doing licensed gear? Is it pretty good gear? Does SAF allow you to use a dual polarity dish in 11ghz and bond both polarities for additional bandwidth? Can both polarities be done on the same channel? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA
I'll take this two seconds two share my negative experiences with all grandstream products. They just are not reliable nor do they perform well. Not the phones, the atas (from one to 24 ports) etc. The SPA8000 seems to be a decent unit and has a plug to go to a block also which is nice. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Gerard Dupont" Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:46 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA I've used the GXW4008 and GXW4004 in a few locations. They seem to work fine. One sip account can roll over to all 8 FXS ports which is kinda cool. The GXW4008 is ~$200.. Gerard On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > How m uch? > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > g...@aeronetpr.com > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > 787.273.4143 > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:52 PM > > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA > > > > What Patrick said. > > I have one on the shelf if you're interested. It seems to work just as well > as the SPA2x02. Dozens of deployed SPA2x02 have been amazing for me. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Patrick Shoemaker > wrote: > > SPA8000 > > > > -- > Patrick Shoemaker > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Gino Villarini > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:49 > To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org) > Subject: [WISPA] 8 line ATA > > > > Looking for a 8 line reliable ATA, any recommendations? > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > g...@aeronetpr.com > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > 787.273.4143 > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Voip over fixed wireless ubnt
What will make the most difference is the firmware you run on them. Each firmware they have released dramatically affects voip performance. I don't have a good answer for your next question - just use the newest one and see how it goes for you, its as good as any of the past ones... (5.3.3) I'm waiting to try a newer 5.5 beta but I haven't felt like walking the plank yet. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Zach Mann" Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 12:06 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Voip over fixed wireless ubnt How many are sucessfully doing this for businesses and what details need to be looked at when making sure phones work ? A SIP company will no longer partner with me as they have a sour taste from 2 previous wisps that had high latency issues. -Zach WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Seasickness guaranteed (no password)
It appears to be able to monitor water clarity / color against the white colored doohickies hanging below. Not a problem off Hawaii but I wish they had sensors able to determine water clarity off of florida about 20 miles down the coast it could tell you an awful lot about whether to spend the time and money to go fishing or diving coupled along with the temperature and wind data NOAA already provides. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Tom Sharples" Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 7:41 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] Seasickness guaranteed (no password) http://69.96.154.17/cgi-bin/guestimage.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] "Virtual" T-1 PRI
Yes we do this all the time. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "can...@believewireless.net" Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 3:09 PM To: "WISPA General List" , us...@wug.cc Subject: [WISPA] "Virtual" T-1 PRI Has anyone set these up for customers? We were thinking about putting an Asterisk box in with a T-1 PRI interface and connecting it to the customer's equipment. Would this work? Any pitfalls? Any affordable turnkey solutions for this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fiber termination
Cheap, simple, does good job = pick 2 I recommend the Corning Pretium Unicam kit there are a few variations but it will allow you to install LC / SC / ST end no problem on both single and multimode cable. We have one use it all the time. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe" Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 5:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber termination I need cheap and simple fiber termination equipment - single and multimode. I have fiber certification but haven't done it in a while. Tired of unreliable installers. Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Rb1200 - issues with the power cord
Happened with the 1100 version too. The easiest part to get right and they didn't. I don't think the 3 prongs are normal I tried multiple cords and no dice. Wiggle the cord the power shuts off. Our solution? Use the POE port to power the device. Problem solved. Even though I have no desire to own a 1200 I figured they could have at least fixed the issues with the 1100s... Guess not. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Paolo Di Francesco" Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 1:43 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Rb1200 - issues with the power cord Hi All, I have put on the table some RB1200 and I have noticed that sometimes when we move or hit those boxes they turn off. The power cord, looks wead and not so "stable". So I was thinking it's only one defective unit, then I noticed it's the same on the units we received. Do you have a similar behaviour from RB1200? Solutions or workarounds? Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Rb1200 - issues with the power cord
Seriously, it moves so much I'd say more like a tube of jb weld epoxy Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Dennis Burgess" Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:07 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, "WISPA General List" Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik Rb1200 - issues with the power cord Nothing a dab of super glue would not cure! Lol. --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS" From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 8:29 PM To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Rb1200 - issues with the power cord Happened with the 1100 version too. The easiest part to get right and they didn't. I don't think the 3 prongs are normal I tried multiple cords and no dice. Wiggle the cord the power shuts off. Our solution? Use the POE port to power the device. Problem solved. Even though I have no desire to own a 1200 I figured they could have at least fixed the issues with the 1100s... Guess not. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Paolo Di Francesco" Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 1:43 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Rb1200 - issues with the power cord Hi All, I have put on the table some RB1200 and I have noticed that sometimes when we move or hit those boxes they turn off. The power cord, looks wead and not so "stable". So I was thinking it's only one defective unit, then I noticed it's the same on the units we received. Do you have a similar behaviour from RB1200? Solutions or workarounds? Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Licensed Backhaul
we have 3 foot links over 20 miles and they work great, florida rainy here, when rain fade occurs you have adaptive modulation and rapid port shutdown that works well. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 5:27 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed Backhaul What kind of distances can you get from 11ghz with 4' dishes? Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 9/30/2011 2:14 PM, Charles Wu wrote: 1024x768 Clean false false false EN-US X-NONE X-NONE MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 >Its nice to see products comming out like APEX9, enabling $6900/link pricing standard, which are fully feauture rich to latest standards. You're a little high on the price - it's $6500 for a full link (and that's the rack rate for a single link =) That price includes high power (e.g., +28 dBm for 11 GHz) The Apex9 Radios also support compression - in our testing, we got ~390 Mbps full duplex with 64 byte packets -Charles - Original Message - From: Blake Covarrubias To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed Backhaul We have quite a few Trango licensed radios. They work well. Latency is usually under 1ms for each hop. -- Blake Covarrubias On Sep 29, 2011, at 12:16, Josh Luthman wrote: Most if not all of the licensed backhauls are very solid and very good. I have a SAF link that is working well. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: Exalt has a nice product line. How much bandwidth and how far are you trying to go are good places to start. mc On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:00 AM, John M. Nix wrote: We are thinking of changing our core backhaul from 5.8 Ghz to a Licensed solution. Just wondering what the most cost effective solution would be without losing a great deal of quality. John Nix CSWEB Support Team www.csweb.net 918-235-0414 j...@cnetworksolutions.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters
The cheapest thing you can do, in my opinion, is this: Put your equipment in a good metal box, if fans make them RF screened fans, and ground it good. Then make your cables with level 2 tough cable from ubiquiti (or whatever their double shielded cable is called), using their shielded ends and make sure the connectors are put on according to their plan. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. I was. I've only ever bought one box of the tough cable and only used it once for about two runs of cable on a large tower. wasn't thinking the quality would be that great because they are not known for top of the line quality, just bargain priced stuff. A new 100,000 watt fm antenna was activated 5 feet behind our equipment (yes, radiating towards us on a platform away from the tower, we were not behind it) and the only two radios that did not go down were the two we used the tough cable on. That said everything I needed to know. Shireen, Belden etc didn't make the cut. It does turn green after a while which is kinda odd, and I can't say how it will last but it is shielded better no doubt. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Tim Warnock" Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:54 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters Hi All, I have a question as to how other operators are handling POE radio links and high power FM transmitters. We often see things like a radio will run errors or drop to 10mbps instead of 100mbps until we find a good position on the tower that its happy with. Once its happy we never have an issue again. We've tried earthing, not earthing, STP, UTP. Nothing seems to definitively solve the issue. Does anyone have any advice they'd like to share? It would be muchly appreciated. Thanks Tim ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz
Update Last week we (along with other RF users in the community) were invited to the AFB to meet the folks that run the radar there and to see the spectrum analyzer screens. During this meeting, it was discussed that what the AF was trying to accomplish was to remove all users within 60Km from using 5630-5800Mhz. It was discussed that this seemed to be a doomed request because of the sheer number of users in the spectrum within such a large geographical area. How would they remove all users from this spectrum, even within several miles of the radar... lots of hotels, condos, businesses etc... literally thousands of them. I'm not sure if they are going after the low hanging identifiable fruit or if they really plan on going door to door... They said things were sort of in a holding pattern with the FCC because they were contacted by a WISPA rep and others and there were some discussions going on above our pay grade locally. Well, here we are today. I guess the outcome of those meetings was that we need to stop using the spectrum identified. Here is the email sent from the FCC field officer to the local range folks that was forwarded to me: === FROM: FCC Agent TO: CONNOLLEY, SCOTT D GS-13 USAF AFSPC 45 SCS/SCOT Subject: Meeting to discuss Interference to Radar at Patrick AFB Scott, I've reviewed your report concerning radio interference to a C-Band (5 GHz) tracking radar at Patrick AFB. I understand that you have contacted several of the Wireless Internet Service Providers (WISP's) in the area to advise them of the problem and have been met with some resistance to assist you. I would like to have a meeting with you and the WISP's to discuss this problem and open up a discussion as to what steps can be taken to find a solution. WISP's operate under Part 15 of the FCC Rules and may not cause harmful interference. 47 C.F.R. § 15.5 General conditions of operation. (a) Persons operating intentional or unintentional radiators shall not be deemed to have any vested or recognizable right to continued use of any given frequency by virtue of prior registration or certification of equipment, or, for power line carrier systems, on the basis of prior notification of use pursuant to §90.35(g) of this chapter. (b) Operation of an intentional, unintentional, or incidental radiator is subject to the conditions that no harmful interference is caused and that interference must be accepted that may be caused by the operation of an authorized radio station, by another intentional or unintentional radiator, by industrial, scientific and medical (ISM) equipment, or by an incidental radiator. (c) The operator of a radio frequency device shall be required to cease operating the device upon notification by a Commission representative that the device is causing harmful interference. Operation shall not resume until the condition causing the harmful interference has been corrected. (d) Intentional radiators that produce Class B emissions (damped wave) are prohibited. I propose that we have our first meeting on Wednesday, 6/18/14, at Patrick AFB. Thanks, Don Roberson Sr. Agent Tampa Office Enforcement Bureau FCC Office: 813-348-1741 ext 105 === So, its that easy? Local AF guy makes a request whether reasonable or not, and thats the way it is? I understand moving off the 5765Mhz and having guard space on either side maybe 20Mhz, but they want the whole band to stop being used whether its even in the radar LOS or not, which is an unreasonable request, IMO. This meeting of the minds will apparently happen this coming Wednesday here locally. Anyone have anything to add, other than good luck? Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Jack Unger" Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 12:49 PM To: sc...@flhsi.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz Yes. Thanks ! On 6/2/2014 9:24 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: Does this work: Scott Connolley, GS-13, DAF DoD Eastern Area Frequency Coordination Office 45 Space Communications Squadron Patrick Air Force Base Florida COMM: (321) 494-5838 DSN 854 scott.connol...@us.af.mil Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Jack Unger" Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 12:20 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz Guys, I'm working on getting some clarification on this issue. Let's try to ho
Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz
Thats going to be something we bring up at the meeting. Its going to boil down to a they say vs we say - who do you think is going to lose that battle? They are claiming a radio operating on 5795 on 20Mhz channel will interfere with their radar on 5765 with about a 1Mhz channel width. Further-more, the RFI they are getting on 5765 is not from the radar, its from a beacon the radar interrogates on a space launch vehicle so in other words - the radar only listens on this freq. If they say my radio on 5800Mhz is interfering with their 5765Mhz beacon who gets involved with resolving that? I think the guys that work there are nice fellas, but I conducted my own test during our testing. I turned a radio off, they said - oh looks a lot better. Sounded suspect to me. Next radio I said ok its off (didn't change anything - again it was a test) and they said ok lots better... They just want them all off without regards of the true scientific difference. If FCC is going to get involved they need to just issue a notice in this area and specify what they believe needs to happen to resolve this - not just go on whatever the radar operator says IMO I believe we could all co-exist with a notch cut out from 5755 to 5775. At least thats somewhat reasonable for us if not still difficult to enforce for the general public buying 5Ghz APs from wal mart.... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Matt Hoppes" Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 1:49 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz If your radio is causing interference to a licensed radio they have -- they can say shut it down. Otherwise a request of "shut everything down on the band" I don't think holds water On 6/12/14, 1:31 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: > Update Last week we (along with other RF users in the community) > were invited to the AFB to meet the folks that run the radar there and > to see the spectrum analyzer screens. During this meeting, it was > discussed that what the AF was trying to accomplish was to remove all > users within 60Km from using 5630-5800Mhz. It was discussed that this > seemed to be a doomed request because of the sheer number of users in > the spectrum within such a large geographical area. How would they > remove all users from this spectrum, even within several miles of the > radar... lots of hotels, condos, businesses etc... literally thousands > of them. I'm not sure if they are going after the low hanging > identifiable fruit or if they really plan on going door to door... They > said things were sort of in a holding pattern with the FCC because they > were contacted by a WISPA rep and others and there were some discussions > going on above our pay grade locally. > > Well, here we are today. I guess the outcome of those meetings was that > we need to stop using the spectrum identified. Here is the email sent > from the FCC field officer to the local range folks that was forwarded > to me: > > === > FROM: FCC Agent > TO: CONNOLLEY, SCOTT D GS-13 USAF AFSPC 45 SCS/SCOT > > Subject: Meeting to discuss Interference to Radar at Patrick AFB > > Scott, I've reviewed your report concerning radio interference > to a C-Band (5 GHz) tracking > radar at Patrick AFB. I understand that you have contacted > several of the Wireless Internet > Service Providers (WISP's) in the area to advise them of the > problem and have been met with > some resistance to assist you. > I would like to have a meeting with you and the WISP's to > discuss this problem and open up a > discussion as to what steps can be taken to find a solution. > WISP's operate under Part 15 of the FCC Rules and may not > cause harmful interference. > 47 C.F.R. § 15.5 General conditions of operation. > (a) Persons operating intentional or unintentional radiators > shall not be deemed to have any > vested or recognizable right to continued use of any given > frequency by virtue of prior > registration or certification of equipment, or, for power line > carrier systems, on the basis > of prior notification of use pursuant to §90.35(g) of this > chapter. > (b) Operation of an intentional, unintentional, or incidental > radiator is subject to the > conditions that no harmful interference is caused and that > interference must be accepted that > may be caused by the operation of an authorized radio station, > by another intentional or > unintentional radiator, by industrial, scientific and medical > (ISM) equipment, or by an > incidental radiator. > (c) The operator of a radio frequency device shall be required > to
Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz
I've already looked at their SA screens. Remember they have a multi-million dollar receiver attached to a giant 15 meter or so movable dish that can hear down below -120db. I'm not sure how it could have seen one weak radio the way stuff was updating on their flat-screen computer monitors (like white-noise on an old TV screen). As a matter of fact, they couldn't have seen that from the screen they were looking at. They have no idea if the RF they see is from a mile away or 20 miles away, from the side etc... Besides getting into the radar building is a fairly monumental task as far as working with them. Their main RF guy supposedly proposed a sliver about 20 degrees wide heading about 5 degrees north towards the launch pads where the radar looks be the area they wanted RFI removed from. Then they decided at a meeting that just drawing a large 60Km circle around the three radars was "easier and safer" for their request. Thats when this whole issue went from reasonable to unreasonable. That dish can't hear an access point 60Km away on the back-side or side lobe. Therefore that area should not be included just because it was easier to write. I'm not convinced they have the staff capable of preparing an appropriate request Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Kristian Hoffmann" Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:35 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz Regarding the suspect "looks a lot better," my suggestion would be bring a laptop that you can use to access your network remotely and, while you're all there looking at their analyzers, turn off and/or change channels on your radios. It will be harder to make flippant subjective calls like that in a group. If you can show that a minor channel change makes a difference, or better yet that you're not really the interferer, then you may end up with a workable solution. On the flip side, it could backfire and it really is "lots better" with your radios off. Just like the TDWR interference in Vegas, it seems that cooperation in finding the cause, and fixing it, will go a long way and avoid the shotgun approach. -Kristian On 06/12/2014 11:23 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: Thats going to be something we bring up at the meeting. Its going to boil down to a they say vs we say - who do you think is going to lose that battle? They are claiming a radio operating on 5795 on 20Mhz channel will interfere with their radar on 5765 with about a 1Mhz channel width. Further-more, the RFI they are getting on 5765 is not from the radar, its from a beacon the radar interrogates on a space launch vehicle so in other words - the radar only listens on this freq. If they say my radio on 5800Mhz is interfering with their 5765Mhz beacon who gets involved with resolving that? I think the guys that work there are nice fellas, but I conducted my own test during our testing. I turned a radio off, they said - oh looks a lot better. Sounded suspect to me. Next radio I said ok its off (didn't change anything - again it was a test) and they said ok lots better... They just want them all off without regards of the true scientific difference. If FCC is going to get involved they need to just issue a notice in this area and specify what they believe needs to happen to resolve this - not just go on whatever the radar operator says IMO I believe we could all co-exist with a notch cut out from 5755 to 5775. At least thats somewhat reasonable for us if not still difficult to enforce for the general public buying 5Ghz APs from wal mart Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Matt Hoppes" Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 1:49 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz If your radio is causing interference to a licensed radio they have -- they can say shut it down. Otherwise a request of "shut everything down on the band" I don't think holds water On 6/12/14, 1:31 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: > Update Last week we (along with other RF users in the community) > were invited to the AFB to meet the folks that run the radar there and > to see the spectrum analyzer screens. During this meeting, it was > discussed that what the AF was trying to accomplish was to remove all > users within 60Km from using 5630-5800Mhz. It was discussed that this > seemed to be a doomed request because of the sheer number of users in > the spectrum within such a large geographical area. How would they > remove all users from this spectrum, even within several miles of the > radar... lots of hotels,
Re: [WISPA] Watchguard XTM5s NIB available
Yeah I have some too that are used for next to nothing... acquired from company we got assets from. Hit me off-list I can get you more info. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Leon D. Zetekoff" Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 7:47 AM To: memb...@wispa.org, wireless@wispa.org Cc: userrk1...@gmail.com Subject: [WISPA] Watchguard XTM5s NIB available Hi there! Sorry for any cross-posting, but trying to get this out to the widest audience. Any questions, feel free to post me privately at wa4...@arrl.net. We have a lot of 13 new in boxes as follows all with the three year live security bundle. These were purchased and never used and have been sitting on a shelf and we can offer them at a good price. XTM510 - 8 - $3195 each OBO XTM520 - 1 - $6795 each OBO XTM530 - 4 - $8195 each OBO The hardware is all the same, the software keys change the box configuration. These all come with the 3 year live security bundle. I have a lot of 7 and rich has a lot of 6. We would like to get rid of them easily so I am offering these to you and some other folks before I list them on eBay. Pricing wise, we are going to price them you pay for two years and get three years. We have letter of authorization to dispose of these as we see fit. I also, for a separate discussion, have used E Series (X550e, X750e, X1250e) as well as used XTMs (510/520/530) which we will dispose of after this first lot. The E series have 250 mb ram with a 1200mhz celeron I believe in them and you can slap RouterOS on it like the old X series. The XTMs, some have existing live feature keys and some not, but those are still fully supported boxes like the new in box ones. Info is below. Time is of the essence as these have to move and please let me know ASAP as my listings are ready I just have to get approval to list more than $5000. These boxes are end of sale BUT they are totally current and upgradable as well as extendible licensing. The 510s and 520s can be upgraded to a 530 with a new license key and buy upgrading to the PRO license you get dynamic routing, etc: Powered by Fireware® XTM and XTM Pro*** As network requirements become more complex, it's easy to upgrade to the Pro version of the OS with a simple software license key. Networking Features Fireware XTMFireware XTM Pro Routing Static, dynamic routing (RIP) Dynamic (BGP4, OSPF, RIP v1/2), Policy-base High Availability- Active/passive, active/active with load balancin NAT Static, dynamic, 1:1, IPSec traversal, policy-based Virtual IP for server load balancing SSL 1 SSL tunnel available Maximum number of SSL tunnels available Other Features Port Independence, transparent/drop-in mode, multi-WAN failover Server load balancing, multi-WAN load balancing Finish your draft listing WatchGuard XTM 510 with 3 year Security Bundle - WATCHGUARD WG510033 - XTM510* Category: Computers/Tablets & Networking > Enterprise Networking, Servers > Firewall & VPN Devices [ Delete ] *Edited Jul-04. WatchGuard XTM 520 with 3 year Security Bundle - WATCHGUARD WG520033 - XTM520* Category: Computers/Tablets & Networking > Enterprise Networking, Servers > Firewall & VPN Devices [ Delete ] *Edited Jul-04. WatchGuard XTM 530 with 3 year Security Bundle - WATCHGUARD WG530033 - XTM530* Category: Computers/Tablets & Networking > Enterprise Networking, Servers > Firewall & VPN Devices [ Delete ] *Edited Jul-04. Specifications: WatchGuard Model XTM 505 XTM 510 XTM 520 XTM 530 Throughput & Connections Firewall Throughput* 1.5 Gbps1.8 Gbps 2.2 Gbps2.6 Gbps VPN Throughput* 210 Mbps350 Mbps550 Mbps750 Mbps AV Throughput* 520 Mbps625 Mbps760 Mbps900 Mbps IPS Throughput* 500 Mbps600 Mbps735 Mbps870 Mbps XTM Throughput* 330 Mbps395 Mbps480 Mbps570 Mbps Interfaces 10/1001 copper1 copper 1 cop
[WISPA] Off topic sorta power question....
I need to place a 120v normal 1U router in a rack that only has 240v twist lock receptacles available for power. I need to put a UPS there so I just looked for a 240v UPS with the right plugs but because they are made for a lot larger load they were way bigger (and more expensive) than what I was looking for. SO... anyone have a better way to do this? I have considered taking one leg and bonding the neutral and ground, but. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question....
Cloud core. There is a difference between having a hot (80-250v), a neutral and a ground, vs. a neutral and two 120v hots. I believe the router can handle more than 120v but not in the sense that its being delivered on two 120v legs with a neutral and no ground. Its a 3 prong twist lock type receptacle. If there is a way I'd like to be educated (aside from pulling one of the hots and hooking the neutral to ground as well on my new non-code engineered power cable. Educate me. I think I'm just going to plug it into the normal 120v 20amp plug on the wall behind the rack though, seems like the best way forward considering the options I was just trying to accommodate the customers request prior to plan B. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "TJ Trout" Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 3:21 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question Everything can use 240 now days probably just need a new power cord On Nov 5, 2014 12:10 PM, "Bob M" wrote:Keep in mind that it is breakered for 240. Splitting the legs after a 240 vac circuit breaker is not code. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Brett Woollum Date:11/05/2014 12:00 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question Tim, In most cases you can split the hot leads on the 240v outlet into two 120v circuits. There are adapter pigtails for this if you don't want to hardware it. >From memory, our local hardware store sells these (in the US). A quick Google search revealed this: http://www.wayfair.com/Champion-Power-Equipment-Generator-Y-Adapter-for-Cham pion-Power-Equipment-48035-L771-K~CXP1067.html?refid=GX50899353420-CXP1067&d evice=c&ptid=75696510540&gclid=CJ_Fktv348ECFUdffgod3z4ANw Brett Woollum Senior Sales Engineer br...@tekify.com Tekify Broadband Internet Services Web: http://www.tekify.com Phone: 510-266-5800 , ext 6200 From: "Tim Way" To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 7:50:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question I would think something like this might be the safer option: http://www.certifiedmtp.com/step-up-step-down-transformer-500w/?gclid=CNWj1K ro48ECFQipaQodB74ADQ That said I'm not an electrician and I think that question might be best answered by one. Tim Way On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: I need to place a 120v normal 1U router in a rack that only has 240v twist lock receptacles available for power. I need to put a UPS there so I just looked for a 240v UPS with the right plugs but because they are made for a lot larger load they were way bigger (and more expensive) than what I was looking for. SO... anyone have a better way to do this? I have considered taking one leg and bonding the neutral and ground, but. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question....
Ok... sorry to beat this horse but I'm apparently not following you. There are three lugs my shiny new male plug has. 1-120v leg1 from single phase source 2-120v leg2 from single phase source 3- Neutral wire which bonds to ground at building main panel from power company. Cloud Core has three wires feeding the power supply. 1-120v leg (1 or 2) from single phase source 2-Neutral 3-Ground A) I completely understand how I can take a single 120v wire from leg1 or leg2 of the power source and then take the neutral to both neutral and ground of the router power supply and make this work - thats easy - but not code. B) I also understand how I could take a neutral, a ground and one hot wire with voltage anywhere from 110-250v and it will work with cloud core power supply. (but not I do not have this configuration at source) C) I do not understand how you can take two hots and a neutral and turn that into anything (just by using a cable) that the router can use unless that cable is doing nothing more than what I described above in "A" Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Faisal Imtiaz" Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:53 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question Here is the info on AC power arrangement http://www.oempanels.com/what-does-single-and-three-phase-power-mean The CCR specs show it having : Dual power supplies for redundancy, 110-250V input, IEC connectors which means that, you can use either 110 or 220 or 240 on the same power supply. All you would have to do is match the power cables... Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net -------- From: "Scott Carullo" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:55:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question Cloud core. There is a difference between having a hot (80-250v), a neutral and a ground, vs. a neutral and two 120v hots. I believe the router can handle more than 120v but not in the sense that its being delivered on two 120v legs with a neutral and no ground. Its a 3 prong twist lock type receptacle. If there is a way I'd like to be educated (aside from pulling one of the hots and hooking the neutral to ground as well on my new non-code engineered power cable. Educate me. I think I'm just going to plug it into the normal 120v 20amp plug on the wall behind the rack though, seems like the best way forward considering the options I was just trying to accommodate the customers request prior to plan B. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "TJ Trout" Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 3:21 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question Everything can use 240 now days probably just need a new power cord On Nov 5, 2014 12:10 PM, "Bob M" wrote:Keep in mind that it is breakered for 240. Splitting the legs after a 240 vac circuit breaker is not code. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Brett Woollum Date:11/05/2014 12:00 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question Tim, In most cases you can split the hot leads on the 240v outlet into two 120v circuits. There are adapter pigtails for this if you don't want to hardware it. >From memory, our local hardware store sells these (in the US). A quick Google search revealed this: http://www.wayfair.com/Champion-Power-Equipment-Generator-Y-Adapter-for-Cham pion-Power-Equipment-48035-L771-K~CXP1067.html?refid=GX50899353420-CXP1067&d evice=c&ptid=75696510540&gclid=CJ_Fktv348ECFUdffgod3z4ANw Brett Woollum Senior Sales Engineer br...@tekify.com Tekify Broadband Internet Services Web: http://www.tekify.com Phone: 510-266-5800, ext 6200 From: "Tim Way" To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 7:50:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question I would think something like this might be the safer option: http://www.certifiedmtp.com/step-up-step-down-transformer-500w/?gclid=CNWj1K ro48ECFQipaQodB74ADQ That said I'm not an electrician and I think that question might be best answered by one. Tim Way On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: I need to place a 120v normal 1U router in a rack that only has 240v twist lock receptacles available for power.
[WISPA] Solar setup recommendations...
I have a new site that needs to be powered by solar. Needs to run a MT 2011 router and 4 UBNT rocket 5Ghz radios. Would like it to be 24v based since that is what all the equipment requires. Also a battery recommendation would be super, controller etc. Its all being mounted outside on a pipe which is chain mounted to a monopole tower at 60ft. Just need the shopping list to make this happen. I appreciate your input and your time, thanks. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Bartow Fl
We may be able to help you out, hit me off-list with info if you are still looking. Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 From: "Jeff Evans" Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 7:29 PM To: "WISPA General List" , memb...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Bartow Fl Anyone service Bartow Fl? -- Jeff Evans, Managing Member PennWisp, LLC www.pennwisp.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Sample traffic study for FCC 499A anyone?
Looking for a sample, we need to submit traffic study wondering how others have presented it. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
