Actually, we need a little more information to answer this...
Is this for a hot spot?
Is this for fixed service?
Is this for a mobile (clients in a park, for instance) service?
Star-OS recently added an upper and lower limiter to radio sensitivity. In
point to point links, you can bracket the
Guess who doesn't really believe in Free Speech.
I get ripped here endlessly because I talk about how WE should stand up for
responsibility, our own economic and business liberty and here's a good
example.
Shall WISPA, et al, write position papers on how to block usenet groups, or
should we pu
You can find them retail for less than 600 at www.wholesalesolar.com
Very good people there, too.
I have no connection to this company, other than being a customer.
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From: "Joe Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
I have been using one since June of 2004.
I had the controller board fail about a year and a half ago, and ended up
replacing it 3 times. The first replacement didn't work. The second one
worked briefly, the third one was improperly assembled and caused the
brushes to stop working and damag
This is really confusing, George. WISPA's self described job is to lobby
the FCC and regulators.
When it's suggested WISPA should provide statements in opposition to bad
things they want to do, you say "it's politics".
If it's politics to say that this industry should defend itself from exces
In my area, a local WISP applied for every loan and grant that exists for a
hundred miles or more in all directions.They didn't use any of the loan
proceeds, but it prevented anyone else from getting it - which was what they
were after.
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Tony, the average Wisp is NOT a cellular company and cannot invest 50K per
AP and 800 per CPE.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Un
The problem, here Tony, is that the MAC's and PHY that accomlishes this kind
of performance isn't built into chipsets that are mass produced like
consumer chipsets are. Even I'm going to end up with Atheros based 3.6 ghz
products, because nothing else currently makes any sense at all, dollar
That's nice, but in real life the FCC has simply gotten on a tear and
decided that NOTHING qualifies for what they want.
I have no idea what the purpose of this rather odd bit of nonsense is about,
but when it declares that 802.11 "does not detect dissimilar systems", then
nothing can EVER be m
The energy level for backoff CAN be adjusted.
The FCC says that NEITHER is acceptable, and even though the atheros
mechanism is just an "energy detection", it will not be allowed. This is
what I gathered from an assortment of emails on the topic, some of which
were from the FCC to someone wa
I am reminded of a short story I read many years ago. A salesman for farm
equipment was out calling on customers in middle America and following his
directions found himself turning off the maintained county road into a side
road and was immediately confronted with a wide, very deeply rutted,
I know that a certain number of us ARE going to build a network for the sole
purpose of suckering...errr, selling it to someone else.
Now, I have severe ethical disagreements with this notion. It reminds me
of "flipping houses" or "speculative oil investing", perhaps?
Now, to build a business
It does mine.
Inflating the price of a needed commodity - that is, increasing it with no
added value - is unethical, in my estimation.
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From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Thursday, July
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From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP
>I do not think we should build our networks for the "sole purpos
How so?
How does buying ownership in a publicly owned entity inflate the c ost of a
needed commodity?
obviously, there must be a marketplace to buy and sell commodities... And
those who sell, to those who buy, for purposes of buying and selling
commodities for use seems perfectly legitemate t
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From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP
> If you buy a security, the prices rises, you sell the secur
If you have the money to buy - pay for in full - oil and wait until winter,
then what business is it of ours? Again, we're discussing OWNERSHIP here,
which is where I drew my line. As for this action, a lot of farmers and
homeowners fill their heating oil tanks at opportune times. I fail to
My experience selling broadband to rural dialup customers mirrors this.
I've found that in areas where I am the SOLE option, I get about 30 to 50%
take rates. I get about 75% of the 'net user. However, about 25% or so, of
those who use internet will remain on dialup and will not pay $10 more p
You have a nearby consultant in www.wholesalesolar.com
I have bought equipment from them and consulted with them and found Mark to
be better than excellent.
I have no business relationship to them other than being an occaisional
customer.
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From: "Frank Muto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: FCC to Punish Comcast Over Web Blocking
> Does the FCC have jurisdiction over all the bit-content pas
This is what I don't get.
I reminded the OP that several ranking members of WISPA have declared
"objecting to mandates" as "politics".
And, unless I have missed something, WISPA has NEVER officially objected to
a single thing the FCC has wanted or gotten or demanded, and if someone
suggests th
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From: "Frank Muto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: Report: FCC to
PunishComcast Over Web Blocking
>
> I will got out here a
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From: "Frank Muto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: Report:
FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking
> You don't get it. CAL
Forrest, the notion that some networks can't be sniffed was certainly given
some time back when and somewhat addressed - although more along the lines
of "why on earth would you NOT have a single point of failure network?", as
if that's a good thing. I'd like to note that according to recent
I still don't get it. I really don't.
CALEA was designed for a telco network. It is simply NOT APPLICABLE in
design or function to a multi-homed IP network.
I keep hearing how so much time and effort was put into this... But I can
explain in plain, clear, and unmistakeable language to any re
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From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association
Was:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008, Ch
I have a better idea. Explain how you do that.
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From: "Forrest W Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade
AssociationWas:Report:FCCtoP
Forrest, let me get back to the very old conversation about why WISPA should
organized at least 1500 filings to the FCC by every WISP they could get to
act, to say "This cannot be done".
Before they even bothered to read half of them, the FCC would have been in
the process of asking INDUSTRY ho
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From: "Forrest W Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade
AssociationWas:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking
> Are you delibera
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From: "Forrest W Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade
AssociationWas:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking
> Are you delibera
Like it should be, snapped in.
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From: "Jeff Broadwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topicchange- Trade
AssociationWas:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast OverWeb Bloc
This is where I am sadly going to post to you sometime in the near future...
I told you so.
And that will be the saddest day for all of us.
I have no "unfounded fears". I just read and understand precisely what
these things mean. It won't be the first one, it won't be the second one.
It ma
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> Domain Registration Date: Fri Sep 03 17:53:00 G
I'm going to ask that we oppose this in its entirety, due to it giving away
information we really don't need given away.
Whatever your take... please file. ... something.
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From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTEC
This is an excerpt from a comment filed by a state representative from
Kansas:
"As a state policy-maker attempting to develop incentives that will induce
broadband
providers (particularly the larger DSL and cable companies) to use multiple
technologies
to reach beyond city limits, FCC data prov
Why on earth would you want to be a "public utility"?
There are no small businesses in the public utility sector.
There are no small business entries into the public utility sector.
There is no innovation in the public utility sector.
Public utilities are the least competitive and efficient bus
Now I see the motivation. Money. Fast, easy, unearned, grant money from
the taxpayers.
I am disgusted to my core.
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From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:54 PM
Subject:
Sure I'm trolling, Ryan.
Just name for me the last ten successful small electric utility startups.
See if you can find for me the last ten ILEC's to start up as a "small
business".
And name for me the last 10 cities you know of with competitive water or
sewage companies.
And then remind me ag
Wondering why someone would start 28 businesses.
But, whatever the case, I think I grasp the relevant facts here...
There's a few people here who have Rockefeller envy... they want to be
'titans of industry" and to them, that means playing in the sandbox with
public money, high roller financing
My experience is that you'll get around 500 feet of solid foliage.
If you're trying to go 5 miles, you have to get the antennas WAY up in the
air, or you get serious Fresnel zone losses. This means that 900 mhz is
actually somewhat limited to smaller cells than you'd think otherwise.
Yes, I'v
A year or two ago I had this idea that's related to our discussions...
In short, it was to create a open source platform for WISP use. I called
it WISP-OS. All the functions of routing, firewalling, dhcp client and
server, and all the other networking functions are out there and
consistentl
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From: "Charles Wyble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The nanostation thing
>
> Right. Madwifi ( http://madwifi.org/ ) is pretty good but having
> trouble
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From: "Mike Cowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 4:06 PM
Subject: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field
>
> Customer 1- 8.4 mile NLOS location. blocked by heavy trees . 1.5MB
> download holdi
Marlon, my friend, that is the wrong viewpoint.
This is the RIGHT one...
"Imagine the sales I could make if the taxpayers weren't subsidizing
CenturyTel."
The secret is not to become dependent upon subsidy... The best is to take
it from those who have built an entire industry of exploiting it
Jack, how are we supposed to know?
The only way to find anything approaching an average is to get those 500
responses and average them.
And t hen you still gotta define what a WISP is. Is it the guy who covers
an area the size of two city blocks and has backhauled in DSL from 3 miles
away?
:: laugh ::
Jack, it happens even in the best of regulated families :)
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From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:28 AM
Subject: [WISPA] OFFLIST: Input Needed - Average numb
I use them occaisionally and find they work "ok". I once ran a box on them
that ran them close to full power, and it fried them within 2 weeks. I went
through two of them rapid fire before I found a different solution. Other
than that, they've been good for me.
+
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From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?
> Something like 85% of the American population belie
I buy the little black rectangular injectors... Generally use Titan
Wireless for them, and have been buying table top or laptop style power
supplies - the kind with two cords :) I have started using them only for
the odd setups where I need more power. I have had only ONE failure, and
that
None of my normal suppliers have them.
Where do you get yours and what do you normally have to pay?
Thanks
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There's a lot of buzz about the Wavesat engineered minipci's and their
supposedly sub-$100 price tag.
Anyone know more about this?
WISPA Wants You! Join today!
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Bow to the east each morning and recite...
"Oh great Father in Washington, thou knowest all, divinest all, we are
unworthy to have thy great protection and wisdom..."
Or, we could start telling the FCC they're full of it...
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From
Can anyone explain why the rule would encourage spectrum hogging?Use
wider channel = get more eirp???
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From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: [WIS
usage based means tiers of prices... No matter what you tell people or how
you warn them, if your bill this month is $100 and last month it was $25,
they WILL BE ANGRY.
Further, automating systems to bill per gig is kind of a pain.
The answer, then, I guess is... convenience.
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We can hack the MAC on atheros based chipsets.
Well, could, if we could get some funding together and some sharp minds...
MIMO interests me too. Again, the same "hackable" chipsets...
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA Gene
Then could someone explain how this works out in real life?
The problem I have here, is that it appears that if we deploy some 3 or 5
mhz channels, we're going to be severely hampered EIRP-wise, from reaching
any distance at all.
Now, the UBNT XR3's are certified for a 5, 10, and 20 mzh channel
I ran into something vaguely similar in frustration level in two nearby
towns.
Both of them start with declaring that the city has sufficient competitive
communications infrastructure and that the purpose of the regulations are to
prevent further "unsightly development".
It defines anything wi
I stopped tracking individual use...
But my average has remained the same since after my first year... 7 gigs
per customer. Summer use is a little more, winter is less.I do keep
track of the number of gigs.
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From: "David
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From: "John McDowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire
>
> 2. WISPs can use 2.5ghz spectrum and should.
>
How?
-
You say that as if Sprint and Clearwire have not already bought up
everything.
As far as I can tell, at least in the three states around me, they have.
EVERYTHING. They have it all.
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From: "John McDowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To
"Whitespace"?
The last time I investigated, the area I am in is divided up into little
boxes and all of the former holders had leased to Sprint or Clearwire. The
box I am in had all of the holders either actively using, or leasing.
I could find no information on there being any unallocated spe
Comments inline
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From: "Doug Ratcliffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
> But when 802.11 became "easy" it invited all the people to use it w
I was in the process of registering a location in preparation to run a
licensed 3.65 ghz link. In fact, I wanted to run 3 of them from the same
site. That can be done by using 5 mhz channels, and at this time, that
would be sufficient bandwidth...
But no. At 5 mhz bandwidth, I can't have eno
I'm in there. Even have my paper license in the file...
Put in a site registration a few days ago...
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From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:55 PM
Subject: [WISPA]
I see no reason why they would not. The question is not if you can move
the building or structure or whatever it is mounted to, but whether or not
you properly update your location registration(s).One thing I find odd,
is that the process ignores the "client" and focuses on the base statio
There are farmers around here without a landline. They are 100% cellular
now. They even have spare lines for the temp guys that show up for
harvest/picking, etc.
I am presently only cellular and I chose that knowing that i do not have
100% coverage, but that was better than the customer get
The power output from those femtocells is so small, it more closely
resembles bluetooth.
It covers an area under 100 feet by 100 feet in open air, I read.
I dont' think that's going to cause high levels of interference.Besides,
they're all supposed to be indoors, as well.
And at a 1K a pop
I'll have to look around and see if I can find it.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
> Um. Where do you get the 1k figure from?
>
>
>
The most dreaded words in the world "Hi, I'm from the government and I'm
here to help you!".
We can survive competition and bad spectrum and mediocre equipment and high
prices, but we cannot survive the helping hand of govenrment.
I would suggest asking them to cite the statutes that requires t
Actually, getthing the license is real easy. Finding your way through the
FCC's web mess, that's a different story.
however, when you go to register your location, that's when it gets harder.
They use terminology and expect stuff we've never even heard of.
You flunket or passet...Your choice.
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From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Motorola Canopy User Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List"
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 12:59 PM
Subject: [WISPA] testing
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