[WISPA] Louisville Kentucky installer
Hi, Does anyone know (or is anyone) a good installer in/near the Louisville, Kentucky area? I have a project we could work together on. Email me off list. Thanks. Mario WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SR5 vs. XR5
what is the output of those cards? the xr5 are 600mW aren't they? aren't the sr5 400mW? *600mW (28dBm) 400mW (26dBm)* the posted results seem accurate. Mario Mike Hammett wrote: The XR radios listen better than the SR radios do. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Scott Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:55 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] SR5 vs. XR5 What I have seen is not so much an improvement in the receive db reading as in the CCQ. I don't remember how much it changed, but I have a couple of links that were having issues with intermittent drops that went away with the XR5 cards. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, It's a 2 hour drive (each way) and requires taking the link down (again). I have XR5 cards sitting on my desk... but if I'm only going to see 1db of improvement, it's not worth 5 hours of time. ;) Travis Microserv D. Ryan Spott wrote: You could just toss the cards in there and do a quick configure. $216 for the parts should be easy to show on the books. :) ryan Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Can anyone provide any real-world experience where they replaced SR5 cards with XR5 cards on a point to point link? We have a 15 mile shot (using MT) that is just _barely_ line of site enough to establish a link. I am just wondering how much increase in signal we would see by switching cards? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.6/1765 - Release Date: 11/3/2008 4:59 PM -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OT: Task management
Customer is looking for a good Task Management Solution. I've found these two online solutions: -- http://www.same-page.com -- https://www.teamworklive.com I wouldn't mind installing a Linux server solution for this in my datacenter, but I don't know of one. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks. Mario WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] PacWireless vs Hyperlink
If anyone has used these antennas (5Ghz dual polarity), how do they compare in performance and hardware durability? HyperLink's Hypergain -- HG5158DP-29D PacWireless's -- HDDA5W-29-DP Thanks. Mario WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Service in Centerville MD 21617
Hi, I have a friend who lives in Centerville, MD zip 21617 Anyone have coverage there? Thanks. Mario WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISPs in US
It's an interesting objective, actually. Here's the scenario. I'm looking for the number of ISPs in the US (small to medium ISPs, not Verizon and Time Warner and the like) who have 50 or more business customers. Maybe this kind of definition helps. Wisps, cable, dsl are all good. Any ISP who offers services to businesses. Mario David E. Smith wrote: Tom DeReggi wrote: There had been numerous counts in excess of 7000, and some counts as high as 10,000. That was before we were counting WISPs. I have no idea where this is recorded factually. Heck, before you can even count ISPs you have to define ISP. Depending on how picky you want to get, folks using services like Speakeasy's Netshare (basically, you get service from Speakeasy, resell it, they do the billing, you do the tech support) might be considered as people operating an ISP. WISPs? Cable? DSL? Dial-up? It just gets more confusing from there. Anybody have a ballpark number for the amount if ISP's in the United States? Or a site I can go find this out? Thanks. What are you hoping to do with the information? If we can narrow the question down a bit, maybe we can find a better way to answer it. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ISPs in US
Anybody have a ballpark number for the amount if ISP's in the United States? Or a site I can go find this out? Thanks. Mario WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water Tower
The Water Dept. Superintendent we work with allowed us to the same thing Marlon mentions: we give them service for X amount of sites and they allow us to place X amount of antennas. They get the same level of service all our business customers get. Mario Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We are on two. We give them service at all city locations that they want it for. They buy the equipment (we're at a point where we could provide the hardware) needed. They also require a bit more insurance and they are listed as also insured. One of them started out at $1500 per month and 5 million for insurance. I told them that I'd love to do a better job of servicing the local area but I couldn't do it at that rate. We went over the expected customer base for me and cost factors. I reminded them of how important it is to have competition to the telco's DSL etc. I flat out told them that I was willing to do the work and invest the money to service the area, especially those outside of town. But that I'd need their help. We'd have to work as a team to provide the service to the community. If they charged me any rent I'd have to charge higher prices. And really, even at a few hundred per month, it wouldn't be enough money to even matter in their budget. And any more than $100 per month would totally destroy my business model and I'd not be able to afford to keep the system running. In the end I got my trade for service agreement from both of them. I also take good care of them when there is any trouble at all. I still think that the teamwork aspect of my presentation is what got them on board. Hope that helps, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:05 PM Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower Those of you that are on water towers, what sort of agreements do you guys have with cities for their water towers and how much are you paying? I'm in negotiations with one now. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo weirdness
Interesting lesson, Marlon: Sometimes even the wireless enthusiasts blame the wireless gear/technology for issues. Sometimes it's the wired/ethernet parts of installation that cause trouble. Sometimes it's the network (like a misconfigured VLAN or bandwidth manager setting). Sometimes it's lack of updated records: as in using an IP address that's already being used but wasn't added to the IP address database records. Good to hear you got to the bottom of it. Mario Marlon Schafer wrote: Finally got my strange Tranzeo issue figured out. It was a bad jumper from the injector to the switch. Who'd have thunk it!?!?!?!?!?! Running well for a few days now. marlon - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: [WISPA] tranzeo weirdness All- I have the following setup that is giving me fits, (still): 350' FM tower, 25K watt FM bays up near the top, another set, 3k, down around 220'. We have two MT backhauls w/ parabolics located in between the FM antennas that are running fine. Down around 180' we have a tranzeo 5AN w/ a 120 sector that's got us all fouled up. The first radio lived fine for a couple of months then started flopping up and down and finally died. Replaced that unit with one that stayed up for @ 15 minutes, then locked us out, couldnt ping it either. It was powered up, but lan light was out. Swapped in another new unit that behaved the same. Swapped poe, AC adapters, recrimped and tested cabling good. Tried to get into unit, still no go. We considered the cable length as a possible problem, so we spooled off the exact cable length needed (230') stretched it across the ground and sent continuous pings to a new radio for @ 20 minutes with no dropped packets. We then raised this new cable up and plugged it into the existing radio on the tower. It would power up fine, but couldnt find it with the discovery utility and couldnt ping it. We regrounded, recrimped, retested everything and the stupid thing still wouldnt come to life. So we dropped the 230' of cabling and radio back down to the ground, powered it back up and could get right into it. It would drop packets every now and then however. We plugged a new radio into the cable and it ran flawlessly. I thought of pointing at the lower FM array, but we had the same symptoms when the 3K watt station was powered off. The cabling is all sheilded. The MT units are running fine on the same type of cabling on the same leg. Ive considered running the cabling in conduit and isolating the radio and radio ground from the tower, but would like to consider anything else before going that route. Maybe we are the victims of three bad radios in a row? I dont want to have to shoot these radios, but they're starting to make us pretty cranky. Any and all suggestions welcome. Thanks, Chris This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] access in London, UK
Hi, Does anyone in this list provide service in London? I have a customer looking for 10-20M dedicated service in 2 or 3 sites. Please contact me off list. Thanks. Mario WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] fiber vendor
Has anyone heard anything about the quality of Optical Cable Corporation fiber? Does it perform well? Mario WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] access to discontinued RadioShack mount
Hi, I'm looking for what used to be RadioShack's Universal Mast Anchor Mount, part number 15-888. Does anyone know who has these or have access to any? Thanks. Mario ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] access in Thermal, CA
Hi, Would anyone be able to help me provide access to a location next door to the Thermal CA airport (intersection of Airport Blvd. and Rt. 111)? It's a good account. Please email me off-list. Thanks. Mario Mario Pommier Vice Pres., Business Development Webjogger Internet Services _ http://www.webjogger.net_ 845.757.4000 x 133 (o) 845.943.0554 (m) ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Is this about Calea?
NYTIMES.com September 7, 2007 Judge Voids F.B.I. Tool Granted by Patriot Act By ADAM LIPTAK http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/l/adam_liptak/index.html?inline=nyt-per A federal judge yesterday struck down the parts of the recently revised USA Patriot Act that authorized the Federal Bureau of Investigation http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/f/federal_bureau_of_investigation/index.html?inline=nyt-org to use informal secret demands called national security letters to compel companies to provide customer records. The law allowed the F.B.I. not only to force communications companies, including telephone and Internet providers, to turn over the records without court authorization, but also to forbid the companies to tell the customers or anyone else what they had done. Under the law, enacted last year, the ability of the courts to review challenges to the ban on disclosures was quite limited. The judge, Victor Marrero of the Federal District Court in Manhattan, ruled that the measure violated the First Amendment and the separation of powers guarantee. Judge Marrero said he feared that the law could be the first step in a series of intrusions into the judiciary's role that would be the legislative equivalent of breaking and entering, with an ominous free pass to the hijacking of constitutional values. According to a report from the Justice Department's inspector general in March, the F.B.I. issued about 143,000 requests through national security letters from 2003 to 2005. The report found that the bureau had often used the letters improperly and sometimes illegally. Yesterday's decision was a sequel to rulings by Judge Marrero in 2004 and a federal judge in Connecticut in 2005, both of which enjoined an earlier version of the law. Congress responded last year by amending the law in reauthorizing it. The earlier version of the measure barred all recipients of the letters from disclosing them. The amended law changed the ban slightly, now requiring the F.B.I. to certify in each case that disclosure might harm national security, criminal investigations, diplomacy or people's safety. The law authorized courts to review those assertions, but under extremely deferential standards. In some cases, judges were required to treat F.B.I. statements as conclusive unless the court finds that the certification was made in bad faith. In yesterday's decision, Judge Marrero said that the revisions to the law did not go far enough in addressing the flaws identified in the earlier decisions and that in fact they created additional constitutional problems. Recipients of the letters, he wrote, remain effectively barred from engaging in any discussion regarding their experiences and opinions related to the government's use of the letters. Indeed, the very identity of the Internet service provider that brought this case remains secret. The judge said the F.B.I. might be entitled to prohibit disclosures for a limited time but afterward must bear the burden of going to court to suppress the speech. Putting that burden on recipients of the letters, he said, violates the First Amendment. The decision found that the secrecy requirement was so intertwined with the rest of the provision concerning national security letters that the entire provision was unconstitutional. Judge Marrero used his strongest language and evocative historical analogies in criticizing the aspect of the new law that imposed restrictions on the courts' ability to review the F.B.I.'s determinations. When the judiciary lowers its guard on the Constitution, it opens the door to far-reaching invasions of privacy, Judge Marrero wrote, pointing to discredited Supreme Court http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/s/supreme_court/index.html?inline=nyt-org decisions endorsing the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II and racially segregated railroad cars in the 19th century. The only thing left of the judiciary's function for those Americans in that experience, he wrote, was a symbolic act: to sing a requiem and lower the flag on the Bill of Rights. Lawyers for the American Civil Liberties Union http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/a/american_civil_liberties_union/index.html?inline=nyt-org, which represented the Internet company, said Judge Marrero had confirmed a bedrock principle. A statute that allows the F.B.I. to silence people without meaningful judicial oversight is unconstitutional, said Jameel Jaffer, an A.C.L.U. lawyer. Judge Marrero delayed enforcing his decision pending an appeal by the government. Rebekah Carmichael, a spokeswoman for the United States attorney's office in Manhattan, said the government had not decided whether to file one. ** Join us at the WISPA
[WISPA] alternative for Alvarion VL lightning protector
Hi, Has anyone found a low cost alternative for lightning protectors for the Alvarion VL equipment? Transtector and Polyphaser protectors are in the $100+ range. Has anyone tried this one? http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/al-cat5w.php Thank in advance. Mario -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition
wishful thinking FCC realizes areas are underserved. They also realize independent broadband providers -- read wireless ISPs -- are an excellent, if not better, solution as a competitive solution in many areas, rural and otherwise. FCC makes sub-700Mhz available for unlicensed broadband, or reasonably licensed broadband which independent WISPs can access. Then, small business innovators -- read WISPs -- win and users win. /wishful thinking Is that sooo wishful? Mario Matt wrote: For years, plenty of folks (including the Government Accountability Office) have been pointing out that the way the FCC http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070205/165735.shtml measures broadband competition is very flawed. It simply assumes that if a single household in a zip code is offered broadband by provider A, then every household in that zip code can get broadband from provider A. See the problem? For some reason soapbox This gets old. They say the US is way behind. Really? I think they are comparing apples to oranges. Do all they rural farms in Australia have broadband? All the rural areas in China? Even S. Korea, one of the most wired countries, do they have broadband in all there rural areas? Sure its great in there metro areas but so is it here in the US. The only reason this upsets me is we are investing a great deal of our own money building out to these underserved areas. I can just see some report coming out then the government giving some grants to telcos or whoever to bury fiber or whatever at huge expense to every rural house in the country side. What I find really irritating is I/we pay taxes too and will be getting the shaft. Its difficult to compete with fiber with a 900 Canopy SM. /soapbox Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path
Has anyone tried the OFDM Tranzeo 900Mhz? What have your results been? Mario Jim Stout wrote: Would it be worth trying a Yagi antenna with a narrow beamwidth? Jim Stout LTO Communications, LLC 15701 Henry Andrews Dr Pleasant Hill, MO 64080 (816) 305-1076 - Mobile (816) 497-0033 - Pager - Original Message - From: Zack Kneisley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path So just use OFDM EVERYWHERE!! :-) On 4/13/07, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahhh. I tried one or two of the sl units. Just ordered some more. I like them so far. Think of multipath like a bad echo. If you've even stood in a completely empty BIG room, like a grain elevator, warehouse etc. you know that it can be hard to carry on a conversation with someone. The sound waves just keep bouncing around and around and around. OFDM likes the echos, most anything else doesn't. thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: Jim Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path Thanks to all for the feedback! I moved the radio to the top of the customer's barn and am now looking over the power lines. When I first fired it up, it wouldn't associated, so I started trying some of the other suggestions. I lowered the maximum transmit power substantially and it actually started to work. Once it associated, I was able to see the dB level at the AP so I continued dropping the CPE power until my receive power at the AP was -70 dBm. I also reduced the MTU to 500 and the max speed to 5 Mbps. The customer hasn't used it much but my SNMP queries have all been succesful since 9:00 last night. Marlon, The SL2 is one of the newest radios from Tranzeo. It's part of the CPQ family, but it's a Slim Line (much smaller in size.) Up until this install, they have gone in easy, and run great! Can you explain the multipath phenomenon? Thanks, Jim Jim Stout LTO Communications, LLC 15701 Henry Andrews Dr Pleasant Hill, MO 64080 (816) 305-1076 - Mobile (816) 497-0033 - Pager - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path Yeah, that sounds like multipath. I've seen that a few times. Your signal level is actually much too high. Try two things to test my theory. Turn the antenna backward. That should cut 15 to 20dB of signal off and get you down into the high 60 to mid 70 rssi range. Much more reasonable. Try cross polarizing this cpe. If the tower is vertical, put the cpe hpol. Also, what's the radio? (sl2 isn't one I've heard of, cpq or cpe I know of) How about the AP? I've got some very strange things happening with SB ap's and Inscape Data or the new Tranzeo CPQ radios. They will just stop talking to each other. In fact the cpe won't even see the ap until the *ap* is rebooted! It's the dangdest thing. It's almost like the cpe is being put on a mac filter list and the ap completely ignores the cpe. No cpe mac filter being used though. I've had this happen on different networks with different towns, different upstreams, different antennas, different cpe etc. The old CPE200 units didn't do this. Just the new cpq and inscape data cpe radios. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Jim Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:42 AM Subject: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path I hate to ask this question, but I'm at my wit's end with this one. I recently installed a new customer (2.4 GHz) with a clear LOS to my tower. The distance is less than a mile and I get -56 dBm of signal strength. I've run a spectrum analyzer and it's dead silent when the radio's off.. All sounds great! A real simple install, but the radio intermittently locks up, fails to associate and most recently, simply fails to work for more then 10 - 30 seconds at a time following a POR. I've replaced radio (Tranzeo SL2) and gone to the latest version of firmware. I even contacted Tranzeo Tech Support and follwed their recommendations for timing settings. The only difference between this client and all the others on my tower is that there is a power line in the LOS path. Has anyone else found this to be a problem? It's almost like an invisible concrete wall is between the AP and the site. Thanks, Jim Jim Stout LTO Communications, LLC 15701 Henry Andrews Dr Pleasant Hill, MO 64080 (816) 305-1076 - Mobile (816) 497-0033 - Pager -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
[WISPA] Triad VoIP
I wanted to share with my excellent experience with Don Annas from Triad Telecom. I contacted him about VoIP deployment since I need to provide a solution to an MTU. I had the small blurb he submitted about his business. I've never gotten into VoIP and needed (still need) some pretty extensive hand-holding -- like the kind we local ISPs give to our customers. Don gave me the support I needed and answered all my questions so I just wanted to publicly thank him for his time, expertise and guidance. He was talking in his VoIP line -- which didn't skip a beat! I was impressed. So I now foresee buying inbound/outbound minutes from Triad, being able to provide VoIP services to my MTU and not having to reinvent the wheel. Don, I don't know if you really want all this advertising. I may just contribute to you getting swamped with calls from WISPA members about buying VoIP lines from you, but here it is. I've done it. Thanks a lot for your help! Mario P.S. For those sitting on the fence about paying your WISPA dues, my experience should be an encouragement for you to pay: it may bring you additional business and/or additional benefits and/or both. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: UPDATE: [WISPA] WISP blocked access to Washington Post website - Dumb or Responsible?
Sounds like someone made a booboo, they needed someone to complain and let them know something was wrong, or a combination thereof. Good support though, Jack! Can we say that? Try to get a resolution like that with a cable or dsl provider. Mario Jack Unger wrote: Just an update - Within two hours after receiving the email from support, my access to the Washington Post website was restored. Jack Unger wrote: I spend time each day keeping up not just on technical news but on world news. Last Saturday or Sunday, I noticed that I could no longer access the website of the Washington Post. Whatever your political view of the Washington Post, it is still considered as one of the top two national newspapers. Finally last night, I emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I reported that I could not reach the WP website. Here's the reply I received: Mr. Unger, We have temporarily blocked the IP for washingtonpost.com due to a problem traced back to that IP. We are working to resolve this issue and will be unblocking the IP within the next 48 hours. -- Here's my reply to the WISP (which incidentally is California's largest WISP for business and is now owned by a large national ISP. Dear Mr. Xxxx, Thank you for letting me know. I first noticed this problem several days ago. I look forward to having my access to the Washington Post website restored. Thank you, jack I'd appreciate a few knowledge WISP opinions on this issue. 1. Why will it apparently take a total of 5 days to resolve this issue? 2. Was my WISP really not aware of the problem and are they just now starting to look into it? 3. Was/is someone really spamming from the WP IP? Is there a very real and legitimate reason why the WP website would need to be blocked this long? 4. Could this be just another story in the emerging saga of the Net Neutrality debate? Should I be worried about hearing It's our network and we can block anyone we want to block? Again, I'd appreciate a few thoughtful, knowledgable WISP opinions. Thank you in advance, jack -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New WISPA Principal Member - Webjogger Internet Services
sometimes good things take a while to happen, but they do. it's a solacing idea. it's good to be here, Marlon. Mario Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Finally! grin Good to have you on the team Mario marlon - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 1:18 AM Subject: [WISPA] New WISPA Principal Member - Webjogger Internet Services Many thanks to Mario Pommier of Webjogger Internet Services for making the step up to membership in WISPA. We appreciate you and all others like you who have recognized that through your dues and your time that you can help be an active part in building a better future for our industry. Thank you Mario. Here is a little bit of information about Mario and Webjogger: Founded in 1997, Webjogger has been providing Internet service to customers in the Hudson Valley for 10 years. Webjogger services range from traditional Internet services (dialup and webhosting) to robust broadband connectivity solutions (highspeed wireless Internet and fully secure VPN connectivity using wireless point-to-point and point-to-multipoint technologies); from datacenter services (managed server colocation and online offsite backups) to advanced network consulting (routing and switching design and implementation). Webjogger is owned and operated by experienced, knowledgeable, customer-focused individuals who know that researching and developing new technologies and deploying well-engineered solutions goes hand in hand with listening to our customers in order to fulfill their real needs. Thanks. Mario -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Moisture Ingress
Where do you get it? Mario Blair Davis wrote: Same here. Coax Seal is GREAT!!! Travis Johnson wrote: We started using Coax-Seal about two years ago and have never had a problem since. It's moldable so you wrap the connector and then form it around the connections. Quick, easy and cheap. Even on mountaintops at 9000ft elevation with 60mph winds and freezing rain/ice we have never had a problem. Travis Microserv John Scrivner wrote: I would like a bit of feedback from those of you who have been installing outdoor antennas for a while. I have a problem that I would like to see fixed. It seems that after every long rain we see problems with the occasional connection outside at the antenna getting water into it. We use the Scotch seal mastic tape to seal the connections. The guys do not like having to climb and they work hard to try to make sure we do not get these problems and yet they come back. I would like to hear what you veterans out there are doing to make sure the water stays out. Thanks, Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] LMR600, LMR900, Heliax
Smart move!!! When at all possible, we do that: active elements inside, inactive antenna outside. Design your grounding properly (NOT A MINOR ACHIEVEMENT!!!) and you're set: EVERYTHING goes to 1 common ground, coax lightning kits (outdoors) and in line lightning arrestors (indoors) go to different grounding blocks. Have a problem, check out the radio indoors. We even do this with outdoor-rated radios, specially for backhaul AccessUnits and RemoteBridges. Cell companies do it this way because it's less prone to issues and they have the money to pay for it. In this case, the cost is worth it if you ask me. On WaterTanks we've set up an outdoor, temp controlled weatherproof box (engineered in house with DC-powered fans and battery backup at the base) to house the outdoor units. I should send you pictures. Mario Scott Reed wrote: Who supplies pre-terminated (N connectors) cables in the 70 to 150' range using LMR 600, LMR900 and/or Heliax? Looking to move radios to the bottom of towers. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Is anyone thinking about 17 and 60 ghz?
Bridgewave 60Ghz works excellently! Very nice stuff. Full Gbps full duplex speeds. Few computers or laptops, if any at all, can reach those speeds. Our sysadmin figured a way to test capacity with Cisco switches on both ends by flooding the link. Expensive. Yes. I only see it possible to be deployed in 100%-paid-for PtP projects: medical, government, industrial -- anyway it won't go more than ~700meters, the drier the area the better. If I understood correctly, the US Gov bans US 60Ghz manufacturers from exporting their gear outside the US because when the US military goes somewhere they can't find 60Ghz links -- that's how secure it is: very narrow beamwidths (~1*) and complete signal fade after about 1mile. If you don't know the link is there (or you can't see the antennas) it's practically impossible to find the stuff. Whereas for licensed 70 and 80Ghz all you need to do is look in the FCC website to know who deployed what-where-when and how. Regarding deployment: you need TOTAL LOS. Even branches blowing in and out of the path will drop the link. Mario Dawn DiPietro wrote: Mark, I think 60 Ghz is a good solution if you can afford it. At this point it is still not in the price range of the average WISP but it is great stuff. I think Matt Liotta had a link or 2 with some 60 Ghz gear. Regards, Dawn DiPietro wispa wrote: In the search for the bigger last mile pipe, there's unlicensed at both 17 and 60 ghz. I'm not sure if the consumer electronics industry is up for working at 60 ghz, but what about 17 ghz? Google gets me a lot of theoretical work at both, and engineering discussions of both, but nothing that looks like something otehr than talkware. Mark Koskenmaki Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Form 477 Due Today
Guys, It's pretty late for this in EST but for those in the West coast: Page 14 of the Instructions for the Signed statement form Page 11 of the same doc for the instructions on where to send and how. Go here for it, though I suppose everyone already has it: http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477instr.pdf Mario Mac Dearman wrote: BRIAN, We always fill it out, print it, sign it, scan it and then send it. Mac _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 2:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Form 477 Due Today In the upper right side of the form is says send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I didn't sign anything. I just filled out the few fields I understood and hit send. Brian Forbes Mercy wrote: 17 pages of instructions and no where does it include the address, fax or email to return the Form 477. Where did you guys send it and how did you send the 'required signed' by email? Forbes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Form 477 Due Today Don't think it made it to the isp-wireless list George Rick Harnish wrote: Kris Twomey wanted to remind everyone that FCC Form 477 is due today. Thanks. I know some of you have been spreading the word on the FCC Form 477. It's due tomorrow and all WISPs should be filing it. It'll only take 10 minutes to fill out but the info is vital for the FCC to know that the WISP industry is alive and growing. WISPs can't expect the FCC to create useful rules if they don't know how many WISPs there actually are. http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/data.html Kris __ Kristopher E. Twomey www.lokt.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tv whitespaces filings
Done: 2007223617186 Total time to file: 5 minutes to write up a comment. Total gratification: TOTAL. Mario Don Renner wrote: NetsurfUSA filled - 2007223533293 - Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 12:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tv whitespaces filings I filed: **2007223902414** Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Good grief guys, there are only 12 new filings in the last week or so!! Why, in the name of God, would the FCC give a rats behind about our industry if we can't be bothered to talk to them? Listen, the new rules get made according to the WRITTEN record! Our trips to the FCC are great and we both learn a lot, but when it comes time to make regulations they go to the paperwork that's been filed! EVERYONE here needs to file personally. Here's my confirmation :'2007223682035 Just go to this link: http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi Put 04-186 in the top left box and follow the instructions to voice your opinions on what the FCC should do with the soon to be opened up tv bands! All you have to do is till them to make the bands unlicensed, no auctions, no registration etc. Say more if you want, but we really need to drive home the unlicensed idea. Get off your hind ends guys! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
using equipment from overseas companies Re: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules ?????
Hi, The following question seems germaine to this thread. Who would I talk to at the FCC about the following: -- if I want to use equipment from an overseas-based manufacturer, where would I go to or who could I talk to at the FCC to know certification procedures, equipment allowed or not in licensed or unlicensed spectrum? -- is there a list of FCC approved manufacturers? Thanks. Mario -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: using equipment from overseas companies Re: [WISPA] FollowingtheFCC rules ?????
DITO. Rick Smith wrote: thanks patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: using equipment from overseas companies Re: [WISPA] FollowingtheFCC rules ? Mario, Most of what you are looking for is located on the FCC Web site under the Office of Engineering and Technology section. To certify something or to understand the certification procedures, you can go directly to the cert labs: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/TestFirmSearch.cfm To find what equipment is allowed (or not allowed, which is easier to narrow down in a search), search the equipment authorization database: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm The link above is the same to find approved manufacturers. There is no one list since there are thousands of companies under Part 15 alone (remember, Part 15 covers gazillions of consumer devices too). Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Pommier Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: using equipment from overseas companies Re: [WISPA] Following theFCC rules ? Hi, The following question seems germaine to this thread. Who would I talk to at the FCC about the following: -- if I want to use equipment from an overseas-based manufacturer, where would I go to or who could I talk to at the FCC to know certification procedures, equipment allowed or not in licensed or unlicensed spectrum? -- is there a list of FCC approved manufacturers? Thanks. Mario -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TV white spaces
can you elaborate on HAD offers ... please? Thanks. Mario Steve Stroh wrote: You've HAD offers that have been refused... Thanks, Steve On Jan 24, 2007, at Jan 24 07:10 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: WISPA has been working on this for a couple of years now. Independently and with Cisco, New America, Media Access Project and I've recently had talks with the 802.22 (ieee white spaces standards group) folks. As always, we need more bodies to go a better job. laters, marlon --- Steve Stroh 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Writing about BWIA again! - www.bwianews.com --WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] - Hello Group! - Can we talk towers?
1. I know an engineer who may be able to help you on this one. Knows FAA personnel if I recall correctly from when he helped us with out antenna. He's a certified engineer in NYS, AFAIK, but also does work in CT, VT, FL. 2. Same engineer, had us install a solid-rod Pyrod tower. He designed the whole thing with the tower crew he uses for everything. It was guyed. If this helps I can arrange for him to consult with you. OFF-list for rates, etc. Thanks. Mario Dave Brenton wrote: Hello WISPA! It's great to be aboard. I have several questions about towers, but I'm going to try to hold it to TWO, starting out. 1) Does anyone on the list have experience with the FCC/FAA maze? Our Network Operations Center will be at the base of an as-yet-to-be-constructed 300 foot Commercial Grade Communications Tower. In attempting to get the FCC/FAA Permit(s) to place this tower I've run into a Catch-22, or so it would seem. The FAA Forms want an FCC Registration Number, and of course the FCC Forms want an FAA Registration Number. So. Who's on first? I've searched and searched and cannot find a step-by-step or flowchart explaining the procedure to get the permit process started, let alone completed. Anyone with some experience with this matter will be a hero forever with me. BTW to avoid the questions I explain right now that - - NO we don't NEED a 300 Footer for our wireless coverage, but... I live in the middle of Cell-Hell and I'm willing to speculate the one or more of the Cell Providers in this area will Co-Locate once an actual structure is in place. Also the extra altitude will make if practical to Back-Haul bandwidth for many-many miles thus reducing our wire-line costs to a minimum. 2) Who's brands of towers are ya'll using? I need some guidance for smaller towers 100-150 ft range, self supporting and guyed. I have heard of some brands, but I also have concerns about Wind Tolerance, since we are in an area that does produce tornados from time to time. I'd prefer to spend the money on a product that will hold up and I'm not uncomfortable Climbing, IF I Must. That's plenty for a first go. Thanks loads, Dave Brenton General Manager Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband Bringing FAST Internet to the rest of us (sm) Dover TN (931) 232-0914 office (931) 627-1142 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
off topic -- Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings - Competing
I see your point, Sam. Perhaps products like Linksys Routers could be a better example, or how about YouTube? for the argument, or even our residential customers (this oen rings a bell for many of us in this tech service industry, going all the way back to dialup days). I'm not sure about Walmart or MacDonalds not profiting at the expense of the customer (or others) argument: - McD's hamburgers aren't that healthy according to what health folks say, and common folks who eat there regularly prove. - Walmart's employee practices don't seem to be that just either, according to what analysts say. Mario Sam Tetherow wrote: There actually are some of us out here that don't have this luxury in our markets. My total market is approximately 3000 people (not households) and I have to go 45 miles in any direction to find another town with more than 80 people in it. I'm not saying this in a 'woe is me' tone, just stating a fact. Some of us operate in the well under 10,000 people areas where 'finding a higher ARPU customer' is not really a viable option. We have to be all things in order to have enough customers to pay the bills. The top 10% of my market would get me less than 100 customers and they would have an average income of less than $100K. As a slightly off-topic aside: (those that don't want to listen to my ramblings can safely stop here :) I do find the Walmart reference interesting. Since I have started this business I have tried to read as much as I can in terms of business, marketing and sales books. Having come from a purely tech background it astounds me how clueless I really was until I started a business. One of the things that I have struggled with is the price point vs service aspect of the business. Obviously being the cheapest option has it's sales advantages, especially in the residential best effort internet business. But as we all know, being the cheapest makes it a bit harder to pay the bills. When I read business and marketing books they all espouse the higher end customer is the better customer view. I understand this view, you have a valued customer who is willing to pay a reasonable price for quality service. You look at brands like Lexus and Bose and think, these are the people I need to be like. These companies have made millionaires. But what I find interesting is that companies like Walmart and McDonalds who do live in the quantity, not quality world have made billionaires. The trick seems to be, if you can somehow manages to be the cheapest and do it right you can make a boat load of money and it doesn't have to be at the expense of the customer. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Peter R. wrote: John J. Thomas wrote: But, the model will work if you bill by the bytes If Joe is paying $40 per month for 6 Gig and gets throttled at 6 Gig, then he has a disincentive for keeping going. If he is paying $40 for unlimited access, he has no reason to slow down. Charter cable is doing 10 meg down/1 meg up in some markets for like $99 per month, how can you compete with that? John Well, the reality is this: you can't compete with it. And why try? Why not move upstream to a larger ARPU customer? Cable ILEC can handle and deliver service to the masses cheaply - for now. But there is a segment of every population that needs more than the cheap dumb pipe attached to the cheap dumb support. That is the GAP. That is where the money is. That is where your market is. But it may mean selling beyond just a pipe. I've been preaching this for years - and clients that have listened - narrowed their focus; but the shotgun (marketing) away; have done well. See articles here: http://www.rad-info.net/newsletters/walmart16.htm And there:http://www.rad-info.net/newsletters/winninger.htm Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. (813) 963-5884 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] More debate over the 700MHz spectrum..
Those analog converter boxes: where do people buy those and who offers them? How about an agency dispensing vouchers for Wireless CPE in order to transition users in rural areas into fixed wireless broadband at sub-700Mhz unlicensed spectrum? Is this too much to ask? Or too naive? or both? Mario Dawn DiPietro wrote: High-tech interests come out against increased spectrum for public safety The National Telecommunications and Information Administration, a Commerce Department unit that advises the White House on telecom policy and manages federal government spectrum, has the lead in educating the public. The agency plans to dispense vouchers to subsidize the cost of digital-to-analog converter boxes. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TV white spaces
Any info through the grapevine about the likelihood of this spectrum becoming unlicensed? Then, I suppose a standard will have to be drafted and approved before we see any gear. So is that a couple of years if we're lucky before we can use sub-700Mhz to penetrate through trees in rural America? Thanks. Mario Dawn DiPietro wrote: All, This might clear up some confusion about which spectrum might become unlicensed. As quoted from the press release; The WIN Act specifically requires the FCC to permit license-free use of the unassigned broadcast spectrum between 54MHz and 698 MHz within 180 days of enactment. This legislation will enable entrepreneurs to provide affordable, competitive high-speed wireless broadband services in areas that otherwise have no connectivity to broadband Internet. Links below; http://kerry.senate.gov/v3/cfm/record.cfm?id=267392 http://www.newamerica.net/programs/wireless_future Regards, Dawn DiPietro -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 Mhz and snow and Pacwireless Yagi's.
Mark Koskenmaki wrote: I have one 900 mhz ap and one client. When I first set up this client, we were decidedly NOT LOS and it goes through a few pine and fir trees. Im not sure that is only what is in the way.Possibly a bit of dirt, too.For some reason, I appear to have HUGE changes in RSSI. It appears when we get to around 28 or so, or below, the signal comes up to what it was when we installed. That is, around -80 to -85. When it gets warm, it appears to fall into the mid -90's... or, basically not working. Will wet snow on Pac Yagis cause signal loss? Yes, Mark: I've seen it before -- we once had weather that brought down 5 or 6 900Mhz customers in different of the river (Hudson) and it then became obvious what the common characteristic was: yagi's. We've since changed several of those. Mario Does frozen snow on trees block less than wet (melting?) snow on trees? I'm really frustrated with this particular setup, as we've had NOTHING but trouble... +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Canopy actual throughput
Thanks, Charles, What would that something be called? Mario Charles Wu wrote: SNIP Qcheck is a horrible program for accurately checking bandwidth, I would recommend you look into something that actually works like Iperf -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Pommier Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Canopy actual throughput Mario -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Canopy actual throughput
Hi, those of you who use Canopy 900: what is the actual throughput you've gotten to the CPE? 4Mbps or less? Has anyone run a bandwidth test while passing traffic simultaneously in both directions (such as with Qcheck)? Thanks a lot. Mario -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Overage plan help
Marlon, You can make all your mail traffic go through Postini without being charged more, and you can still charge the customer the $1 fee for usage. And, yeah, people do like. Mario Marlon K. Schafer wrote: We don't put everyone on Postini. We charge those that want the filtering $1 per month. Like John and Forbes, it's cost is too high to just include automatically. Instead, we make money on spam. I'd say around half of our customers and almost all hosted domains take Postini. We're actually using the usage stats to help us sell Postini. No one wants to pay an overage fee just to receive all that dang spam :-). laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Overage plan help If you have not done it already, putting everyone on your Postini system will decrease your mail server bandwidth substantially. Frank Muto FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Partner Reseller http://wispa.spam-virus.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to keep billing per bit. It's, by far, the most effective way to compete against cable and dsl. It's also a good way to push the hogs over to competing services. Our average user is running at about 1.7 gigs per month. This includes all of my servers and the mail server alone hit 50 gigs last month. So I'll bet that the average user is actually under 1.5 gigs per month. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ups feedback
Hi, I'm looking for feedback from the field on this UPS: Tripp Lite *SMART1200LCD (can be rack mounted, 2U)? They are about $100 less than a 2U-750-VA APC model ... thus the question. I've never used them so I wouldn't want to recommend it to the customer. Thanks. Mario* -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need opinion
Carlos, that's your first item, your line of thinking seems accurate: Cisco, Proxim, Trango, Alvarion, StarOS, Mikrotik -- what equipment will you choose and what is the advantage/disadvantage of each. Maybe your first perspective is: do you want to go with a finished, packaged product, or do you want to be able to play more with the tools and toys out there? The type of computer person you are may be a good guide: do you deploy your own Unix/Linux based routers or do you buy Cisco finished products? Hope that helps some. Mario Carlos A. Garcia G wrote: Thank u very much, but the question it is, i do not know many equipments, i have only work with cisco aironet, the last time i do something similar and get the cisco 1300 series the problem it is that in order that this work i have to use 4 radios 1300--[1300 -ethernet-1300]--1300 and what i need it is to know for example: the proxim LMG22 work in 5.8 and can be used as: LMG22--LMG22--LMG22 im currently looking with cisco, proxym, trango, mikrotik but i dont get the answer that im looking for. Mike Brownson escribió: Carlos, It all depends on how big a hill and what speed you need. There is some PtP equipment (Motorola PtP, formerly Orthogon) that can talk over the hill in one link if the hill is not too big or the distance is not too long. Other option is to put another repeater in between. But that means another radio site. If you want to send me latitude and longitude of both sites I can see if the one radio link will work. Mike B Carlos A. Garcia G wrote: Hi i have a problem i need to establish a wireless link betwen my ofice and another ofice there are a hill betwen so what equipment or vendors do i have to contact: look! NOC -- POP -- OFFICE -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fiber Supplier
/Dan The Cable Man Oberholtzer at Elepro.com has always been a very good source of fiber for me. 26601 - 79th Ave South Kent, WA 98032 Phone: 800-423-0646 Fax: 253-859-9101 http://elepro.com/ Mario// / Scott Reed wrote: I have the opportunity to bid a inside fiber installation. I have a supplier of fiber, but am looking for another one or two for competitive bids. Any recommendations for who to contact for about 6000' of multimode 50um fiber, 12 strand? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS
We've done it two ways: 1. Electric - Power converter/charger -12V Batteries - DC regulator - DC radios: no AC power adapters 2. Electric - Power converter/charger -12V Batteries - DC regulator - DC-to-AC converter - AC power adapters so we use the DC setup to isolate AC lightning danger. Mario Rick Smith wrote: stupid question. Normally, power supplies convert from AC to DC. If you wire DC into an outlet, and plug an AC power supply into it, will it just cut down the DC to whatever that P/S is supposed to provide to the POE unit, and pass the rest ? i.e. Solar 48V - 24V Batteries - 24VDC - Outlets w/normal AC P/Ss plugged into them outputting 5vdc to an AP or the like - will it work ? I imagine it will, albeit terribly inefficient... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 7:32 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] External battery on UPS Looking for the most efficient use of the battery power and the kit to achieve it. Old APC's are easy enough to track down on ebay but normally only have standard AC outputs so I'm guessing you would connect both an APC and Ethernet direct to the batteries? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Pommier Sent: 24 November 2006 19:04 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS Yes, Paul. What are you looking for? Mario Paul Hendry wrote: Just out of interest, does anyone run batteries (via fuses) directly into cat5 instead of converting back to AC just to run standard 48v PoE up the tower? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wallace Sent: 17 November 2006 21:19 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS Thanks Brian -Original Message- From: Brian Rohrbacher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 09:41 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS I'm pasting Gino's link to the right thread. Then I can search me email in a year and find the correct thread Connectors: http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=263-110 Batteries: http://www.donrowe.com/batteries/8a31dt.html Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Can we get some links to these batteries that work well? Gino, Got a link to the DC block connectors you were talking about? Brian Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, We run two 4 gauge power wires out the front of the case, connect the positive to a 60A fuse, and then to the batteries. We are using AGM type (same thing used in UPS systems) big batteries (a little bigger than a car battery, but each battery is 110 pounds). We wire them in series (to get 24VDC). This setup has only been installed for 12-18 months at various locations, so I don't have an estimate on battery life. Travis Microserv Brian Rohrbacher wrote: You got any pics of this or similar Travisanyone? Travis, What APC do you use and what batteries are added? What do you draw and what is th run time? Do you know how many times the one with the most cycles has been drawn down? How long do the batteries last? Brian Travis Johnson wrote: You can't use just 1 battery. The APC units want to see 24vdc, so you need two batteries running in series. It works perfectly, as I have 20+ remote locations running off two gel type batteries. Make sure you install some type of a fuse on the positive side of the connection. Travis Microserv Mark Nash - Lists wrote: I believe I remember some discussion on this list on connecting an external battery to an APC UPS. I'm in the middle of doing it right now and am having problems. The UPS just beep continuously with the 'bad battery' light on. I'm using a Lifeline deep cycle battery. Any ideas? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/548 - Release Date: 23/11/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wall mount racks
Thanks, Jory. Mario Jory Privett wrote: Here is the closest I can get. http://www.icintracom.com/america/wall-mount-cabinet-p-5047.html?osCsid=9e471ca66006924051cb4861fca4da73 Cost about $275 Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Mario Pommier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:26 AM Subject: [WISPA] wall mount racks Does anyone have access to reasonably priced wall mount racks like this one? ~36x24x24. I've found them on Ebay before for ~$350 but no luck now. Thanks a lot. Mario -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS
Yes, Paul. What are you looking for? Mario Paul Hendry wrote: Just out of interest, does anyone run batteries (via fuses) directly into cat5 instead of converting back to AC just to run standard 48v PoE up the tower? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wallace Sent: 17 November 2006 21:19 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS Thanks Brian -Original Message- From: Brian Rohrbacher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 09:41 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS I'm pasting Gino's link to the right thread. Then I can search me email in a year and find the correct thread Connectors: http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=263-110 Batteries: http://www.donrowe.com/batteries/8a31dt.html Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Can we get some links to these batteries that work well? Gino, Got a link to the DC block connectors you were talking about? Brian Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, We run two 4 gauge power wires out the front of the case, connect the positive to a 60A fuse, and then to the batteries. We are using AGM type (same thing used in UPS systems) big batteries (a little bigger than a car battery, but each battery is 110 pounds). We wire them in series (to get 24VDC). This setup has only been installed for 12-18 months at various locations, so I don't have an estimate on battery life. Travis Microserv Brian Rohrbacher wrote: You got any pics of this or similar Travisanyone? Travis, What APC do you use and what batteries are added? What do you draw and what is th run time? Do you know how many times the one with the most cycles has been drawn down? How long do the batteries last? Brian Travis Johnson wrote: You can't use just 1 battery. The APC units want to see 24vdc, so you need two batteries running in series. It works perfectly, as I have 20+ remote locations running off two gel type batteries. Make sure you install some type of a fuse on the positive side of the connection. Travis Microserv Mark Nash - Lists wrote: I believe I remember some discussion on this list on connecting an external battery to an APC UPS. I'm in the middle of doing it right now and am having problems. The UPS just beep continuously with the 'bad battery' light on. I'm using a Lifeline deep cycle battery. Any ideas? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] wall mount racks
Does anyone have access to reasonably priced wall mount racks like this one? ~36x24x24. I've found them on Ebay before for ~$350 but no luck now. Thanks a lot. Mario -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 750feet FSO
No, but I will, first thing today ... I was actually looking for that link since I remember a few posts related to cablefreesolutions several months ago. Thanks a lot. Mario Brad Belton wrote: Have you spoken with Stephen Patrick at www.cablefreesolutions.com yet? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Pommier Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 750feet FSO Can anyone say if you've successfully installed Free Space Optics at ~750feet? A customer seeking to expand mentioned this company: http://www.mrv.com/products/line/terescope.php I've never heard that FSO actually performs reliably. Thanks. Mario -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 750feet FSO
Can anyone say if you've successfully installed Free Space Optics at ~750feet? A customer seeking to expand mentioned this company: http://www.mrv.com/products/line/terescope.php I've never heard that FSO actually performs reliably. Thanks. Mario -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wireless fiber revisited
The fact you say it's a nice radio is encouraging, Tom, for me since I'm considering deploying it. But it would still be nice to hear from one or two wISP's who can say yeah, I have one installed; it's working fine, or whatever the feedback is. Anyone??? Mario Tom DeReggi wrote: It doesn;t really matter, because the Proxim GB 60Ghz PTP radio is a nice radio, and not likely to get discontinued who ever ends up owning the change ownership happy Proxim. The bigger question is wether 60Ghz will meet your need. The real excitement is in the 70 Ghz and 80Ghz bands, that have longer distances applicable for WISPs. What will be most existing is when 70-80Ghz gear is down to Proxim 60Ghz price. I really see no reason a 70-80Ghz radio needs to be any more costly than the 60Ghz ones. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mario Pommier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:26 PM Subject: [WISPA] wireless fiber revisited Hi, Several weeks ago I posted BridgeWave and GigaBeam prices and quick features of wireless Gbps gear. Has anyone tried or know about this option: -- Proxim Gigalink 6451e- 60Ghz; unlicensed; $10,500 complete link; ? 5-year hardware warranty; 1Gbps Pricing is attractive, isn't it (specially when customer's budget is very constrained)? But is Proxim a reliable company at this point? Thanks. Mario Previous options posted: -- BridgeWave - 60Ghz; unlicensed; $25,000 complete link; ~$6,000 5-year hardware warranty; 1Gbps -- GigaBeam - 70/80Ghz; licensed; $37,000 complete link (includes $1,000 10-year license); $0.00 5-year hardware warranty; 2.7Gbps release by Dec. 2006. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/465 - Release Date: 10/6/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] wireless fiber revisited
Hi, Several weeks ago I posted BridgeWave and GigaBeam prices and quick features of wireless Gbps gear. Has anyone tried or know about this option: -- Proxim Gigalink 6451e- 60Ghz; unlicensed; $10,500 complete link; ? 5-year hardware warranty; 1Gbps Pricing is attractive, isn't it (specially when customer's budget is very constrained)? But is Proxim a reliable company at this point? Thanks. Mario Previous options posted: -- BridgeWave - 60Ghz; unlicensed; $25,000 complete link; ~$6,000 5-year hardware warranty; 1Gbps -- GigaBeam - 70/80Ghz; licensed; $37,000 complete link (includes $1,000 10-year license); $0.00 5-year hardware warranty; 2.7Gbps release by Dec. 2006. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations
Matt, Pete, Can you state what kinds of radios these installs involve? are these PoE radios, what brand, what kind of terrain you're installing in, rural/metro area? Is grounding being done? What if they install a non-pen mount? Same price? Where does install end: i.e. do they ahve to do an indoor run to where the network equipment is? It would help to gauge what's involved. Thanks. BTW, we haven't gone to outsourcing, not yet anyway. Mario Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: I started out with having my own installers, vans, equipment etc., but have switched over to outsourcing almost all of our installations. At this time last year, I had two different outsourced installers going at the same time. We did 80 installs last September and our cost was a little bit more than what we were paying our own installers. The real difference came when we had a slow month (30-40 installs) and we only had to pay for the installs that were completed. One of the installers we worked with left to get a higher paying job, and it worked out well for all of us. Except for the fact that we have had to go out and redo about 25 of his installs because he was mounting too low in the houses or putting radios behind trees in the winter. That kind of sucked. The other installers has a little bit of a language barrier, being from Peru - and was kind of sloppy with his installs at first. Over the long run, he has turned out to be great, as he has stepped up and done everything we have asked him to do and improved the quality of his work considerably along the way. I now give him everything that I can, including service calls. It has been a much better situation to be able to outsource to a good contractor. Our successful install rate is much higher and we have been able to focus on running and growing our network instead of stupid stuff. I am paying $90 to $120 per install (depending on mileage, some places are 300 miles round trip), $35 per service call and $35 for de-installs. That is working very well for me. Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pete Davis wrote: We outsource most of our installs to our employees. The two techs usually go out together, and split the $100. Its not unheard of for my techs to make more money on a busy week than I take in my salary, and I am an owner. They make $x/hr to do service calls, uninstalls, AP maintenance, etc and if they can keep those caught up, we schedule an install (usually 1 or 2 /day for 2 techs). They are OFF the clock for installs, and get $100/install. We provide the van, the tools, the gas, the CPE, and all consumables (staples, caulk, cat5, ends, jacks, faceplates, etc). That keeps them from usually turning in overtime. It gives them an incentive for completing installs in a timely manner (2 hr install = $25/hr/tech). Any service calls resulting from a faulty/sloppy install in the first 30 days result in the installer techs going on site to fix it on THEIR time, so they have an incentive to get it done right the first time around. We have a few other local IT/phone/security system consultants who will occasionally bring us a customer and offer to install them, since they are an existing consulting customer for them anyway and usually selling them a custom network/phone system/security system/audio system anyway. We will usually give them $125 or $150 and provide the CPE and minimal technical support. They will bring us the contract/customer worksheet for our files, and we don't even have to go on site. Since we usually charge $149 for the setup, we often let the consultant charge whatever he wants, and keep it, and put in as many custom cable runs and terminations as they can sell. We just start picking up the monthly billing. Those are good relationships to have. Pete Davis NoDial.net chris cooper wrote: Im sure this has been covered before….. Have any of you outsourced installations? If so, has it been a positive experience, how much do you pay a contractor? Thanks Chris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.7/454 - Release Date: 9/21/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL Fixes Problems with Backhaul Links
John, Good to hear you got issues fixed, independent of the manufacturer/vendor you used. Regarding the radios you're using now. Some of us, like our company, started with Alvarion and never switched out. It's hard to try other technologies that appear less expensive, when the one you already have proves itself year after year after year. And when you can talk to really good engineering support. OK, so we haven't found a way to use Alvarion equipment on residential markets except where we don't have to compete with $30/mo dsl. But I know some folks, even on this list, who somehow have done that. But on the business side, our transition from Alvarion BAII or 900 to VL has had the same response from our customers that you describe wow, that is fast. Mind you, these customers are still limited on our bandwidth manager to the same 1Mbps symmetrical speeds. But the VL network just seems to fly compared to the previous, 4 or more year old technologies now. It's also hard to try out other technologies when someone like you give a report like this one: I was thinking about using Trango for a link, but I do not want headaches, not today and not 5 years from today. Thanks. Mario John Scrivner wrote: As you guys know my company was having some serious speed and reliability issues with our existing Trango backhaul some time back. We have about 25 tower locations in Southern Illinois which until recently were all fed from these Trango radios. We had countless short outages, signal irregularities, bandwidth crunches, etc. The Trangos used to work just fine. In the last year or so the Trango links have become a big problem for us. We tried several things to fix these problems but the Trangos were simply being pushed to do more than they were designed to do. The amount of packet counts, speed, etc. we needed to reliably serve the towers simply was too much for these radios and they were buckling under the strain. I have always thought highly of Alvarion and knew we could probably find a good place for their equipment in our network someday. Previously the trouble with choosing Alvarion had always been that we either needed something they did not offer at the time needed ( as was the case when we selected Trango for multi-point 5 GHz backhaul back in the day) or that they were too expensive. Alvarion finally has a place in our network. In the case of our troubled backhaul links Alvarion's VL product seemed to fit the bill to help us now. We had seen reports of 50,000 packet per second throughput and up to 35 megabit per second capacity with the new Version 4 of the VL firmware. When I asked about the product I was directed to a guy named Mike Cowan of Wireless Connections who is a RF engineer and sells Alvarion VL. Mike spent an incredible amount of time with our staff to look over the issues we were having and help us find ways of correcting it. He never charged us a dime for what I consider to be thousands of dollars worth of support and training. Mike Cowan and Alvarion did more for us to help us build a better WISP network than any vendor ever has since the day I became a WISP. We also had some serious peer to peer traffic issues on our network which were resolved with a Mikrotik box running to slow down that traffic. The combination of this box and the new more robust Alvarion VL backhaul has led customers to remark, It's like the difference between night and day. We have zero downtime on our backhaul now. We were getting countless reports of downtime from our network monitoring system before. Now it just works. I don't think I can overstate the impact Alvarion VL has had on my network. If you are having problems with your network then you need to at least call Alvarion and give them a shot. In the last three months or so we have migrated about 40% of our backhaul links over to Alvarion VL. Since that time outages on those most troubled links have vanished. Throughput has tripled. People have gone from screaming and yelling to sending their friends to us to hookup. If you guys want to compare the numbers out there I am sure you will find a few different systems that will give comparable umbers to what we are seeing with Alvarion VL. What you do not see in those numbers is the quality and the reliability of the system. I have always been a tinkerer and I will continue to tinker. What I believe though is that there is something to be said for buying a high-quality, engineered system and that is what you get with Alvarion VL. If you have tower locations and/or enterprise customers who cannot afford to be a test subject for your tinkering then consider calling Alvarion for those links. There is no shame in admitting you cannot possibly build a system as reliable as a company who has spent millions of dollars and hired countless designers to research and build a better data radio. I am certainly not ashamed to
[WISPA] inexpensive internal point-to-point
what would you recommend for an internal point to point link, going 50 feet across a backyard? need: inexpensive; needs to be wireless. harware budget is no more than: $300. any thoughts? Mario --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower ice buildup
solid rod towers is all I can say. Don't know if Trylon is solid or hollow. Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have looked at the AN Wireless product line and they look like great towers and are close by in PA, but they don't make anything over 120 feet. I need to get higher than that to ensure LOS to some key areas. I believe my ice question will be answered shortly, the county's communication site coordinator is having one of his engineers send me the requirements. I'm looking for other suggestions for light duty self-support towers or monopoles as close to 200' as possible but below the 200 mark to avoid FCC registration and FAA marking. Have been looking at www.usedtowers.com but I will need stamped PE drawings for my state so any of those will need to be re-engineered. Trylon is appealing because they will supply the engineering drawings and the cost is relatively low. I don't have room for a guyed tower. Suggestions? Patrick PLEASE take a look at www.anwireless.com for tower considerations. Their HD series is much beefier then the Trylon towers. When compared side to side - you'll be pleased. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:29 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Tower ice buildup Hello list, I am planning the installation of a self-supporting tower for a startup WISP in Maryland. I am considering light duty off-the-shelf designs from Trylon such as the SuperTitan. I am trying to determine whether to include ice buildup as a factor in the tower purchase. I have obtained maximum wind speed data from the local building department but they were clueless when it came to considerations for ice buildup. What's the best practice for arriving at this figure? Patrick Shoemaker -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] wireless fiber deployment
This is a new area of wireless deployment for me: I've been asked to quote for a gigabit wireless link between a radiology department and a nearby hospital (0.4 miles). I'm aware of two options so far, and here's some info I've gathered: -- BridgeWave - 60Ghz; unlicensed; $25,000 complete link; ~$6,000 5-year hardware warranty; 1Gbps -- GigaBeam - 70/80Ghz; licensed; $37,000 complete link (includes $1,000 10-year license); $0.00 5-year hardware warranty; 2.7Gbps release by Dec. 2006. I know Bob Moldashel said he has installed the Bridgewave. Anyone care to comment on any experience you've had with these companies? Thanks a lot. Mario -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wireless fiber deployment
Good to hear that. Priced similarly? Thanks. Mario Matt Liotta wrote: We deploy BrideWave gear and have been happy with it. BridgeWave also has a licensed radio operating in the 80Ghz range. -Matt Mario Pommier wrote: This is a new area of wireless deployment for me: I've been asked to quote for a gigabit wireless link between a radiology department and a nearby hospital (0.4 miles). I'm aware of two options so far, and here's some info I've gathered: -- BridgeWave - 60Ghz; unlicensed; $25,000 complete link; ~$6,000 5-year hardware warranty; 1Gbps -- GigaBeam - 70/80Ghz; licensed; $37,000 complete link (includes $1,000 10-year license); $0.00 5-year hardware warranty; 2.7Gbps release by Dec. 2006. I know Bob Moldashel said he has installed the Bridgewave. Anyone care to comment on any experience you've had with these companies? Thanks a lot. Mario --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 73 mile link
Gentlemen, Is this even doable?: 74 mile point-to-point link. Very Clear LOS to mountaintop. Thinking of a 40Mbps minimum. This means 5.8Ghz I guess. This is the kind of thing I have to stretch my mind to in order to reduce my bandwidth costs to the internet. Thanks. Mario --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story
Tom, Real basic question: Can you explain the comment on wishing to have the War/V3 solution? What would War/V3 have given you? Mario Tom DeReggi wrote: Just completed install for client, that we quoted blind. The supposed Near-LOS partial freznel obstruction from a building, unfortuneately turned out to really mean NON-LOS through thick row of pine trees between buildings. Buildings were probably 600 yards away from each other. The Trango built-in antenna model installed pulled 46 mbps throughput and zero packet loss, perfect link. WooHoo. (I know short distance, but pine trees scare me, and often have unpredictable results even when doing 900Mhz). Only negative thing was Trango made the profit, allowing me only to make $200 markup, instead of the original $1500, that I had originally covered in my quote with a Routerboard 532 solution, that didn't get the 30mbps capacity requirement. My pocket book, wishes I had the War/V3 solution a week earlier :-( Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: StarOS Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:44 PM Subject: [WISPA] Re: StarOS With the nazi administration currently in power, one should think twice before deciding someone shouldn't be allowed to say or write things. But, I must say this statement is like a Linux loon calling FreeBSD crap. - cw JohnnyO wrote: I was not interested in reading posts labled Routerboard 532 and Star-OS crap. If I were interested in Star-OS crap instead of Mikrotik, then I would look for posts labled Star-OS ! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] fiber connection for bridgewave
Has anyone here delved into the option of terminating fiber runs for a bridgewave gigabit link? What's more economical -- to hire out the termination job or getting training and buying the terminating equipment onself? If the latter, where have you gotten the training and equipment? (I've heard the equipment is expensive). Mario --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 900 Mhz bandpass filters
Anyone know of a source for 900 Mhz bandpass filters to selectively filter out other transmitters within the 902-to-928 Mhz frequencies. In my particular case, I'd need to filter our from 902-to-915 Mhz, so I can transmit in the 917-to-922 range. Thanks. Mario --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 95th percentile calculator
Does anyone know of a cost-effective option for a 95th percentile bandwidth usage calculator? Say for example, an add-on to the Mikrotik bandwidth manager? Thanks. Mario --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 95th percentile calculator
That's it, thanks. Mario Russ Kreigh wrote: Could you run cacti on an interface of the Mikrotik and build a 95th percentile graph? Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Broadband Wireless Supernova Technologies Office: (800) 363-0989 Direct: (260) 827-2486 Fax:(260) 824-9624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Pommier Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 4:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 95th percentile calculator Does anyone know of a cost-effective option for a 95th percentile bandwidth usage calculator? Say for example, an add-on to the Mikrotik bandwidth manager? Thanks. Mario --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: Google, eBay and Amazon may build their own wireless Internet
So the 700Mhz won't be unlicensed? Or even if licensed, unavailable to the small wISP? Thanks. Mario Marlon K. Schafer wrote: - Original Message - From: John Oram [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Marlon Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:17 PM Subject: Google, eBay and Amazon may build their own wireless Internet http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=17artnum=1issue=20060410 Internet Technology Internet, Media Outfits Could Bid For Spectrum BY REINHARDT KRAUSE INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY Posted 4/10/2006 Analysts are speculating that Internet and media companies could team up to bid for radio spectrum in order to launch wireless broadband services, as a way around the phone companies. Rumors that nontelecom companies could bid for wireless spectrum have floated around for a few years. The new speculation focuses on large Internet content firms such as Google, (GOOG) Amazon.com, (AMZN) and eBay. (EBAY) Fueling the talk is a regulatory battle — the network neutrality issue — pitting Internet firms against phone companies ATT, (T) Verizon Communications, (VZ) and BellSouth. (BLS) Phone companies want to charge Internet firms for moving movies, video games, music and other bandwidth-hungry content over their networks. This is aside from the subscription fees they charge broadband subscribers. Under their plan, Internet firms would pay extra to transmit content via faster and more secure lanes on the Internet highway. Internet firms object. They want lawmakers and regulators to guarantee network neutrality. That means all Internet traffic would be treated the same, and that phone company customers couldn't get special treatment over others. Phone companies and cable TV operators provide most high-speed connections to homes. Cable firms are part of the debate, but for now phone outfits are in the forefront. By owning their own radio spectrum, Internet and media firms could deliver services to homes via their own wireless broadband pipe. But that's only if they pay the billions of dollars the spectrum is expected to garner at auction, plus build wireless networks. Few Taking Any Bets That's a big if, but phone companies are watching closely because the stakes are so high. It wouldn't shock me to find a range of unusual bidders in the upcoming spectrum auctions, said Jim Cicconi, ATT senior vice president for legislative affairs. But there's no question about his point of view. Experience has shown that some companies haven't needed a well thought-out business plan to bid (in earlier auctions), he said. The federal government has two big spectrum auctions in the works. One is scheduled for June and involves spectrum in the 1710-1755 and 2110-2155 MHz frequency bands. The second auction would involve frequency in the 700 MHz band. That auction depends on TV broadcasters returning spectrum to the government after they move to high definition. That auction might not occur until 2008. Cicconi suggests that wireless broadband might not be the best business for Internet or media firms. He says they might be better off cutting a deal with ATT or other phone companies, which are experienced network operators. Any content provider would have a build vs. buy (bandwidth) decision to make, he added. What's the cost of building out your own network as opposed to contracting for a service? Real-Time Video Isn't Easy Cicconi adds that it would be challenging for Internet firms to deliver streaming video services reliably via wireless broadband. Some methods that Internet and media firms seem to be eyeing don't involve real-time streaming. Instead, video or other content could be downloaded to a computer, digital video recorder or portable device. That's less taxing on a network. ATT and other phone companies have promised not to block network access or degrade service to companies that don't agree to pay a premium rate. And current services that gobble up bandwidth — such as Google's video store and Apple Computer's (AAPL) iTunes music service — seem to be doing fine. Internet companies are eyeing bigger bandwidth-hungry services, analysts say. Amazon, for one, is expected to launch a digital distribution service including music and movies by year-end. Phone carriers say it's unfair for them to invest more in network infrastructure to carry Internet firms' content if they can't make more money as the middleman. It's unclear whether Congress or the Federal Communications Commission will adopt any broad policies involving network neutrality. One bill in Congress would let the FCC address complaints from content firms on a case-by-case basis. Web companies that have pushed for Congress' help include Google, Amazon, eBay, Microsoft (MSFT) and Yahoo. (YHOO) Walt Disney (DIS) has said it doesn't think legislation to guarantee network
[WISPA] access near Shirley, WVa.
Anyone provide access in West Union, West Viriginia, near Shirley? Address: HC67 Box 197 West Union, W Va. 26456 I understand it's the backwoods. The customer is high up on a hill/mountain. Thanks. Mario --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] phone-to-voip-to-ethernet conversion
Thanks A LOT. I'll let you know I end up trying. Mario Brian Whigham wrote: Mario, Let me preface my suggestion with the fact that you didn't specify how many extensions were at the remote office nor what brand of PBX you're using. Since you suggested a one line Linksys device, I'll assume you're only dealing with a hand full of extensions, at most. Otherwise, you might want to look into bridging a T1 signal with channel banks on each side; or better yet, you could pipe all PBX extensions (for the remote office) into a channel bank and convert to a T1 which feeds into an Asterisk server (with Digium T1 card). I suspect that going into this would be overkill. That said, I'd be weary of mixing VoIP and PBX. I've had Digium equipment hooked to a Lucent Partner system fry (unable to handle extension signalling?). And I suppose you might even fry ports on the PBX end (I believe I had that problem too). I would generally stay away from mixing legacy PBX (fxo ports) and VoIP ATAs. But, you'll save a ton by getting your proposed setup to work. So, it's worth a shot. But, I wouldn't guarantee anything to my boss if I were you. John's suggestion is the correct setup. Not sure what hardware would be best; but you might try WRT54GL (with DD-WRT firmware) for AP and bridge solution and a Sipura 3000. The sipura allows for incoming TDM calls (on FXO port) to route to VoIP port (rather than a simple FXS phone). You need this functionality in your situation. Then use your preferred VoIP phone on the remote end. Keep in mind that you will probably not be able to dial extensions from the remote end, though you theoretically should be able to have extension dialing from the main office to the remote end POTS phone. I call the remote end a POTS phone because POTS signalling is basically the only common denominator between the remote end and the main office. Typical VoIP ATAs don't understand (and can't generate) Samsung/Lucent/Other legacy, proprietary PBX signalling. There are some VoIP devices out there that are made to integrate with legacy PBX systems. I haven't tried them; and prepare to pay $. If you could find one, that could get outbound extension dialing from the remote office. Oh, and that solution is just for one phone. You'd need multiple sipuras for multiple phones (or split it out with an ATA on the remote end to another PBX and have the main office dial extensions to get to someone at the remote office; this would be ugly). Hope that helps, Brian Whigham Yonder Networks www.yondernetworks.com John J. Thomas wrote: PBXFXOmoduleEthernetWirelessBridgeWirelessBridgeEthernetFXS module Here is one example, Google will probably get you cheaper ones John -Original Message- From: Mario Pommier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2006 10:57 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] phone-to-voip-to-ethernet conversion I have an interesting application, that maybe someone has tried: Customer is expanding to a remote office, across the street from the main office. They need to connect voice and data between the two. There's clear LOS, so a wireless link will work. The telephone PBX is at the main office, of course. I need to send avoice line across the wireless link from the main office to the remote one. How do I add the voice? Couldn't I simply do this? PBX [telephone cord][Linksys VoIP phone]-[switch (which also has an uplink to the wired network)][wireless radio] On the other side of the link, the telephone cord would go into a desktop phone terminal. Thanks. Mario --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TV spectrum
just fyi, that link doesn't find anything. M John Scrivner wrote: SNIP Now I want you guys, all of you guys, to go to http://www.house.gov/writerep/ and write a letter to your Rep. The site will find your rep by zip code for you. Even if you are not in the states where this laughable legislation originated you need to speak out. We obviously do not want to alienate the whole House of Representatives but we do need them to understand that this is not going to come close to doing the job they are trying to do and that this is not going to fix anything unless we have access to a larger amount of quality spectrum. So please go now and make this happen, right now, in the next 10 minutes. Scriv Dawn DiPietro wrote: All, Could this be good news for WISP's? Any thoughts on how this may affect the wireless industry? Regards, Dawn --- --- --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] phone-to-voip-to-ethernet conversion
I have an interesting application, that maybe someone has tried: Customer is expanding to a remote office, across the street from the main office. They need to connect voice and data between the two. There's clear LOS, so a wireless link will work. The telephone PBX is at the main office, of course. I need to send avoice line across the wireless link from the main office to the remote one. How do I add the voice? Couldn't I simply do this? PBX [telephone cord][Linksys VoIP phone]-[switch (which also has an uplink to the wired network)][wireless radio] On the other side of the link, the telephone cord would go into a desktop phone terminal. Thanks. Mario --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] licensed links
helps me, Marlon, as I'm now looking to provide a licensed link of 25Mbps or more to a regional TV network. Thanks. Mario Marlon K. Schafer wrote: www.microwavenetworks.com Call the main office. Talk to Brad Ingram ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tell him his number came from Charlie Curothers (sp?) Their fastest system will do 155 megs but you can hook more than one into the same antenna via taps in the wave guide. Run each of those systems via a failover router type system and off you go, high speed, fully redundant etc. Hope that helps, marlon - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] high bandwidth long links 300-600Mbps On Apr 28, 2005, at 4:46 PM, G.Villarini wrote: What kind of bandwith? Gige? Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] high bandwidth long links On Apr 28, 2005, at 4:41 PM, Charles Wu wrote: True; I'm making the assumption that you're in the business of providing connectivity - and that wireless (licensed or license-exempt) is just another tool in the box. That said, if you're irrational enough to stick with wireless, you can always follow Ken D's suggestion, and string a LONG LINE of 500' 60 GHz GigE links... Why do I have to be irrational? Show me the cost benefit analysis of trenching fiber vs. using wireless and we will see who is rational. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 5Mbps+ 900Mhz radios
Has anyone else gotten this link? http://www.wirelessinteractive.com/pdf/radios/Orion900_specs.pdf The downside is of course the large amount of spectrum needed to achieve higher throughputs. However, it seems attractive if you're in an area that is interference free. Anyone used Wireless Interactive equipment? Comments? Thanks. Mario --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPS DO have to file the 477
so what is the link to the form? I've seen links to instructions, and descriptions in the fcc website. Maybe my browser is hiding the actual form. thanks. Mario Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Thanks Kris! For those that don't know him, Kris is a telecom attorney who's been a HUGE friend to the WISP industry. http://www.lokt.net/ Laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Lists for LoKT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:26 AM Subject: RE: FCC Digest, Vol 12, Issue 8 Yes, WISPs must fill out Form 477. Here is the link to the instructions for the form: http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477instr.pdf In that form, the relevant part is below. And as an aside, sheesh, everybody should try to be a little nicer to each other. And that's coming from a lawyer even... . Facilities-based Providers of Broadband Connections to End User Locations: Entities that are facilities-based providers of broadband connections - which, for purposes of this information collection, are wired lines or wireless channels that enable the end user to receive information from and/or send information to the Internet at information transfer rates exceeding 200 kbps in at least one direction - must complete and file the applicable portions of this form for each state in which the entity provides one or more such connections to end user locations. For the purposes of Form 477, an entity is a facilities-based provider of broadband connections to end user locations if it owns the portion of the physical facility that terminates at the end user location, if it obtains unbundled network elements (UNEs), special access lines, or other leased facilities that terminate at the end user location and provisions/equips them as broadband, or if it provisions/equips a broadband wireless channel to the end user location over licensed or unlicensed spectrum. Such entities include incumbent and competitive local exchange carriers (LECs), cable system operators, fixed wireless service providers (including wireless ISPs), terrestrial and satellite mobile wireless service providers, MMDS providers, electric utilities, municipalities, and other entities. (Such entities do not include equipment suppliers unless the equipment supplier uses the equipment to provision a broadband connection that it offers to the public for sale. Such entities also do not include providers of fixed wireless services (e.g., Wi-Fi and other wireless ethernet,or wireless local area network, applications) that only enable local distribution and sharing of a premises broadband facility.) For such entities, the applicable portions of the form are: 1) the Cover Page; 2) Part I; 3) Part IV (if necessary); and the relevant portion(s) of Part V. Kris __ Kristopher E. Twomey Telecom/Internet Law and Regulatory Consulting 510 903-1304 www.lokt.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FCC Digest, Vol 12, Issue 8 Send FCC mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/fcc or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of FCC digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st (Marlon K. Schafer) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:24:50 -0800 From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA FCC] Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], FCC Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED], isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original It was 400 wisps last I heard. You HAVE to fill it out. Doesn't do anything for you to not fill it out anyway. On this note. I spent quite a bit of time on the phone with the 477 folks today (we're working with them on a solution for those that don't have excel). It turns out it's not unusual for third parties to file for you. You just have to sign a form saying that the info from the other party is accurate. Many small telcos have consultants or lawyers do it for them. Having said that, we'll send them in for anyone that
[WISPA] commscope 3227 coax
has anyone used Comm-scope Cable 3227 LMR400-type coax? it is reliable? Thanks. Mario Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Judge Judy Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Terms and Contracts Jory, To me, it depends on a few things... 1. Do you have a written contract that has a term commitment and the cancellation fees clearly stated? 2. If you do, is it amount worth pursuing for collections based on the risk, money and time you will spend? 3. If you do pursue, and win, is the customer capable of paying the judgment? I have been successful in enforcing a number of my contracts through small claims court. - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jory Privett Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Terms and Contracts I was just wondering how a small WISP goes about enforcing a contract? If someone cancels early what actions do I have available to enforce their contract? Any Ideas or suggestions? Jory Privett WCCS --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by Webjogger's AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st
If I understand correctly, any WISP with less than 250 customers in a given state does not need to file. The reporting threshold for broadband reporting is facilities-based firms that provide at least 250 one-way or two-way broadband (in excess of 200 kilobits per second) service lines or wireless channels in a given state, or have at least 250 one-way or two-way broadband customers in a given state. Correct? If so, I don't understand the sense of setting up a threshold like this one. Mario Bob Moldashel wrote: On all due respectIt didn't answer the question.. -B- Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, For those that think it's no big deal to not fill this out. Please read the note below from Ellen Burton with the FCC. She's in charge of this form. Guys, they are making this as easy as they can for us. I think we have nothing to gain and much to loose by being a PITA. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services 42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Ellen Burton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Marlon K. Schafer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st See #20 in the set of Form 477 FAQs that's available at http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.html: 20. Are there penalties for not filing Form 477? Entities that are required to file Form 477 but fail to do so may be subject to the enforcement provisions of the Communications Act and any other applicable law. In particular, the Commission has authority pursuant to sections 502 and 503 of the Communications Act to enforce compliance by fine or forfeiture. -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:30 PM To: Ellen Burton Subject: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st Hiya Ellen, Remember when I asked what the penalty is for not filing the 477? Got an answer for me yet? thanks! marlon - Original Message - From: "Bob Moldashel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org; "Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st OK...OK. I agree that all should probably file. I have several partners so I am not the only one to decide so I will leave it at that as it pertains to my WISP entity. BUT...What is the penalty for not filing Does anyone know??? Can we get an official statement for this situation? Are there fines? Penalty's?? Do you get a nasty gram?? Do they not send me a xmas card next year?? What??? It may help bring more compliance or it may result in less filings. Either way I think the membership should know. Marlon...How about asking some of your contacts. -B- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st
hmm, seems like I was reding the old form from Year 2,000. Mario Pommier wrote: If I understand correctly, any WISP with less than 250 customers in a given state does not need to file. The reporting threshold for broadband reporting is facilities-based firms that provide at least 250 one-way or two-way broadband (in excess of 200 kilobits per second) service lines or wireless channels in a given state, or have at least 250 one-way or two-way broadband customers in a given state. Correct? If so, I don't understand the sense of setting up a threshold like this one. Mario Bob Moldashel wrote: On all due respectIt didn't answer the question.. -B- Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, For those that think it's no big deal to not fill this out. Please read the note below from Ellen Burton with the FCC. She's in charge of this form. Guys, they are making this as easy as they can for us. I think we have nothing to gain and much to loose by being a PITA. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services 42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Ellen Burton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Marlon K. Schafer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st See #20 in the set of Form 477 FAQs that's available at http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.html: 20. Are there penalties for not filing Form 477? Entities that are required to file Form 477 but fail to do so may be subject to the enforcement provisions of the Communications Act and any other applicable law. In particular, the Commission has authority pursuant to sections 502 and 503 of the Communications Act to enforce compliance by fine or forfeiture. -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:30 PM To: Ellen Burton Subject: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st Hiya Ellen, Remember when I asked what the penalty is for not filing the 477? Got an answer for me yet? thanks! marlon - Original Message - From: "Bob Moldashel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org; "Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st OK...OK. I agree that all should probably file. I have several partners so I am not the only one to decide so I will leave it at that as it pertains to my WISP entity. BUT...What is the penalty for not filing Does anyone know??? Can we get an official statement for this situation? Are there fines? Penalty's?? Do you get a nasty gram?? Do they not send me a xmas card next year?? What??? It may help bring more compliance or it may result in less filings. Either way I think the membership should know. Marlon...How about asking some of your contacts. -B- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment
Lonnie, when will your radios support mesh, as described in your previous post? M Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: I guess you'll have to learn more about Mesh because if you did you would not say that a dedicated backhaul and microcell approach gives the same functionality. Sure a dedicated backhaul and microcell are fine because that is what people have been building since forever. Mesh handles routing issues and requires routed networks. Is that the problem you see? Lonnie On 2/23/06, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First off, don't. Mesh is all the rage today. Just like hotspots were a couple of years ago. Mesh and muni are often rolled out in the same sentence. Show me ONE that's working correctly past the 6 to 12 month stage.. Having said that, you can still give them the same functionality. Use a dedicated backhaul system. Trango, Airaya, Canopy, Alvarion, pick your high end ptmp system. Use that to feed micro cell wifi deployments that are down at street level. Same functionality, greater flexibility, MUCH better scalability and, I believe, much better stability. That help? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: ISPlists To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com ; 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment Does anyone have a good recommendation on some Mesh equipment. I have a small town that wants to provide Internet access to the entire town and I'm thinking of using mesh technology. Any ideas would be great. Thanks, Steve -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment
good deal! do you have info on the tech specs of the system in the website? thanks. Mario Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: We released the code yesterday as part of our v3 for the WAR boards. The beta part is mostly for the Atheros driver which continues to get tweaks and add-ons. We have been testing and playing with mesh since Fall 2005. We felt it was ready for prime time. Lonnie On 2/23/06, Mario Pommier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lonnie, when will your radios support mesh, as described in your previous post? M Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: I guess you'll have to learn more about Mesh because if you did you would not say that a dedicated backhaul and microcell approach gives the same functionality. Sure a dedicated backhaul and microcell are fine because that is what people have been building since forever. Mesh handles routing issues and requires routed networks. Is that the problem you see? Lonnie On 2/23/06, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First off, don't. Mesh is all the rage today. Just like hotspots were a couple of years ago. Mesh and muni are often rolled out in the same sentence. Show me ONE that's working correctly past the 6 to 12 month stage.. Having said that, you can still give them the same functionality. Use a dedicated backhaul system. Trango, Airaya, Canopy, Alvarion, pick your high end ptmp system. Use that to feed micro cell wifi deployments that are down at street level. Same functionality, greater flexibility, MUCH better scalability and, I believe, much better stability. That help? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services 42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: ISPlists To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com ; 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment Does anyone have a good recommendation on some Mesh equipment. I have a small town that wants to provide Internet access to the entire town and I'm thinking of using mesh technology. Any ideas would be great. Thanks, Steve -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] BPSK QAM16 DSSS interference
what brand? dustin jurman wrote: Thank you Charles, We use radio's that use 256 dots of modulation. Dustin Jurman President Rapid Systems Corporation 1211 N. Westshore Blvd Tampa, FL 33607 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 9:29 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] BPSK QAM16 DSSS interference As you start to walk up the modulation line you definitely need more C/I, but you also start to loose the ability to use full power out of the radio. A small bit of trivial regarding this issue With higher order modulation schemes, the EVM (Error Vector Magnitude) can be so high that even on a perfect link (no noise) the receive chip is incable of decoding the signal properly into the correct 64 "dots" of the QAM modulation plot. This QAM constellation "interference" can be represented by a grid of 8x8 dots that are being blurred by the transmitter not handling the signals with enough linearity (e.g., the radio power amp is turned to high). When too much blur occurs, the adjacent dots touch each other and the receiver will not be able to decipher the signal (it's blurred) -Charles --- WiNOG Austin, TX March 13-15, 2006 http://www.winog.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower Height Regulations
That's what I had been told. And even if there is an airport, I had heard that if your tower is not along the line the airplanes use to land/take off, you're ok. there are two local airports within 10 miles of my tower and the town didn't say anything, and the faa friend of the engineer we work with said we'd be ok. Mario Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Sounds like I'll be fine cause there isn't an airport close to here. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Height Regulations There are FAA guidelines about structures under 200 feet near airports but I have not searched for those guidelines. If you Google it and find anything of interest please feel free to pass along to the rest of us here. I remember something about allowing so many feet above AGL (Average Ground Level) for every mile from a runway. Scriv - Original Message - *From:* JNA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:57 AM *Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Tower Height Regulations Did anyone ever respond on this? I am interested as well. Thanks, John *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser *Sent:* Tuesday, January 03, 2006 2:44 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* [WISPA] Tower Height Regulations Beside's local regulations does the FAA/FCC have requirements on the distance your tower is from the roads if it falls. I had someone tell me today that a couple years ago they made a law that if you had a 100' tower it needed to be 150' away from the road. And they said that older towers would be grandfathered in. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] skypilot?
Gentlemen, is anyone using this product? looks good on paper, doesn't it? Mario --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by Webjogger's AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] remote power control
Hi, Since I've heard some not-so-good experiences with the APC MasterSwtich, I went looking on the web. Ebay led me to this product, has anyone used this power control device? Any feedback on it? http://www.digital-loggers.com/EPC.html Thanks. Mario --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by Webjogger's AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] canopy interference
Does someone know what these claims mean? Saw them in a Canopy presentation: Canopy was optimized to ignore external interference. Every radio is factory tested to meet throughput at 3db C/I (channel interference?) Canopy nominal C/I performance is ~2 dB. Competitions C/I requirements are 8db 25 db. Thanks. Mario -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
