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Open Access here does NOT mean wholesaling the network.

Open Access here means Carterphone. IOW, the unlocking of the iPhone.

- Peter


David Hughes wrote:

FCC Majority Backs Open-Access Plan for Airwaves

By Kim Hart
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, July 25, 2007; D02

A majority of the members of the Federal Communications Commission told a
House panel yesterday that they support an open-access requirement for the
coming radio spectrum auction that would give consumers more choices for
cellphone devices and services.

The open-access proposal, first outlined about two weeks ago by FCC Chairman
Kevin J. Martin, has become central to the debate over how the airwaves will
be used when television broadcasters give them up in 2009. The FCC plans to
auction these airwaves to companies in January. The measure would require
the highest bidder to use a third of the airwaves to build a network that is
available to all wireless devices and services.

The hearing yesterday before the House subcommittee on telecommunications
and the Internet was the first time the commissioners publicly shared their
views about the rules for the auction and was probably the last chance for
Congress to weigh in before commissioners vote on the rules, perhaps as
early as next week. Democratic Commissioners Jonathan S. Adelstein and
Michael J. Copps said they supported the open-access plan, while Republican
Commissioners Deborah Taylor Tate and Robert M. McDowell said they were
undecided.

The Martin proposal was unpopular among Republican subcommittee members, who
say the auction should be free of conditions -- in part because rules could
reduce the revenue it generates, which is expected to be about $15 billion.
About $10 billion of that has been allocated for federal use. Democrats on
the panel supported the provision on the grounds that it would give
consumers more choices than wireless providers like ATamp;T and Verizon
Wireless now provide.

Google, which has expressed interest in bidding, has said the open-access
requirement is not enough to allow a new entrant into the wireless market.
On Friday, the company said it would spend at least $4.6 billion to bid on
the spectrum if the FCC also mandated that the winner lease some of the
airwaves to other companies offering broadband services that do not restrict
devices or services. Martin has resisted what is being called the
wholesale measure, saying it would discourage the winner from investing in
the network.

Excluding ATT, the wireless industry opposes any restrictions on how the
spectrum will be used. Last week, ATT said that it supported Martin's
proposal but would not make a decision about whether to bid until the FCC's
rules were finalized.

The proposal is not designed to facilitate the entry of any one company,
Martin said. While there isn't a company that supports my proposal, I think
consumers will.

McDowell said he was leaning against Martin's proposal for open access
because it could raise prices for consumers. Although McDowell said he would
like to see the wireless industry become less restrictive in the devices and
services it offers consumers, he questions whether that should happen
through natural evolution or government mandate.

Several lawmakers expressed concern that the open-access rule would shut
small and rural companies out of the auction. If a condition is placed on
the largest piece of the spectrum, well-established carriers such as
ATamp;T and Verizon may opt to bid on smaller licenses eyed by rural
carriers, Rep. J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) said.

Martin said he favored breaking up the spectrum into licenses of various
sizes to let a diverse mix of companies participate in the auction.


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Re: [WISPA] Marina Cams


Smith, Rick wrote:

Anyone done cameras at a marina where they've sold access to the slip
owners ?

How do ya handle multiple people wanting to see the same camera ?


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Network DVR allows multiple access.
Lots of camera manufacturers out there.
Works well - at least for the one client that is doing it.
Look at ipvisionsoftware.com

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Scottie Arnett wrote:

I am thinking out loud and not actually thinking this through, but here is
my idea. Do as they started with Computer Inquires...All ILEC's and Cable
Co's should not be allowed in the ISP business. They can start their own ISP
as a separate entity, but the parent ILEC/CC will have to sell to all ISP's,
including their own at a wholesale rate for use of their transport. There
should be no cross subsidization from one to the other. 
That was how the original TA96 was written. Separate entity without 
cross-subsidization.

However, the FCC did not actually enforce that piece.
No bundling was supposed to occur (DSL, LD nor Local) until 3 years 
after the RBOC's received 272 relief (were allowed to sell LD again). 
During those 3 years prior to sunset, the FCC was suppose to monitor to 
insure that the networks were open to competition, that there was no 
cross-sub, etc. Never happened. The FCC did not in any way enforce this 
piece of the law. (Yeah, this was law, no some FCC guideline).

I live in an area full of Cooperatives. Cooperatives do not have to follow
many of the Tele Act of 1996 rules (rural exemptions). I live in TN where, I
actually lost count, but there are approximately 20 +/- telephone
cooperatives. So I do not and have not got to do many of the things you guys
have got to do. Now that talk all this BS about bridging the digital divide,
but they still let these cooperatives get away with monopolies and not
having to follow half the rules that the rest of the US ILEC's have to
follow. 
TA96 was mainly about RBOC's not ILEC's. Even Sprint United (now calling 
itself Embarq) was not regulated by much of the TA96.  There was a 
nother section of TA96 about cable. And a general section about ILEC's.


Rural ILEC's (RLEC's) get a special deal because of their size / status. 
They also get lost of USF funding.

As long as this goes on, rural America may see 20 Meg speeds by the
end of the next century. We never had ISDN here until around 2001 and DSL
around 2003 and of course it was done by the co-op telcos that were given
almost every penny to do it by the USDA.

Ah, I am through with my rant. I could complain and gripe all day. I spend a
lot of time on http://www.cybertelecom.org/ and teletruth.org that goes much
deeper into the points I stated above.
No wonder you are ranting - you hang out with two of the biggest ranting 
and raving guys in telecom - Bruce and Bob.
I have nothing against either one, but you can only spend so much time, 
energy and effort screaming before you have to get an army and go to 
battle... or go do something.


- Peter


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Re: [WISPA] Broadband Baloney? An FCC Commissioner's take onBroadband..

, WilTel, GX and more - couldn't 
execute a plan to pay back the debt.
There are a few that have built networks - NEON, Norlight, Fiberlight, 
Coretel, CityNet - that are doing fine, because they knew exactly what 
their market was - and executed well on a good strategy.


Most CLEC's and ISP's spend too much time selling to everyone just to 
book revenue and add a sub - whether it is a good customer for you or not.


Yipes and Cogent built network. Clearwire too. I won't go into the BK 
history of the 2 fiber guys, but if Sprint didn't jump in on Clearwire, 
what would they have done in 2 years?


Put the efforts on getting more people involved in actually building 
out networks and increasing REAL competition (yes, wireless does fit 
in there to some degree). 
The FCC can't even force the cellco's to build out all of the spectrum 
they have hoarding since 1996. Nor has Congress, the FCC or any PUC been 
able to force the ILEC's to actually live up to its promises for rate 
increase, 272 relief, mergers, or build-out. So Clint please explain to 
me HOW DO YOU FORCE A NETWORK BUILD OUT?


Oh, and where is that investment money coming from? Because once the 
CLEC's start hitting BK, investment dollars will dry up. In fact, if you 
watch VZ and T, you will see that their access to cheap debt for their 
build outs has ended as well. And the RBOC's have to borrow more to 
build out 3G / 4G. More debt heaped on top of their billions in debt.


BTW, you keep saying DOCSIS 3. Big deal. Collectively the MSO's have 
$100B in debt from building out to DOCSIS 2. Where do you think that 
investment money will come from for D3? That's like another $75B. And 
The Street doesn't even value cableco stock as much as it values RBOC stock.



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Kentnis Technologies


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Re: [WISPA] Broadband Baloney? An FCC Commissioner's take onBroadband..

 viable return on the investment and very 
little competition (you have _at most_ 2-3 providers who have physical 
connections to a given address).

It is WAY TOO EXPENSIVE to run last mile to consumers.
Business parks, downtown areas, greenfield development, mixed use - sure.
Older sections of town - no.

And again THERE ISNT MUCH MONEY available to do these build outs.


Ideally,
1. Get accurate data about who actually has access to Internet access!
2. Eliminate ALL vertical monopolies (ie you cannot sell more than one 
of three out of physical, network, and application layers except for 
rural markets).  At some point, this means that for the physical 
network providers to grow, they have to expand infrastructure (among 
lots of other good things).  It may make sense for the physical layer 
to be actually muni-owned in many areas.
3. Heavily subsidize community-based efforts in rural areas.  In the 
end, if the people want to get on the 'net, they should be a driving 
force in the ultra-rural market. 
4. Place a bounty on each rural subscriber added (or some similar 
metric).  In other words, subsidize ex-post-facto instead of on a 
vague promise of future network buildouts...
5. Use the data from one and go down by population.  In other words 
concentrate on the rural market before getting to the ultra-rural 
market. 
Now, #2 won't ever happen.

Okay. Great plan it will not fly. (And you made fun of CLEC's!)


How do you deal with ILECs who don't follow the regulations?  That's a 
tough one, since most of the legal mechanisms (fines and so forth) 
aren't really effective because they 1. just become a cost of doing 
business and 2. are so weighted down in court battles as to be, at 
best, too little, too late.  I don't really have the answer to that 
question.


I think that the government has to be willing to use political 
leverage a lot more.  While I tend to agree with a lot of the major 
FCC rulings over the past few years, they were given away too 
lightly.  Just because it is the right decision doesn't mean that it 
can't have strings attached.  In other words, the government has to 
actually grow a backbone...  Want DSL line sharing requirements 
dropped?  We'll talk AFTER we have X% of rural buildout. 
The animals are already outside the barn, so closing that door now isn't 
going to help.

Again, you have to deal with what you have and what's available.

I talk to CLEC's almost daily. Many smaller ones are beat up. Every plan 
they have tried since 2001 has been hurdled or cut off. And you are 
giving these What If's in a plan. It'd be nice, but no one has that data 
(or is going to release it).
The gov't isn't subsidizing rural - you have to go get a USDA loan for 
that - and the loan is for assets only - not labor, etc. So you have to 
have a great plan, efficient org, capital, get the loan, and execute on 
the build and the sales at the same time. Something most telecom people 
are not familiar with.
 
I don't really find the debt that big of a deal...a couple of 
thousands of dollars of debt per customer financing buildout when the 
ARPU can be $10,000-$20,000 over 10 years for a residential subscriber 
is a pretty good deal.

Where does that investment money come from?

In my experience with CLEC's and MSO's,  it just is not available. And 
you can't bank on 10 years. Try more like a 5 year plan of return.
The network buildouts on the cable side are _much_ cheaper than on the 
telco side--the upgrade to DOCSIS 3 is not much different, cost wise, 
than the upgrade to ADSLv2.  However, cable doesn't have to do fiber 
upgrades (coax is much better than fiber--HFC plants can push 50Gb/s 
worth of data) and cable doesn't have the very expensive capital costs 
of video network buildouts...  DOCSIS 3 will come down fairly quickly 
simply because it isn't all that expensive (relatively speaking) and 
doesn't require that big of an overhaul...
Yeah, really what's a couple of billion when you have $100B in debt. 
Nothing really.


And DOCSIS 3.0 gear won't be available before 2009.  Even 700 and AWS 
gear probably won't be available before then.


BTW, everyone - cable, telco, ISP - is hoping the US will subsidize this 
build. If you look carefully at the value of the dollar and our 
trillions in debt, I don't know where that money is going to come from.


The reality isn't pretty. It means that builds will come as demand 
comes. And it will slow.


VZ is going to spend :upward of $18 billion on its FiOS fiber-optic 
network, which will cover just 14% of the United States.  So where 
would a CLEC that wants mucho millions to cover 1% of an area get the 
$1B.  To build out 400 feet of existing fiber for BellSouth is $7000. 
For L3 to build out one block is $25,000. So where is the ROI on that?




-Clint Ricker
Kentnis Technologies

- Peter

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Clint,

People on this list can't even come up with a viable business plan for 
700 MHz spectrum.

Paying for the spectrum.
Buying and installing the AP's.
Buying and installing the CPE at probably upwards of $1000 in the beginning.
Sell, invoice and collect for internet access.
Add value added services for stickiness and to increase ARPU.

The first 3 pieces overwhelm cashflow and available monies.

So overbuild last mile  Don't you think if it could have been done, 
some of these jockeys who like to spend investors billions would have 
tried it?


Cogent, Yipes, expedient, Winstar, and others tried it in the business 
space, in metro areas, selling what the ILEC's didn't - and combined 
lost a billion.  So tell me again that plan for building a new network 
and being innovative?


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Re: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion


Michael Erskine wrote:
The ILECs have been building the POTS network since 1900.  They are 
not incompetent and they understand how to buy power.


Actually, maybe not incompetent but entirely without vision and with an 
eye only to quarterly numbers.


Your best recipe for retaining customers - DSL, wireless or otherwise - 
is to add sticky apps. You have all heard the value add speech before - 
but many of you still do not apply it.


How did AOL keep so many customers? They didn't know how to move their 
address book. Take that as a hint, especially when many of your clients 
use webmail.


There are many companies that will help you sell apps - ZOHO, 
AppExhange, SalesForce.net, Google Apps, Intermedia.Net, SparkGroup, 
Zimbra, OX, esterolos, scalix, and craig's list.


Many of you are residential based -- you need to build a portal and 
build community. If they are coming to your portal for video, 
classifieds, local news, photos, blogging, and messaging -- they likely 
won't leave on price.



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Re: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion


Smith, Rick wrote:

I can tell you for a fact that Embarq and Verizon have 700 Mhz
and FTTP on their radar BIG time.

It's that whole battle vs. war thing... They're willing to
get their heads handed to them 9 times because that 10th is
their nuke...

OK I've gotta throw away this devil's advocate hat...
EMBARQ? Hesse said that he was betting on the DSL game. Where does 
Embarq do FTTx?


VZ and ATT are spending the money for FTTx - but not in rural America. 
(Maybe that's where 700 comes in, but I think the 700 is going to be 
used for muni wi-fi and to enhance their cellular data services).


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Re: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion


W.D.McKinney wrote:

Yes indeed, big cash boys will be the driver in 700MHz side, sure wish it was 
designated for the WISP folks directly so that we could see some real 
innovation.

If Google wins, the spectrum will be tied up for a long time with little on no 
use right away.

Cheers,
-Dee




Alaska Wireless Systems
You mean like all that deployed 2.x GHz spectrum that Sprint, MCI, ATT 
and BellSouth purchased WAY back when??? That they are only deploying 
now because it was a merger condition.


Come on! If the auction is the same as always the Cellco's will buy it 
and do what they do - sit on it so that no one else can get in the ball 
game.


They complain that no one builds facilities but then the FCC changes the 
rules on exclusive rights. Go figure.


This is just another political positioning play.

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Re: [WISPA] Broadband Baloney? An FCC Commissioner's take onBroadband..


Mike Hammett wrote:
3 mbit is not fast.  The US IS behind other countries, there's no 
point in whining about it.  Yes, there are very substantial reasons 
why our numbers don't look as good as theirs, but there's no need to 
skew the system to make us look better...  just solve the problem.




Fixed wireless is broadband.  WIFI hotspots, cell phones, etc. are not 
broadband (maybe the cell broadband cards).  The reason our numbers 
are climbing is because this has been a problem for some time and 
we're working on fixing it.  It takes a lot to change things like that 
for the third most populous country in the world.




Perhaps it should be measured per household and not per capita, I dunno.



The reason why there's less competition elsewhere is because what is 
present is doing a good enough job!  Their telcos have delivered 15 
meg DSL for years, while ours don't yet offer it.  That's why cable is 
taking on so well here.  It surely isn't because anything connected to 
Comcast has a good price point (DSL and satellite TV are both better 
values).




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
If they change the definition to 1MB, EVDO won't count and neither will 
IDSL and DSL Lite. The numbers of BB users in the stats will drop - the 
telcos will look like they have very few BB subs since about 10-20% buy 
Lite (depending who you believe). So the FCC will never voluntarily 
change the definition.


BTW, in countries with deep BB penetration, the regulators are TOUGH - 
as in the FCC Chairman does not have Ivan and Ed's hands up his butt so 
he can talk like Charlie McCarthy.


But ALL of that is beside the point. End of the day, YOU guys have to 
find, acquire and retain profitable customers. No matter what the 
regulatory or competitive environment looks like.


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Re: [WISPA] Broadband Baloney full text (rant)


Mike Hammett wrote:
Broadband Baloney (Opinion) FCC Commissioner Robert McDowell 
  


According to several recent surveys, the average percentage of U.S. households taking broadband is about 42%; the EU average is 23%. 


And wait until 2009, when our economy comes to a screeching halt. And the EU 
economy will look strong. There are cultural difference why the EU is lower, 
but their cellular usage is much greater.



In the next few years, we will witness a tremendous explosion of 
entrepreneurial brilliance in the broadband market, if the government doesn't 
micromanage.

That explosion will not be here. Likely in all the far flung places that the Fortune 500 is moving HQ's to like India and Dubai. 


But that's just me being grumpy at the whole deal as a former Comptel guys goes 
to the dark side.

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[WISPA] Martin's 700 proposal


from his congressional visit:

I have recently proposed rules for the 700 MHz auction that I
believe will facilitate a national wireless broadband service. A
coalition of companies that support a national wireless broadband
alternative, Intel, Skype, Yahoo, Google, DIRECTV, and
EchoStar, urged the Commission to structure the auction in such a
manner that it would maximize the opportunity for a national
wireless broadband service to emerge. They urged the
Commission to make available at least one 11MHz paired block,
offered over large geographic areas, with combinatorial bidding so
that a national service could be established. I put forward a
proposal that would meet these requirements.
My proposal would provide significant opportunities for small and
rural carriers to obtain spectrum at auction as well. The proposed
band plan would provide for a variety of geographic license areas
and spectrum block sizes. I am also proposing stringent build-out
requirements – the strictest build-out the Commission has ever
proposed – to help ensure that the rural and underserved areas of
the country will benefit from the provision of new services that this
spectrum will facilitate. These build-out requirements include
interim benchmarks and tough penalties. We also would permit
higher power limits in rural areas, which will reduce the number of
towers necessary to serve consumers and lower the cost of buildout.
Meeting the needs of public safety is critically important. During a
crisis, public safety officials need to be able to communicate with
one another. We are all aware of problems that have been created
by the lack of interoperability for public safety during recent crises
like 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina. To that end, my proposal for the
upcoming auction would help create a truly national interoperable
broadband network for public safety agencies to use during times
of emergency. I believe this proposal could offer many public
safety benefits and is consistent with public safety’s views on
achieving an interoperable broadband network.
Many national and local public safety organizations have
expressed support for a public-private partnership approach in
which a national commercial licensee would work together with a
national public safety licensee to build such a shared network. We
must efficiently and effectively manage the 700 MHz spectrum
allocated to both commercial users and public safety by Congress.
My proposal will help the Commission ensure that public safety
keeps pace with the advances in communications and gives first
responders the broadband communications capabilities they need
to protect safety of life and property of the American public.
Finally, I have also proposed that the license winner for about onethird
of the spectrum be required to provide a platform that is more
open to devices and applications. This auction provides an
opportunity to have a significant effect on the next phase of
wireless broadband innovation. A network more open to devices
and applications can help ensure that the fruits of innovation on the
edges of the network swiftly pass into the hands of consumers.
Consumers would be able to use the wireless device of their choice
and download whatever software they want.

The upcoming auction provides a rare chance to promote a more
open platform without disrupting existing networks or business
plans. I have not, however, proposed to apply these same
principles to the entire 700 MHz band or to other existing
networks. Nor have I proposed to apply network neutrality
obligations or mandatory wholesale requirements for this block or
any other block.
In addition, the Commission recognizes that spectrum is a unique
public asset, and that we must obtain a fair return on this asset for
the American people. To ensure that a fair price is paid, I have
proposed a reserve price for this block of spectrum, as well as an
overall reserve price for the entire auction. If the reserve price is
not met, the spectrum would be re-auctioned without the
requirement for open devices and applications. These reserve
prices, which are based on the winning bids for spectrum in our
recent AWS-1 auction, will safeguard the value of the spectrum.

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Clint Ricker wrote:
I'll duck after this post, but I by and large tend to agree with the 
basis of the article. 

Scottie, exactly what regulation would you recommend? 
STRUCTURAL SEPARATION like BT is experiencing in the UK, which would 
never happen here.


What has regulation solved in the past 11 years?  By and large, I've 
not seen a single bit of FCC regulation that has had a net positive 
impact for getting access to the consumer, especially post 2000 (it 
was probably a good force behind making dialup Internet access widely 
available and affordable).
It was not FCC regulation; it was the TA96 that was tattered and torn by 
lobbying and litigating.

The FCC SHOULD have advanced its policy and then set to forcing it.
Instead it went to bed with 2 of the industries it is supposed to 
regulate (media  telco).


The FCC could easily have forced CLEC's to build out at the same time it 
forced the ILEC's to unbundle.


Let me extrapolate this for you:

In the NFL cities you would have endless construction as fiber is laid 
to all the MTU's.

But in all other markets, not so much competition.
And then you would have VZ selling off its rural ... oh, wait, they do 
that now because they don't want to invest the money.
They make a good rate of return (as attested to by their increasing 
profits -- not revenues). They get USF and other funding to provide 
service in rural areas, but do not want to live up to the promises that 
they made back in 1997-1999.


Do you think I care about the 15th or 21st or whatever study number? No.

All I care about is the divide between us and and the rest of the world.
Whether you admit it or not, economically broadband is a utility. It is 
the utility for home-based workers, entrepreneurs, the Creative Class, 
and innovation. As more and more people get PC access and get online, 
more and more ideas, projects, and innovation happens. I want that to 
happen in the US. Not in India. Not in China or Korea, but here in America.


We have a shortage of doctors in America. A shortage of teachers.
Some of this can be solved via broadband like tele-medicine and distance 
learning.


Forced wholesale access of the physical layer / network layer does 
absolutely nothing to increase availability and, in fact, actually 
hurts availabilty.
You are incorrect there. The plant company would need to keep building 
out to increase revenue.

The Application side would want that as well.

  The ISP / CLEC that is basically reselling ILEC copper is not 
connecting anyone who wouldn't / couldn't have been connected via the 
ILEC.  However, because the ILEC is less profitable due to forced 
reselling, then they can't buildout as much infrastructure 
(theoretically).
Sure it is. CLEC's and ISP's are always stealing clients from each other 
and ILEC's. Sometimes they steal them from cable. But more than just the 
red ocean is the blue ocean when a new idea like Metro E over copper or 
VDSL or HPNA or BPL comes along and stretches the use of the copper and 
brings consumers new apps and new access. (Covad is rolling out 15MB DSL 
- are any ILECs? NO).


The fact of the matter is that the US is doing pretty damn well at 
broadband deployment, and, corruption aside, most of the current 
administration's policies have been fairly benificial towards making 
broadband more widely available (with some very major exceptions).  
I actually don't think that more DSLAM's are being deployed. I see how 
often a business comes up as Unqualified, even when DSL is available in 
that area. That's due to CAPEX being spent to over-build DSL penetrated 
areas with fiber.


That's not a helpful strategy.

Qwest is no longer the ILEC in Omaha. That's the first MSA. VZ has asked 
for forbearance in 6 MSA's, due in 80 days.


In 80 days, you won't be able to buy access from VZ unless they want to 
sell it to you. Why? The stats say cable has beat them out. And I think 
it is almost on purpose, so the ILEC can get out from under regulation 
and do what it wants.


Do you think that the CLECs are actually hurting the ILECs? Or the ISP's?

ISP's have less than 1% of the DSL in the US.  FISPA members at one time 
had 3% of the BellSouth market in 2001.
CLEC's in their hey day had a whopping 15% of the market (2001 I 
think).  Not any more.


The largest CLEC has less than 100,000 customers. And even with the 
Super CLEC's - all 3 of them - approaching $1B in revenue, their debt is 
3/4 of that number and they pay more than 50% of revenue to the ILEC. 
How does that hurt the ILEC? They make money from CLEC's. They don't 
make a dime from cable.



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Re: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion

2007-07-23 Thread Peter R.

Do you guys really think that Google wants to build out a nationwide 
wireless network?

It's CORE business is search. It needs to focus on that.
It's other core is advertising. It has DoubleClick now too (probably).
You think it can spend not the meoney but the resources and focus on 
wireless?


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Re: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion

2007-07-22 Thread Peter R.


Remember when Google was buying up dark fiber?
It scared everyone.

Now Google is going to bid on spectrum IF a bunch of conditions are met.
Those conditions will NOT be met. (Have you forgotten who chairs the FCC?)
So it is probably just a ploy.

And if they DO win some spectrum, the rules will be that it has to be 
Wholesale - so anyone can sell on it.


Google will be on top until they screw up. Like Yahoo. Like AltaVista. 
Like Excite. Like Lycos. Like Ask.


They make money because they are the most used search engine. Not the 
best. The most used. So that is where advertising dollars go. It can 
change. It often does.


BTW, Google will peer with you for free. SO if 44% of your bandwidth is 
for Google, they just saved you on IP bamdwidth costs. Anyone else doing 
that?


I can't believe I am agreeing with Mike E. but I don't see them as any 
more evil than any other company.
And having watched them try to do Muni Wi-Fi in their town. Going 
Nationwide? Not very likely.


Travis are you the one who created his own Google Adwords home page to 
collect a check from Google for doing searches?


I know what  MAAWG  is (http://www.maawg.org - do they actually DO 
anything?) but CEAS???


- Peter @ RAD-INFO


Travis Johnson wrote:
And thus you just hit the nail on the head... and it brings us back 
full circle to the original subject of this thread...


Google is going to bid on 700mhz spectrum... billions of dollars... 
then, once they own it, they are going to start some type of wireless 
internet service using that spectrum... and then, they WILL be 
competing directly with all the ISP's. And, they will probably give 
the service away FREE, just like they do now with their WiFi service. 
Can you compete with FREE service, using 700mhz NLOS technology 
(meaning self-install, take the modem with you to work type service)?


So, now who's your friend? They have a huge recurring income from the 
search engine, so they don't have to make a dime on other services... 
gmail, Google Earth, etc. are all examples. They will just add 700mhz 
wireless to the list of free things they provide.


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Re: [WISPA] T-Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The GPS locator in the handset probably.


George Rogato wrote:
I'd like to know how it is that they can provide e911 for their voip 
offering?


Last I heard, a voip call was required to have e911. Like to know how 
they are going to pull their roaming wifi voip off without saying, 
it's cell phone service even though it's wifi voip.


Very serious issue here.

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Re: [WISPA] T-Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- 911


That was how the cell guys were going to originally offer 911.
I don't think cell has to have E-911 (enhanced).

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/apr/06/fcc_chief_wants_better_accuracy_cell_911_calls/

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George Rogato wrote:

What does that mean.

They relay GPS location to the fire department/cops?

I can see a double standard here. Anyone else?

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Re: [WISPA] Fiber Sources


It's probably tagged as to who the owner is.

But it's not like it is a direct run from A to B. There are switches, 
muxes, repeaters, routers, etc. in-between.


And if Bell Atlantic owns it, you either have to buy the service (DS3 or 
higher) from VZB or a CLEC would have to lease the fiber from VZ - which 
they do not have to do under current FCC regs.


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Smith, Rick wrote:
If my customer has fiber strands coming into his 
building  (in this case Bell Atlantic (now Verizon)),
how do I tell where it goes and what I can do 
with it ?


This customer's wanting to get connectivity to 
some kind of meet-me area where he can build up

his connectivity options.

When we looked, we saw fiber in the building, and
the rumor was that whoever had installed it first
had it running to New York City

Anyone have ideas on who / how to call and find
out this info ?

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Re: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion

More important that market cap is the debt. The telcos are laiden with 
debt and are borrowing heavy to lay out FTTx (VZ for FiOS and att for 
U-verse) and cellular builds.


Google makes them all nervous anyway. The dark fiber talk. The 
bandwidth. Now licensed bandwidth.


If there was only a dual-mode Google phone :)

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Mike Hammett wrote:
Google has a larger market capitalization than any of the telcos...  
if they want it, they'll have it.


According to finance.google.com:

GOOG:  $162.04B
VZ:  $122.75B
T:  $240.83B  (oh, okay, I forgot that ATT acquired BellSouth)
CMCSA:  $88.97B
S:  $63.6B
Q:  $17.42B
DT:  $79.5B


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[WISPA] Microsoft free wi-fi

I have just about used up my posting limits this weekend (and not much 
WISPA-ISPCON talk either).


http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2007/07/20/microsoft-will-give-you-free-wi-fi/

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Re: [WISPA] T-Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- 911


I don't know how the FCC will handle that issue.

Maybe someone should ask them for a decision.

- Peter

George Rogato wrote:

No, but voip does.

When it's not talking to a cell tower and is talking to a wifi ap, 
it's voip.


Why is it that their offering of voip does not have to live up to the 
latest e911 voip rules, but my home rolled * system does?


Can I offer roaming voip using cordless handsets and wifi access and 
not be required to supply e911?


I hate to be a complainer, but I was looking to offer voip to all my 
broadband subs, till e911 hit and put an expensive damper on it.


This is a serious issue.


Peter R. wrote:

That was how the cell guys were going to originally offer 911.
I don't think cell has to have E-911 (enhanced).

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/apr/06/fcc_chief_wants_better_accuracy_cell_911_calls/ 



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George Rogato wrote:

What does that mean.

They relay GPS location to the fire department/cops?

I can see a double standard here. Anyone else?

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Re: [WISPA] Microsoft free wi-fi

There are a couple of companies that can help you (IF you have enough 
subscribers).
Adzilla is one of them. 
Another company that deals with mobile branding and ads is Virtual IRIS.


I can help you contact either company.

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RickG wrote:

As they say, you get what you pay for. I'd be curious if there is an
inexpensive way to feed commercials on my network though?
-RickG

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I have just about used up my posting limits this weekend (and not much
WISPA-ISPCON talk either).

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Re: [WISPA] Wimax

2007-07-17 Thread Peter R.


W.D.McKinney wrote:

Good question Sam, up here it's all NextNet so it sounds to me, more journalism 
that is erroneous.

-Dee

  
What happens is that terms take on very general meanings to garner key 
word, alerts, and other RSS and subscription views.


Wireless is used even when they are discussing cellular.
WIMAX is used any time they are talking about fixed wireless.


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Re: [WISPA] Test - Please Ignore

2007-07-16 Thread Peter R.


Me either... I guess we chased away all the chatter.


Mark Nash wrote:

Haven't received for 3 days...

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[WISPA] 700 Club: Mobile WiMAX

2007-07-15 Thread Peter R.


from Telecommunications Mag (no link because registration does NOT work):

The 700 Club: Mobile WiMAX lowers its frequency sights
Based as it is on licensed spectrum, Mobile WiMAX is bittersweet. 
Vendors know operators have spectrum to use equipment they’re 
developing, but licensed spectrum closes the door on those who don’t 
have it. The U.S. Federal Communications Commission could change that 
when it auctions some of the last available 700-MHz spectrum 
broadcasters will abandon next January. Besides adding billions of 
dollars to government coffers, the auction could provide new spectrum 
for mobile WiMAX.


“I’m told by my technical teams how sweet that spectrum is in terms of 
the propagation characteristics and the opportunity to do WiMAX there,” 
says Regina Moldovan, senior manager of WiMAX marketing at Nortel. 
“There’s definitely an opportunity.”


Although WiMAX Forum mobility specifications take 700 MHz into 
consideration, certifications in that strata are not a top priority, 
says Julie Coppernoll, director of WiMAX marketing at Intel. “I think 
most people would say, ‘Let’s get WiMAX rolled out on 2.5 [GHz] first 
and then look at other spectrums and frequencies later,’” she says. 
“There’s 2.5 and 2.3 in Korea, and in Europe and other parts of the 
world they are already rolling 3.5. I’d say they have their plates full 
in the short term.”


Coppernoll speculates there may be a chance operators will be interested 
in the 700-MHz band for mobile WiMAX next year and that Intel, as well 
other silicon players, would be able to respond “fairly quickly” if that 
happened. Another uncertainty surrounding the 700-MHz frequency band is 
that no one is sure who will own the spectrum. It could be the cable 
industry, which has formed a group called SpectrumCo that has already 
purchased wireless spectrum at 1.7 GHz and 2.1 GHz. But nobody—probably 
not even the cable companies themselves—knows how that’s going to be used.


Non-carrier types, including public safety agencies in the U.S., also 
want a chunk of that 700-MHz spectrum as a good foundation on which to 
build national first responder network. However, 700 MHz comes with 
technological baggage: “We’ve done a lot of work on the 700-MHz band…and 
there are guardband issues, so how much of that spectrum is usable is 
something that you need to understand,” says Mark Slater, vice president 
of Nokia Siemens Networks. “In reality it’s a longer term play.”


The lower frequency range, however, does have its attractions. “It has 
much better performance characteristics [than 2.5 GHz],” says Arthur 
Giftakis, CTO of TowerStream, a nationwide fixed/portable WiMAX provider 
in the U.S. “At 700 you’re doing more than one wall penetration; in 
fact, you’re doing two wall penetrations in the urban areas. It also 
goes farther. We’re a big fan, and we think it’s going to help the 
mobility play.”


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[WISPA] FCC Chairman Drafts Auction Proposal

2007-07-11 Thread Peter R.

Debate Heats Over Spectrum Rules

Open access advocates say an FCC plan for new spectrum doesn't go
far enough to boost competition.

Grant Gross, IDG News Service

Tuesday, July 10, 2007
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,134318-c,broadband/article.html

Plans for valuable wireless spectrum being considered by the U.S.
Federal Communications Commission may not go far enough to encourage a
new broadband competitor, said groups calling for open-access rules for
part of the spectrum.

FCC Chairman Kevin Martin, in an interview
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/telecom/2007-07-09-wireless-telecom_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip
with USA Today published Tuesday, said he wants a truly open broadband
network for the 700MHz spectrum scheduled to be auctioned by early next
year. That would mean customers could attach any device to the network
and download any application, Martin told the newspaper.

Martin's proposal, reportedly to be applied to about a third of the
60MHz of spectrum to be auctioned, is similar to net neutrality rules
that several consumer groups and Internet companies have championed for
broadband networks.

But groups calling for open access to the 700MHz spectrum want more than
that. Groups such as Public Knowledge, Consumers Union and Free Press
want the FCC to require winners of part of the spectrum to provide
wholesale access to any wireless or broadband provider that wants to
offer service on that spectrum.

Rules that would allow customers to attach any device and download any
application are a good first step, but what Martin seems to be proposing
is not open access, said Gigi Sohn, president of Public Knowledge.
Our definition of open access includes wholesale. You're not going to
get competition in the broadband space unless you have wholesale as well.

+++

FCC Chairman Drafts Auction Proposal
By Teresa von Fuchs
WirelessWeek - July 10, 2007
http://www.wirelessweek.com/article.aspx?id=150432

According to reports from the Dow Jones newswires and /USA Today/, FCC
Chairman Kevin Martin has completed a draft of the proposed rules
governing the upcoming 700 MHz spectrum auction.

And according to an interview with /USA Today/, he has included a hotly
debated open access clause. Martin told /USA Today/, Whoever wins this
spectrum has to provide ... truly open broadband network - one that will
open the door to a lot of innovative services for consumers.

According to the report, Martin hopes open access requirements will
encourage innovation in the industry. He said his decisions came in part
because he is concerned that U.S. carriers' current practices limit
device and even feature availability. Whereas carriers in Europe have a
much more open policy and have seen faster adoption of features such as
Wi-Fi being included on handsets.

For its part, CTIA took umbrage with the proposal on a number of counts.
Contrary to what was reported in the media, many wireless providers are
offering Wi-Fi-enabled devices, and consumers are purchasing and using
those devices across the country, not just at company-branded
hot-spots. In fact, wireless consumers today have access to more than
700 different wireless handsets, said CTIA President and CEO Steve
Largent, in a statement.

The Dow Jones report said that Martin's proposal attaches open access
conditions to two blocks of spectrum that are each 11 MHz. That's only
22 MHz out of the total 60 MHz available, but it could mean an opening
for Google and possible entrants looking to provide a national broadband
Internet service that competes with traditional carriers offerings.

Though open access is a part of startup Frontline Wireless's auction
proposal, the Dow Jones newswire report said that many of the company's
suggestions were not included in Martin's initial proposal. The report
did say that Martin had included a 10 MHz of nationally licensed
spectrum that sits adjacent to spectrum set aside for public safety
agencies. But that many of Frontline's clauses for this spectrum were
left out, possibly making it less likely the startup will participate in
the bidding.

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[WISPA] XO/Nextlink adds 25 markets

2007-07-11 Thread Peter R.


http://www.telecomweb.com/tnd/24188.html

XO Holdings subsidiary Nextlink Wireless has launched wireless broadband 
service in another 25 markets, bringing its total to 37 and leading it 
to lay claim to operating the largest U.S. wireless broadband network.


The Nextlink services also will be sold by fellow XO Holdings subsidiary 
XO Communications to business users in all but one of those markets.


XO/Nextlink did not disclose plans for additional rollouts, but the 
company holds wireless spectrum in 75 market areas, so such a move is 
inevitable. The continuing rollout is a key part of XO Holdings' 
apparent plan to bring the two subsidiaries to life after a long period 
of financial doldrums (/TelecomWeb news break/, April 24, 2006).


The 25 new operational markets launched today include: Akron, Austin, 
Baltimore, Boston, Cleveland, Colorado Springs, Columbus, Denver, 
Detroit, Fort Lauderdale, Kansas City, Memphis, Minneapolis/St. Paul, 
Nashville, Oakland, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Portland, Sacramento, St. 
Louis, San Antonio, San Francisco, San Jose, Tucson and Wilmington.


Nextlink's existing broadband wireless service areas are Atlanta, 
Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami, Phoenix, San 
Diego, Seattle, Tampa and Washington, D.C. In all of those venues, 
XO/Nextlink offers last-mile and middle-mile backhaul services, 
including dedicated Internet access, metro Ethernet 
/search/?query=Ethernet, and voice over IP (VoIP). In addition to 
resale of its wireless services by sister division XO Communications, 
Nextlink also hawks wireless services to carriers of all types as well 
as to cablecos, Internet service providers (ISPs) and even broadband 
over powerline (BPL /search/?query=BPL) companies seeking faster 
network extension and market reach with wireless instead of fiber-optic 
deployment.


The company holds licensed local multipoint distribution system (LMDS) 
wireless spectrum in the 28 GHz - 31GHz and 39 GHz spectrum ranges, and 
it supports network speeds from 1.544 Mb/s (T-1) to as much as 155 Mb/s 
(OC-3).


With this major expansion, Nextlink now operates the nation's largest 
broadband wireless access network in the United States, bragged 
Nextlink President and CEO Robert Beran. Through our extensive reach, 
we can now offer our customers and reseller partners access to more than 
five million business locations with a wide range of scalable bandwidth 
options.




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[WISPA] FCC SDR Regs

2007-07-09 Thread Peter R.

On July 6, 2007, new Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations 
in the United States went into effect on devices that use 
software-defined radio (SDR) technologies. These devices include 
wireless access points, cell phones, PDA's, wireless network cards, etc. 
The FCC ruling will make it more difficult for manufacturers to get 
approval for these types of devices in this country. Accoring to the FCC 
the regulations are based primarily on safety and will attempt to stop 
users from doing things like modifying the source code of the devices to 
boost power or change frequencies of the devices.


http://ictcenter.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-federal-regulations-will-have.html

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[WISPA] House committee members ask FCC to reject Frontline

2007-07-09 Thread Peter R.


http://mrtmag.com/news/house_fcc_frontline_070607/
House committee members ask FCC to reject Frontline
Jul 6, 2007 2:19 PM, By Donny Jackson

A Republican-dominated group of House Commerce Committee members this 
week released a letter sent to FCC Chairman Kevin Martin asking that the 
Frontline Wireless proposal be dismissed and let the 700 MHz commercial 
auction proceed with no public-safety, wholesale or open-access obligations.


Frontline has proposed that the FCC establish a 10 MHz “E block” in the 
auction, with the winner of the spectrum being obligated to negotiate 
with a national public-safety licensee to build a nationwide wireless 
broadband network using the E block airwaves and 12 MHz of adjacent 
public-safety frequencies. The Frontline plan also calls for the E block 
licensee to provide only wholesale service to customers other than 
public safety and agree to open-access requirements.


Signed by 12 Republicans—most notably, ranking committee member Joe 
Barton (R-Texas)—and four junior Democrats, the letter states that 
including the latter obligations in commercial spectrum rules would be 
“inappropriate.”


“Suggestions to impose wholesale and so-called open access requirements 
… are blatant poison pills to discourage competing bids and to lower the 
price of spectrum,” the letter states. “Business models should be left 
to the market, not hard-wired into auctions.”


While supporting the notion of a public-private partnership on public 
safety’s 12 MHz of spectrum, the letter cites several potential risks 
involved with putting public-safety obligations on the E block, because 
the public-safety requirements would not be solidified for some time.


“The odds of crafting precisely the right auction conditions, that 
create precisely the right model and that result in precisely the right 
winner, who will then agree to public safety’s requirements, are minimal 
at best,” the letter states. “We are likely to be left with no bidder, 
or a winner who will neither meet the needs of public safety nor 
relinquish the license without a fight.”


Frontline Wireless Vice Chairman Reed Hundt this week said Frontline’s 
proposal would not preclude existing wireless carriers like Verizon 
Wireless and ATT Mobility—formerly know as Cingular Wireless—from 
bidding on the E block spectrum.


However, Frontline’s updated proposed rules would require the E block 
licensee to “be limited to providing service to public safety users, 
entities that provide retail service and products to end users, and 
providers and operators of critical infrastructure”—a stipulation that 
carriers with millions of retail consumer customers almost certainly 
would be willing to follow.


With this in mind, the letter asks Martin to reject the Frontline plan.

“Let us not mistake this proposal for what it is: yet another attempt to 
get valuable spectrum on the cheap,” the letter states.



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Re: [WISPA] Trango VOIP

2007-07-03 Thread Peter R.



What kills it is NOT the bandwidth.
What kills it is the I/O's.
Each box's CPU can only handle so many I/O requests per second.
Each stream is at least 1 I/O request.
That's how it is determined.

Asterisk can handle 1000 calls per server IF the server can handle that 
many I/O requests AND if the router can. Most routers cannot.  (This is 
all from a long discussion with John Todd about Asterisk clustering and 
stuff).


Regards,

Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc.
4isps.com


Doug Ratcliffe wrote:


But in the same sense, its not as cut and dry as oversubscription.  If it
were, then a 5Mbps/5Mbps ratio could give me 103 calls/Mbit (IAX2/G729) but
in reality, that's 100k PPS per 100 calls, making it unworkable.  But at the
same token, if I decide 15 concurrent calls @ G711 per AP is a usable number
with bandwidth left over, I can manage oversubscription there.  


Ultimately, it's the PPS that kills it.  But can systems like Mikrotik for
QOS adequately pack the packets over the wireless so that instead of
transmitting 100 300byte packets, to transmit 20 1500byte packets?  


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Re: [WISPA] Verizon in the Fixed Wireless business

2007-07-03 Thread Peter R.


Verizon Avenue is the MDU division for VZ.
It is the triple-play to the multi-tenant dwelling like dorms.

Regards,

Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc.
4isps.com


Mike Hammett wrote:


www.verizonavenue.com
http://www.alvarion.com/presscenter/pressreleases/2918/
http://www.alvarion.com/presscenter/pressreleases/2984/


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


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Re: [WISPA] Trango VOIP

2007-07-03 Thread Peter R.

Since you can load Asterisk on anything including a Linksys router, then 
you could probably load a version on a WRAP board.


- Peter


Doug Ratcliffe wrote:


So IAX2 is capable of packaging multiple phone calls into 1500 byte ethernet
packets?  I mean, G729 is 300 bytes, if 4 calls plus overhead became one
packet, then it sounds like it is the solution for wireless.  I wonder if an
Asterisk IAX/SIP converter with linux for QOS can be loaded onto a SBC like
a WRAP board?  That would allow me to have both QOS and the ability to use
inexpensive SIP devices on the inside of the network. 


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[WISPA] MobilePro sells CLEC

2007-07-02 Thread Peter R.


MobilePro Signs Definitive Agreement to Sell CLEC Division
Monday July 2, 6:00 am ET


$30 Million Price Would Enable Full Retirement of Cornell Capital 
Obligations at Closing


BETHESDA, Md., July 2 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- MobilePro Corp., 
announced today that it has signed a definitive agreement to sell its 
CLEC Division in a transaction valued at $30 million to United Systems 
Access Telecom, Inc., which does business as USA Telephone 
(www.savewithusa.com http://www.savewithusa.com). The sale will 
include cash of $21.9 million and $8.1 million in convertible preferred 
stock in United Systems Access paid in two tranches.


http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070702/clm039.html?.v=85

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[WISPA] Frontline Enlists Auctions Experts To Back E-Block Plan

2007-07-02 Thread Peter R.


http://www.telecomweb.com/tnd/24041.html

A trio of auction experts says Frontline Wireless' proposed E Block not 
only will increase social welfare, but will enhance revenue for the 
upcoming 700 MHz auction (/TelecomWeb news break/, June 5).


Peter Cramton, Andrzej Skrzypacz and Robert Wilson authored the 
analysis, sent by Frontline Wireless earlier today to the Federal 
Communications Commission, that says in part that the high foreclosure 
value of the 700 MHz spectrum to the nation's two largest wireless 
carriers, Verizon http://www.telecomweb.com/search/?query=Verizon and 
ATT, both of which inherited 800 MHz cellular licenses from an era in 
which licenses, were awarded for free rather than sold at auction.


The reason that limiting participation can increase revenues and social 
welfare is simple: incumbents have profits to protect and entrants 
realize this, so rationally the potential entrants stay away from the 
auction because the high costs of participating outweigh the low odds 
that they will win, the analysis states. Thus the incumbents win in 
two ways: they protect their profits and they get the new licenses for 
scarce spectrum at low prices.


The report also notes the E Block proposal increases social welfare and 
likely auction revenues:


Verizon http://www.telecomweb.com/search/?query=Verizon and ATT earn 
substantial scarcity rents from holding nearly all of the original low 
frequency cellular licenses, which gives them operational and quality 
advantages reflected in their prices and profits.


The 700 MHz spectrum has high foreclosure value to Verizon and ATT, 
separate from the true economic value of building and operating a 
network. Market entry by new 700 MHz bidders threatens their incumbent 
position, which they will defend and which they have the capital to do.


The high foreclosure value to Verizon and ATT deters new entrants from 
participating in the auction, reducing bidder competition and driving 
down auction revenues. New entrants rationally stay away from an auction 
when the costs of participating outweigh expected profits.


An open access, wholesale E Block, combined with bidding credits, will 
increase auction revenues. These rules draw new entrants into the 
auction to compete with the incumbent bidders, creating greater bidder 
competition and causing winning bids to reflect the economic value of 
the spectrum.


Secondary use of the public safety 
http://www.telecomweb.com/search/?query=public%20safety spectrum 
during non-emergency times effectively increases the quantity of 
spectrum auctioned, increasing the value for the E Block winner.


Guaranteed access to nationwide coverage increases value of other blocks 
to small and regional carriers.


According to Frontline, its proposed E Block - encompassing a limited 
slice of spectrum at 700 MHz - would require the construction of a 
nationwide, interoperable wireless broadband network for public safety 
http://www.telecomweb.com/search/?query=public%20safety, at no cost to 
taxpayers but at the willing expense of the license-holder as a 
condition of the license. The E Block proposal also requires that this 
wireless broadband network be open to competition and innovation, 
including open to any kind of customer and all handsets and devices that 
do not harm the network.


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[WISPA] Toledo Reconsiders Muni Wi-Fi

2007-07-02 Thread Peter R.


http://wifinetnews.com/archives/007750.html

By Glenn Fleishman

Toledo, Ohio’s mayor has backed away from Wi-Fi plan: The mayor says the 
city won’t continue to seek council approval for a $2.2m contract with 
MetroFi. The contract would cover five years of service for the city, 
and was estimated to be at or near a cost conservation level compared 
with current services. MetroFi would spend about $5m to build 
advertising-supported free service, with an optional paid, ad-free 
offering as elsewhere. The city’s IS director resigned and then was 
fired after a confrontation with the mayor over the plan’s leadership. 
The mayor is now looking for partners, and won’t “spend taxpayer money.” 
Of course, if you have a five-year plan that could be revenue neutral, 
you’re risking that it won’t be, but you’re not per se spending taxpayer 
dollars; and, no savings from efficiency were calculated.


The parent company of the newspaper covering this story put in a bid 
that the city found incomplete; MetroFi won in that round. That firm, 
Buckeye CableSystem, says that MetroFi’s solution “is likely to become 
obsolete,” and continues by criticizing Wi-Fi as a metro-scale solution. 
Well, sure, but what’s the alternative? Mobile WiMax? Maybe next year, 
and you need licensed spectrum. And all technology becomes obsolete; 
it’s a question of the value over its expected lifetime and whether that 
value presents an opportunity by investing now rather than waiting some 
period of time. Wi-Fi will get better, and any well designed network 
could be upgraded in phases.


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Re: [WISPA] Low cost generator

2007-07-01 Thread Peter R.


You could just add a line conditioner.


Brad Belton wrote:


We have found many (most all?) 10kW job site type generators do not work
well if at all with APC UPS.  In the event of a power failure we simply rent
a 25kW towable diesel generator.  Granted 25kW is way overkill for most any
HUB site, but apparently the larger generators provide cleaner power that
the APC UPS's are happy with.

Does anyone have one of these 7kW Guardian standby generators in use with
APC UPS's?  $1999.00 delivered with transfer switch is a pretty strong deal!

Best,


Brad
 


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Re: [WISPA] Voicemail to Text/email

2007-06-25 Thread Peter R.

There are a couple of services that do this including SimulScribe, 
SpinVox and Phonetic.


- Peter

Justin S. Wilson wrote:


   Found this interesting:

   http://www.callwave.com/landing/vtxt.asp



   Vtxt http://www.callwave.com/landing/vtxt.asp , a new
service from CallWave that transcribes voicemails and sends them to you as
text messages or e-mails. All you have to do is forward your calls to a
unique phone number supplied by CallWave. Your messages are processed by an
automated speech-recognition engine and sent to you in about four or five
minutes. You can choose to receive the transcriptions as text messages,
e-mails or on the CallWave website.



---

Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services

WEB: http://www.mtin.net

WEB: http://www.metrospan.net

WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com

 


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[WISPA] Google in Iowa

2007-06-24 Thread Peter R.



*Google Plans $600 Million Data Center in Iowa*
According to recent reports, Google Inc. plans to spend $600 million on 
a data center in Council Bluffs western Iowa. Google plans to start 
operations at the facility by spring of 2009, and said the region is a 
busy crossroads of Internet activity. Construction in Council Bluffs has 
already begun. The western Iowa facility exists on nearly 1,200 acres of 
land, with room for expansion. It will employ about 200 workers who will 
keep the facility running 24 hours a day.
-- more at 
http://www.datacenterjournal.com/News/Article.asp?article_id=1012

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[WISPA] Ruckus Embarq


Embarq Logistics is going to distribute Ruckus Wireless
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/news_press_release,124602.shtml
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[WISPA] Adelstein backs Open Access 700

Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein, a Democrat, said he supports the idea 
of imposing an open-access condition on companies bidding to acquire 
part of the spectrum.


http://www.reuters.com/article/governmentFilingsNews/idUSN2018478420070620

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[WISPA] CALEA FCC Comments


PLEADING CYCLE EXTENDED IN THE MATTER OF PETITION FOR EXPEDITED
RULEMAKING TO ESTABLISH TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS AND STANDARDS
PURSUANT TO SECTION 107(b) OF THE COMMUNICATIONS ASSISTANCE FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT ACT (CALEA)
RM-11376
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-07-2522A1.pdf
Comments Due: July 25, 2007
Reply Comments Due: September 25, 2007
On May 15, 2007, the United States Department of Justice, the Federal 
Bureau of Investigation,
and the Drug Enforcement Administration (“Petitioners”) filed a 
“Petition for Expedited Rulemaking”
requesting the Commission to initiate a proceeding to find that the 
J-STD-025-B standard published
jointly by the Telecommunication Industry Association and the Alliance 
for Telecommunications, is
deficient pursuant to Section 107(b) of the Communications Assistance 
for Law Enforcement Act
(“CALEA”), 47 U.S.C. 1006(b).1 Petitioners specifically contend that 
four additional or modified
intercept capabilities must be included in the J-STD-025-B with respect 
to CDMA2000 packet data
wireless services, pursuant to the requirements of CALEA Section 103(a), 
47 U.S.C. § 1002(a). These
capabilities are: packet activity reporting; provision of more granular 
mobile handset location
information at the beginning and end of a communication; service 
quality, including security,
performance and reliability requirements; and timing information (time 
stamping). Petitioners ask the
Commission to mandate these capabilities, adopt appropriate rules, and 
order telecommunications
carriers to provide the capabilities within twelve months after the 
effective date of a final Commission

order.
Petitioner’s CALEA Section 107(b) filing requires the Commission to 
undertake a detailed
analysis of complex technical and legal issues associated with each of 
the four intercept capabilities
identified in the petition. Although the Commission appreciates the need 
to move quickly to address the
petition, it is essential that commenters have the opportunity to 
develop a full and detailed record for the
Commission’s consideration. Accordingly, on its own motion and pursuant 
to delegated authority, the
Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau hereby extends the comment 
and reply comment filing
dates in the above-referenced matter as follows: interested parties may 
file comments on or before July
25, 2007 and reply comments on or before September 25, 2007. See 47 
U.S.C. § 154(i); 47 C.F.R. §§

0.191, and 0.392.
The Commission expects that all parties will fully utilize this 
opportunity to carefully and
completely address in their filed comments all relevant issues. The 
Commission reiterates, however, its
desire to expeditiously address Petitioners’ request. No additional 
extensions of comment and reply

comment dates should be expected.2
All comment and reply comment filings should refer to RM-11376.
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[WISPA] Wireless Patent Dispute



 Patent Injunction Could Roil Wi-Fi Industry

http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199905713

An Australian federal agency won a patent for Wi-Fi technology in 
September, 1996, and now a federal judge has ordered a vendor to stop 
selling wireless LAN products until it obtains a license.

By _Richard Martin_ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
InformationWeek 
http://www.informationweek.com/;jsessionid=AZQLI1I01NXE2QSNDLPCKHSCJUNN2JVN

Jun 20, 2007 01:15 PM

A little-noticed federal court decision on June 15 
http://www.townsend.com/news/pressrelease.asp?o=8258, issuing an 
injunction against wireless-LAN equipment vendor Buffalo Technology in 
its patent fight with the Australian science agency CSIRO, could have 
broad implications for the entire Wi-Fi 
http://www.techweb.com/encyclopedia/defineterm.jhtml?term=Wi-Fix=y= 
industry.


Judge Leonard Davis of the Eastern District Court of Texas found that 
Buffalo was violating CSIRO's 1996 patent underlying 802.11a/g 
technology -- the core of all corporate wireless 
http://www.techweb.com/encyclopedia/defineterm.jhtml?term=wirelessx=y= 
LANs and public Wi-Fi networks -- and that the Japanese manufacturer, 
which has a U.S. subsidiary based in Austin, Texas, must cease selling 
WLAN 
http://www.techweb.com/encyclopedia/defineterm.jhtml?term=WLANx=y= 
products until it reaches a license agreement with CSIRO.


Recognizing that the CSIRO patent poses a universal threat to makers of 
Wi-Fi gear, a group of major tech companies that includes Intel, Dell 
and Hewlett-Packard filed countersuits in May 2005, seeking to have the 
CSIRO patent invalidated.


Judge Davis' decision http://www.townsend.com/files/CSIROOrderG.pdf 
could lead to hefty licensing fees to CSIRO from makers of Wi-Fi-based 
products from laptops to smartphones to semiconductors to gaming consoles.


The ruling that the Buffalo products infringe will apply 
across-the-board, said Dan Furniss, in an interview. Furniss is a 
partner at Bay Area law firm Townsend and Townsend and Crew, which 
represents CSIRO.


An Australian federal agency akin to the National Science Foundation in 
the U.S., the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research 
Organization http://www.csiro.au/ (CSIRO) conducts scientific research 
for the public good. After carrying out research seeking to solve a set 
of problems around connecting computers wirelessly in the mid-'90s, the 
agency in 1996 was awarded U.S. patent No. 5,487,069 (known as the '069 
patent) in September, 1996.


In 1999, the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) 
finalized the 802.11a standard, and four years later 802.11g was issued. 
Collectively known as Wi-Fi, the 802.11 
http://www.techweb.com/encyclopedia/defineterm.jhtml?term=802.11x=y= 
family of standard led to an explosion of in-office wireless networks 
and of public hotspots, rapidly creating a multi-billion dollar industry 
in which close to a quarter-of-a-billion devices have been sold in the 
last three years. CSIRO is not a patent troll, asserted Furniss in an 
interview, but a government agency seeking reasonable license agreements 
with the companies profiting from the patented technology.


CSIRO invented the .11a and g technology, and they want people to 
license it, said Furniss. They tried for two years to get people to 
license it, but everybody had lawyers who said 'It's not valid,' or 'We 
don't infringe because we do something different,' which is ridiculous.


Judge Davis' decision is noteworthy because it seemingly contradicts the 
Supreme Court's May 2006 ruling in another patent case, eBay v. 
MercExchange 
http://www.informationweek.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=188100570, 
in which the Court found that an injunction could be issued in an 
infringement case only if the plaintiff is actually in competition with 
the defendant -- in other words, companies or individuals who seek to 
make money from patent holdings, rather than actual products and 
services, were unlikely to get injunctive relief.


The Supreme Court has been engaged in its own campgn in the area of 
'patent reform,' said Bruce Sunstein, in an interview. Sunstein an 
attorney at the Boston law firm of Bromberg  Sunstein, which 
specializes in intellectual property cases, said the high court has 
issued a series of decisions in the past year or so that have uniformly 
come down against patent enforcement.


In this case, Judge Davis noted that a research institution like CSIRO 
could suffer irreparable harm http://mcsmith.blogs.com/ in terms of 
lost opportunities for future research and development programs.


This is the first decision since eBay in which a non-comptitor has 
gotten an injunction, pointed out Furniss.


There are currently three other cases in the Texas court involving CSIRO 
and big tech companies, and Davis has ordered mediation in those suits 
to be completed by November. Noting that the court has now bolstered the 
validity of the Australian

[WISPA] Copper Plant

Last month, Tom Evslin, the co-founder of Internet service provider ATT 
Worldnet and voice-over-IP wholesaler ITXC, created quite a stir by 
making the bold prediction that the twisted copper pair to the home 
won't exist in 2013.


By 2012 [there will be] no more reason to use our landlines--so we 
won't, Evslin wrote in his blog. I don't think the copper plant will 
last past 2012. The problem is the cost of maintaining and operating it 
when it has very few subscribers. Obviously [it's] a huge problem for 
ATT and Verizon. And an important social issue as well.


Those comments provoked quite a reaction from readers, most of which 
were along the lines of, Wha-huh? Most people were eager to bet 
against Evslin's prediction.


At the same time, his words echoed in my mind as I read recent 
complaints from the Communications Workers of America and the West 
Virginia Public Service Commission that Verizon Communications is 
neglecting its copper plant as it focuses on fiber-to-the-home 
deployment. The CWA told Virginia regulators that Verizon is foregoing 
preventative maintenance on much of the state's copper lines and 
ordering Band-Aid repairs for major problems. Verizon refutes that 
charge that copper has, in essence, become its redheaded stepchild. But 
those complaints highlight the way that copper becomes increasingly 
onerous for Verizon as its fiber network grows. Copper lines will 
require more care than passive optical networks and yield less revenue. 
In some cases, it might behoove Verizon for that copper to fail sooner 
rather than later to accelerate fiber migration. So I can't help but 
wonder if Verizon would bet against Evslin. Or on him.

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[WISPA] Tampa Council To Hear Report On Citywide Wireless


http://www.tbo.com/news/metro/MGB8F4QHW2F.html

Tampa Council To Hear Report On Citywide Wireless


TAMPA - Making all of Tampa a wireless Internet hotspot is something 
city officials say they'd like to see happen. But how to do it,

and how much it will cost, is something they have yet to determine.

The only cost to the city is the time required of its staff to negotiate 
and sort out the logistical issues of the public-private partnership.



Buckner said he is trying to determine which Internet providers would be
interested in establishing a wireless service in Tampa. He said Tampa 
has talked to EarthLink, but that he is unsure whether the company will 
be in a position to provide the service because they have just signed 
onto other big projects and have limited money to go around.


 In St. Petersburg, for example, certain government Web sites will be
available without a subscription.


Why should St. Petersburg be ahead of us in technology? Dingfelder said.
If we move slowly, then by the time we get it installed, it will be
obsolete.

Regards,

Peter Radizeski
RAD-INFO, Inc.
813.963.5884
www.rad-info.net
www.marketingideaguy.com

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[WISPA] American Tower

*American Tower Corporation* refinanced its existing $1.6 billion senior 
secured credit facilities at the American Tower operating company level 
with a new $1.25 billion senior unsecured revolving credit facility of 
American Tower Corporation.


Boston-based American Tower is an independent owner, operator and 
developer of broadcast and wireless communications sites. It owns and 
operates more than 22,000 sites in the United States, Mexico and Brazil. 
Additionally, American Tower manages approximately 2,000 
revenue-producing rooftop and tower sites.


At closing, the company says it drew down approximately $1 billion under 
the new credit facility and used the net proceeds and cash on hand to 
repay all amounts outstanding under the existing AMT OpCo credit 
facilities. The new credit facility has a term of five years, maturing 
in full June 8, 2012.


The new senior unsecured revolving credit facility is rated BB+ by 
*Standard  Poor's*, Ba1 by *Moody's* and BB+ by *Fitch*.


The company says the credit facility doesn't require amortization of 
payments and may be paid prior to maturity in whole or in part at the 
company's option without penalty or premium. The credit facility allows 
American Tower to use borrowings for working capital and other general 
corporate purposes of the company and its subsidiaries (including, 
without limitation, to refinance or repurchase other indebtedness and, 
provided certain conditions are met, to repurchase the company's equity 
securities, in each case without additional lender approval).


http://www.telecomweb.com/tnd/23710.html

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Re: [WISPA] Copper Plant

The ATT (originally SBC) VDSL plan requires copper to the home. Fiber 
to the neighborhood.


In VZ region, they are pulling out copper as fast as they can  
replacing it with fiber. (FiOS is FTTH not FTTN).

VZ even clips the copper when they install your FiOS.
And what VZ isn't replacing, thieves are stealing, since copper is easy 
to sell.


VZ's union is even claiming that VZ is not maintaining the copper plant 
in some areas.


If you watch the FCC network notifications, there is more copper 
replacement being done this year then ever before.


- Peter

Steve Stroh wrote:


Clint:

No, not really, as ATT is betting on copper only in the last few hundred
feet to the premises. While they're not going to do 
fiber-to-the-premises,

they will be doing a fiber infrastructure.


Thanks,

Steve


On 6/15/07, Clint Ricker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



ATT is betting on copper for the next 5-10 years for the next 5-10 
years.

I think that, alone, about disbunks this article.

-Clint






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[WISPA] more on 700

A new group of veteran wireless entrepreneurs - the Wireless Founders 
Coalition for Innovation - sent a letter last week to Federal 
Communications Commission Chairman Kevin Martin to provide its 
real-world perspective for why open access requirements are critical 
for the proposed 700 MHz E Block (TelecomWeb news break, June 5), which 
they say represents just a small portion of this beachfront spectrum to 
be auctioned later this year.


We are writing as members of the Wireless Founders Coalition for 
Innovation, which is a group of seasoned wireless industry entrepreneurs 
who have founded wireless companies that now generate billions of 
dollars of revenue and have created thousands of jobs, the letter says 
in part. We have brought innovation to the wireless industry by 
creating new business models, launching new services, and addressing 
pressing consumer needs that were previously ignored by the large 
wireless carriers.


The coalition for is made of up 15 C-level wireless leaders who have 
been involved in such companies as Virgin Mobile USA, Zingy, Palmsource, 
Palm, Seven Networks, BitWave Semiconductor and a host of smaller startups.


We write in support of an Open Access E Block, as described in 
Frontline's proposal. We believe the wireless industry is ripe with 
opportunities for innovation and economic growth, but the large wireless 
carriers currently act as gatekeepers to block or deter many of these 
opportunities. From firsthand experience we know that negotiating with 
the large carriers for access to their networks can be a difficult and 
time-consuming process that can add months if not years to the launch of 
a new venture and hinder the 'trial and error' process intrinsic to the 
entrepreneurial process, the group continued. An 'Open Access' 
framework, by contrast, would enable innovation at 'Internet speed.'


It continues, As entrepreneurs we are not only visionaries, we are 
pragmatists. We know it is difficult to for the FCC /search/?query=FCC 
to force the large carriers to open up their existing networks 
retroactively. Nor do we ask the FCC to apply Open Access rules to the 
entire 700 MHz band. However, we think it is eminently reasonable for 
the FCC to consider setting aside a single 10-megahertz block in the 
upcoming auction - a small fraction of the 700 MHz spectrum allocated to 
commercial use - as a sandbox for entrepreneurs. We applaud the 
Commission for paving the way for the DTV transition and freeing this 
valuable spectrum for new and exciting services. We believe, however, 
that this effort will have been wasted if it does not create 
opportunities for entrepreneurs to freely explore new ideas, services, 
and business models.


The group then points out a significant difference between working with 
telcos and cablecos and working with celcos. Wireless entrepreneurship 
would take a huge step forward if wireless was more like the Internet. 
What makes the wireline Internet so friendly from an entrepreneur's 
perspective is its openness. One does not have to ask Comcast or Time 
Warner Cable or even Verizon /search/?query=Verizon's DSL division for 
permission to launch a new product, service or device. To borrow the 
Nike slogan, you can 'just do it,' they write.


The complete text of this story, outlining this group and its goals, is 
available on Telecom Policy Report at http://www.telecomweb.com/news/tpr.

http://www.telecomweb.com/tnd/23706.html

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Re: [WISPA] Copper Plant


correct

George Rogato wrote:

Isn't the reason they are replacing some of their copper with fiber is 
because they then do not have to allow competition to ride their wires?

Old wires old rules, new fiber new rules?

George

Peter R. wrote:

The ATT (originally SBC) VDSL plan requires copper to the home. 
Fiber to the neighborhood.


In VZ region, they are pulling out copper as fast as they can  
replacing it with fiber. (FiOS is FTTH not FTTN).

VZ even clips the copper when they install your FiOS.
And what VZ isn't replacing, thieves are stealing, since copper is 
easy to sell.


VZ's union is even claiming that VZ is not maintaining the copper 
plant in some areas.


If you watch the FCC network notifications, there is more copper 
replacement being done this year then ever before.


- Peter



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[WISPA] FCC Adelstein at WCA

2007-06-14 Thread Peter R.


REMARKS OF JONATHAN S. ADELSTEIN, COMMISSIONER, FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS
COMMISSION,.  CMMR.  National Priorities for Broadband Wireless,
Wireless Communications Association, WCA 2007, Washington, DC, June 13,
2007, [As prepared for delivery]
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-274064A1.doc
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-274064A1.pdf
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-274064A1.txt

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[WISPA] Clearwire inks wireless pact with DirecTV, EchoStar

2007-06-14 Thread Peter R.

Clearwire Corp. said on Thursday it has signed deals to provide wireless 
high-speed Internet access to customers of satellite TV providers 
DirecTV Group Inc. and EchoStar Communications Corp., sending shares up 
as much as 24 percent.


The company, founded by wireless pioneer Craig McCaw, said the deals 
allow the two largest U.S. satellite TV companies to offer high-speed 
Internet, video and voice in all markets that Clearwire offers its service.


DirecTV and EchoStar will offer Clearwire's high-speed Internet service 
to their customers while Clearwire in turn will be able to offer the 
video services of one or both satellite companies to its customers.


The launch is planned for later this year, the high-speed wireless 
service provider said.


DirecTV and EchoStar Satellite TV providers have been facing competitive 
pressure from cable operators in the last two years as the cable 
companies have won customers with attractively-priced packages of video, 
phone and high speed Internet access.


Both DirecTV and EchoStar have separately said they would explore all 
options available to them including Wi-Max technology such as Clearwire, 
broadband access over power lines and broadband over satellite.


Last year both companies signed a distribution deal with WildBlue, a 
satellite broadband provider, partly owned by Liberty Media Holding Corp..


Liberty Media is expected to close a deal to take a controlling stake in 
DirecTV by the end of the year.


DirecTV said last month it would look at broadband access over power 
lines. Liberty also has a stake in Current Group, a provider of such 
services.


The Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday that DirecTV and EchoStar 
are considering a bid to buy Intelsat, the world's largest commercial 
satellite provider. This could also provide extra capacity to provide 
more advanced digital TV and Internet access services.


Clearwire shares rose 20 percent, or $3.98, to $23.85 in Thursday's 
midday trading, after touching its highest level since March. Shares in 
DirecTV rose by 2.2 percent to $23.27 while shares in EchoStar were up 
by 1 percent to $45.39 in early trade.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070614/wr_nm/clearwire_agreement_dc_2

[FYI... Liberty Media owns majority interest in DirecTV and WildBlue]

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[WISPA] Pricing


Seth Godin has a good post on the theory of pricing:
http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2007/06/three_humps_and.html

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Re: [WISPA] Pricing


You could create 2 brands like Toyota and Lexus.
One is a decent car but the other is a luxury.
The difference between a Camary and a Lexus 200 was about $5000. Same 
basic car.


Let's look at Marriott. These are its brands:
Marriott Hotels  Resorts
JW Marriott Hotels  Resorts
Renaissance Hotels  Resorts
Courtyard by Marriott
Residence Inn by Marriott
Fairfield Inn by Marriott
Marriott Conference Centers
TownePlace Suites by Marriott
SpringHill Suites by Marriott
Marriott Vacation Club International
Horizons by Marriott
The Ritz-Carlton Hotel Company, L.L.C.
The Ritz-Carlton Club
Marriott ExecuStay
Marriott Executive Apartments
Grand Residences by Marriott

Everyone is branded with an exact thought in your head for who it 
targets and what you get.


It's all in the marketing. Lots of ways to package your services to meet 
different strata of a region.


Regards,

Peter Radizeski
RAD-INFO, Inc.
813-963-5884


Mark Nash wrote:

This is interesting, and something I've been giving alot of thought 
to.  My market is mostly rural, residential, mom  pop shops, etc.  
Providing inexpensive access will get me more customers but as we all 
know, our APs only have so much capacity so how do you get as much 
revenue as you can out of each and every one of them?  If you go 
exclusive then you grow slower but your revenue per user goes up, 
making your AP more valuable.


Anyone got comments on providing a mixture, perhaps even with 
different quality APs at a single site?


Mark Nash
UnwiredOnline
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax


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[WISPA] 700 auction


Big surprise here: ATT, Verizon Oppose Google Over Airwaves

http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2007/06/11/at-t-verizon-oppose-google-over-airwaves 


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Re: [WISPA] Good Luck to all.


Michael Erskine wrote:


Dawn DiPietro wrote:


All,

Some on this list have felt it important to steer the discussion 
towards personal attacks and try to discredit me anytime I want to 
discuss how the rules and regulations affect this industry as a 
whole. My only agenda is to help others to understand how they can 
become compliant and do my best to explain how to read the rules set 
forth by the authorities. Since there is a lack of appreciation for 
my posts I feel I need to move on to a more professional venue. Good 
luck with all your future endeavors.


Regards,
Dawn DiPietro


Ahem, Sorry to see you go.  I didn't see personal attacks but I didn't 
read all the posts.  I don't think it is necessary to tar the venue 
because there are people on the venue you can't get along with.


Why not stay and prove your points?  When you are right you are 
right.  Eventually the truth will come out.


-m-


Mike,

I know email is lousy communication because there is a lack of tone and 
emotion, but many of your responses come off as personal attacks. Maybe 
it is supposed to be sarcasm, but as I read it, it was an attack.


If you don't agree, say why you don't agree.   No reason to just throw 
sarcastic jabs.  One of the rules of netiquette is that if you are not 
adding anything to the conversation, then don't post. (I am guilty of 
this at times myself). 

Yeah, it was a harped on issue. (It seems the longest threads involve 
MT).  From what I read, most people are offering opinions, not facts. 
And there is no shortage of Opinion. And in the case of MT, it is like 
arguing religion or politics -- you aren't going to change anyone's 
mind.  Hence, why at least one person thought the list was hijacked.


And threads like this with even perceived attacks, don't help the Org.

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[WISPA] Google Maps: How to find latitude and longitude

2007-06-11 Thread Peter R.


http://lifehacker.com/software/google-maps/how-to-find-latitude-and-longitude-267361.php



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Re: [WISPA] How can this be?

2007-06-07 Thread Peter R.


Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


The USA show's the fastest, most reliable connections!

I guess that must be because no one here uses the internet!  (eye roll)


Europe mainly email and text.
US - porn, research, work, porn, mp3's, p2p - those with bb really eat it up - 
ask the MPAA and the RIAA

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[WISPA] FCC Gets 250,000 calls about 700 Auction

2007-06-05 Thread Peter R.

This weekend, the Federal Communications Commission got an unexpected 
surprise when a quarter-million people flooded their offices with 
letters http://www.savetheinternet.com/airwaves urging the agency to 
use our airwaves to connect more Americans to an open and affordable 
Internet.


The mass outcry comes in advance of the FCC efforts to set rules for the 
upcoming auction of the 700 MHz band of spectrum. If used right, this 
slice of public airwaves could beam cheap, high-speed Internet signals 
to every park bench, coffee shop, workplace, and home in America.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/timothy-karr/a-quartermillion-america_b_50649.html

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[WISPA] ISP wins fiber optic scrap with ILEC

2007-06-04 Thread Peter R.


Pittsburgh Business Times - June 1, 2007
http://pittsburgh.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/stories/2007/06/04/story8.html

Salsgiver Internet Services is the latest company to win a battle with 
North Pittsburgh Telephone Co. over the right to use telephone poles to 
install fiber optic lines.


Last week, the Federal Communications Commission ruled that Salsgiver's 
complaint against Gibsonia-based North Pittsburgh Telephone Co., a 
division of North Pittsburgh Systems Inc., was valid and ordered North 
Pittsburgh to give Salsgiver access to North Pittsburgh's poles for the 
placement of attachments. This will allow the Freeport-based Internet 
service provider to offer fiber optic data and phone products to 
customers within the North Pittsburgh telephone territory. Fiber optic 
cable uses hair-thin strands of fiber to link homes and businesses to a 
faster network than the more traditional copper lines.


We've struggled over the years with North Pittsburgh to roll out 
service, President and CEO Loren Salsgiver told the Business Times May 
24. It sounds like we can move forward no matter what they do. ... 
We'll start tomorrow since we got the ruling today.


It's the third ruling the FCC has made this year in regard to the same 
complaint against North Pittsburgh. Two other complaints, filed by DQE 
Communications, a subsidiary of Duquesne Light Holdings, and Fibertech 
Networks, were approved in February. Salsgiver is still awaiting one 
more FCC decision that could grant the company access to the poles for 
additional video services.


North Pittsburgh spokesman Harry Crytzer said the company plans to 
comply with the FCC decision, but declined further comment.


The change will make it easier for companies to offer more competitive 
services in the North Pittsburgh territory, according to Salsgiver.


The whole sad part about this thing is yeah, they are hurting us, but 
the consumers and the businesses are the ones who are losing out because 
we pay far too much for phone services, far too much for data services, 
Salsgiver said.


Salsgiver plans to roll out voice and data services to customers this 
summer, and he hopes to offer a three-part package of services to 
customers: voice, data and video. He hopes to add about 8,000 
subscribers in the region.


Rochester, N.Y.-based Fibertech, which is in the process of establishing 
a 250-mile fiber optic network in Pittsburgh, also plans to start moving 
into that region this summer.


It takes time to be able to file the appropriate documents to get pole 
access and buy equipment, spokesman Dan Clifton said. Since the 
lawsuit (went) through, we haven't done anything specific with North 
Pittsburgh because we've been focused on where we do have a network. We 
will be done with that in June and will begin to explore opportunities 
for business.



 Hung up in court

Four companies filed complaints with the Federal Communications 
Commission against North Pittsburgh Telephone Co. The FCC has ruled on 
three in favor of the complainant. Here's a look at the cases:



 Salsgiver Telecom Inc. v. North Pittsburgh Telephone Co.

Complaint filed: Feb. 7, 2006
Ruling: May 23, 2007
Decision: For North Pittsburgh to provide Salsgiver with immediate 
access to North Pittsburgh's poles



 Salsgiver Communications Inc. v. North Pittsburgh Telephone Co.

Complaint Filed: March 20, 2006
Ruling: Pending


 Fiber Technologies Networks LLC v North Pittsburgh Telephone Co.

Complaint Filed: July 8, 2005
Ruling: Feb. 23, 2007
Decision: For North Pittsburgh to provide Fibertech with immediate 
access to North Pittsburgh's poles for the placement of Fibertech's 
attachments



 DQE Communications Network Services LLC v North Pittsburgh
 Telephone Co.

Complaint filed: Dec. 2, 2004
Ruling: Feb. 2, 2007
Decision: For North Pittsburgh to provide DQE with immediate access to 
North Pittsburgh's poles and other facilities for the placement of DQE's 
attachments/ Source: Federal Communications ComMisson/


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[WISPA] John Edwards on 700

2007-06-04 Thread Peter R.

John Edwards may be the first White House contender to offer up an 
opinion on the upcoming 700 MHz auction scheduled for later this year at 
the Federal Communications Commission, and he appears to stand behind 
the notion of more bidding opportunities for smaller players.


In a letter yesterday to Chairman Kevin Martin, the candidate wrote, 
The upcoming 700 MHz spectrum auction presents a once-in-a-lifetime 
opportunity to shape the next generation of American technology. In 
recent years, the Internet has grown to touch everything and transform 
much of what it touches. It's not the answer to everything, but it can 
powerfully accelerate the best of America. It improves our democracy by 
making quiet voices loud, improves our economy by making small markets 
big, and improves opportunity by making unlikely dreams possible.


Calling the spectrum slice beachfront, Edwards said the 700 MHz band 
is particularly well suited to wireless broadband because it has wide 
coverage and can easily pass through walls. As such, by setting bid 
and service rules that unleash the potential of smaller new entrants, 
you can transform information opportunity for people across America -- 
rural and urban, wealthy and not, he added. As much as half of the 
spectrum should be set aside for wholesalers who can lease access to 
smaller start-ups, which has the potential to improve service to rural 
and underserved areas. Additionally, anyone winning rights to this 
valuable public resource should be required not to discriminate among 
data and services and to allow any device to be attached to their 
service. Finally, bidding should be anonymous to avoid collusion and 
retaliatory bids.


Edwards did not address the contentious issue of a nationwide broadband 
network set-aside for first responders, but it's interesting that this 
rather arcane topic - spectrum auctions - may become a plank in a 
Republican or Democratic platform next year.


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Re: [WISPA] ISPCON

2007-05-31 Thread Peter R.


Tom DeReggi wrote:


Peter, Did you get a WOW?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


My WOW's were a little different:
- my session was full (SRO) so that was a WOW.
- The CEO Exchange was kind of a WOW
- the WISPA spectrum meeting was a WOW
- how many people I knew there was a WOW

I had fun - and I had a great dinner and Christini's :)

Peter @ RAD-INFO, In.c

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[WISPA] Shannon's Law

2007-05-30 Thread Peter R.


http://telephonyonline.com/mag/telecom_shannons_specter/

Great little article about the fact that physics will always trump 
marketing.

(Or you can only push so much down a pipe).

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[WISPA] ISPCON

2007-05-30 Thread Peter R.

I was wondering if anyone had a WOW from the show.  (Besides the side 
trip to Daytona, that is :)


A copy of my slides can be seen at slideshare.net/4isps/.
(We didn't use the slides. We just banged out 60+ nuggets of business 
wisdom in the time slot. One of my clients sent me the list; you can 
read it here:  
http://marketingideaguy.com/news/50-ideas-in-50-minutes-ispcon)

Next week, I will have a conference call to recap these and ISPCON.
Email me to join in.

Start planning for ISPCON in San Jose on October 16-18.

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[WISPA] new ways to share broadband via wi-fi

2007-05-29 Thread Peter R.


http://gigaom.com/2007/05/28/meet-wefi/
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[WISPA] WISPA filed comments on 700 Auction

2007-05-29 Thread Peter R.


WISPA filed comments on 700 Auction, did you?

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdfid_document=6519414695
   or   http://tinyurl.com/2v4h84

If you have questions, contact us for answers or ideas. Thank you.

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Re: [WISPA] Joost and your network.

2007-05-29 Thread Peter R.


I agree with Dawn. It is about perception.

I think most of the comment writers are the fringe and do not fit the 
profile of your ideal customer.


However, a little prevention may help.  Spell this stuff out in your AUP 
or terms of service. Make sure the customer reads it either with a 
required check box or a required initials.


Right now VZ and att are not having issues with their FTTx roll-outs 
because the up-take is so small (less than 15%).
If they were seeing 65% or higher (don't they wish), they would already 
be experiencing bandwidth constraint issues as well.


As more services move to the Internet, usage is going to increase. 
Hosted Apps, Hosted PBX, Games, Back-up, email, video, IM, etc. Usage 
WILL be increasing. Management of your network as well as the customer 
perception is vital.


It might be wise to start thinking about selling connectivity by service 
- email only, website only, heavy user, etc.

Start packaging with built-in expectations.

Regards,

Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc.


Dawn DiPietro wrote:


All,

Talk about missing the point...The reality is that customer perception 
is important and if one advertises unlimited then the customer expects 
unlimited. These apps might impact customer satisfaction with your 
service and they will go elsewhere if they feel they are not getting 
the unlimited service they think they signed up for. At this point 
only time will tell how important such apps are to your customers. If 
one limits peer to peer traffic then these video on demand services 
will not work and since there is no way to tell if the content is 
legit or not it leaves the ISP between a rock and a hard place. The 
mis perception that all peer to peer traffic is illegal is one that 
has to be dealt with sooner or later. Looks to me like these apps 
might make it sooner. ;-)


Regards,
Dawn DiPietro

Mike Hammett wrote:

I think this was mainly attacking the Comcast, Verizon, ATT, etc. of 
the world.  We'd fit into the category of small ISP filling in the 
blanks.



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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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[WISPA] SBA Files comments

2007-05-28 Thread Peter R.

The SBA (Small Biz Admin) Office of Advocacy filed comments with the FCC 
about the rules of the 700 auction. (Docket 06-150) 
(www.sba.gov/advo/laws/comments/fcc07_0521.pdf)


revisions made to the FCC’s “designated entity” (“DE”) rules have 
encumbered small
business participation in auctions, we recommend that the FCC stay these 
rules for the 700 MHz

auction and rely instead upon the original DE rules.

Congress established the Office of Advocacy under Pub. L. 94-305 to 
represent the views
of small business before Federal agencies and Congress. Advocacy is an 
independent office
within the Small Business Administration (“SBA”), so the views expressed 
by Advocacy do not

necessarily reflect the views of the SBA or the Administration.

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Re: [WISPA] Interesting RUS info

2007-05-27 Thread Peter R.


D. Ryan Spott wrote:


The thing that gets me is that the group that has locked up funding in one
of the towns I am in.. and _I_ filled out my FCC form 477! 


ryan
 


Did they NOT fill out the 477?
You CAN petition the RUS administrator.
You can talk to your Congressional rep for help as well.

- Peter

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[WISPA] Google Auction Plan gets traction

2007-05-27 Thread Peter R.


http://www.cellular-news.com/story/23990.php

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[WISPA] 700 Auction

2007-05-24 Thread peter

Small telecom bidders ask court to void FCC spectrum auction

By Peg Brickley
Last Update: 4:14 PM ET May 23, 2007
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/small-telecom-bidders-ask-court/story.aspx?guid=%7B6F2B0C5B-209A-4DC3-87A3-CAB7A02B96B8%7D

http://tinyurl.com/2kdvam

Lawyers for small telecommunications bidders Wednesday asked a federal
appeals court in Philadelphia to throw out a $13.75 billion auction of
wireless spectrum on the grounds that last-minute changes made it
unfair.
Upsetting the August 2006 auction could turn the industry upside
down, said William Lake, attorney for T-Mobile USA, a subsidiary of
German telecommunications giant Deutsche Telekom AG , and for a trade
association of wireless carriers, Washington, D.C.-based CTIA-The
Wireless Association.
T-Mobile was the largest winner at the big auction under attack,
claiming $4.2 billion worth of the spectrum in a sale of public
airwaves long reserved for government and official uses.
The Third Circuit Court of Appeals must decide whether to overturn the
auction, and what to do about Federal Communications Commission rule
changes that kicked in just before the big sale. The decision could
also have an impact on the next big FCC auction, expected by January
2008, of 700 megahertz band spectrum that is expected to fetch up to
$15 billion.
The FCC defended its auction rule changes as the fair product of a
fair process. If the appeals court voids the rules on technical
grounds, the FCC will likely enact substantially the same rules again,
said Joseph Palmore, deputy general counsel for the FCC.
Dennis Corbett, lawyer for Council Tree Communications Inc. and two
other auction challengers, said the FCC rule changes, almost on the
eve of the auction, put a damper on his clients' chances in the bidding.
In one crucial change, the FCC doubled the length of time winning
bidders must hold their spectrum before selling it, pushing the exit
horizon to 10 years, which is longer than the venture capitalists who
finance small bidders like to hold their investments.

Corbett said the changes frightened off private equity investors.
What the agency did here, instead of being proactive and helping
small businesses, it dropped those pianos on their heads, Corbett said.
With no one to stake them to a seat at the auction table, small
bidders can't compete with telecommunications giants hungry for
spectrum, Corbett said.
When you go out to find capital, which is the hardest thing for a
small business, the investors need to know the rules of the road,
Corbett said. He said the FCC acted with illegal haste last year, and
that the auction should be unwound.
Judges on the three-member panel that will decide whether last year's
auction results stand or fall expressed concern about creating a major
disturbance in the telecommunications industry.
Nullifying the auction would be very disruptive, U.S. Court of
Appeals Judge Michael A. Chagares said.
However, Chagares suggested, vacating the FCC rule changes that small
bidders blamed for unfairness, a fix for future auctions, might be a
less drastic remedy.
Corbett, lawyer for the small bidders, said the court should get rid
of the new FCC rules in time for the next spectrum auction even if the
court decides there's nothing to be done about last year's auction.
The 700 megahertz is a huge auction of beachfront spectrum, he said.
These rules should not infect yet another auction. They're bad rules.
Get rid of them.
FCC attorney Palmore, however, warned that throwing out the rules
would make big trouble. It would throw into question and create
incredible uncertainty for future auctions, he said.
The appeals court did not say when it will issue a decision. The court
could uphold the rules and last year's auction, vacate either the
rules or the auction, or do nothing, bowing to an FCC argument the
appeal didn't come in time.
In addition to Council Tree Communications, Bethel Native Corp. and
the Minority Media and Telecommunications Council are challenging the
FCC.
As designated entities under rules designed to make sure
deep-pocketed telecommunications enterprises don't dominate auctions,
they are entitled to bidding credits to compensate for their financial
disadvantages. Such entities often sell off acquired spectrum rights
to help finance their telecommunications ventures.

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[WISPA] white space device

2007-05-24 Thread peter


White space device at FCC

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070522-new-superfast-wireless-broadband-device-prototype-submitted-to-fcc.html

While the Federal Communications Commission moves ahead with planning  
for the upcoming 700MHz spectrum auction, the White Space Coalition has
submitted a second prototype white space wireless broadband device to  
the FCC for testing. White space devices could use the so-called white  
space in the
current analog television spectrum (2MHz to 698MHz) to deliver  
wireless broadband service. Former FCC chief engineer Edmond Thomas  
(and current
technology policy advisor for the law firm of Harris, Wiltshire   
Grannis, which is representing the Coalition) told Ars that he  
believes white space broadband
could deliver download speeds of up to 80Mbps, which would make it  
extremely competitive with fiber-to-the-premises solutions like  
Verizon's FiOS networks.
The newest white space prototype is manufactured by Philips  
Electronics of North America and consists of a TV tuner, a digital  
processing board, and a PC
which provides the UI, control, and signal processing. It's  
proof-of-concept hardware intended to demonstrate that it's possible  
to sense the presence of TV
signals and transmit wireless IP data in a way that does not interfere  
with TV. According to an FCC filing seen by Ars Technica, the new  
prototype is capable
of picking up analog and digital television signals as well as  
wireless microphone signals (which operate in the same part of the  
spectrum). It works similarly
to the Microsoft-manufactured spectrum sensing device submitted  
earlier this year. Microsoft also submitted a transmission device to  
the FCC for testing
which will be used to show that white space broadband transmissions  
won't interfere with TV signals.


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[WISPA] ISPCON

2007-05-21 Thread Peter R.


For those attending ISPCON this week, there will be a dinner tonight (Tuesday) 
at 7:15 at Bahama Breeze on I-Drive.

Bahama Breeze 
8849 International Drive

Orlando, FL 32819-9320
407 248 2499
(map here:  http://tinyurl.com/2tgnhb)

On Wed. after the WISPA meeting, we will adjourning to Howl at the Moon, 
8815 International Dr

Orlando, FL 32819
(407) 354-5999
(map here: http://tinyurl.com/3awwlw)


RSVP so I have an idea how many. (11 for dinner so far).

Regards,

Peter Radizeski
RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
We Help ISPs Connect  Communicate
813.963.5884 = follow-me #
http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com


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Re: [WISPA] Dues Value was What is WISPA?


Chadd, Lonnie, and the rest,

It is obviously a sales issue: No one has sold you on the value of WISPA.

Or WISPA is not solving some pain you have.

How about you tell us what would be good value?
What specifically are you looking for the organization to do for you?

This is a good time (pre-election).

- Peter
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Re: [WISPA] Dues Value was What is WISPA?


Frank Muto wrote:

Now with those examples, the next issue you will get is the moans on 
what WISPA is doing with the money. Everyone will be on the bandwagon 
on what to do with the funding. So, unless the group matures and 
growth is established organically with the understanding that WISPs 
all WISPs must join together and show solidarity to those that they 
are working for, it does not matter what the cost is.


OH, MAN! is THAT true.  Even the ones who don't pay dues will be telling you 
how to spend it!

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Re: [WISPA] Raising the Broadband definition


Matt wrote:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070517-house-dems-broadband-isnt-broadband-unless-its-2-mbps.html 




Does that mean if we do not offer services of 2mbps or above we do not
have to be Calea compliant?  Great!

Matt


Only if it passes into law.
Otherwise the standing FCC definition is 200k minimum in one direction.

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[WISPA] NTIA?


Doesn't this sound like a mini FCC?
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/aboutntia/aboutntia.htm

About the NTIA 

The 
National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) is the 
President's principal adviser on telecommunications and information policy 
issues, and in this role frequently works with other Executive Branch agencies 
to develop and present the Administration's position on these issues. 



Since its creation in 1978, NTIA has been at the cutting edge of 
critical issues. 

In addition to representing the Executive Branch in 
both domestic and international telecommunications and information policy 
activities, NTIA also manages the Federal use of spectrum; performs cutting-edge 
telecommunications research and engineering, including resolving technical 
telecommunications issues for the Federal government and private sector; and 
administers infrastructure and public telecommunications facilities grants. 



The telecommunications and information revolution is bringing dramatic 
growth and change to the nation's economic, social, and political life. As a 
result, our fundamental mission is to promote market-based policies which lower 
prices to consumers and encourage innovation, while harnessing the resources of 
the Federal government to support spectrum-based technologies which enhance 
efficiency and productivity. 

*NTIA Line Offices 


*
The *Office of Spectrum 
Management http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/osmhome.html* (OSM) formulates and establishes plans and policies that 
ensure the effective, efficient, and equitable use of the spectrum both 
nationally and internationally. Through the development of long range spectrum 
plans, the OSM is prepared to address future Federal government spectrum 
requirements, including public safety operations and the coordination and 
registration of Federal government satellite networks. The OSM also satisfies 
the frequency assignment needs of the Federal agencies and provides spectrum 
certification for new Federal agency radio communication systems. 

The 
*Office of 
Policy Analysis and Development http://www.ntia.doc.gov/opadhome/opadhome.html* (OPAD) is the domestic policy 
division of the NTIA. OPAD supports NTIA's role as principal adviser to the 
Executive Branch and the Secretary of Commerce on telecommunications and 
information policies by conducting research and analysis and preparing policy 
recommendations. The domestic policy office generates policies that promote 
innovation, competition, and economic growth for the benefit of American 
businesses and consumers. 

The *Office of 
International Affairs* http://www.ntia.doc.gov/oiahome/oiahome.html (OIA) develops and implements policies to 
enhance U.S. companies' ability to compete globally in the information 
technology and communications (ICT) sectors. In consultation with other U.S. 
agencies and the U.S. private sector, OIA participates in international and 
regional fora to promote policies that open ICT markets and encourage 
competition. 

The *Institute 
for Telecommunication Sciences* http://www.its.bldrdoc.gov/ (ITS) is the research and 
engineering laboratory of the NTIA. ITS provides technical support to NTIA in 
advancing telecommunications and information infrastructure development, 
enhancing domestic competition, improving U.S. telecommunications trade 
opportunities, and promoting more efficient and effective use of the radio 
spectrum. ITS also serves as a principal Federal resource for investigating the 
telecommunications challenges of other Federal agencies, state and local 
governments, private corporations and associations, and international 
organizations. 

The *Office of 
Telecommunications and Information Applications* http://www.ntia.doc.gov/otiahome/otiahome.html (OTIA) administers 
two programs: the /*Technology 
Opportunities Program*/ http://www.ntia.doc.gov/top (TOP) and the /*Public Telecommunications Facilities 
Program http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ptfp*/ (PTFP). From 1994 to 2004, TOP provided matching 
grants to non-profit organizations and state and local governments across the 
United States to demonstrate innovative applications of advanced 
telecommunications and information technology. PTFP awards grants to public 
broadcasting and other noncommercial entities for the purchase of 
telecommunications equipment. 


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[WISPA] What is WISPA? was Promotion of services on-list


(In response to Lonnie and Mac)

1) It takes money for an organization to do things.
Sometimes vendors put up that money so that their customer base thrives. 
(Some times they do not).


2) It's always hard to get dues-paying members, especially when the most 
value is the listserv.
(Again, it ought to cost something to be here. If they want free, go to 
ISP-Wireless).


3) Be careful how you represent your relationship to vendors.
This is how one org received the reputation for being an RBOC tool.
You need a pro-member reputation.

4) That said, how many people on this list post more than once a week 
and are NOT members?

How many lurk - read every message - but aren't members?

5) Most here don't understand the energy, effort, time and money it 
takes to run an association.
If you give a hoot at all, you spend 2 to 5 hours daily on issues, 
messages, board and committee stuff.
Then travel to DC. Travel to some shows to get the WISPA name under the 
lights.

PR costs money, but to date are we doing any?
Rent, utilities and salary even for a part-time administrator would be 
$30K per year (if outsourced to a certified association management 
company).


6) The problem becomes when there are parties here who do not 100% agree 
with the direction of the org.
(And we have seen that problem recently). Unfortunately, the answer for 
those that do not whole-heartedly agree is to pack their stuff and 
leave. (Now that is real adult). This association is by and for the 
members -- to do everything to help you thrive and survive.  You as 
WISP's have responsibilities too - to comment, join, volunteer, steer, 
and row the boat. If you don't want to do any (some) of that, why get 
mad at the people and the direction? What did you do to steer?


[Note} And PLEASE don't give me the I'm-too-freaking-busy  or 
I'm-too-poor to help. That is an excuse. If you use excuses, then you 
might as well close shop now. Just fess up: I'm too selfish or It is 
easier to be a back seat driver. (As a back seat driver, you don't pay 
for gas, can point out all the short comings, and claim you weren't 
steering.)


7) If you are going to be in the Wireless Broadband Industry next year, 
join WISPA now. The more members, the more voice. Plus you get to vote 
for the new board.


7b) If you aren't going to join, and continue to be a free-loader, then 
don't complain that you don't like the direction. No potshots from the 
bleachers, okay?  If you don't like something, volunteer to work on it. 
Be a part of the Solution, not a piece of the problem.


Whew!

Now, go sign up a customer, so you can join WISPA, since one client will 
pay for your membership dues.


Peter Radizeski
RAD-INFO, Inc.

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Re: [WISPA] Promotion of services on-list


I think that WISPA does a great job policing its list.
It ain't easy -- and there are many shades of gray.

I for one think that you should have to pay 'something' to be involved 
on the lists.

Either actually $ or advice points. (Many other forums use this method).

Or have a fine for crossing the line. For instance, if Dee did cross the 
line, he is fined or bounced. To get back on, he has to join as a member.


I try not to use a sig file here. But then Patrick and a few others 
pointed out that without one, no branding - and people don't associate 
other stuff to the P.I.T.A. on the lists :)


Regards,

Peter Radizeski @ RAD-INFO, Inc.
http://4isps.com


Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

I hope that Dee does join as a vendor member.  I think that would be 
great. I also hope that Frank (and the other vendor members) can let 
this water run off his back.


I also think that WISPA really should do a better job of policing our 
lists. We now have enough vendor members that we're seeing some overlap 
and we have more responsibilities to them.


laters,
Marlon

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Re: [WISPA] What is WISPA? was Promotion of services on-list


You are comparing apples to grapes.
The telcos have an embedded base and have billions of dollars to force 
their issues.


FYI, the original order was in August 2005. So people actually had over 
1 year to get ready.

(timeline here: http://www.lasarletter.net/drupal/node/9)


Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:



The Telcos would never have sent a group and accepted an outcome like 
that.



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Re: [WISPA] What is WISPA? (CALEA timeline)


Sam Tetherow wrote:

I don't want to drag this topic up again, BUT ;)  Two years ago, did 
this apply to ISPs or just VOIP providers?  I don't remember anyone on 
the lists talking about CALEA being for anything other than VOICE in 
various forms, but maybe my memory is selective, wouldn't be the first 
and probably won't be the last time.



On March 10, 2004, DOJ filed a petition asking the Commission to declare 
that

broadband Internet access services and VoIP services are covered by CALEA.

It was a part of the original order:  
Adopted: August 5, 2005  Released: September 23, 2005

In May 2006, the second order was released answering specific questions.

- Peter
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Re: [WISPA] What is WISPA? was Promotion of services on-list


Okay. So we have two parties here.
Those that are loud and boisterous.
And the lurkers and people who think WISPA has veered the wrong way.

Well, elections are June 15.

Your candidates are here:  http://nominations.wispa.org/
Writing about what they see as the future.
Read it - and ask them questions.

Pick the board that will drive this bus where you want it to go.

Election rules are here:  http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=5

You may have to actually pay to vote, but at $25 per month, that's easy.

Regards,

Peter Radizeski
RAD-INFO, Inc.
(813) 963-5884
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[WISPA] Next gen of wi-fi is planned for summer


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070516/ap_on_hi_te/wi_fi_alliance_2;_ylt=AjCZXQffVxPE_rY5h5gTVTQE1vAI

The next generation of wireless Internet products certified by the Wi-Fi 
Alliance is expected to hit shelves this summer, even though a final 
standard for the technology isn't due for another year, the industry 
group says.


*http://tinyurl.com/32h2kg*

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Re: [WISPA] Wispa@ ISPCON


Sam,

Poolside, where? (What hotel are you at? Matt, where are you?)

AT Pointe Orlando that sounds like Adobe's, which I was recently told is 
not that nice.

Maybe Hooters at that same address or I'll find a couple of alternatives.

- Peter


Sam Tetherow wrote:


I get in just after noon so I'll be poolside sippin' mimosa's by then ;)

Did a little checking around and Pointe Orlando has a cantina and 
margarita bar which appears to have live music every night except 
tuesday, which is poker night.


   Sam Tetherow
   Sandhills Wireless

Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

Mac and I will be at the airport between 2pm and 3pm on Tuesday.   
Anyone who needs a ride, drop me an email and I'll see if we can 
squeeze you in.


There was a rumor that there may be a Geek Jam at a local bar 
sometime on Wednesday night, after the WISPA reception.  Will find 
out more details when we get there.


Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com



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Re: [WISPA] MTU BPL


Telkonet has an in-house BPL (isn't this like HPNA?) solution.

Now there is paint that can keep the RF from leaking outside the walls.

Zack Kneisley wrote:

If it was the article in Tessco Wireless Journal, it was 8-12 specs 
and one
test showed that the network in the apartment building was supporting 
speeds

of 15 Mbps Mind this is a distributor that sells the gear telling these
stories, so take it with a grain of salt.


On 5/16/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I have been against BPL due to RF pollution.  That said, a technical
evolution could resolve some of those issues.

I recently saw an article about Moto's MTU BPL solutions and was 
wondering
if anyone here has worked with them.  Does anyone else have a 
internal BPL
system (meaning not what the power company would use) that is of a 
higher

class than what you'd get at Best Buy?

I saw that some of that consumer gear would do 85 megs (really about
25).  That article said that the Moto gear does 8 - 12 megs, observed 
peak
of 25.  Is that sort of speed par for the course?  Is that per 
circuit or

gross?  8 megs to a whole building isn't much, though 8 megs to each is
attractive.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



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Re: [WISPA] online doc sharing


Would ThinkFree work?
http://online.thinkfree.com/

Or Talk Write
http://www.talkandwrite.com/english/index.php

Or Active Collab:
http://www.activecollab.com/

OpenOffice.org?

HyperOffice or Kimbra if anyone is using it.

BTW, these are great tools that you can offer your clients for stickiness.


Regards,

Peter Radizeski @ RAD-INFO, Inc.



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


Hi All,

The calea committee needs a way to share word docs online.  We need to 
be able to edit them etc. online so that our edits don't overlap or 
get left off.


We'd been using google docs but due to some new privacy requirements 
we're unable to do that now.  We have to have the same functionality 
on one of our servers.  Anyone know how to get one of the machines set 
up this way?


The doc needs to be stored on a secure password protected site.

thanks!
Marlon
(509) 982-2181
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 
1999!

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam


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Re: [WISPA] online doc sharing



I meant, Zimbra - Comcast is using it. (See here: 
http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2007/05/open-source-or-free-web-apps.html)


Dylan Bouterse wrote:


Kimbra?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] online doc sharing

Would ThinkFree work?
http://online.thinkfree.com/

Or Talk Write
http://www.talkandwrite.com/english/index.php

Or Active Collab:
http://www.activecollab.com/

OpenOffice.org?

HyperOffice or Kimbra if anyone is using it.

BTW, these are great tools that you can offer your clients for
stickiness.


Regards,

Peter Radizeski @ RAD-INFO, Inc.



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

 


Hi All,

The calea committee needs a way to share word docs online.  We need to 

be able to edit them etc. online so that our edits don't overlap or 
get left off.


We'd been using google docs but due to some new privacy requirements 
we're unable to do that now.  We have to have the same functionality 
on one of our servers.  Anyone know how to get one of the machines set up this way?


The doc needs to be stored on a secure password protected site.

thanks!
Marlon
   



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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email


George Rogato wrote:


David E. Smith wrote:


JohnnyO wrote:


Dee - that is just it though - The quotes you gave me as well as other
Barracuda owners, was about 3X the amount someone should be paying for
this type of service through a larger Web/Email hosting firm.




This is why I can't consider an outsourced email plan.

Aside from a couple thousand email accounts, I also offer imap and 
have an unlimited quota to quite a few subs that use their imap 
feature to hold emails or to send very large files.


Makes it hard when outsourced has these limits to work around.

But I'm sure there are many who could benefit from outsourced mail.

George


Do any of you offer Blackberry open source like open x-change or funambol?

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RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
We Help ISPs Connect  Communicate
813.963.5884 
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Re: [WISPA] online doc sharing