John J. Thomas wrote:
Cisco AP 1242 Radios have 5.4 GHz as an option in the current flash.
John
When we were at the fcc talking with Julius Knapp, he said there was a
couple manufacturers who have already certified 5.4 systems in the US.
Not sure why we never thought about Cisco.
Geor
Cisco AP 1242 Radios have 5.4 GHz as an option in the current flash.
John
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&
many of the geniuses who
built this stuff got their experience in the first place?
Thank You,
Brian Webster
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From: Matt Larsen - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 2:32 AM
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my own wisp!
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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:36 PM
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On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:58:02 -0800, Steve Stroh wrote
> Mark:
>
> But, the FACT of the matter is by slapping together that collection
> of pieces to make a radio that you will deploy for commercial,
> revenue service as a telecommunications service provider is ILLEGAL.
But Steve, many of thes
Mark:
But, the FACT of the matter is by slapping together that collection
of pieces to make a radio that you will deploy for commercial,
revenue service as a telecommunications service provider is ILLEGAL.
You make a compelling case that the "pieces parts" systems you're
describing are f
Hi,
The following question seems germaine to this thread.
Who would I talk to at the FCC about the following:
-- if I want to use equipment from an overseas-based manufacturer,
where would I go to or who could I talk to at the FCC to know
certification procedures, equipment allowed or not
] Following the FCC rules are now simply about
being"sticker conscious" or not??
You know Patrick, I for the most part have respect for you and your
opinion, but when it comes to this issue you are so blinded by it you
don't even stop to think about your reply.
I stated it that way
of the geniuses who
built this stuff got their experience in the first place?
Thank You,
Brian Webster
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I think everyone is missing the real problem with 5.4ghz.
How big of a piece of crap is our military radar that a $49 minipci
wireless card and a homemade pringles antenna can render it useless???
;^)
Matt Larsen
I think everyone is missing the real problem with 5.4ghz.
How big of a piece of crap is our military radar that a $49 minipci
wireless card and a homemade pringles antenna can render it useless???
;^)
Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com
J. Vogel wrote:
Fair enough. I might have been a little on
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules are now simply about
being"sticker conscious" or not??
You know Patrick, I for the most part have respect for you and your
opinion, but when it comes to this issue you are so blinded by it you
don't even stop to think about your reply.
I
How true, how true. It is just a question of how much regulation
Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless
Peter R. wrote:
wispa wrote:
Once we're a "regulated industry", and at this point the FCC and
Congress are SERIOUSLY attempting to take control the WISP and ISP
business, we exist, or
wispa wrote:
Once we're a "regulated industry", and at this point the FCC and Congress are
SERIOUSLY attempting to take control the WISP and ISP business, we exist, or
we do not exist, at the stroke of a pen, totally at the WHIM of someone who
neither knows, nor cares, whether we live or die,
You know Patrick, I for the most part have respect for you and your
opinion, but when it comes to this issue you are so blinded by it you
don't even stop to think about your reply.
I stated it that way because I have absolutely no idea if rabbtux
rabbtux is in the US or not. It is a gmail acco
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I was honestly not sure what
arman
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Hold your Horses there Sir Patrick! There was one comment that used that
in
their post - I don't think
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Great. I looke
Fair enough. I might have been a little on the touchy side myself there.
In the context of
what I had been reading, particularly a comment about how the use of 5.4
was going to
require someone to install another phone line just to handle complaints
from the DoD,
coupled with the current excitement
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:52:04 -0800, Patrick Leary wrote
> George, ones person's "innovation" is something that might another
> person nothing but migraines. If you think you getting cutting edge
> innovation and state of the art technology from the uncertified
> manufacturers I don't know what to t
On
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being"stickerconscious" or not??
Ho ho ho Patrick,
So, to add to the list of reasons why a lot of wisps use uncertified
gear.
On
I was honestly not sure what he was saying. For all I know he was saying
these are available in legal form at this price. I have heard they are
out there and that there are two which have been certified for legal use
in the Us but nobody has ever said what brand they are, who sells them,
what t
: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:17 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules are now simply about
being"stickerconscious" or not??
Hold your Horses there Sir Patrick! There was one comment that used
that
in
their post - I don't think that "
Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
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-snip-
That's not an argument that is credible today, with the range
from legal cheap to p
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> being"stickerco
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That's not an argument that is credible today, with the range
from legal cheap to premium CPE running from about $170 to sub-$300 --
that's cheap.
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Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:37 AM
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being"stickerconscious" or not??
I try to keep a low profile around here, you listen twice and speak
once. Wispa membership has bee
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:22:08 -0500, Peter R. wrote
> Many of you probably don't follow the FCC much, so let me tell you
> about the stroke of a pen:
>
> UNE-P which was the magic bullet for CLECs. No facilities needed.
> Rock bottom pricing on voice lines. Market and sell. Z-Tel and a few
> oth
No. I am saying anyone with an internet account, credit card and
shipping address could purchase 5.4ghz equipment TODAY and deploy it
TODAY. Granted its not FCC certified and not technically legal right
now... but, it could be done.
Travis
John Scrivner wrote:
Travis,
Are saying you are usi
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Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:17 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules are now simply about
being"stickerconscious" or not??
Hold your Horses there Sir Patrick! There was one comment that used that
in
their post - I d
erreaching comment from John Scrivner. Talk
about FUD.
Best,
Brad
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John,
Mayb
John,
Maybe I missed something, but how do you get from Travis' statement that
any user could do it, to questioning Travis as to whether that was a
claim to
have done it himself?
John Vogel
John Scrivner wrote:
>
> Travis,
> Are saying you are using 5.4 GHz radios in the US?
> Scriv
>
>
> Travis
Travis Johnson wrote:
Hi,
You make good points... however, the better question is how much money
did Z-Tel take out of the business during this time? I would bet the
owners and investors made BIG money during this time... so, so what if
they are out of business now? If they made millions dur
Travis,
Are saying you are using 5.4 GHz radios in the US?
Scriv
Travis Johnson wrote:
Hi,
You make good points... however, the better question is how much money
did Z-Tel take out of the business during this time? I would bet the
owners and investors made BIG money during this time... so,
Hi,
You make good points... however, the better question is how much money
did Z-Tel take out of the business during this time? I would bet the
owners and investors made BIG money during this time... so, so what if
they are out of business now? If they made millions during that time,
then it
Many of you probably don't follow the FCC much, so let me tell you about
the stroke of a pen:
UNE-P which was the magic bullet for CLECs. No facilities needed. Rock
bottom pricing on voice lines. Market and sell. Z-Tel and a few others
had over 500k lines. Unfortunately, they didn't listen whe
-snip-
That's not an argument that is credible today, with the range
from legal cheap to premium CPE running from about $170 to sub-$300 --
that's cheap.
-snip-
Patrick, your input on low cost 5.8 CPEs is appreciated. Please let
me know where I can purchase 5.8G CPEs at $170? We need to purchas
Steve, problem is not in Patricks message, for sure they are real and we
should be thankful that he wants to help.
Issue as I see it is, he dominates the list more than some care to read
as a vendor.
If he toned it down some, he would be doing himself justice.
Also,
Although Alvarion is a go
Your competitors thank you for ignoring some of the best gear on the
market.
I'm not an Alvarion proponent, or apologist. There's lots of other
good gear on the market that's the equal of Alvarion.
But in no other segment of the telecommunications industry are BASIC,
FUNDAMENTAL, CRITIC
Patrick,
Please just pick up the phone and contact the FCC yourself. Apply for
the job, get a shiny badge and go out on the range to take down all
of the Illegal wisps you see out there.
Every other email from you on this list (even when the thread starts
with someone asking for advice) e
Oh, let me add one thing though, the "members only" list is free of
vendors pitching their wares or bragging about their past or trying to
influence through propaganda..
Of course it's only open to paying WISPA members. But it is fairly private.
George
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rabbtux rabbtux wrote:
I try to keep a low profile around here, you listen twice and speak
once. Wispa membership has been a good experience for me. However,
Patrick has once again, been the HIGH & MiGHTY, and jumped all over my
one phrase. I did not mean to imply anything illegal about my i
I try to keep a low profile around here, you listen twice and speak
once. Wispa membership has been a good experience for me. However,
Patrick has once again, been the HIGH & MiGHTY, and jumped all over my
one phrase. I did not mean to imply anything illegal about my in
tensions, other than I m
Hold your Horses there Sir Patrick! There was one comment that used that in
their post - I don't think that "we" as an industry have evolved to that
level of degradation in dealing with the laws of the land & air. There will
always be renegades in every avenue of life, but "we" are not in that
clas
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