Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-05 Thread Kevin Sullivan
Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango > Exactly my point. It doesn't make sense that someone representing > Dragonwave would state this is a $5k repair, not saying it didn't happen, > just saying it doesn't make sense to me. Even Dr

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-04 Thread can...@believewireless.net
You got off cheap! Trango charged me $5000 to tell me we fried the replacement ODU unit they sent while repairing our IDU for a "coffee" spill. (Housed in a rack in our data center 10 ft in the air.) ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://l

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-04 Thread Scott Carullo
Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "John Seaman" Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:19 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango Hi all, I'll chime in here to clarify the point regarding TX Power. Trango offers high powe

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-03 Thread Kevin Owen
ireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango Hell, other vendors that have been in teh sapce a long time are just over that for the entire link (including dishe

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-03 Thread Mike Hammett
: Friday, November 2, 2012 1:20:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango Yikes, That doesn’t sound good from DragonWave’s perspective. At $5k, that is nearly the cost for the entire radio path, (not counting antennas, PONE, etc) Can’t imagine why they would charge such a price. Were you w

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Kevin Owen
do most of our DragonWave purchasing through Tessco. Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 11:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango We've used a few Trango, no SAF, an

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Kevin Sullivan
. I'd put them up like hotcakes if we could do 250mbps for $5k, installed. But, then, so would everyone else. Kevin - Original Message - From: Kevin Owen To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango At First Step

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread John Seaman
John Seaman Trango Systems, Inc. 858-248-4006 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 6:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango I beg to differ, they have

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Travis Johnson
HI, I have spoken to several other WISP's and when they actually compare the SAME radio from SAF to Trango (same power, same license keys, same dishes, etc.) then Trango is 99% of the time less expensive. Yes, it only has a 2 year warranty compared to 5 years, but that's the only difference.

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Chuck Hogg
I've had to do an RMA with SAF due to a Lightning Event. Unfortunately, the radio has to go to Latvia for repairs. The turn around was about 2 weeks. I have also done an advanced replacement RMA that took 2 days. Now, we buy extra units instead of advanced replacement. Regards, Chuck On Fri,

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Kevin Owen
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 6:49 AM To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango Why are you doing all new links with SAF is the question being asked here

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Josh Luthman
I'd rather the radio just stay working... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: > When I have priced them before, SAF was the same price as Trango with > their "standard power"... bu

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Bill Gaylord
That is where I am as well. Just stay working is the reason I am moving my most important ptp links to licensed. I have done the Ubnt and Mikrotik thing for backhauls and am sick of it. I want reliability, thus licensed. Thanks for all the great info. It is helping greatly. For those that

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Travis Johnson
When I have priced them before, SAF was the same price as Trango with their "standard power"... but when you increase to High Power then it's more expensive. And SAF's 5 year warranty is very cool... the bigger question with this type of radio is how quickly can they repair/replace the unit? I

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread can...@believewireless.net
I don't understand, SAF has a standard power version and a high power version. Cost difference isn't much. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Josh Luthman
I don't really care about weight either (though that does tend to show a better product in ATX power supplies). I am concerned about the wattage consumption and price. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:00 AM,

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Travis Johnson
I'm curious about that as well... I know "weight" is a big thing for Gino due to shipping... but I'm not sure I would be willing to give up the higher output and better receive levels for a couple extra pounds. Travis On 11/2/2012 7:49 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Why are you doing all new links wi

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Gino Villarini
-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango Feature key is NOT required on Trango for more power. All the radios are at full power regardless of the license key. Travis On 11/2/2012 6:53 AM

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Travis Johnson
ss-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Bill Gaylord > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 8:20 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango > > Can anyone help me out? We are in the process of deciding which company to > use for 6 licensed links. Both are similar in pr

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Travis Johnson
We have installed over 40 of the Trango links (in our network and for other companies). We install long links (some 18ghz links as far as 32 miles), so the higher power output and better receive is a big plus for us. Travis Microserv On 11/2/2012 6:20 AM, Bill Gaylord wrote: > Can anyone help m

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Gino Villarini
, November 02, 2012 8:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango Can anyone help me out? We are in the process of deciding which company to use for 6 licensed links. Both are similar in price/performance. Trango has more tx power and rx sensitivity, thus their antennas are

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Chuck Hogg
I have 3 SAF links...operating just fine. I know of others that have a lot of Trango links...operating just fine. I don't think you could go wrong with either one. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Bill Gaylord wrote: > Can anyone help me out? We are in the process of deciding

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread can...@believewireless.net
All things equal, SAF has a 5 year warranty and fantastic tech support. We have both Trango and SAF in our network and now all new links are SAF exclusively. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

[WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Bill Gaylord
Can anyone help me out? We are in the process of deciding which company to use for 6 licensed links. Both are similar in price/performance. Trango has more tx power and rx sensitivity, thus their antennas are smaller, which is a plus. I would like to know if anyone has any experiences with