subject:"RE\: \[WISPA\] Netflix"

Each level has higher requirements

1) Public Peer
2) Private Peer
3) Caching Server


There aren't any secrets. All of the information is on their web site.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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- Original Message -
From: Bryce Duchcherer bduc...@netago.ca
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:08:30 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Do you know anything about the caching server? 
Do they install that at the IX's or can you install that at your site when you 
peer?
It looks intriguing.

Bryce Duchcherer
NETAGO
bduc...@netago.ca



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Carlos Alcantar
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 6:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

+1 on this netflix super hd video can eat up some good amount of bw at
6/7mbps per flow for super hd.

Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com





-Original Message-
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Monday, June 10, 2013 2:43 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Anything the public peer accepts.



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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 4:41:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

You have to peer with them at 10g, right? Or do they have other options?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:09, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

 We are peering with them on the Telx TIE in Atlanta.
 (We are not only using this connection for our own network peering, 
but also have a few other ISP, which are interconnected, utilizing this 
peering connection... some in Atlanta, other in Miami)

 :)


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

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 From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:34:25 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

 Anyone been able to connect up with Netflix on this new platform?

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Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

2013-06-11 Thread Carlos Alcantar

Also note if you want to do the appliance you will have to be bgp capable
as well as be able to do a 5gbps fill rate for a min of 2 hrs to turn up
the unit.  At those rates your typically already in a IX that you can just
peer at the fabric.

https://netflix.hs.llnwd.net/e1/us/layout/signup/deviceinfo/OpenConnectDepl
oymentGuide-v2.4a.pdf

Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com





-Original Message-
From: Bryce Duchcherer bduc...@netago.ca
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 8:08 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Do you know anything about the caching server?
Do they install that at the IX's or can you install that at your site when
you peer?
It looks intriguing.

Bryce Duchcherer
NETAGO
bduc...@netago.ca



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Carlos Alcantar
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 6:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

+1 on this netflix super hd video can eat up some good amount of bw at
6/7mbps per flow for super hd.

Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com





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From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Monday, June 10, 2013 2:43 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Anything the public peer accepts.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -
From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 4:41:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

You have to peer with them at 10g, right? Or do they have other options?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:09, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

 We are peering with them on the Telx TIE in Atlanta.
 (We are not only using this connection for our own network peering,
but also have a few other ISP, which are interconnected, utilizing this
peering connection... some in Atlanta, other in Miami)

 :)


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

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 Subject: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

 Anyone been able to connect up with Netflix on this new platform?

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Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Sorry for the late reply.

We have a 1G connection to the TIE.
Peering with Netflix over a peering exchange does not have any traffic 
requirements.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

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From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:41:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

You have to peer with them at 10g, right? Or do they have other options?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:09, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

 We are peering with them on the Telx TIE in Atlanta.
 (We are not only using this connection for our own network peering, but also 
 have a few other ISP, which are interconnected, utilizing this peering 
 connection... some in Atlanta, other in Miami)

 :)


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:34:25 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

 Anyone been able to connect up with Netflix on this new platform?

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Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

2013-06-11 Thread mike

Faisal,

Do you just need to pay for the Cross Connect?

Open Connect requires 5 GB sustained from your AS's.

Regards
Michael Baird

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From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:59:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Sorry for the late reply.

We have a 1G connection to the TIE.
Peering with Netflix over a peering exchange does not have any traffic 
requirements.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

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From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:41:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

You have to peer with them at 10g, right? Or do they have other options?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:09, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

 We are peering with them on the Telx TIE in Atlanta.
 (We are not only using this connection for our own network peering, but also 
 have a few other ISP, which are interconnected, utilizing this peering 
 connection... some in Atlanta, other in Miami)

 :)


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:34:25 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

 Anyone been able to connect up with Netflix on this new platform?

 -mike

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Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Each facility will be different, but generally yes, you would pay for the cross 
connect. If you didn't meet the requirements for a private peer, then you would 
use a public peer and pay them whatever they want.

https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect/guidelines

General Requirements 1 - 6 are what apply. The next three are only if you want 
a private peer (direct connection to them, not through a general switching 
fabric. The server option only makes sense with 100,000 or more subscribers in 
a given market.



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From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:03:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Do you just need to pay for the Cross Connect?

Open Connect requires 5 GB sustained from your AS's.

Regards
Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:59:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Sorry for the late reply.

We have a 1G connection to the TIE.
Peering with Netflix over a peering exchange does not have any traffic 
requirements.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:41:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

You have to peer with them at 10g, right? Or do they have other options?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:09, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

 We are peering with them on the Telx TIE in Atlanta.
 (We are not only using this connection for our own network peering, but also 
 have a few other ISP, which are interconnected, utilizing this peering 
 connection... some in Atlanta, other in Miami)

 :)


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:34:25 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

 Anyone been able to connect up with Netflix on this new platform?

 -mike

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Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Let me take this into a greater amount of detail:-


There are 'Public Peering Exchanges', these are either operated by a 
ColoFacility Owner or an independent entity.

e.g. Telx (Telx Internet Exchange)  (http://tie.telx.com)
 Anyone can purchase a 1gig port or a 10gig port connection to the TIE Peering 
Fabric.
 There is a cost attached for this, and in case of Telx, it is paid to Telx.

Once one is connected to a Peering Fabric such as this on.. then one is free to 
peer with anyone who wishes to peer with them at this Peering Fabric.

Netflix, is present at a number of these peering points, and at these peering 
points, there is no minimum traffic level requirement from them
==

The other type of peering would be if one was to Build a transport  Connection 
to the Entity (Netflix e.g.), and have netflix allocate a port on their router, 
to have dedicated private peering.

This would need to be negotiated with them, and would very likely carry minimum 
traffic level requirement.

I believe this option is great if you are an isp utilizing 10g connections to 
the net.

For most of us, connecting via a Public Peering Exchange is the most 
economically feasible option.

Regards.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:03:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Do you just need to pay for the Cross Connect?

Open Connect requires 5 GB sustained from your AS's.

Regards
Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:59:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Sorry for the late reply.

We have a 1G connection to the TIE.
Peering with Netflix over a peering exchange does not have any traffic 
requirements.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:41:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

You have to peer with them at 10g, right? Or do they have other options?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:09, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

 We are peering with them on the Telx TIE in Atlanta.
 (We are not only using this connection for our own network peering, but also 
 have a few other ISP, which are interconnected, utilizing this peering 
 connection... some in Atlanta, other in Miami)

 :)


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:34:25 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

 Anyone been able to connect up with Netflix on this new platform?

 -mike

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Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

2013-06-11 Thread Joey Craig

If anyone is actually using this service, can your hit me offline at
joey.cr...@firenet1.com or give me a call at (662) 510-0764. My boss as well
as myself have a few questions about the service.

Joey Craig 
Network/RF Engineer
Firenet1.Com
Phone:  (662) 510-0764
Mobile: (662) 404-1118
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Let me take this into a greater amount of detail:-


There are 'Public Peering Exchanges', these are either operated by a
ColoFacility Owner or an independent entity.

e.g. Telx (Telx Internet Exchange)  (http://tie.telx.com)
 Anyone can purchase a 1gig port or a 10gig port connection to the TIE
Peering Fabric.
 There is a cost attached for this, and in case of Telx, it is paid to Telx.

Once one is connected to a Peering Fabric such as this on.. then one is free
to peer with anyone who wishes to peer with them at this Peering Fabric.

Netflix, is present at a number of these peering points, and at these
peering points, there is no minimum traffic level requirement from them
==

The other type of peering would be if one was to Build a transport
Connection to the Entity (Netflix e.g.), and have netflix allocate a port on
their router, to have dedicated private peering.

This would need to be negotiated with them, and would very likely carry
minimum traffic level requirement.

I believe this option is great if you are an isp utilizing 10g connections
to the net.

For most of us, connecting via a Public Peering Exchange is the most
economically feasible option.

Regards.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:03:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Do you just need to pay for the Cross Connect?

Open Connect requires 5 GB sustained from your AS's.

Regards
Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:59:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Sorry for the late reply.

We have a 1G connection to the TIE.
Peering with Netflix over a peering exchange does not have any traffic
requirements.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:41:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

You have to peer with them at 10g, right? Or do they have other options?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:09, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

 We are peering with them on the Telx TIE in Atlanta.
 (We are not only using this connection for our own network peering, but
also have a few other ISP, which are interconnected, utilizing this peering
connection... some in Atlanta, other in Miami)

 :)


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:34:25 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

 Anyone been able to connect up with Netflix on this new platform?

 -mike

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Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

2013-06-11 Thread mike

Faisal,

Are you sure? I have recently contacted Netflix about just such an arrangement, 
they require 2 GB/s as a minimum with a 10 GB interconnect. If you have a 
representative from Netflix who says different, please send it to me offlist, 
as we are very interested in peering with Netflix and have access to some of 
their listed peering points.

Regards
Michael Baird

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From: Joey Craig joey.cr...@firenet1.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:53:35 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

If anyone is actually using this service, can your hit me offline at
joey.cr...@firenet1.com or give me a call at (662) 510-0764. My boss as well
as myself have a few questions about the service.

Joey Craig 
Network/RF Engineer
Firenet1.Com
Phone:  (662) 510-0764
Mobile: (662) 404-1118
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Let me take this into a greater amount of detail:-


There are 'Public Peering Exchanges', these are either operated by a
ColoFacility Owner or an independent entity.

e.g. Telx (Telx Internet Exchange)  (http://tie.telx.com)
 Anyone can purchase a 1gig port or a 10gig port connection to the TIE
Peering Fabric.
 There is a cost attached for this, and in case of Telx, it is paid to Telx.

Once one is connected to a Peering Fabric such as this on.. then one is free
to peer with anyone who wishes to peer with them at this Peering Fabric.

Netflix, is present at a number of these peering points, and at these
peering points, there is no minimum traffic level requirement from them
==

The other type of peering would be if one was to Build a transport
Connection to the Entity (Netflix e.g.), and have netflix allocate a port on
their router, to have dedicated private peering.

This would need to be negotiated with them, and would very likely carry
minimum traffic level requirement.

I believe this option is great if you are an isp utilizing 10g connections
to the net.

For most of us, connecting via a Public Peering Exchange is the most
economically feasible option.

Regards.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:03:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Do you just need to pay for the Cross Connect?

Open Connect requires 5 GB sustained from your AS's.

Regards
Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:59:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Sorry for the late reply.

We have a 1G connection to the TIE.
Peering with Netflix over a peering exchange does not have any traffic
requirements.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:41:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

You have to peer with them at 10g, right? Or do they have other options?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:09, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

 We are peering with them on the Telx TIE in Atlanta.
 (We are not only using this connection for our own network peering, but
also have a few other ISP, which are interconnected, utilizing this peering
connection... some in Atlanta, other in Miami)

 :)


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:34:25 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

 Anyone been able to connect up with Netflix on this new platform?

 -mike

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Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Mike,
Feel free to call me .. it might be easier to discuss this on the phone.

(BTW, most of the Senior Network folks responsible for Netflix Peering hang out 
on the NANOG list)

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 5:00:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Are you sure? I have recently contacted Netflix about just such an arrangement, 
they require 2 GB/s as a minimum with a 10 GB interconnect. If you have a 
representative from Netflix who says different, please send it to me offlist, 
as we are very interested in peering with Netflix and have access to some of 
their listed peering points.

Regards
Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Joey Craig joey.cr...@firenet1.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:53:35 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

If anyone is actually using this service, can your hit me offline at
joey.cr...@firenet1.com or give me a call at (662) 510-0764. My boss as well
as myself have a few questions about the service.

Joey Craig 
Network/RF Engineer
Firenet1.Com
Phone:  (662) 510-0764
Mobile: (662) 404-1118
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Let me take this into a greater amount of detail:-


There are 'Public Peering Exchanges', these are either operated by a
ColoFacility Owner or an independent entity.

e.g. Telx (Telx Internet Exchange)  (http://tie.telx.com)
 Anyone can purchase a 1gig port or a 10gig port connection to the TIE
Peering Fabric.
 There is a cost attached for this, and in case of Telx, it is paid to Telx.

Once one is connected to a Peering Fabric such as this on.. then one is free
to peer with anyone who wishes to peer with them at this Peering Fabric.

Netflix, is present at a number of these peering points, and at these
peering points, there is no minimum traffic level requirement from them
==

The other type of peering would be if one was to Build a transport
Connection to the Entity (Netflix e.g.), and have netflix allocate a port on
their router, to have dedicated private peering.

This would need to be negotiated with them, and would very likely carry
minimum traffic level requirement.

I believe this option is great if you are an isp utilizing 10g connections
to the net.

For most of us, connecting via a Public Peering Exchange is the most
economically feasible option.

Regards.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:03:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Do you just need to pay for the Cross Connect?

Open Connect requires 5 GB sustained from your AS's.

Regards
Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:59:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Sorry for the late reply.

We have a 1G connection to the TIE.
Peering with Netflix over a peering exchange does not have any traffic
requirements.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:41:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

You have to peer with them at 10g, right? Or do they have other options?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:09, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

 We are peering with them on the Telx TIE in Atlanta.
 (We are not only using this connection for our own network peering, but
also have a few other ISP, which are interconnected, utilizing this peering
connection... some in Atlanta, other in Miami)

 :)


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:34:25 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

 Anyone been able to connect up with Netflix on this new platform?

 -mike

 Sent from my iPhone

Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

2013-06-11 Thread Carlos Alcantar

Faisal,

Your traffic looks similar to ours based on %'s.  Netflix and Akamai at
the top traffic list.

Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com





-Original Message-
From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:07 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

If you are talking about connecting via public peering..

Please see enclosed pdf...

Our traffic...

Hopefully this will answer some questions..

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 5:00:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Are you sure? I have recently contacted Netflix about just such an
arrangement, they require 2 GB/s as a minimum with a 10 GB interconnect.
If you have a representative from Netflix who says different, please send
it to me offlist, as we are very interested in peering with Netflix and
have access to some of their listed peering points.

Regards
Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Joey Craig joey.cr...@firenet1.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:53:35 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

If anyone is actually using this service, can your hit me offline at
joey.cr...@firenet1.com or give me a call at (662) 510-0764. My boss as
well
as myself have a few questions about the service.

Joey Craig 
Network/RF Engineer
Firenet1.Com
Phone:  (662) 510-0764
Mobile: (662) 404-1118
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Let me take this into a greater amount of detail:-


There are 'Public Peering Exchanges', these are either operated by a
ColoFacility Owner or an independent entity.

e.g. Telx (Telx Internet Exchange)  (http://tie.telx.com)
 Anyone can purchase a 1gig port or a 10gig port connection to the TIE
Peering Fabric.
 There is a cost attached for this, and in case of Telx, it is paid to
Telx.

Once one is connected to a Peering Fabric such as this on.. then one is
free
to peer with anyone who wishes to peer with them at this Peering Fabric.

Netflix, is present at a number of these peering points, and at these
peering points, there is no minimum traffic level requirement from them
==

The other type of peering would be if one was to Build a transport
Connection to the Entity (Netflix e.g.), and have netflix allocate a port
on
their router, to have dedicated private peering.

This would need to be negotiated with them, and would very likely carry
minimum traffic level requirement.

I believe this option is great if you are an isp utilizing 10g connections
to the net.

For most of us, connecting via a Public Peering Exchange is the most
economically feasible option.

Regards.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:03:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Do you just need to pay for the Cross Connect?

Open Connect requires 5 GB sustained from your AS's.

Regards
Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:59:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Sorry for the late reply.

We have a 1G connection to the TIE.
Peering with Netflix over a peering exchange does not have any traffic
requirements.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:41:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

You have to peer with them at 10g, right? Or do they have other options?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:09, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

 We are peering with them on the Telx TIE in Atlanta.
 (We are not only using this connection for our own network peering, but
also have a few other ISP, which are interconnected, utilizing this peering
connection... some in Atlanta, other in Miami

Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Yep ! it is nice to off load like this, for us, Netflix is very small, (most of 
our customers are business).
Bulk of the traffic you see on the chart, is for a couple of other ISP's that 
we are peering with in Miami... 


BTW... we are working on getting connected to the NOTA Peering Fabric in Miami 
too... that is a bit more expensive and challenging. However when costs are 
spread across a number of folks, they become rather palatable.

Last thing I was pushing for, was having the Google folks connect to the Route 
Servers are the Public Peering excahnges, so that smaller ISP's like us can 
take advantage of such an arrangement (i.e. no minimum traffic levels required).

The are internally discussing the possibility of doing so.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
From: Carlos Alcantar car...@race.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 5:23:08 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Your traffic looks similar to ours based on %'s.  Netflix and Akamai at
the top traffic list.

Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com





-Original Message-
From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:07 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

If you are talking about connecting via public peering..

Please see enclosed pdf...

Our traffic...

Hopefully this will answer some questions..

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 5:00:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Are you sure? I have recently contacted Netflix about just such an
arrangement, they require 2 GB/s as a minimum with a 10 GB interconnect.
If you have a representative from Netflix who says different, please send
it to me offlist, as we are very interested in peering with Netflix and
have access to some of their listed peering points.

Regards
Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Joey Craig joey.cr...@firenet1.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:53:35 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

If anyone is actually using this service, can your hit me offline at
joey.cr...@firenet1.com or give me a call at (662) 510-0764. My boss as
well
as myself have a few questions about the service.

Joey Craig 
Network/RF Engineer
Firenet1.Com
Phone:  (662) 510-0764
Mobile: (662) 404-1118
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Let me take this into a greater amount of detail:-


There are 'Public Peering Exchanges', these are either operated by a
ColoFacility Owner or an independent entity.

e.g. Telx (Telx Internet Exchange)  (http://tie.telx.com)
 Anyone can purchase a 1gig port or a 10gig port connection to the TIE
Peering Fabric.
 There is a cost attached for this, and in case of Telx, it is paid to
Telx.

Once one is connected to a Peering Fabric such as this on.. then one is
free
to peer with anyone who wishes to peer with them at this Peering Fabric.

Netflix, is present at a number of these peering points, and at these
peering points, there is no minimum traffic level requirement from them
==

The other type of peering would be if one was to Build a transport
Connection to the Entity (Netflix e.g.), and have netflix allocate a port
on
their router, to have dedicated private peering.

This would need to be negotiated with them, and would very likely carry
minimum traffic level requirement.

I believe this option is great if you are an isp utilizing 10g connections
to the net.

For most of us, connecting via a Public Peering Exchange is the most
economically feasible option.

Regards.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:03:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Do you just need to pay for the Cross Connect?

Open Connect requires 5 GB sustained from your AS's.

Regards
Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Faisal

Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Their own web site contradicts what you're saying.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -
From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:00:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Are you sure? I have recently contacted Netflix about just such an arrangement, 
they require 2 GB/s as a minimum with a 10 GB interconnect. If you have a 
representative from Netflix who says different, please send it to me offlist, 
as we are very interested in peering with Netflix and have access to some of 
their listed peering points.

Regards
Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Joey Craig joey.cr...@firenet1.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:53:35 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

If anyone is actually using this service, can your hit me offline at
joey.cr...@firenet1.com or give me a call at (662) 510-0764. My boss as well
as myself have a few questions about the service.

Joey Craig 
Network/RF Engineer
Firenet1.Com
Phone:  (662) 510-0764
Mobile: (662) 404-1118
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Let me take this into a greater amount of detail:-


There are 'Public Peering Exchanges', these are either operated by a
ColoFacility Owner or an independent entity.

e.g. Telx (Telx Internet Exchange)  (http://tie.telx.com)
 Anyone can purchase a 1gig port or a 10gig port connection to the TIE
Peering Fabric.
 There is a cost attached for this, and in case of Telx, it is paid to Telx.

Once one is connected to a Peering Fabric such as this on.. then one is free
to peer with anyone who wishes to peer with them at this Peering Fabric.

Netflix, is present at a number of these peering points, and at these
peering points, there is no minimum traffic level requirement from them
==

The other type of peering would be if one was to Build a transport
Connection to the Entity (Netflix e.g.), and have netflix allocate a port on
their router, to have dedicated private peering.

This would need to be negotiated with them, and would very likely carry
minimum traffic level requirement.

I believe this option is great if you are an isp utilizing 10g connections
to the net.

For most of us, connecting via a Public Peering Exchange is the most
economically feasible option.

Regards.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:03:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Do you just need to pay for the Cross Connect?

Open Connect requires 5 GB sustained from your AS's.

Regards
Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:59:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Sorry for the late reply.

We have a 1G connection to the TIE.
Peering with Netflix over a peering exchange does not have any traffic
requirements.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:41:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

You have to peer with them at 10g, right? Or do they have other options?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:09, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

 We are peering with them on the Telx TIE in Atlanta.
 (We are not only using this connection for our own network peering, but
also have a few other ISP, which are interconnected, utilizing this peering
connection... some in Atlanta, other in Miami)

 :)


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:34:25 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

 Anyone been able to connect up with Netflix on this new platform?

 -mike

 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

2013-06-11 Thread mike

From their site, I have also spoken to them via phone on both the box option 
within the network and the peering option.

https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect/guidelines

Interconnection(s) should occur in mutual locations with SMF 10Gb Ethernet 
interfaces.
At least 2 Gb/s of aggregate IPv4 traffic, measured using 95th Percentile in 
either direction, must be exchanged on an ongoing basis.
Each interconnection shall have no less than 10 Gb/s of capacity.

Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 6:04:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Their own web site contradicts what you're saying.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -
From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:00:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Are you sure? I have recently contacted Netflix about just such an arrangement, 
they require 2 GB/s as a minimum with a 10 GB interconnect. If you have a 
representative from Netflix who says different, please send it to me offlist, 
as we are very interested in peering with Netflix and have access to some of 
their listed peering points.

Regards
Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Joey Craig joey.cr...@firenet1.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:53:35 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

If anyone is actually using this service, can your hit me offline at
joey.cr...@firenet1.com or give me a call at (662) 510-0764. My boss as well
as myself have a few questions about the service.

Joey Craig 
Network/RF Engineer
Firenet1.Com
Phone:  (662) 510-0764
Mobile: (662) 404-1118
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Let me take this into a greater amount of detail:-


There are 'Public Peering Exchanges', these are either operated by a
ColoFacility Owner or an independent entity.

e.g. Telx (Telx Internet Exchange)  (http://tie.telx.com)
 Anyone can purchase a 1gig port or a 10gig port connection to the TIE
Peering Fabric.
 There is a cost attached for this, and in case of Telx, it is paid to Telx.

Once one is connected to a Peering Fabric such as this on.. then one is free
to peer with anyone who wishes to peer with them at this Peering Fabric.

Netflix, is present at a number of these peering points, and at these
peering points, there is no minimum traffic level requirement from them
==

The other type of peering would be if one was to Build a transport
Connection to the Entity (Netflix e.g.), and have netflix allocate a port on
their router, to have dedicated private peering.

This would need to be negotiated with them, and would very likely carry
minimum traffic level requirement.

I believe this option is great if you are an isp utilizing 10g connections
to the net.

For most of us, connecting via a Public Peering Exchange is the most
economically feasible option.

Regards.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:03:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Do you just need to pay for the Cross Connect?

Open Connect requires 5 GB sustained from your AS's.

Regards
Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:59:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Sorry for the late reply.

We have a 1G connection to the TIE.
Peering with Netflix over a peering exchange does not have any traffic
requirements.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:41:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

You have to peer with them at 10g, right? Or do they have other options?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:09, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

 We are peering with them on the Telx TIE in Atlanta.
 (We are not only using this connection for our own network peering, but
also have a few other ISP, which are interconnected, utilizing this peering
connection... some in Atlanta, other in Miami)

 :)


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy

Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

2013-06-11 Thread Carlos Alcantar

I believe if your asking netflix to use a dedicated port on there router
for your 10g interconnect they will want some minimums.  If you peer with
them on a public IX eg. TelX/Any2/Equinix I'M sure they will not care
about the traffic amount.

Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com





-Original Message-
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:04 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Their own web site contradicts what you're saying.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -
From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:00:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Are you sure? I have recently contacted Netflix about just such an
arrangement, they require 2 GB/s as a minimum with a 10 GB interconnect.
If you have a representative from Netflix who says different, please send
it to me offlist, as we are very interested in peering with Netflix and
have access to some of their listed peering points.

Regards
Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Joey Craig joey.cr...@firenet1.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:53:35 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

If anyone is actually using this service, can your hit me offline at
joey.cr...@firenet1.com or give me a call at (662) 510-0764. My boss as
well
as myself have a few questions about the service.

Joey Craig 
Network/RF Engineer
Firenet1.Com
Phone:  (662) 510-0764
Mobile: (662) 404-1118
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Let me take this into a greater amount of detail:-


There are 'Public Peering Exchanges', these are either operated by a
ColoFacility Owner or an independent entity.

e.g. Telx (Telx Internet Exchange)  (http://tie.telx.com)
 Anyone can purchase a 1gig port or a 10gig port connection to the TIE
Peering Fabric.
 There is a cost attached for this, and in case of Telx, it is paid to
Telx.

Once one is connected to a Peering Fabric such as this on.. then one is
free
to peer with anyone who wishes to peer with them at this Peering Fabric.

Netflix, is present at a number of these peering points, and at these
peering points, there is no minimum traffic level requirement from them
==

The other type of peering would be if one was to Build a transport
Connection to the Entity (Netflix e.g.), and have netflix allocate a port
on
their router, to have dedicated private peering.

This would need to be negotiated with them, and would very likely carry
minimum traffic level requirement.

I believe this option is great if you are an isp utilizing 10g connections
to the net.

For most of us, connecting via a Public Peering Exchange is the most
economically feasible option.

Regards.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:03:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Do you just need to pay for the Cross Connect?

Open Connect requires 5 GB sustained from your AS's.

Regards
Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:59:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Sorry for the late reply.

We have a 1G connection to the TIE.
Peering with Netflix over a peering exchange does not have any traffic
requirements.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:41:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

You have to peer with them at 10g, right? Or do they have other options?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:09, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

 We are peering with them on the Telx TIE in Atlanta.
 (We are not only using this connection for our own network peering, but
also have a few other ISP, which are interconnected, utilizing this peering
connection... some in Atlanta, other in Miami)

 :)


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48

Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

What's the heading you're reading? That's for a private peer. You only do those 
if A) you meet their requirements and B) your public peering connections are 
full. Otherwise, you just use public peering.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -
From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 6:30:23 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

From their site, I have also spoken to them via phone on both the box option 
within the network and the peering option.

https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect/guidelines

Interconnection(s) should occur in mutual locations with SMF 10Gb Ethernet 
interfaces.
At least 2 Gb/s of aggregate IPv4 traffic, measured using 95th Percentile in 
either direction, must be exchanged on an ongoing basis.
Each interconnection shall have no less than 10 Gb/s of capacity.

Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 6:04:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Their own web site contradicts what you're saying.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -
From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:00:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Are you sure? I have recently contacted Netflix about just such an arrangement, 
they require 2 GB/s as a minimum with a 10 GB interconnect. If you have a 
representative from Netflix who says different, please send it to me offlist, 
as we are very interested in peering with Netflix and have access to some of 
their listed peering points.

Regards
Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Joey Craig joey.cr...@firenet1.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:53:35 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

If anyone is actually using this service, can your hit me offline at
joey.cr...@firenet1.com or give me a call at (662) 510-0764. My boss as well
as myself have a few questions about the service.

Joey Craig 
Network/RF Engineer
Firenet1.Com
Phone:  (662) 510-0764
Mobile: (662) 404-1118
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Let me take this into a greater amount of detail:-


There are 'Public Peering Exchanges', these are either operated by a
ColoFacility Owner or an independent entity.

e.g. Telx (Telx Internet Exchange)  (http://tie.telx.com)
 Anyone can purchase a 1gig port or a 10gig port connection to the TIE
Peering Fabric.
 There is a cost attached for this, and in case of Telx, it is paid to Telx.

Once one is connected to a Peering Fabric such as this on.. then one is free
to peer with anyone who wishes to peer with them at this Peering Fabric.

Netflix, is present at a number of these peering points, and at these
peering points, there is no minimum traffic level requirement from them
==

The other type of peering would be if one was to Build a transport
Connection to the Entity (Netflix e.g.), and have netflix allocate a port on
their router, to have dedicated private peering.

This would need to be negotiated with them, and would very likely carry
minimum traffic level requirement.

I believe this option is great if you are an isp utilizing 10g connections
to the net.

For most of us, connecting via a Public Peering Exchange is the most
economically feasible option.

Regards.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
From: m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:03:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Faisal,

Do you just need to pay for the Cross Connect?

Open Connect requires 5 GB sustained from your AS's.

Regards
Michael Baird

- Original Message -
From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:59:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

Sorry for the late reply.

We have a 1G connection to the TIE.
Peering with Netflix over a peering exchange does not have any traffic
requirements.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:41:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open

Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

2013-06-10 Thread Mike Hammett

Anything the public peer accepts.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -
From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 4:41:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

You have to peer with them at 10g, right? Or do they have other options?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:09, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

 We are peering with them on the Telx TIE in Atlanta.
 (We are not only using this connection for our own network peering, but also 
 have a few other ISP, which are interconnected, utilizing this peering 
 connection... some in Atlanta, other in Miami)

 :)


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:34:25 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

 Anyone been able to connect up with Netflix on this new platform?

 -mike

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Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

2013-06-10 Thread Mike Lyon

You have to peer with them at 10g, right? Or do they have other options?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:09, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

 We are peering with them on the Telx TIE in Atlanta.
 (We are not only using this connection for our own network peering, but also 
 have a few other ISP, which are interconnected, utilizing this peering 
 connection... some in Atlanta, other in Miami)

 :)


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:34:25 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

 Anyone been able to connect up with Netflix on this new platform?

 -mike

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Re: [WISPA] Netflix to offer free caches to ISPs

2012-06-06 Thread Jon Auer

Doesn't really affect me because the bandwidth crunch is at the last
mile link to the customer.
That said, we do ~30Mbps of Akamai traffic over peering and every meg
we don't have to pay for is nice.
The trick to getting CDN stuff when you have low traffic volumes is
wait for someone big (huge university, for example) to get it and then
peer with them.

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Shaddi Hasan sha...@cs.berkeley.edu wrote:
 I just came across this article on Netflix's plans to start running
 their own CDN. They're going to be offering free peering at a few
 IXPs, and are offering free cache appliances for ISPs with large
 amounts of traffic.

 http://blog.streamingmedia.com/the_business_of_online_vi/2012/06/netflix-announces-new-content-delivery-network-offering-free-caches-to-isps.html

 More information from Netflix itself is here:
 https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect

 Does anyone here plan to pursue this? How much would something like
 this actually resolve your Netflix issues, or is the bottleneck inside
 your network rather than at the access link?
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Re: [WISPA] Netflix to offer free caches to ISPs

2012-06-05 Thread Darin Steffl

They require at least 2Gbps of Netflix traffic across your network at all
time and require you connect the box to a 10Gbps port to our network. I
really doubt there are many WISP's out there running this much Netflix
traffic at one time. A few but nowhere near the majority. Also, for many of
us, this probably isn't the problem of running out of internet transit but
rather having AP's at capacity for which this would not solve at all.

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Shaddi Hasan sha...@cs.berkeley.eduwrote:

 I just came across this article on Netflix's plans to start running
 their own CDN. They're going to be offering free peering at a few
 IXPs, and are offering free cache appliances for ISPs with large
 amounts of traffic.


 http://blog.streamingmedia.com/the_business_of_online_vi/2012/06/netflix-announces-new-content-delivery-network-offering-free-caches-to-isps.html

 More information from Netflix itself is here:
 https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect

 Does anyone here plan to pursue this? How much would something like
 this actually resolve your Netflix issues, or is the bottleneck inside
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Re: [WISPA] Netflix to offer free caches to ISPs

2012-06-05 Thread Doug Clark

I agree.  The problem is not the bandwidth from my headend, it is the last
mile which is killing the deal for me.  This whole streaming video over the
Internet
thing is absolutely insane!  With a bird (satellite) I can deliver content
to 280 million people with just 6 gigs worth of data transfer.  If I do the
same across the
Internet it will take 1.5279510989 zettabytes  Talk about total
inefficiency! 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Darin Steffl
Date: 6/5/2012 9:22:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix to offer free caches to ISPs
 
They require at least 2Gbps of Netflix traffic across your network at all
time and require you connect the box to a 10Gbps port to our network. I
really doubt there are many WISP's out there running this much Netflix
traffic at one time. A few but nowhere near the majority. Also, for many of
us, this probably isn't the problem of running out of internet transit but
rather having AP's at capacity for which this would not solve at all.


On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Shaddi Hasan sha...@cs.berkeley.edu
wrote:

I just came across this article on Netflix's plans to start running
their own CDN. They're going to be offering free peering at a few
IXPs, and are offering free cache appliances for ISPs with large
amounts of traffic.

http://blog.streamingmedia
com/the_business_of_online_vi/2012/06/netflix-announces-new-content-delivery-
etwork-offering-free-caches-to-isps.html

More information from Netflix itself is here:
https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect

Does anyone here plan to pursue this? How much would something like
this actually resolve your Netflix issues, or is the bottleneck inside
your network rather than at the access link?
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Re: [WISPA] Netflix to offer free caches to ISPs

2012-06-05 Thread Travis Johnson

The internet is free... don't you know that yet Doug? :)

Travis
Microserv

On 6/5/2012 9:43 AM, Doug Clark wrote:
I agree. The problem is not the bandwidth from my headend, it is the
last mile which is killing the deal for me. This whole streaming
video over the Internet
thing is absolutely insane! With a bird (satellite) I can deliver
content to 280 million people with just 6 gigs worth of data
transfer. If I do the same across the
Internet it will take 1.5279510989 zettabytes Talk about total
inefficiency!

/---Original Message---/
/*From:*/ Darin Steffl mailto:dcsho...@gmail.com
/*Date:*/ 6/5/2012 9:22:49 AM
/*To:*/ WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
/*Subject:*/ Re: [WISPA] Netflix to offer free caches to ISPs
They require at least 2Gbps of Netflix traffic across your network at
all time and require you connect the box to a 10Gbps port to our
network. I really doubt there are many WISP's out there running this
much Netflix traffic at one time. A few but nowhere near the majority.
Also, for many of us, this probably isn't the problem of running out
of internet transit but rather having AP's at capacity for which this
would not solve at all.

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Shaddi Hasan sha...@cs.berkeley.edu
mailto:sha...@cs.berkeley.edu wrote:

I just came across this article on Netflix's plans to start running
their own CDN. They're going to be offering free peering at a few
IXPs, and are offering free cache appliances for ISPs with large
amounts of traffic.

http://blog.streamingmedia.com/the_business_of_online_vi/2012/06/netflix-announces-new-content-delivery-network-offering-free-caches-to-isps.html

More information from Netflix itself is here:
https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect

Does anyone here plan to pursue this? How much would something like
this actually resolve your Netflix issues, or is the bottleneck inside
your network rather than at the access link?
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Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hulu, etc. The way forward..

I already use VoIP on my iPhone on 3G. That way I give out that number instead 
of my real cell phone number. 

Sent from my iPhone4

On Jan 27, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote:

 I keep seeing complaints from operators talking about the woes of
 Netflix breaking business models etc.
 
 From certain comments I've seen, many of you seem to be looking at
 this wrong. No-one should ever have sold unlimited data. Unlimited
 data pricing is like T1 or T3 pricing. You can't get unlimited
 broadband for $50/mo. This was destined to fail from the beginning.
 
 Anyone who couldn't see TV ever going over Internet lines was blind.
 And we're only seeing the early beginnings of it. There's going to be
 more and more HD stuff.
 
 Netflix hasn't broken anything. People's service plans were already
 broken. You were selling stuff you couldn't provide. You were
 effectively selling T1 lines for $50/mo. Bandwidth usage was always
 going to go up. Weather it's Netflix or something else. It was only
 time before your business model would fail. We have had bandwidth
 limits posted on our website since 2007.
 
 http://g5i.net/internet.php
 
 People are now starting to hit them. The limits are fairly high. We
 have about 5 or 6 people out of 300 who are hitting them each month
 now. We're going to start throttling to 256k when the cap is met. That
 way they can still do general Internet stuff, without being able to
 watch video. And they can call up and pay extra in 10Gb increments to
 get their high speed back.
 
 At the end of the day people, you are paid to provide an Internet
 connection. Be that to Netflix or Hulu or be that just for email. Sell
 something that you are able to provide.
 
 Take advantage of the situation. I'm getting more and more people
 signing up for my $80/mo package. That means more revenue so I can buy
 more bandwidth. We're trying to accommodate online video as best we
 can.
 
 Don't get me wrong, the sudden leap in bandwidth usage has caught me
 without enough bandwidth. But it hasn't broken my business model...
 yet.
 
 I have seen people talking about triple play. I don't think that's the
 way forward. I think the cell companies are eventually going to have
 to become dumb pipes, and sell just mobile broadband. People will use
 VoIP instead of voice minutes.
 
 Be a dumb pipe, and offer VoIP, also. Let people get their video
 content from online providers. I think this is the way forward.
 
 Thanks,
 Roger
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hulu, etc. The way forward..

I am on the other side of this.  I am in an area with cable, dsl, and fiber.
 My lowest plan is 79.99 which is priced the same as my competition.  People
leave comcast because of the service.  They leave dsl because it is slow.
 When my competition starts pricing their plans with caps I will follow
suit.  Until then I use Butch's QOS and the wimax QOS to shape traffic to
give the customer the best possible experience.  We are going to have to
evolve and grow to meet customer need and expectation to continue to evolve.
 That includes staying on top of technology.  I am already planning an LTE
trial this summer that will hopefully allow me to provide what is needed for
a couple more years.  I feel that this will go the way of the
computerevery few years you may have to scrap everything and start
overor add new equipment to existing infrastructure and sell higher
speed plans to the people that want it.  Comcast is already rolling out 50
and 100 meg plans here.

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote:

 I keep seeing complaints from operators talking about the woes of
 Netflix breaking business models etc.

 From certain comments I've seen, many of you seem to be looking at
 this wrong. No-one should ever have sold unlimited data. Unlimited
 data pricing is like T1 or T3 pricing. You can't get unlimited
 broadband for $50/mo. This was destined to fail from the beginning.

 Anyone who couldn't see TV ever going over Internet lines was blind.
 And we're only seeing the early beginnings of it. There's going to be
 more and more HD stuff.

 Netflix hasn't broken anything. People's service plans were already
 broken. You were selling stuff you couldn't provide. You were
 effectively selling T1 lines for $50/mo. Bandwidth usage was always
 going to go up. Weather it's Netflix or something else. It was only
 time before your business model would fail. We have had bandwidth
 limits posted on our website since 2007.

 http://g5i.net/internet.php

 People are now starting to hit them. The limits are fairly high. We
 have about 5 or 6 people out of 300 who are hitting them each month
 now. We're going to start throttling to 256k when the cap is met. That
 way they can still do general Internet stuff, without being able to
 watch video. And they can call up and pay extra in 10Gb increments to
 get their high speed back.

 At the end of the day people, you are paid to provide an Internet
 connection. Be that to Netflix or Hulu or be that just for email. Sell
 something that you are able to provide.

 Take advantage of the situation. I'm getting more and more people
 signing up for my $80/mo package. That means more revenue so I can buy
 more bandwidth. We're trying to accommodate online video as best we
 can.

 Don't get me wrong, the sudden leap in bandwidth usage has caught me
 without enough bandwidth. But it hasn't broken my business model...
 yet.

 I have seen people talking about triple play. I don't think that's the
 way forward. I think the cell companies are eventually going to have
 to become dumb pipes, and sell just mobile broadband. People will use
 VoIP instead of voice minutes.

 Be a dumb pipe, and offer VoIP, also. Let people get their video
 content from online providers. I think this is the way forward.

 Thanks,
 Roger



 
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Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hulu, etc. The way forward..

2011-01-27 Thread Roger Howard

Doesn't that eat up your battery having to maintain a 3G connection in
order to receive VoIP calls? Which software do you use?

Thanks,
Roger

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I already use VoIP on my iPhone on 3G. That way I give out that number 
 instead of my real cell phone number.

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Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hulu, etc. The way forward..

Nimbuz or fring. I don't see any additional battery drain. I don't keep it up 
after I sign in. When I hve an incoming call it pops up like a text message. 

Sent from my iPhone4

On Jan 27, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote:

 Doesn't that eat up your battery having to maintain a 3G connection in
 order to receive VoIP calls? Which software do you use?
 
 Thanks,
 Roger
 
 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I already use VoIP on my iPhone on 3G. That way I give out that number 
 instead of my real cell phone number.
 
 Sent from my iPhone4
 
 
 
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