I sincerely believe that this is one area if the WISP's worked together
and also used some outside the box thinking, can really benefit each
other and their businesses.
There is no clear cut solution that works for each and everyone.
However there are a series of options to explore...
Folks pa
You guys have it all wrong IMO and should be counting your blessings that
$1000 T1's still exist out there. Those are the areas a WISP can excel by
offering a better valued service. Once all the $1000 T1's go away so will
the little guys...YOU!
Location - Location - Location
Absolutely location
Idaho isn't exactly a booming metropolis.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 9/2/2010 11:16 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote:
Consider yourself lucky...in the REAL rural areas we pay over
$1000/mth for 6 meg connections.
Scott
- Original Message ---
I've been beating that drum for years, Faisal. Most don't want to
hear it and would rather keep crying. I've only found a couple that
truly have limited options.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 9/3/2010 5:04 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> I sincerel
Mike,
Keep beating the drum, maybe sooner than later it will sink in.
FWIW, we have been doing this with a few of other Wireline ISP's as
well I myself am sharing into circuits / IP transit contract held by
other ISP's and also have others sharing into circuits that I have the
contract for.
Faisal-
I'm working to organize group-buys of transit out of my own internet backwater.
I'm curious as to what (if any) legal entity was formed/used to engage in
business with carriers.
Any input is appreciated.
Ryan
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wir
Er, small clarification. Transport. Transit is straightforward once out of
here (130 miles to carrier hotel).
Ryan
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Ryan Goldberg
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 6:57 AM
> To: '
If Hunter Newbie doesn't botch the Allied Fiber project, that should
open up a lot of opportunity for WISPs within earshot of their fiber.
They're planning on having a ring circling the US. The next leg will be
going from Ashburn down to Miami.
I'm trying to get WISPs all along the routes t
There are many ways to do this, which one is best, really depends on the
'Trust Level' in the group. I have found that it is easier to develop
trust on a one on one basis, ( I trust you , and you trust John, so by
the virtue of my trust in you, I can trust John...etc).Sometimes doing
things at
Cool, that is good info..
Here is what is going on in the ILEC land... They are getting ready to
really turn up the heat on all of the CLEC's / WholeSale Customers /
ISP's and ALL OTHER Smaller / Weaker Entities...
Their method of doing this is by, removing backend resources which are
necessa
Cogent has a colo facility in Jackson MS that is about 100 miles away from me
on I20. How do I locate these alternate transit providers.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:16 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> There are many ways to do this, which one is best, really depends on the
> 'Trust Le
I would suggest some of the following as starting points...
1. See if your local power company has an affiliated fiber transport
provider.
2. Check with local county / permitting department to see who if any
took out right of way permits for Fiber installs.
3. Who is your local Cable Company ?
Pricing here is what I think is competitive. 100meg for 2800.00 but I am
looking for a second connection so it never hurts.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:55 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> I would suggest some of the following as starting points...
>
> 1. See if your local power compan
Sorry / forgot to say.. Total $ wise you are falling into the range
where your savings are not necessarily going to be in form of a reduced
monthly bill.. but more like you could get twice the amount of bandwidth
for the same spending ...
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
On 9/3/2010 9:
More for the same is just like a savings.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 3, 2010, at 8:18 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> Sorry / forgot to say.. Total $ wise you are falling into the range
> where your savings are not necessarily going to be in form of a reduced
> monthly bill.. but more like you co
I assume you are meaning the Mississippi Telcom center at 111 East
Capitol? (800) 354-7695 is the number I have for them.
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Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support
From: Jer
We have a Motorola PTP600 link that is not getting the capacity we
think it should and I am looking for some troubleshooting advice. Here
are the details.
Software Version: 58600-08-03
Distance: 18.5 miles
RSSI: -57 dBm
Vector Error: -14.9 dB
Transmit Rate: 20M
Receive Rate: 10M
Transmit Modulatio
Screen shot of Spectrum Analizer Page?
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Eric Merkel
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:18 AM
To: wireles
Eric,
The BER issue is probably killing you. It could be the result of a
cable issue, feed horn, interference, bad receiver, bad transmitter. If
the radio is stuck at 16 QAM then you are probably getting the
appropriate throughput for that modulation.
You should be able to do higher modulati
Usually, this is caused by interference. We generally use the High
Performance dishes on these links with great results. What size
antennas (ft, db) are you using on both ends?
Screen shot of the Spec Analyzer would really be helpful.
Marco
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Eric Merkel wrote:
>
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Bob Moldashel wrote:
> Eric,
>
> The BER issue is probably killing you. It could be the result of a
> cable issue, feed horn, interference, bad receiver, bad transmitter. If
> the radio is stuck at 16 QAM then you are probably getting the
> appropriate throughput
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Marco Coelho wrote:
> Usually, this is caused by interference. We generally use the High
> Performance dishes on these links with great results. What size
> antennas (ft, db) are you using on both ends?
>
> Screen shot of the Spec Analyzer would really be helpful
Your other end is getting hammered at 5772 with a -60 interference. I
would rcommend changing to 15 mhz channels, we usually get more BW on
smaller channels
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.o
Well, isn't the radio receiving on the "clean" channel?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 9/3/2010 9:38 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> Your other end is getting hammered at 5772 with a -60 interference. I
> would rcommend changing to 15 mhz channels, we
We have pulled some equipment from our towers. All equipment is in good
working order and less than 2 years old. If anyone is interested hit me
offlist.
7 chasis mount 900mhz alvarion units (the 3 Meg version)
2 Alvarion chasis
2 alvarion gps sync units
3 alvarion chasis mount ac power supp
Peer receive is not good
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:40 AM
To: WISPA General List
Su
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> Your other end is getting hammered at 5772 with a -60 interference. I
> would rcommend changing to 15 mhz channels, we usually get more BW on
> smaller channels
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
Both, you need to run the install wizard on both ends
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eric Merkel
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:52
I'm talking to a WISP that's sort of in the middle of a dark fiber
route from Denver to Chicago. mostly along I-80.
Again, I don't have any financial interest in this, just helping fellow
WISPs cut out the middle man and get cheaper Internet.
--
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Sol
We have the same issue with ATT/Qwest. Getting a DS-3 right now using
AT&T as the loop, delivered via fiber. They put a Fujitsu box in our
office, which i know they can just pop in an ethernet card and offer us
a direct ethernet hookup, but they say it's not available in our area.
I've talked to
run the install wizard on the far side first or you'll have to drive.
mc
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> Both, you need to run the install wizard on both ends
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> 787.273.4143
>
> -Original Me
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> Both, you need to run the install wizard on both ends
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> 787.273.4143
>
Going to 15Mhz channels killed the bandwidth. I suppose I didn't wait
long enough for the s
You have to disable the Install wizard first(it only do QPSK), then give
it 5 min for the SA to work its magic
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Beha
Jeremie,
Go ahead and post them on the Classified section of the webpage.
http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2297
Rick
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:48 AM
> To: WIS
Forgot about that. Sorry.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 3, 2010, at 10:25 AM, "Rick Harnish" wrote:
> Jeremie,
>
> Go ahead and post them on the Classified section of the webpage.
> http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2297
>
> Rick
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Anyone using proxim tsunami mp-8100
Who has the fastest APs now.
we're getting ready for a major expansion and want to reevaluate all options
--
Marco C. Coelho
Argon Technologies Inc.
POB 875
Greenville, TX 75403-0875
903-455-5036
--
It looked interesting until it was more expensive than Canopy and
didn't appear to be anything more than Ubiquiti.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 9/3/2010 10:54 AM, Marco Coelho wrote:
> Anyone using proxim tsunami mp-8100
>
> Who has the fastest
I find it disturbing that almost no public discussion of this is going on. Is
this a matter where we think that the imposition will have little or no effect
on us, or do we expect to simply ignore it, or is everyone just confident it
won't happen?
There's a lot going on, on many fronts, ec
No problem, it is just more "static" than email.
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 11:51 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pulled equipment
>
> Forgot
At 9/3/2010 12:06 PM, MDK wrote:
I find it disturbing that almost no public discussion of this is
going on. Is this a matter where we think that the imposition will
have little or no effect on us, or do we expect to simply ignore it,
or is everyone just confident it won't happen?
ISPs are
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> You have to disable the Install wizard first(it only do QPSK), then give
> it 5 min for the SA to work its magic
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> 787.273.4143
>
I ended up switching it 15Mhz ch
Eric,
Did you block out channel 5762 and try to foce the Peer to 5752 where you
have less interference across the 30 MHz channel?
Rick
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Eric Merkel
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010
We have an office router which has a fairly locked down network. We have
recently setup good apps on a staff domain and I want to setup port
forward for POP3 to forward to the the pop.gmail.com IP.
MY router has a real routed IP and the WAN interface how can I route
port 110 through that to th
I have (2) Working pull Trango P5055M-EXT-US units to sell.
I would like to get $600 or best offer for the link, I'll take care of
shipping expenses.
--
Thanks,
Cameron Kilton
Project Manager
Midcoast Internet Solutions
http://www.midcoast.com
c...@midcoast.com
(207) 594-8277 x 108
--
Is the traffic coming from inside your LAN?
Keep in mind you need to use 995 for Gmail's POP (SSL).
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Cameron Kilton wrote:
> We have an office router which has a fairl
Yes traffic is coming from inside lan.
Thanks,
Cameron Kilton
Project Manager
Midcoast Internet Solutions
http://www.midcoast.com
c...@midcoast.com
(207) 594-8277 x 108
On 9/3/2010 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Is the traffic coming from inside your LAN?
>
> Keep in mind you need to use 995 for
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 15:17, Cameron Kilton wrote:
> We have an office router which has a fairly locked down network. We have
> recently setup good apps on a staff domain and I want to setup port
> forward for POP3 to forward to the the pop.gmail.com IP.
>
>
> MY router has a real routed IP and
Keep in mind this is only an IP, and pop.gmail.com resolves to many
for a reason and I have *NOT* personally tested this.
#where ether2 is your lan interface
/ip firewa nat
add chain=dstnat in-interface=ether2 dst-port=110 protocol=tcp
action=dst-nat to-addresses=74.125.95.109 to-ports=995
Josh L
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Rick Harnish wrote:
> Eric,
>
> Did you block out channel 5762 and try to foce the Peer to 5752 where you
> have less interference across the 30 MHz channel?
>
> Rick
>
Yes, I tried blocking out various channels. Basically what the SA
picked is the best. :/
--
==
I think that several of you are using Ubiquiti AirMax Rocket now
instead of Mikrotik.
I would like to know how they compare:
1. As a point to point link.
2. As an access point.
Right now I only use Mikrotik for links and AP's and I use Ubiquiti for cpe.
I am ready to install equipme
Strike 1
I'm getting connection refused.
I'm assuming I should set my incoming mail server to my office router's
outgoing IP address...correct?
Thanks,
Cameron Kilton
Project Manager
Midcoast Internet Solutions
http://www.midcoast.com
c...@midcoast.com
(207) 594-8277 x 108
On 9/3/2010 4:3
Block 5772 on the peer so that it would move its center freq from 5762
to 5752. The SA choosing algorithm its not always perfect...
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> Block 5772 on the peer so that it would move its center freq from 5762
> to 5752. The SA choosing algorithm its not always perfect...
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> 787.273.4143
>
Still no di
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 16:17 -0400, Cameron Kilton wrote:
> MY router has a real routed IP and the WAN interface how can I route
> port 110 through that to the external IP of 74.125.93.109 which is
> gmails pop server
Just need to know what kind of router you have.
--
*
I believe you can't get there by IP address alone...it likely requires a host
header and may otherwise refuse the connection.
. . . j o n a t h a n
- Original Message -
From: "Cameron Kilton"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2010 3:47:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Port f
We have not used Mikrotik for wireless, but are using UBNT for Radios &
Mikrotik for routing ...
While your concerns are valid, we have not seen anything that would
cause us to rethink our setup. Use good quality shielded outdoor rated
cable, and Grounded Power supplies, with or without surge
LaRoy,
I'm waiting to see how Nstreme (TDMA) v2 compares on the Mikrotik. So
far it looks very promising, and could give UBNT a run for the money.
UBNT has the price advantage, but not as much configuration-ability nor
can you choose to use cheap or high quality enclosures.
Randy
On 9/3/
PC with MT installed on it...we have a few of those and dozes on of
RB433AH units and some other older stuff here and there.
Thanks,
Cameron Kilton
Project Manager
Midcoast Internet Solutions
http://www.midcoast.com
c...@midcoast.com
(207) 594-8277 x 108
On 9/3/2010 5:06 PM, Butch Evans wrote:
On both ends, Under diagnostics check for any v/h signal difference
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Eric Merkel
Sent: Friday, Septe
We have recently begun deploying the Rockets as backhauls to replace our
older and less reliable StarOS links. Without exception, they have
impressed us. It has only been a few months, and they have yet to
experience winter, so the real test won't be for a while. From a pure
reliability and per
well, what do I need to do to make this work with comprising my integrity.
Thanks,
Cameron Kilton
Project Manager
Midcoast Internet Solutions
http://www.midcoast.com
c...@midcoast.com
(207) 594-8277 x 108
On 9/3/2010 5:06 PM, Jonathan Schmidt wrote:
> I believe you can't get there by IP address
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 15:50 -0500, Data Technology wrote:
> I would like to know how they compare:
> 1. As a point to point link.
> 2. As an access point.
This is one of the topics we will cover in my Training Before the MUM at
the end of this month.
> What are you guys seeing in the r
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 17:04 -0400, Cameron Kilton wrote:
> PC with MT installed on it...we have a few of those and dozes on of
> RB433AH units and some other older stuff here and there.
Are you wanting to redirect all pop3 (TCP/110) to google's pop server
(pop over ssl on port TCP/995)? Maybe I
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 15:08 -0600, Randy Cosby wrote:
> I'm waiting to see how Nstreme (TDMA) v2 compares on the Mikrotik.
Another training topic. :-) In fact, if anyone who attends the MUM
wants to do a direct comparison test, I'm game.
--
*
I want to use the MT router outgoing IP as the incoming mail server and
only have it work/forward to g-mail when that IP is being used.
exmaple: my incoming mail server will be 69.69.69.69 and have it
magically get to a specified IP address.
Thanks,
Cameron Kilton
Project Manager
Midcoast Inte
I'll weigh in here, I have almost an equal mix of Ubiquiti and Mikrotik
I'll detail each plus put a summary analogy for these and Motorola at
the end of my email. One of the things that jumps out on me is how raw
Mikrotik is, if you want to be able to write every filter, detail every
part of t
We're running a few hundred customers on Mikrotik PTMP and use it for
most of our backhauls. I really like the programability of the tiks,
and we use the API's extensively. I just don't have problems and they
outperform my expectations, but it does take a bit of a learning curve.
Really rea
No it's not...I didn't mean it that way. At least there are some mountains or
something to wirelessly backhaul to another place. Where I am at it's just
hills and hills and then some more hills. The hills usually run in an average
of height of 100' - 300' of each other. Once you find a way to go
ROUND UP + Air Plane = thousands in savings and pre made towers ;-)
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 3:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers
No it's no
If any of you are dealing direct with any of the 3 mentioned carriers for
VoIP services?
Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
877-804-3001 x102
WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/
We use the two latter provides.
On Sep 3, 2010 8:21 PM, "Scott Carullo" wrote:
If any of you are dealing direct with any of the 3 mentioned carriers for
VoIP services?
Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
877-804-3001 x102
-
Direct?
What kind of commit did they require?
>
> On Sep 3, 2010 8:21 PM, "Scott Carullo" wrote:
>
> If any of you ar...
WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/
Wholesale account requires a LOT of usage.
On Sep 3, 2010 8:32 PM, "Jon Auer" wrote:
Direct?
What kind of commit did they require?
>
>
> >
> > On Sep 3, 2010 8:21 PM, "Scott Carullo"
wrote:
> >
> If any of you ar...
>
>
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We deal direct with L3 and XO - what do you want to know?
-Charles
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 7:20 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] VoIP Services with XO, L3 or Global Crossing
If any
I think L3 standard is $25k / month or something…
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Jon Auer
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 7:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP Services with XO, L3 or Global Crossing
Direct?
What kind of co
I'm considering going direct if it makes sense. I know some guys in the middle
don't make a lot in the markup and they provide more obvious value added
services in providing voip termination than other types of services. Just
looking at options. I have always rolled out our own voip using our
What I wish is a standardized Linux TDMA mechanisim. Not airmax nor nstreame
2, a TDMA that you can use with a cross-vendor mix. Mikrotik is a (to me the
only) router OS. Ubiquity is my major Wireless vendor, from CPE's to the XR2
that go in each Mikrotik AP. I really like Tranzeos as well a
We are already there. I am firmly locked into Ubnt airmax. I tried
MT's NStream, it did not work well for me. I am seeing enough 5ghz
noise that I need airmax (or something like it). I was "this" close to
going back to canopy only because I knew that while slow, it would
work. If moto had wised up
UBNT + GPS?!!!
Stop it! You're making me think that there may be a brighter future after
all!
Shame on you for causing me to dream yet again!
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Friday, Septem
I have nothing bad to say about Mikrotik as my RB1000 firewall runs without
complaint. I also have a tower in the forest running an RB433AH with an XR9
radio that I never hear from. LOL, that reminds me of an old saying, only
I'll amend it some: If a radio in the forest fails, does anyone hear it?
Works best in the winter. I can stick it under my coat to see the screen!
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:29 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netbook/Mini for the field?
I've got
I did not mean to sound like i was saying anything bad about MT. Their
NStream simply did not work for me and I did not have time to speed
weeks working it out. I love my MT firewalls. I have two issues with
the setup, once a month or two, DNS 'goes loopy' and I ahve to reboot
the router. This also
NO! I will yell the dream from every tower! I suspect they could do
GPS with a multiport USB device to make the timing and have all APs
sync to it. After reading a bit about the BSD TDMA software I am
pretty sure this is technically possible. Not having a great in-depth
understanding of the Atheros
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