Re: [WISPA] routers
I have some media flex units here. They work REALLY well!!! If you have a house that a normal wireless router has trouble covering, this unit seems to do a much better job. RickG wrote: Ruckus media flex are over $100. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats not under $100? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice try but I said under $100 :) On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruckus media flex Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List
Re: [WISPA] routers
We just became a reseller for the ZoneFlex gear... it really impresses me too! Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers I have some media flex units here. They work REALLY well!!! If you have a house that a normal wireless router has trouble covering, this unit seems to do a much better job. RickG wrote: Ruckus media flex are over $100. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats not under $100? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice try but I said under $100 :) On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruckus media flex Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman
Re: [WISPA] routers
I wish there was an outdoor version that used 5.7 for inter-AP communication... 3-dB Networks wrote: We just became a reseller for the ZoneFlex gear... it really impresses me too! Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers I have some media flex units here. They work REALLY well!!! If you have a house that a normal wireless router has trouble covering, this unit seems to do a much better job. RickG wrote: Ruckus media flex are over $100. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats not under $100? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice try but I said under $100 :) On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruckus media flex Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] routers
Cisco 851's run about $$300 and the 871's run about $450. John Thomas Travis Johnson wrote: I was hoping to find something a little more user friendly, as the company buying isn't real tech savvy. Something with a nice web gui and easy to understand settings. Travis Microserv Butch Evans wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote: I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? Mikrotik's 400 series routers are very good for this purpose. They are, in my opinion, better in most respects than either of the devices you mention, but cost is between your numbers. ;-) You can get from 1 to 9 ethernet ports for less than $200 with all the power you need to run good QOS management. Another alternative, though I'm not sure it would fit in the price model you mention, is ImageStream. They have all the power of Linux with the benefit of tested package interactions. VERY nice solution. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
Netopia still makes routers with Ethernet WAN interfaces. I use the 3386-ENT for the occasional customer who does not have their own firewall. So far they have been rock solid. Telnet only configuration. VPN, basic QoS, etc. is built in. They are $100 a pop. There is also a version with a wireless G radio built in, the 3387WG-ENT. I like these things because they just work, have a good feature set, and are reasonably priced. Patrick Shoemaker President, Vector Data Systems LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Tom DeReggi wrote: find one that works and keep it. Easier said then done, when distributers keep changing what hardware rev they stock. Darn near impossible to keep it straight. We are doing our best to stay away from the 54G linksys AP's now because we found that most of the models have problems with ARP over wireless. Symptoms like loosing connectivity for 30 seconds at at a time. We still use the higher end Linksys VPN routers, more often. They seem to be more stable. But I have to say, finding stable low end routers is a challenge. We are finding it more common that we end up using higher end Security appliances instead. (sonic walls, Watch Guards, Fortigate, etc). But I would much prefer a true router. I will say that Netopia used to make a Ethernet to Ethernet router that was identical to their integrated DSL routers. Not sure if they still do. What I might suggest is keeping a look out for a low cost Layer3 switch. Not quite cheap yet, but starting to get affordable. Intellinet has their OSPF capable layer2/3 switch (24 port 100baseT, 4 port Gigabit, 8-16K of table space) for about $750. Netgear has their 12port OSPF capable layer3 switch for about $300. (only can handle about 500 entries in its OSPF table, so just good for for end user STUB type configurations). Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeromie Reeves wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? Ah yes I was going to mention that. The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Yes a marked improvement in performance and stability. Same for the 150/160N. What firmware are you using on the 160N? I tried flashing it over the weekend and finally found one it let me upload, but I appear to have bricked the device. I can probably fix it via boot_wait, and would love to know what firmware has been used successfully to reflash with. You need to TFTP the mini version, then the full version. V24 from the stable branch. I see that they have again redone the download structure. downloads, stable, v24SP1, Consumer, Linksys, WRT160N_v1. I do not know what has changed since the version ive been using is about 3 months old. I find with ddrt like all other software, find one that works and keep it. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. Exactly. -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] routers
Have you been changing the firmware on them? The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Same for the 150/160N. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 5:54 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
Jeromie Reeves wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? Ah yes I was going to mention that. The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Yes a marked improvement in performance and stability. Same for the 150/160N. What firmware are you using on the 160N? I tried flashing it over the weekend and finally found one it let me upload, but I appear to have bricked the device. I can probably fix it via boot_wait, and would love to know what firmware has been used successfully to reflash with. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. Exactly. -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeromie Reeves wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? Ah yes I was going to mention that. The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Yes a marked improvement in performance and stability. Same for the 150/160N. What firmware are you using on the 160N? I tried flashing it over the weekend and finally found one it let me upload, but I appear to have bricked the device. I can probably fix it via boot_wait, and would love to know what firmware has been used successfully to reflash with. You need to TFTP the mini version, then the full version. V24 from the stable branch. I see that they have again redone the download structure. downloads, stable, v24SP1, Consumer, Linksys, WRT160N_v1. I do not know what has changed since the version ive been using is about 3 months old. I find with ddrt like all other software, find one that works and keep it. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. Exactly. -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:13 AM, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeromie Reeves wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. We buy the Linksys WRT54GL (basically, the old/good WRT54G before they started taking out half the RAM and using a different, flakier processor), and it's pretty solid as-is. If you need special features or just have a customer you really like, flashing that router with something like DD-WRT makes it even better. I manage all customer end routers. It keeps the 3am calls down a lot. Three or four years back, we were flashing WRT54Gs and using them as wireless client devices. Now that the firmware has improved (a lot), it might be worthwhile to revisit that notion. Configured properly, it's a decent wireless client radio (Broadcom chipset, I believe), with integrated NAT and a four-port switch, and can be had for under seventy bucks in small quantity. Since the radio is built-in, that's even cheaper than the low-end Mikrotik boards. I have decided to move over to 100% 5ghz for network distribution and leave 2.4 as client side networks. Because we manage them it helps to stop from stepping on ourselves and from people dropping in 500mw/1watt amps with 7db duckies. Found more then a few of those and quickly changed the setup. They make a great network extender and have plenty of features. Now if only the PPtP worked with MT + UserManager. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
Thats the first thing I do, update the firmware. Sometime it helps but usually not. The darn things just are flaky! On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Same for the 150/160N. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 5:54 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
Whats not under $100? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice try but I said under $100 :) On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruckus media flex Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
Good luck here with wrt54gl stock. --- airCloud Communications Jerry Richardson 925-260-4119 Sent Mobile -Original Message- From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 1:33 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Nice try but I said under $100 :) On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruckus media flex Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
find one that works and keep it. Easier said then done, when distributers keep changing what hardware rev they stock. Darn near impossible to keep it straight. We are doing our best to stay away from the 54G linksys AP's now because we found that most of the models have problems with ARP over wireless. Symptoms like loosing connectivity for 30 seconds at at a time. We still use the higher end Linksys VPN routers, more often. They seem to be more stable. But I have to say, finding stable low end routers is a challenge. We are finding it more common that we end up using higher end Security appliances instead. (sonic walls, Watch Guards, Fortigate, etc). But I would much prefer a true router. I will say that Netopia used to make a Ethernet to Ethernet router that was identical to their integrated DSL routers. Not sure if they still do. What I might suggest is keeping a look out for a low cost Layer3 switch. Not quite cheap yet, but starting to get affordable. Intellinet has their OSPF capable layer2/3 switch (24 port 100baseT, 4 port Gigabit, 8-16K of table space) for about $750. Netgear has their 12port OSPF capable layer3 switch for about $300. (only can handle about 500 entries in its OSPF table, so just good for for end user STUB type configurations). Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeromie Reeves wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? Ah yes I was going to mention that. The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Yes a marked improvement in performance and stability. Same for the 150/160N. What firmware are you using on the 160N? I tried flashing it over the weekend and finally found one it let me upload, but I appear to have bricked the device. I can probably fix it via boot_wait, and would love to know what firmware has been used successfully to reflash with. You need to TFTP the mini version, then the full version. V24 from the stable branch. I see that they have again redone the download structure. downloads, stable, v24SP1, Consumer, Linksys, WRT160N_v1. I do not know what has changed since the version ive been using is about 3 months old. I find with ddrt like all other software, find one that works and keep it. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. Exactly. -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
I agree with Jeromie on this. Everytime I run into a WRT54G/GS I load DDWRT on them. I have NEVER had a problem out of these home routers after doing that if they are setup correctly. Last I looked, they had many more coversions of home routers with athero's chipsets(DDWRT). I have even used these for satellite AP's before...until the NS2's came along! JM2CW, Scott -- Original Message -- From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:59:44 -0700 Have you been changing the firmware on them? The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Same for the 150/160N. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 5:54 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
I already responded, but a bit late on this thread. I have a USB flash drive loaded with all flashes of DD-WRT that I carry all the time. Anytime I run into a WRT54g/ GL/ gs/ I have all DD-WRT firmware to zap them. Best thing since sliced bread if you ask me. Scott -- Original Message -- From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:45:50 -0700 Jeromie Reeves wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? Ah yes I was going to mention that. The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Yes a marked improvement in performance and stability. Same for the 150/160N. What firmware are you using on the 160N? I tried flashing it over the weekend and finally found one it let me upload, but I appear to have bricked the device. I can probably fix it via boot_wait, and would love to know what firmware has been used successfully to reflash with. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. Exactly. -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
Ruckus media flex are over $100. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats not under $100? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice try but I said under $100 :) On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruckus media flex Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
I agree with that - power really sucks here. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder what model/release your having issues with? Ive got a WRT54G with over a 150day uptime. I would say maybe 2% of my users have UPS's so every 10~14 days everything is reset. Maybe the craptastic power out here is helping network stability with forced power cycling =-) On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:35 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats the first thing I do, update the firmware. Sometime it helps but usually not. The darn things just are flaky! On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Same for the 150/160N. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 5:54 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] routers
Replying to my own response...but since Wallyworld(Walmart) carries these, you might see many, many more of them. Scott -- Original Message -- From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:31:22 -0500 I already responded, but a bit late on this thread. I have a USB flash drive loaded with all flashes of DD-WRT that I carry all the time. Anytime I run into a WRT54g/ GL/ gs/ I have all DD-WRT firmware to zap them. Best thing since sliced bread if you ask me. Scott -- Original Message -- From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:45:50 -0700 Jeromie Reeves wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? Ah yes I was going to mention that. The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Yes a marked improvement in performance and stability. Same for the 150/160N. What firmware are you using on the 160N? I tried flashing it over the weekend and finally found one it let me upload, but I appear to have bricked the device. I can probably fix it via boot_wait, and would love to know what firmware has been used successfully to reflash with. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. Exactly. -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
Yes, and Travis's original post is as follows: I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis, Microserv B/G router, slices right through multipath, reads reflections, smart antenna array, locks 2 or more antenna on client device, reads 45', vertical and horizontal, high output for large homes and offices. Excellent for metal buildings and brick homes. We sell standard wireless routers for $100 installed and encrypted, these for $200. Travis, try one of these in a difficult spot, I'm sure you will like it. $139.00 Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Ruckus media flex are over $100. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats not under $100? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice try but I said under $100 :) On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruckus media flex Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] routers
www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
I was hoping to find something a little more "user friendly", as the company buying isn't real tech savvy. Something with a nice web gui and easy to understand settings. Travis Microserv Butch Evans wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote: I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? Mikrotik's 400 series routers are very good for this purpose. They are, in my opinion, better in most respects than either of the devices you mention, but cost is between your numbers. ;-) You can get from 1 to 9 ethernet ports for less than $200 with all the power you need to run good QOS management. Another alternative, though I'm not sure it would fit in the price model you mention, is ImageStream. They have all the power of Linux with the benefit of tested package interactions. VERY nice solution. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote: I was hoping to find something a little more user friendly, as the company buying isn't real tech savvy. Something with a nice web gui and easy to understand settings. Find the hardware platform and look at m0n0wall, Smoothwall, ClarkConnect and ipCop. Any of those are very good/easy to use. I'm forgetting how many ethernet ports you needed, but these software choices are all very nice AND easy. -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
Ruckus media flex Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] routers
Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote: I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? Mikrotik's 400 series routers are very good for this purpose. They are, in my opinion, better in most respects than either of the devices you mention, but cost is between your numbers. ;-) You can get from 1 to 9 ethernet ports for less than $200 with all the power you need to run good QOS management. Another alternative, though I'm not sure it would fit in the price model you mention, is ImageStream. They have all the power of Linux with the benefit of tested package interactions. VERY nice solution. -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
I very much wish there was a decent midrange router with this many ports for StarOS. There are several powerful boards for wireless which we're extremely happy with, but multi-port routers are lacking. Anyone who uses StarOS care to share what you use for Star routers...low-power small form-factor 5-9 port routers. - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote: I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? Mikrotik's 400 series routers are very good for this purpose. They are, in my opinion, better in most respects than either of the devices you mention, but cost is between your numbers. ;-) You can get from 1 to 9 ethernet ports for less than $200 with all the power you need to run good QOS management. Another alternative, though I'm not sure it would fit in the price model you mention, is ImageStream. They have all the power of Linux with the benefit of tested package interactions. VERY nice solution. -- *Butch Evans *Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering *MikroTik RouterOS* *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
I use staros with up to 3 of their boards on one tower and then I run them all into a switch at the bottom but my network is still routed because the 3 boards are not running any bridges. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers I very much wish there was a decent midrange router with this many ports for StarOS. There are several powerful boards for wireless which we're extremely happy with, but multi-port routers are lacking. Anyone who uses StarOS care to share what you use for Star routers...low-power small form-factor 5-9 port routers. - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote: I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? Mikrotik's 400 series routers are very good for this purpose. They are, in my opinion, better in most respects than either of the devices you mention, but cost is between your numbers. ;-) You can get from 1 to 9 ethernet ports for less than $200 with all the power you need to run good QOS management. Another alternative, though I'm not sure it would fit in the price model you mention, is ImageStream. They have all the power of Linux with the benefit of tested package interactions. VERY nice solution. -- *Butch Evans *Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering *MikroTik RouterOS* *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
We do this too but we also have needs for routers that are multi-port ethernet. - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers I use staros with up to 3 of their boards on one tower and then I run them all into a switch at the bottom but my network is still routed because the 3 boards are not running any bridges. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers I very much wish there was a decent midrange router with this many ports for StarOS. There are several powerful boards for wireless which we're extremely happy with, but multi-port routers are lacking. Anyone who uses StarOS care to share what you use for Star routers...low-power small form-factor 5-9 port routers. - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote: I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? Mikrotik's 400 series routers are very good for this purpose. They are, in my opinion, better in most respects than either of the devices you mention, but cost is between your numbers. ;-) You can get from 1 to 9 ethernet ports for less than $200 with all the power you need to run good QOS management. Another alternative, though I'm not sure it would fit in the price model you mention, is ImageStream. They have all the power of Linux with the benefit of tested package interactions. VERY nice solution. -- *Butch Evans *Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering *MikroTik RouterOS* *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers with DHCP Problems
we've found transient power can reset DD-WRT on the buffalo APs. It only has to happen once to be a pain. Never saw this with openwrt based buffalos. My remote office runs on a generator that cuts over to inverters and causes power burps! I thought this problem was due to our setup, until I had a 35mile service call to a bus. customer who's router reset! On 11/1/07, Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently bought a batch of Buffalo AirStations, which run WHR-HP-G54. Based upon recommendations, I also installed DD-WRT in order to improve the OS, I thought, and so I have functionality I wouldn't normally have, like SNMP. These are working fine except for one problem, on several, we have noticed that the DHCP server will simply stop giving out ip addresses. We are not sure why, but everything works fine after rebooting the router 1 or 2 times. Also, putting static private addresses in works as well after turning off DHCP. I need to know if there is a fairly good router out there that will handle DHCP and allows to use SNMP. I would like to have my cake and eat it too by keeping my costs under $70. These are used primarily for residential. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Routers with DHCP Problems
I recently bought a batch of Buffalo AirStations, which run WHR-HP-G54. Based upon recommendations, I also installed DD-WRT in order to improve the OS, I thought, and so I have functionality I wouldn't normally have, like SNMP. These are working fine except for one problem, on several, we have noticed that the DHCP server will simply stop giving out ip addresses. We are not sure why, but everything works fine after rebooting the router 1 or 2 times. Also, putting static private addresses in works as well after turning off DHCP. I need to know if there is a fairly good router out there that will handle DHCP and allows to use SNMP. I would like to have my cake and eat it too by keeping my costs under $70. These are used primarily for residential. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers with DHCP Problems
What do you use for your wireless cpe? Carl Shivers wrote: I recently bought a batch of Buffalo AirStations, which run WHR-HP-G54. Based upon recommendations, I also installed DD-WRT in order to improve the OS, I thought, and so I have functionality I wouldn't normally have, like SNMP. These are working fine except for one problem, on several, we have noticed that the DHCP server will simply stop giving out ip addresses. We are not sure why, but everything works fine after rebooting the router 1 or 2 times. Also, putting static private addresses in works as well after turning off DHCP. I need to know if there is a fairly good router out there that will handle DHCP and allows to use SNMP. I would like to have my cake and eat it too by keeping my costs under $70. These are used primarily for residential. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers with DHCP Problems
I have used many WHR HP's with openwrt and ddwrt and never had the dhcp server stop (some have 20PC's on them). I have v24 rc2 09/04/07 on most of them, iirc I went to RC3 about 2? 3? weeks ago. I would roll back to this version or one very close and see what happens. If the dhcp keeps going out I would check for issues on that segment. On 11/1/07, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you use for your wireless cpe? Carl Shivers wrote: I recently bought a batch of Buffalo AirStations, which run WHR-HP-G54. Based upon recommendations, I also installed DD-WRT in order to improve the OS, I thought, and so I have functionality I wouldn't normally have, like SNMP. These are working fine except for one problem, on several, we have noticed that the DHCP server will simply stop giving out ip addresses. We are not sure why, but everything works fine after rebooting the router 1 or 2 times. Also, putting static private addresses in works as well after turning off DHCP. I need to know if there is a fairly good router out there that will handle DHCP and allows to use SNMP. I would like to have my cake and eat it too by keeping my costs under $70. These are used primarily for residential. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] routers
Hi, Does anyone have a source for generic 802.11b firewall/routers that are cheap? The last two places have run out of stock. Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Travis Johnson wrote: Does anyone have a source for generic 802.11b firewall/routers that are cheap? The last two places have run out of stock. Depends on what you mean by cheap and by firewall. For a router with real firewall capability you can go with Mikrotik RB133C at less than $100 with case, power supply and RouterOS. If you want something cheap that is not really a firewall, then I've always liked the Trendnet routers available all over the place. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2007, Travis Johnson wrote: Does anyone have a source for generic 802.11b firewall/routers that are cheap? The last two places have run out of stock. Depends on what you mean by cheap and by firewall. For a router with real firewall capability you can go with Mikrotik RB133C at less than $100 with case, power supply and RouterOS. If you want something cheap that is not really a firewall, then I've always liked the Trendnet routers available all over the place. Err that should be RB150 (not 133C). The RB150 is 5 ethernet ports and no mini-pci. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
Netopia is another very reliable router. -RickG On 2/15/07, John J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cdw.com carries the Cisco 851W for $379. John -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 08:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Checkpoint has one for under $400 too. I forgot about that one. Dual wan with wireless. Kinda cool. I've not tried one yet, but did see them at ISPCon. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers I too have that idea in action, but the port forwarding options are non existant... There has to be something out there that works... Thanks for the feedback. - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Ross Cornett wrote: Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com One more reason I use a cpe with built in router. I know your pain. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
cdw.com carries the Cisco 851W for $379. John -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 08:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Checkpoint has one for under $400 too. I forgot about that one. Dual wan with wireless. Kinda cool. I've not tried one yet, but did see them at ISPCon. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers I too have that idea in action, but the port forwarding options are non existant... There has to be something out there that works... Thanks for the feedback. - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Ross Cornett wrote: Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com One more reason I use a cpe with built in router. I know your pain. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Routers
Trendnet. Hands down. I STILL thank JohnnyO for turning me on to them. VERY reliable. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833156001 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John J. Thomas Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers cdw.com carries the Cisco 851W for $379. John -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 08:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Checkpoint has one for under $400 too. I forgot about that one. Dual wan with wireless. Kinda cool. I've not tried one yet, but did see them at ISPCon. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers I too have that idea in action, but the port forwarding options are non existant... There has to be something out there that works... Thanks for the feedback. - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Ross Cornett wrote: Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com One more reason I use a cpe with built in router. I know your pain. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
Trendnet has a 5 year warranty. Closer to lifetime than most. pd Peter R. wrote: Who has a lifetime warranty? KyWiFi LLC wrote: Yes, I'm serious. Lots of companies offer a lifetime warranty. If they have a good product, they should stand behind it. If their product is junk, then... Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers; OpenWRT
On 2/8/07, Brian Whigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:50 -0600, Matt wrote: What I would like to know is what is the cheapest router that is supported by OpenWRT? I'd almost guarantee it's the Buffalo WHR-G54S. I've only one so far. It's been at grandma's house doing a 300' link in client mode. It's been installed almost a year now, without a hiccup (not even a reboot as far as I know). Believe it or not, Grandma's picky. And, I she's an hour away so I needed something reliable. WR850G, Very stable and in the $30~35 range. I have a number of WHR's also and they are good as are the F5D's It's practically the same hardware as the WRT-54G V1-4 (not the neutered version 5). It's only got one external antenna. But, I'm using the stock di-pole for the 300' window-to-window link. I love it. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7666821st=whtype=productid=1134701703049 $45 (regularly $50) WR850G is $30ish And, check out http://www.dd-wrt.com This is a GREAT hack of the linksys firmware. Has PPTP, VLAN, QOS, SER (VOIP), SSH, HTTPS, Samba, client mode, etc. Great GUI and even skins. If you find a cheaper product, let me know. Brian DDWRT v22/23 is based on OpenWRT. It supports everything DDWRT does and far far more. You just need to compile it yourself (the best way) and select what you need. PS DD-WRT can even be installed on Linksys WRT-54G v5+. Here's the hardware support list: Linksys WRT54G 1.0 CDF0xxx or CDF1xxx Linksys WRT54G 1.1 CDF2xxx or CDF3xxx Linksys WRT54G 2.0 CDF5xxx Linksys WRT54G 2.2 CDF7xxx Linksys WRT54G 3.0 CDF8xxx Linksys WRT54G 3.1 CDF9xxx Linksys WRT54G 4.0 CDFAxxx Linksys WRT54G 5.0 (JTAG only with cfe update, see here ) Linksys WRT54GL 1.0 CL7Axxx Linksys WRT54GL 1.1 CL7Bxxx Linksys WRT54GS 1.0 CGN0xxx or CGN1xxx Linksys WRT54GS 1.1 CGN2xxx Linksys WRT54GS 2.0 CGN3xxx Linksys WRT54GS 2.1 CGN4xxx Linksys WRT54GS 3.0 CGN5xxx Linksys WRT54GS 4.0 CGN6xxx Allnet ALL0277 Buffalo WHR-G54S Buffalo WHR-HP-G54S Buffalo WBR-G54 Buffalo WLA-G54 Buffalo WBR2-G54 Buffalo WBR2-G54S Belkin F5D7130/7330 (2mb flash) Belkin F5D7230-4 v1444 (2mb flash) ASUS WL500G-Deluxe Motorola WR850G Siemens Gigaset SE505 Ravo W54-RT Askey RT210W -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
Where are you finding those boards for $22 a piece? -Tony cw wrote: We use WAR boards but if it's resi wireless LAN needed, these work fine http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. They have Atheros chipset and are $22 delivered. Throw them away when they die. All the consumer grade stuff lasts the same length of time. Ross Cornett wrote: Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com -- Anthony R. Mattke Network Administrator Cyberlink International 888.293.3693 x4353 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
Hi, I currently have over 2,000 Linksys routers installed... probably closer to 3,000. They have the same failure rate as every other brand we tried (Belkin, Netgear, Dlink). The big advantage for us is Linksys' RMA procedure is all online, and you can do 20 or 200 at a time. We save them up for a month, and then RMA all of them back at the same time. Our biggest problem with all of them is ANY amount of static on the WAN port will cause that port to go out. I'm not talking a huge lightning storm, I'm talking a very small amount of static in the air. Travis Microserv Anthony R. Mattke wrote: Where are you finding those boards for $22 a piece? -Tony cw wrote: We use WAR boards but if it's resi wireless LAN needed, these work fine http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. They have Atheros chipset and are $22 delivered. Throw them away when they die. All the consumer grade stuff lasts the same length of time. Ross Cornett wrote: Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
That is what I was looking for. We all serve the same interest and that is customer satisfaction. I did learn a great deal from you all providing me your feedback. Our scenario has been been using bulk ordered refurbs. We used to be all Linksys until we started seeing a high failure rate. Power in this area is seems to be poor. intermittent flickers cause a router to loose its config or completely slam it. The customer never tells us it was due to power until we ask a few simple questions. Then we realize we are being misinformed. Moved to the netgears to see what they could do and started out with refurbs and now I believe we are paying for htat decision. I will once again consider the linkys and I will surely look into the belkin. I have also been informed that motorola was putting out a good router, the BR700 but they are discontinued. So, thank you to all that have provided me this feedback. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Who has a lifetime warranty? KyWiFi LLC wrote: Yes, I'm serious. Lots of companies offer a lifetime warranty. If they have a good product, they should stand behind it. If their product is junk, then... Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
Follow the link I pasted http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. Anthony R. Mattke wrote: Where are you finding those boards for $22 a piece? -Tony cw wrote: We use WAR boards but if it's resi wireless LAN needed, these work fine http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. They have Atheros chipset and are $22 delivered. Throw them away when they die. All the consumer grade stuff lasts the same length of time. Ross Cornett wrote: Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
We use WAR boards but if it's resi wireless LAN needed, these work fine http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. They have Atheros chipset and are $22 delivered. Throw them away when they die. All the consumer grade stuff Those look like Netgear routers. We run PPPoE and have always had trouble with Netgear routers requiring a reboot to reconnect if you do something stupid like update the firmware on the Mikrotik PPPoE server in the middle of the night. Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers; OpenWRT
What I would like to know is what is the cheapest router that is supported by OpenWRT? http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware Matt Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
Those _are_ Netgear routers. The thread was looking for consumer grade routers. All sub hundred dollar wireless routers are going to lose their way periodically and require power cycling. This particular router has Atheros chipset and it's priced for throw away so you don't have to waste more on RMA than the router is worth in the first place. Matt wrote: We use WAR boards but if it's resi wireless LAN needed, these work fine http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. They have Atheros chipset and are $22 delivered. Throw them away when they die. All the consumer grade stuff Those look like Netgear routers. We run PPPoE and have always had trouble with Netgear routers requiring a reboot to reconnect if you do something stupid like update the firmware on the Mikrotik PPPoE server in the middle of the night. Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
Shannon, Who elsefor example offers a lifetime warranty? Ron Wallace -Original Message- From: KyWiFi LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 11:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Yes, I'm serious. Lots of companies offer a lifetime warranty. If they have a good product, they should stand behind it. If their product is junk, then... Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === Yes, we are beta testing ISP Buddy! http://www.ispbuddy.com === - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Hi, Are you serious? You honestly expect a company to honor a warranty for a lifetime, especially on a $30 item? How do you expect them to stay in business? Travis Microserv KyWiFi LLC wrote: We use the Belkin F5D7230-4 wireless router exclusively and I'm proud to report that both us and our subscribers have been VERY pleased with them. We do, however, see a failure rate with them of around 8% - 10% BUT, they have been good about replacing them in a timely manner and have always honored their lifetime warranty. We buy them for $30 - $40 and retail them for $100. Here's a link: http://www.buy.com/prod/Belkin_F5D7230_4_Wireless_G_Router/q/loc/101/201978542.html I'm on a mission right now to align our company with manufacturers, vendors, etc. who offer and honor a lifetime warranty. If someone is only willing to stand behind their product for a year or two, you should question that, I know I do. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === Yes, we are beta testing ISP Buddy! http://www.ispbuddy.com === - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Nothing. We have to deal with low quality in a commodity world. However another way to approach it might be, who has the best RMA policy. Linksys's RMA policy is non-existent, and a provider needs to be prepared to eat any failures. That comment is based on, the many hoops linksys makes you go through before allowing a return, which cost way more to do than the cost to buy a new router. This is the BIG reason, that we have converted 50% of all new installs to NON-Linksys routers. Linksys makes my favorite, Home Router OS, but I can;t stomach giving all my money to those that don't honor their warrantees. Belkin on the other hand has been fabulaous. No questions asked, jsut send it back, and get a new one in a few days. Belkin also has a nice Default portal page you can see before logining in to see private info. Belkin comes with a bundled Content Control trial. Belkon can opperate as an AP (Bridge) or Nat Router, and I think also WDS. The only reason we don't use Belkin for all our installs is that Linksys is what our local distributor carries, and because Belkin had some PPPOE bugs, which prevented it from Auto-reconnecting after a disconnect, unless you reboot it. So we still use Linksys for PPPOE clients. However that PPOE bug was identified over a year ago, maybe its been fixed by now? The Belkin has a higher price tag unfortuneately, but it is a N router, and I prefer to support the vendors that honor their warrantees. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] Routers Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
Re: [WISPA] Routers; OpenWRT
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:50 -0600, Matt wrote: What I would like to know is what is the cheapest router that is supported by OpenWRT? I'd almost guarantee it's the Buffalo WHR-G54S. I've only one so far. It's been at grandma's house doing a 300' link in client mode. It's been installed almost a year now, without a hiccup (not even a reboot as far as I know). Believe it or not, Grandma's picky. And, I she's an hour away so I needed something reliable. It's practically the same hardware as the WRT-54G V1-4 (not the neutered version 5). It's only got one external antenna. But, I'm using the stock di-pole for the 300' window-to-window link. I love it. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7666821st=whtype=productid=1134701703049 $45 (regularly $50) And, check out http://www.dd-wrt.com This is a GREAT hack of the linksys firmware. Has PPTP, VLAN, QOS, SER (VOIP), SSH, HTTPS, Samba, client mode, etc. Great GUI and even skins. If you find a cheaper product, let me know. Brian PS DD-WRT can even be installed on Linksys WRT-54G v5+. Here's the hardware support list: Linksys WRT54G 1.0 CDF0xxx or CDF1xxx Linksys WRT54G 1.1 CDF2xxx or CDF3xxx Linksys WRT54G 2.0 CDF5xxx Linksys WRT54G 2.2 CDF7xxx Linksys WRT54G 3.0 CDF8xxx Linksys WRT54G 3.1 CDF9xxx Linksys WRT54G 4.0 CDFAxxx Linksys WRT54G 5.0 (JTAG only with cfe update, see here ) Linksys WRT54GL 1.0 CL7Axxx Linksys WRT54GL 1.1 CL7Bxxx Linksys WRT54GS 1.0 CGN0xxx or CGN1xxx Linksys WRT54GS 1.1 CGN2xxx Linksys WRT54GS 2.0 CGN3xxx Linksys WRT54GS 2.1 CGN4xxx Linksys WRT54GS 3.0 CGN5xxx Linksys WRT54GS 4.0 CGN6xxx Allnet ALL0277 Buffalo WHR-G54S Buffalo WHR-HP-G54S Buffalo WBR-G54 Buffalo WLA-G54 Buffalo WBR2-G54 Buffalo WBR2-G54S Belkin F5D7130/7330 (2mb flash) Belkin F5D7230-4 v1444 (2mb flash) ASUS WL500G-Deluxe Motorola WR850G Siemens Gigaset SE505 Ravo W54-RT Askey RT210W -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers; OpenWRT
What I would like to know is what is the cheapest router that is supported by OpenWRT? I'd almost guarantee it's the Buffalo WHR-G54S. I've only one so far. It's been at grandma's house doing a 300' link in client mode. It's been installed almost a year now, without a hiccup (not even a reboot as far as I know). Believe it or not, Grandma's picky. And, I she's an hour away so I needed something reliable. It's practically the same hardware as the WRT-54G V1-4 (not the neutered version 5). It's only got one external antenna. But, I'm using the stock di-pole for the 300' window-to-window link. I love it. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7666821st=whtype=productid=1134701703049 $45 (regularly $50) Its cheaper at Newegg.com. And, check out http://www.dd-wrt.com Thanks. Matt This is a GREAT hack of the linksys firmware. Has PPTP, VLAN, QOS, SER (VOIP), SSH, HTTPS, Samba, client mode, etc. Great GUI and even skins. If you find a cheaper product, let me know. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Routers
Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
Ross Cornett wrote: Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com One more reason I use a cpe with built in router. I know your pain. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
I too have that idea in action, but the port forwarding options are non existant... There has to be something out there that works... Thanks for the feedback. - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Ross Cornett wrote: Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com One more reason I use a cpe with built in router. I know your pain. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
When we used bridged CPEs, we installed TrendNet, Linksys, or Netgear routers. All of them have held up for about 4 years now. Several failures on the Netgears, which were the majority, but we also bought them in bulk and as refurbs. That's what is cheapest and appears to work well. We now install CPEs that are also routers, so at most the clients need a desktop AP or switch in their home/office. -Nick Ross Cornett wrote: Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
Nothing. We have to deal with low quality in a commodity world. However another way to approach it might be, who has the best RMA policy. Linksys's RMA policy is non-existent, and a provider needs to be prepared to eat any failures. That comment is based on, the many hoops linksys makes you go through before allowing a return, which cost way more to do than the cost to buy a new router. This is the BIG reason, that we have converted 50% of all new installs to NON-Linksys routers. Linksys makes my favorite, Home Router OS, but I can;t stomach giving all my money to those that don't honor their warrantees. Belkin on the other hand has been fabulaous. No questions asked, jsut send it back, and get a new one in a few days. Belkin also has a nice Default portal page you can see before logining in to see private info. Belkin comes with a bundled Content Control trial. Belkon can opperate as an AP (Bridge) or Nat Router, and I think also WDS. The only reason we don't use Belkin for all our installs is that Linksys is what our local distributor carries, and because Belkin had some PPPOE bugs, which prevented it from Auto-reconnecting after a disconnect, unless you reboot it. So we still use Linksys for PPPOE clients. However that PPOE bug was identified over a year ago, maybe its been fixed by now? The Belkin has a higher price tag unfortuneately, but it is a N router, and I prefer to support the vendors that honor their warrantees. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] Routers Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
We use WAR boards but if it's resi wireless LAN needed, these work fine http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. They have Atheros chipset and are $22 delivered. Throw them away when they die. All the consumer grade stuff lasts the same length of time. Ross Cornett wrote: Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Ross Cornett wrote: Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. The answer to this question lies, at least in part, what you are wanting to accomplish. Good low-end routers I've used include trendnet and Belkin. I really like the Trendnet, as they are cheap and have been pretty reliable. As someone else mentioned, the Belkin offers some nice features for the end user to see some data without having to divulge a password (so they can't mess up the config). Also, the radio/router combo is very nice. In fact, this is my preferred setup. Deliberant has some good radios with built in router. Wisp-router sells what I think they call CPE03 that has router functionality built in. Beyond that, if you want higher end, Mikrotik now has a board (the RB150) that is a 5 Ethernet port board that runs about $70. You would need to add about $20-30 for case and power supply, but for about $100, you'd have a VERY functional router. Last I heard, the cases were scarce (or non-existent), however. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
Hi, Are you serious? You honestly expect a company to honor a warranty for a lifetime, especially on a $30 item? How do you expect them to stay in business? Travis Microserv KyWiFi LLC wrote: We use the Belkin F5D7230-4 wireless router exclusively and I'm proud to report that both us and our subscribers have been VERY pleased with them. We do, however, see a failure rate with them of around 8% - 10% BUT, they have been good about replacing them in a timely manner and have always honored their lifetime warranty. We buy them for $30 - $40 and retail them for $100. Here's a link: http://www.buy.com/prod/Belkin_F5D7230_4_Wireless_G_Router/q/loc/101/201978542.html I'm on a mission right now to align our company with manufacturers, vendors, etc. who offer and honor a lifetime warranty. If someone is only willing to stand behind their product for a year or two, you should question that, I know I do. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === Yes, we are beta testing ISP Buddy! http://www.ispbuddy.com === - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Nothing. We have to deal with low quality in a commodity world. However another way to approach it might be, who has the best RMA policy. Linksys's RMA policy is non-existent, and a provider needs to be prepared to eat any failures. That comment is based on, the many hoops linksys makes you go through before allowing a return, which cost way more to do than the cost to buy a new router. This is the BIG reason, that we have converted 50% of all new installs to NON-Linksys routers. Linksys makes my favorite, Home Router OS, but I can;t stomach giving all my money to those that don't honor their warrantees. Belkin on the other hand has been fabulaous. No questions asked, jsut send it back, and get a new one in a few days. Belkin also has a nice Default portal page you can see before logining in to see private info. Belkin comes with a bundled Content Control trial. Belkon can opperate as an AP (Bridge) or Nat Router, and I think also WDS. The only reason we don't use Belkin for all our installs is that Linksys is what our local distributor carries, and because Belkin had some PPPOE bugs, which prevented it from Auto-reconnecting after a disconnect, unless you reboot it. So we still use Linksys for PPPOE clients. However that PPOE bug was identified over a year ago, maybe its been fixed by now? The Belkin has a higher price tag unfortuneately, but it is a N router, and I prefer to support the vendors that honor their warrantees. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] Routers Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
Imagestream has a great one that's under $600. Another $250 will get them to set it up for you as I understand it. MT routers are also nice. I just don't like the idea of using a PC out where I can't keep an eye on it. Fans go out etc. marlon - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] Routers Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
Yes, I'm serious. Lots of companies offer a lifetime warranty. If they have a good product, they should stand behind it. If their product is junk, then... Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === Yes, we are beta testing ISP Buddy! http://www.ispbuddy.com === - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Hi, Are you serious? You honestly expect a company to honor a warranty for a lifetime, especially on a $30 item? How do you expect them to stay in business? Travis Microserv KyWiFi LLC wrote: We use the Belkin F5D7230-4 wireless router exclusively and I'm proud to report that both us and our subscribers have been VERY pleased with them. We do, however, see a failure rate with them of around 8% - 10% BUT, they have been good about replacing them in a timely manner and have always honored their lifetime warranty. We buy them for $30 - $40 and retail them for $100. Here's a link: http://www.buy.com/prod/Belkin_F5D7230_4_Wireless_G_Router/q/loc/101/201978542.html I'm on a mission right now to align our company with manufacturers, vendors, etc. who offer and honor a lifetime warranty. If someone is only willing to stand behind their product for a year or two, you should question that, I know I do. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === Yes, we are beta testing ISP Buddy! http://www.ispbuddy.com === - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Nothing. We have to deal with low quality in a commodity world. However another way to approach it might be, who has the best RMA policy. Linksys's RMA policy is non-existent, and a provider needs to be prepared to eat any failures. That comment is based on, the many hoops linksys makes you go through before allowing a return, which cost way more to do than the cost to buy a new router. This is the BIG reason, that we have converted 50% of all new installs to NON-Linksys routers. Linksys makes my favorite, Home Router OS, but I can;t stomach giving all my money to those that don't honor their warrantees. Belkin on the other hand has been fabulaous. No questions asked, jsut send it back, and get a new one in a few days. Belkin also has a nice Default portal page you can see before logining in to see private info. Belkin comes with a bundled Content Control trial. Belkon can opperate as an AP (Bridge) or Nat Router, and I think also WDS. The only reason we don't use Belkin for all our installs is that Linksys is what our local distributor carries, and because Belkin had some PPPOE bugs, which prevented it from Auto-reconnecting after a disconnect, unless you reboot it. So we still use Linksys for PPPOE clients. However that PPOE bug was identified over a year ago, maybe its been fixed by now? The Belkin has a higher price tag unfortuneately, but it is a N router, and I prefer to support the vendors that honor their warrantees. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] Routers Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
Jory,I am not a router tech, but we have 3 Imagestream routers in service here, 1 Gateway and 2 of the Rebels. I also have the main Imagestream office on my wireless network and host their server. We made the change to use Imagestream routers in 2000 and have not had any problems. The support staff has done great things to help tweak my wired and wireless network. Their head of sales is Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I would recommend sending him an email and tell him what you need the router to do and he can work with getting you taken care of. They have always been very good to me and the routers work like a charm. Tom Andrews - Original Message - From: "Jory Privett" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.orgSent: Friday, April 14, 2006 16:39Subject: [WISPA] RoutersI am in the market for a new router and came across a company called ImageStream. From everything I can find that make a good product at a fair price. Has anyone ever used one of these or heard anything about them?? Jory Privett WCCS -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Routers
I am in the market for a new router and came across a company called ImageStream. From everything I can find that make a good product at a fair price. Has anyone ever used one of these or heard anything about them?? Jory Privett WCCS -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
Never used them but I hear they are very good. Bo On 4/14/06, Jory Privett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in the market for a new router and came across a company calledImageStream.From everything I can find that make a good product at a fair price.Has anyone ever used one of these or heard anything about them??Jory PrivettWCCS--WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
Bo Hamilton wrote: Never used them but I hear they are very good. Bo Same here. Isn't the owner on this list? George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
I am not sure Jeff Broadwick is on this list but he is on the ISP-wireless list. George wrote: Bo Hamilton wrote: Never used them but I hear they are very good. Bo Same here. Isn't the owner on this list? George --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006, Jory Privett wrote: I am in the market for a new router and came across a company called ImageStream. From everything I can find that make a good product at a fair price. Has anyone ever used one of these or heard anything about them?? I have used them. They are very stable, with TONs of functionality. What are you needing to do with the new router? i.e. What kind of interfaces? -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting http://www.butchevans.com/ Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
