Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
around here, that's US Forest Service or Bureau of Land Management - they have jurisdiction over much of the mountain land here. Blair Davis wrote: FS/BLM?? A. Huppenthal wrote: Any comments on freestanding towers? Apparently the FS/BLM want all new towers to be free standing in many areas. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I won't skip, but I don't want to waste. I want to do it exactly what is needs to be, well, if it's suppose to be a 48 inch hole, I'd do 49. But I don't want to have to do 5 ft. I want to figure enough for the job without wasting material and time. Believe me, I want efficiency, not corner cutting. JohnnyO wrote: CPE - PLUS a climber while it's being installed - Don't skimp Brian - I prob do more things out of specs then most - but that is b/c I add overkill into our tower bases JohnnyO -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Rohrbacher *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2005 9:47 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower I know. On one hand I want it good enough for a CPE, but on the other hand I don't want to hear on the news 20 years from now that it crashed over and killed a guy when he wanted to put his VW Bug on top of it. I want to build it to take whatever people want to put on it. Scott Reed wrote: Only a CPE today, but towers always beg for more equipment. Don't skimp, you never know what you will want/need in the future. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net <http://www.nwwnet.net/> *-- Original Message ---* From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: WISPA General List Sent: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:34:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower > Portland cement has no gravel. I'll mix it 4 parts to one. So.those 15 94 lb bags are like 60 94 lb bags. I had figured I needed 1.28 yards for the hole I dug. But now that I have the specs I will see how big the hole has to be. I will only put a CPE on this tower. Nothing huge. > > Brian > > Mark Koskenmaki wrote: 15 bags of cement won't mean squat in a hole that big. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ *--- End of Original Message ---* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
FS/BLM?? A. Huppenthal wrote: Any comments on freestanding towers? Apparently the FS/BLM want all new towers to be free standing in many areas. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I won't skip, but I don't want to waste. I want to do it exactly what is needs to be, well, if it's suppose to be a 48 inch hole, I'd do 49. But I don't want to have to do 5 ft. I want to figure enough for the job without wasting material and time. Believe me, I want efficiency, not corner cutting. JohnnyO wrote: CPE - PLUS a climber while it's being installed - Don't skimp Brian - I prob do more things out of specs then most - but that is b/c I add overkill into our tower bases JohnnyO -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Rohrbacher *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2005 9:47 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower I know. On one hand I want it good enough for a CPE, but on the other hand I don't want to hear on the news 20 years from now that it crashed over and killed a guy when he wanted to put his VW Bug on top of it. I want to build it to take whatever people want to put on it. Scott Reed wrote: Only a CPE today, but towers always beg for more equipment. Don't skimp, you never know what you will want/need in the future. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net <http://www.nwwnet.net/> *-- Original Message ---* From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: WISPA General List Sent: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:34:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower > Portland cement has no gravel. I'll mix it 4 parts to one. So.those 15 94 lb bags are like 60 94 lb bags. I had figured I needed 1.28 yards for the hole I dug. But now that I have the specs I will see how big the hole has to be. I will only put a CPE on this tower. Nothing huge. > > Brian > > Mark Koskenmaki wrote: 15 bags of cement won't mean squat in a hole that big. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ *--- End of Original Message ---* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
Any comments on freestanding towers? Apparently the FS/BLM want all new towers to be free standing in many areas. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I won't skip, but I don't want to waste. I want to do it exactly what is needs to be, well, if it's suppose to be a 48 inch hole, I'd do 49. But I don't want to have to do 5 ft. I want to figure enough for the job without wasting material and time. Believe me, I want efficiency, not corner cutting. JohnnyO wrote: CPE - PLUS a climber while it's being installed - Don't skimp Brian - I prob do more things out of specs then most - but that is b/c I add overkill into our tower bases JohnnyO -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Rohrbacher *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2005 9:47 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower I know. On one hand I want it good enough for a CPE, but on the other hand I don't want to hear on the news 20 years from now that it crashed over and killed a guy when he wanted to put his VW Bug on top of it. I want to build it to take whatever people want to put on it. Scott Reed wrote: Only a CPE today, but towers always beg for more equipment. Don't skimp, you never know what you will want/need in the future. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net <http://www.nwwnet.net/> *-- Original Message ---* From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: WISPA General List Sent: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:34:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower > Portland cement has no gravel. I'll mix it 4 parts to one. So.those 15 94 lb bags are like 60 94 lb bags. I had figured I needed 1.28 yards for the hole I dug. But now that I have the specs I will see how big the hole has to be. I will only put a CPE on this tower. Nothing huge. > > Brian > > Mark Koskenmaki wrote: 15 bags of cement won't mean squat in a hole that big. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ *--- End of Original Message ---* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
Title: Message I won't skip, but I don't want to waste. I want to do it exactly what is needs to be, well, if it's suppose to be a 48 inch hole, I'd do 49. But I don't want to have to do 5 ft. I want to figure enough for the job without wasting material and time. Believe me, I want efficiency, not corner cutting. JohnnyO wrote: CPE - PLUS a climber while it's being installed - Don't skimp Brian - I prob do more things out of specs then most - but that is b/c I add overkill into our tower bases JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 9:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower I know. On one hand I want it good enough for a CPE, but on the other hand I don't want to hear on the news 20 years from now that it crashed over and killed a guy when he wanted to put his VW Bug on top of it. I want to build it to take whatever people want to put on it. Scott Reed wrote: Only a CPE today, but towers always beg for more equipment. Don't skimp, you never know what you will want/need in the future. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: WISPA General List Sent: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:34:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower > Portland cement has no gravel. I'll mix it 4 parts to one. So.those 15 94 lb bags are like 60 94 lb bags. I had figured I needed 1.28 yards for the hole I dug. But now that I have the specs I will see how big the hole has to be. I will only put a CPE on this tower. Nothing huge. > > Brian > > Mark Koskenmaki wrote: 15 bags of cement won't mean squat in a hole that big. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- End of Original Message --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
Title: Message CPE - PLUS a climber while it's being installed - Don't skimp Brian - I prob do more things out of specs then most - but that is b/c I add overkill into our tower bases JohnnyO -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian RohrbacherSent: Monday, August 22, 2005 9:47 AMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX TowerI know. On one hand I want it good enough for a CPE, but on the other hand I don't want to hear on the news 20 years from now that it crashed over and killed a guy when he wanted to put his VW Bug on top of it. I want to build it to take whatever people want to put on it.Scott Reed wrote: Only a CPE today, but towers always beg for more equipment. Don't skimp, you never know what you will want/need in the future. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: WISPA General List Sent: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:34:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower > Portland cement has no gravel. I'll mix it 4 parts to one. So.those 15 94 lb bags are like 60 94 lb bags. I had figured I needed 1.28 yards for the hole I dug. But now that I have the specs I will see how big the hole has to be. I will only put a CPE on this tower. Nothing huge. > > Brian > > Mark Koskenmaki wrote: 15 bags of cement won't mean squat in a hole that big. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- End of Original Message --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
boy are we lucky out here in rural america. I can get 1 yard tacked on to someone elses load for the regular per yard price. but its like that in a small town rob - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower >I think you have to get something like 7 yards to avoid all the charges and fees for the truck. Yeah, but bad back for the month, costs more. :-( Tom DeReggiRapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower I think you have to get something like 7 yards to avoid all the charges and fees for the truck. I guess I'll let you guys know in 2 months how it went. My brother does concrete for a living, so I hope to cut it down to 1 month because I have a "pro" working for me. :)JohnnyO wrote: 2ft wide x 4ft long x 4ft deep There you go ! You will need 2.4cubic yards of concrete - which means - approx 220 80lb sacks of ready mix - Call in a cement truck for this... You'll be mixing for 2 months by hand :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 11:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower Found it. But now I don't understand exactly how big my hole needs to be. http://www.wb0w.com/shelby/BXCBS1.htm Brian Rohrbacher wrote: As close as I get is the info on page 9 and 10. All I want is the dumb thing to say "dig a hole this by this for a 40 footer." I still have no idea how big of a hole I need. A. Huppenthal wrote: The trouble with mixing your own cement is that there's *never* really enough. Do a 4 x 4 foot pad that's 5 feet deep and you've got lots of concrete. If a cement truck is not an option, rent a mixer. Don't skimp on the plug, it's really hard to add concrete later.. :-) Brian Rohrbacher wrote: That one has 7 sections and mine has 5. I never found the specs for base. I'll keep looking. Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: http://bold98.org/gallery/ProjectsTower Please read this and the manual from the site. You do not have nearly enough concrete for the base. Lonnie On 8/21/05, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
>I think you have to get something like 7 yards to avoid all the charges and fees for the truck. Yeah, but bad back for the month, costs more. :-( Tom DeReggiRapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower I think you have to get something like 7 yards to avoid all the charges and fees for the truck. I guess I'll let you guys know in 2 months how it went. My brother does concrete for a living, so I hope to cut it down to 1 month because I have a "pro" working for me. :)JohnnyO wrote: 2ft wide x 4ft long x 4ft deep There you go ! You will need 2.4cubic yards of concrete - which means - approx 220 80lb sacks of ready mix - Call in a cement truck for this... You'll be mixing for 2 months by hand :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 11:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower Found it. But now I don't understand exactly how big my hole needs to be. http://www.wb0w.com/shelby/BXCBS1.htm Brian Rohrbacher wrote: As close as I get is the info on page 9 and 10. All I want is the dumb thing to say "dig a hole this by this for a 40 footer." I still have no idea how big of a hole I need. A. Huppenthal wrote: The trouble with mixing your own cement is that there's *never* really enough. Do a 4 x 4 foot pad that's 5 feet deep and you've got lots of concrete. If a cement truck is not an option, rent a mixer. Don't skimp on the plug, it's really hard to add concrete later.. :-) Brian Rohrbacher wrote: That one has 7 sections and mine has 5. I never found the specs for base. I'll keep looking. Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: http://bold98.org/gallery/ProjectsTower Please read this and the manual from the site. You do not have nearly enough concrete for the base. Lonnie On 8/21/05, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
Brian – What section number will be your bottom? If you are using Section # 8 as the bottom then you need to use the foundation pad recommendations for Section 8. If so, then you are looking to excavate for a foundation that is 5 ft 9 inches by 5 ft 9 inches and 4 ft deep. Spec’s call for 4.9 yards of concrete at 3000 psi. They also call for #3 rebar – top & bottom – on 12 inch centers. Whatever section it is use the recommended foundation specifications. I would recommend using the concrete base stub to attach to the tower legs. See page 10. Best regards, Jeff From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 7:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower Portland cement has no gravel. I'll mix it 4 parts to one. So.those 15 94 lb bags are like 60 94 lb bags. I had figured I needed 1.28 yards for the hole I dug. But now that I have the specs I will see how big the hole has to be. I will only put a CPE on this tower. Nothing huge. Brian Mark Koskenmaki wrote: 15 bags of cement won't mean squat in a hole that big.North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot netFast Internet, NO WIRES!-- Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:21 PMSubject: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bxtower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
I know. On one hand I want it good enough for a CPE, but on the other hand I don't want to hear on the news 20 years from now that it crashed over and killed a guy when he wanted to put his VW Bug on top of it. I want to build it to take whatever people want to put on it. Scott Reed wrote: Only a CPE today, but towers always beg for more equipment. Don't skimp, you never know what you will want/need in the future. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: WISPA General List Sent: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:34:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower > Portland cement has no gravel. I'll mix it 4 parts to one. So.those 15 94 lb bags are like 60 94 lb bags. I had figured I needed 1.28 yards for the hole I dug. But now that I have the specs I will see how big the hole has to be. I will only put a CPE on this tower. Nothing huge. > > Brian > > Mark Koskenmaki wrote: 15 bags of cement won't mean squat in a hole that big. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- End of Original Message --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
Only a CPE today, but towers always beg for more equipment. Don't skimp, you never know what you will want/need in the future. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: WISPA General List Sent: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:34:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower > Portland cement has no gravel. I'll mix it 4 parts to one. So.those 15 94 lb bags are like 60 94 lb bags. I had figured I needed 1.28 yards for the hole I dug. But now that I have the specs I will see how big the hole has to be. I will only put a CPE on this tower. Nothing huge. > > Brian > > Mark Koskenmaki wrote: 15 bags of cement won't mean squat in a hole that big. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- End of Original Message --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
Ya, I finally understood the diagram. I have to calculate my "w", "x", and "d" to figure the base. http://www.wb0w.com/shelby/BXCBS1.htm Brian Scott Reed wrote: I think folks have pretty much taken care of the base issue. I beleive the recommendations for grounding are to use solid wire, not stranded. If you can, use #2 or larger. The goal with grounding, if it is for lightning protection, is to get the lowest impedance possible to ground. Spread the ground rods out as much as you can. Connect them each to the tower AND to each other. Pick a point in that that is your ground point and make sure everything connects to that one point. For more information on grounding, see: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13235689~mode=flat~days= Not completely about grounding, but lots of helpful info. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13978705 Includes some good diagrams. http://www.startawisp.com/content/category/8/79/58/ A collection of grounding tips. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:21:37 -0400 Subject: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower > I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx > tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. > I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will > thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. > I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, > washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions > for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. > > brian > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- End of Original Message --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
Portland cement has no gravel. I'll mix it 4 parts to one. So.those 15 94 lb bags are like 60 94 lb bags. I had figured I needed 1.28 yards for the hole I dug. But now that I have the specs I will see how big the hole has to be. I will only put a CPE on this tower. Nothing huge. Brian Mark Koskenmaki wrote: 15 bags of cement won't mean squat in a hole that big. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
I think folks have pretty much taken care of the base issue. I beleive the recommendations for grounding are to use solid wire, not stranded. If you can, use #2 or larger. The goal with grounding, if it is for lightning protection, is to get the lowest impedance possible to ground. Spread the ground rods out as much as you can. Connect them each to the tower AND to each other. Pick a point in that that is your ground point and make sure everything connects to that one point. For more information on grounding, see: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13235689~mode=flat~days= Not completely about grounding, but lots of helpful info. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13978705 Includes some good diagrams. http://www.startawisp.com/content/category/8/79/58/ A collection of grounding tips. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:21:37 -0400 Subject: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower > I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx > tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. > I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will > thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. > I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, > washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions > for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. > > brian > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- End of Original Message --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
15 bags of cement won't mean squat in a hole that big. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower > > I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx > tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. > I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will > thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. > I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, > washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions > for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. > > brian > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
oops, here is where pages 9 and 10 are. http://www.antennasystems.com/bxcatalog.pdf Brian Rohrbacher wrote: As close as I get is the info on page 9 and 10. All I want is the dumb thing to say "dig a hole this by this for a 40 footer." I still have no idea how big of a hole I need. A. Huppenthal wrote: The trouble with mixing your own cement is that there's *never* really enough. Do a 4 x 4 foot pad that's 5 feet deep and you've got lots of concrete. If a cement truck is not an option, rent a mixer. Don't skimp on the plug, it's really hard to add concrete later.. :-) Brian Rohrbacher wrote: That one has 7 sections and mine has 5. I never found the specs for base. I'll keep looking. Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: http://bold98.org/gallery/ProjectsTower Please read this and the manual from the site. You do not have nearly enough concrete for the base. Lonnie On 8/21/05, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. brian -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
I think you have to get something like 7 yards to avoid all the charges and fees for the truck. I guess I'll let you guys know in 2 months how it went. My brother does concrete for a living, so I hope to cut it down to 1 month because I have a "pro" working for me. :) JohnnyO wrote: 2ft wide x 4ft long x 4ft deep There you go ! You will need 2.4cubic yards of concrete - which means - approx 220 80lb sacks of ready mix - Call in a cement truck for this... You'll be mixing for 2 months by hand :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 11:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower Found it. But now I don't understand exactly how big my hole needs to be. http://www.wb0w.com/shelby/BXCBS1.htm Brian Rohrbacher wrote: As close as I get is the info on page 9 and 10. All I want is the dumb thing to say "dig a hole this by this for a 40 footer." I still have no idea how big of a hole I need. A. Huppenthal wrote: The trouble with mixing your own cement is that there's *never* really enough. Do a 4 x 4 foot pad that's 5 feet deep and you've got lots of concrete. If a cement truck is not an option, rent a mixer. Don't skimp on the plug, it's really hard to add concrete later.. :-) Brian Rohrbacher wrote: That one has 7 sections and mine has 5. I never found the specs for base. I'll keep looking. Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: http://bold98.org/gallery/ProjectsTower Please read this and the manual from the site. You do not have nearly enough concrete for the base. Lonnie On 8/21/05, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. brian -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
2ft wide x 4ft long x 4ft deep There you go ! You will need 2.4cubic yards of concrete - which means - approx 220 80lb sacks of ready mix - Call in a cement truck for this... You'll be mixing for 2 months by hand :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 11:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower Found it. But now I don't understand exactly how big my hole needs to be. http://www.wb0w.com/shelby/BXCBS1.htm Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > As close as I get is the info on page 9 and 10. All I want is the > dumb thing to say "dig a hole this by this for a 40 footer." I still > have no idea how big of a hole I need. > > > A. Huppenthal wrote: > >> The trouble with mixing your own cement is that there's *never* >> really enough. Do a 4 x 4 foot pad that's 5 feet deep and you've got >> lots of concrete. If a cement truck is not an option, rent a mixer. >> Don't skimp on the plug, it's really hard to add concrete later.. :-) >> >> >> Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >> >>> That one has 7 sections and mine has 5. I never found the specs for >>> base. I'll keep looking. >>> >>> Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: >>> >>>> http://bold98.org/gallery/ProjectsTower >>>> >>>> Please read this and the manual from the site. You do not have >>>> nearly enough concrete for the base. >>>> >>>> Lonnie >>>> >>>> On 8/21/05, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn >>>>> bx tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of >>>>> portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about >>>>> three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the >>>>> tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 >>>>> inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in >>>>> the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 >>>>> bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, >>>>> washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to >>>>> the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions >>>>> for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. >>>>> >>>>> brian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>> >>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
The same size as the one for the 70ft Version Brian - That's how large of a base you need. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 11:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower As close as I get is the info on page 9 and 10. All I want is the dumb thing to say "dig a hole this by this for a 40 footer." I still have no idea how big of a hole I need. A. Huppenthal wrote: > The trouble with mixing your own cement is that there's *never* really > enough. Do a 4 x 4 foot pad that's 5 feet deep and you've got lots of > concrete. If a cement truck is not an option, rent a mixer. Don't > skimp on the plug, it's really hard to add concrete later.. :-) > > > Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > >> That one has 7 sections and mine has 5. I never found the specs for >> base. I'll keep looking. >> >> Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: >> >>> http://bold98.org/gallery/ProjectsTower >>> >>> Please read this and the manual from the site. You do not have >>> nearly enough concrete for the base. >>> >>> Lonnie >>> >>> On 8/21/05, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn >>>> bx tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of >>>> portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about >>>> three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the >>>> tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 >>>> inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in >>>> the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare >>>> stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, >>>> washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the >>>> pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions >>>> for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. >>>> >>>> brian >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
Found it. But now I don't understand exactly how big my hole needs to be. http://www.wb0w.com/shelby/BXCBS1.htm Brian Rohrbacher wrote: As close as I get is the info on page 9 and 10. All I want is the dumb thing to say "dig a hole this by this for a 40 footer." I still have no idea how big of a hole I need. A. Huppenthal wrote: The trouble with mixing your own cement is that there's *never* really enough. Do a 4 x 4 foot pad that's 5 feet deep and you've got lots of concrete. If a cement truck is not an option, rent a mixer. Don't skimp on the plug, it's really hard to add concrete later.. :-) Brian Rohrbacher wrote: That one has 7 sections and mine has 5. I never found the specs for base. I'll keep looking. Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: http://bold98.org/gallery/ProjectsTower Please read this and the manual from the site. You do not have nearly enough concrete for the base. Lonnie On 8/21/05, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. brian -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
As close as I get is the info on page 9 and 10. All I want is the dumb thing to say "dig a hole this by this for a 40 footer." I still have no idea how big of a hole I need. A. Huppenthal wrote: The trouble with mixing your own cement is that there's *never* really enough. Do a 4 x 4 foot pad that's 5 feet deep and you've got lots of concrete. If a cement truck is not an option, rent a mixer. Don't skimp on the plug, it's really hard to add concrete later.. :-) Brian Rohrbacher wrote: That one has 7 sections and mine has 5. I never found the specs for base. I'll keep looking. Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: http://bold98.org/gallery/ProjectsTower Please read this and the manual from the site. You do not have nearly enough concrete for the base. Lonnie On 8/21/05, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. brian -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
The trouble with mixing your own cement is that there's *never* really enough. Do a 4 x 4 foot pad that's 5 feet deep and you've got lots of concrete. If a cement truck is not an option, rent a mixer. Don't skimp on the plug, it's really hard to add concrete later.. :-) Brian Rohrbacher wrote: That one has 7 sections and mine has 5. I never found the specs for base. I'll keep looking. Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: http://bold98.org/gallery/ProjectsTower Please read this and the manual from the site. You do not have nearly enough concrete for the base. Lonnie On 8/21/05, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. brian -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
That one has 7 sections and mine has 5. I never found the specs for base. I'll keep looking. Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: http://bold98.org/gallery/ProjectsTower Please read this and the manual from the site. You do not have nearly enough concrete for the base. Lonnie On 8/21/05, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and will add my own gravel. I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to bolt the tower legs to. I will thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe stubs. Anyone have any suggestions for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. brian -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rohn BX Tower
http://bold98.org/gallery/ProjectsTower Please read this and the manual from the site. You do not have nearly enough concrete for the base. Lonnie On 8/21/05, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I dug a hole 32 inch square by 42 inches deep yesterday for a rohn bx > tower. It is 5 sections of 8 ft. I just got 15 bags of portland cement and > will add my own gravel. > I was thinking about three 1 1/2 inch pieces of pipe stuck in the concrete to > bolt the tower legs to. I will > thread and put couplers on the pipe at 22 inches so they can't move. I've > got some re-bar to chuck down in the hole too. > I've got 3 8ft ground rods and will bond with #4 bare stranded wire. I > picked up a load of grade 8 bolts, > washers, and lock washers for bolting the tower together and to the pipe > stubs. Anyone have any suggestions > for me? This is my first tower. I will pour tomorrow afternoon. > > brian > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/