Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes

2010-11-18 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 11/18/2010 02:07 AM, Tom Reggi wrote: OOps. looks like the HTML tables were lost in transmission. To translate no channels were available. except for 4 of if at 40mw.. Would channels have been available if you were below the 75 meter limit? I'm seriously thinking of writing a Petition f

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes

2010-11-17 Thread Tom DeReggi
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes WOW you are lucky Checkout my availabilty, in the one area I was hoping to have atleast one channel, which is an agricultural reserve full of tall trees Available Channels Fixed

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes

2010-11-17 Thread Tom DeReggi
per band channels be any better than 4watt 900mhz? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV whitespac

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes

2010-11-17 Thread Mike Hammett
According to that page, only 2, 5, and 6 are available for me. Assuming their data is correct, TVWS are almost not even worth my time. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/25/2010 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > 8 Channels around here for me... > > http

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step

2010-09-27 Thread Jack Unger
;> issue. We need to discuss it more and help it mature, it is definitely >> worthwhile to pursue. >> >> Thanks, >> Rick >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of John Sc

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step

2010-09-27 Thread Jeromie Reeves
> worthwhile to pursue. > > Thanks, > Rick > >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of John Scrivner >> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:40 AM >> To: WISPA General List >>

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step

2010-09-27 Thread Rick Harnish
spa.org] On > Behalf Of John Scrivner > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:40 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step > > There is no "staking your claim". I pushed for that as part of a > spectrum homesteading initiative

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step

2010-09-27 Thread Charles N Wyble
On 09/27/2010 08:40 AM, John Scrivner wrote: > There is no "staking your claim". I pushed for that as part of a > spectrum homesteading initiative which WISPA will not support...sadly. Well isn't this what whitespaces is supposed to prevent? Large amounts of exclusive spectrum already exists an

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step

2010-09-27 Thread John Scrivner
There is no "staking your claim". I pushed for that as part of a spectrum homesteading initiative which WISPA will not support...sadly. We probably had a good shot at it through all the lobbying efforts we did but the FCC Committee had people against the idea that building broadband service should

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step

2010-09-27 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 9/27/2010 10:54 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote: > OK so in my area there is a three channel space of 26,27 and, 28 >available. I guess my goal is to camp out on 27, knowing this how to I >stake the claim and start working toward deployment? I know it's >oversimplified but that's where I have to star

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step

2010-09-27 Thread Forbes Mercy
OK so in my area there is a three channel space of 26,27 and, 28 available. I guess my goal is to camp out on 27, knowing this how to I stake the claim and start working toward deployment? I know it's oversimplified but that's where I have to start. Forbes On 9/25/2010 8:37 PM, Mike Hammet

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes

2010-09-25 Thread Philip Dorr
According to that website channels 5-13 and a couple others, that are only 2 channels wide, are available here, but unless the local TV channels completely changed on the DTV switch 5 and 9 are in use. On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >  According to that page, only 2, 5, and

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes

2010-09-25 Thread Mike Hammett
According to that page, only 2, 5, and 6 are available for me. Assuming their data is correct, TVWS are almost not even worth my time. 6 channels are reserved for wireless mics. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/25/2010 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wr

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes

2010-09-25 Thread Mike Hammett
According to that page, only 2, 5, and 6 are available for me. Assuming their data is correct, TVWS are almost not even worth my time. 6 channels are reserved for wireless mics. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/25/2010 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wr

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes

2010-09-25 Thread Josh Luthman
8 Channels around here for me... http://www.spectrumbridge.com/products-services/whitespaces/showmywhitespace/single-location-search.aspx Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: > Th

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes

2010-09-25 Thread Jeromie Reeves
That was where my question was going. 12mhz could let you use a 10mhz channel. Yes we are used to half duplex because that is what most people make. I would love full duplex and with all the mimo gear it just my be possible to do it at a end user acceptable rate. Most of the area I am interested i

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes

2010-09-25 Thread Charles N Wyble
You have to hit show incumbents. If you just hit enter after putting in an address it doesn't show anything. The submit action appears to be the find address button which just finds you on the map. On 9/25/2010 1:52 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > I go to it and it seems there are no available cha

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes

2010-09-25 Thread Mike Hammett
-Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:26 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes > > Ah much better. Now, if

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes

2010-09-25 Thread Mike Hammett
That's another thing to remember... to have any usable throughput you're going to have to find several channels together. With UBNT gear, 6 MHz only yields 15 megabits. MT's N might double that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/25/2010 4:25 AM,

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes

2010-09-25 Thread Brian Webster
ginal Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes Ah much better. Now, if a town has say 4 channels open (in a row) l

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes

2010-09-25 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Ah much better. Now, if a town has say 4 channels open (in a row) like 2 3 4 5, can you use 3 and 4, keeping 2 and 5 as the guard channels? or will you need to pick 3 or 4? On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Blair Davis wrote: > It is broke.  Use http://www.spectrumbridge.com instead. > > > > Josh

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes

2010-09-25 Thread Blair Davis
It is broke.  Use http://www.spectrumbridge.com instead. Josh Luthman wrote: I go to it and it seems there are no available channels anywhere I search. Maybe they're working on it? Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Sui

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes

2010-09-25 Thread Josh Luthman
I go to it and it seems there are no available channels anywhere I search. Maybe they're working on it? Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: > Am

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes

2010-09-25 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Am I the only one its not working for? I get script errors like 'Server Error in '/WSWebGUI' Application.' (and more info snipped). Scripts are turned on in FireFox on Linux and Windows, and IE does not have any changes from default (it is never used). Clicking on channels jumps it to the default v

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - M$ contributes

2010-09-24 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
looks awfully similar to what is on Spectrum Bridge's web site... :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 9/24/2010 6:48 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: >http://whitespaces

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-20 Thread Jack Unger
he code that says you can use the same "type" > of lower gain. > And no one at the FCC will stick their neck out far enough to say which one > trumps the other. > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-20 Thread Chuck McCown
" Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces >I don't see how what I said was any different than what Blair said, nor how > what Blair said was any indication of using something that wouldn't be > approved. > > If the rules

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-20 Thread Mike Hammett
;Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:09 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces > Sorry Mike. I try to limit my time to responding only to serious, > thoughtful comments. I don't normally respond to smart-a** co

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-20 Thread John Valenti
see Antenna Requirements on page 101. Fixed device transmit antenna limited to MAX 30 meters high, also the receive antenna must be MIN 10 meter high. On Nov 20, 2008, at 2:48 AM, Jack Unger wrote: > I don't think Fresnel is going to be too much of a problem. Which page > did you pick up that a

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:43 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces > >> They did state that they plan to take another look at this

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Jack Unger
Butch, Your analysis looks good. I'm still reading through the rules and I WILL be commenting just as soon as I get through it all. :) I don't think Fresnel is going to be too much of a problem. Which page did you pick up that antenna height requirement from? jack Butch Evans wrote: > On Wed

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Jack Unger wrote: >Sorry Mike. I try to limit my time to responding only to serious, >thoughtful comments. I don't normally respond to smart-a** comments >because I just don't have any time to waste on them. Ouch! :-) Has anyone done an RF propagation study in your area f

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Jack Unger
t; - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:12 PM > To: "WISPA General Li

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Brian Webster
com> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Laura Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces Unless I am looking at it wrong it looks like New Orleans has 10 channels that I can use. This is go

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Mike Hammett
ttp://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:12 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces > Thanks! Something similar (maybe a little more selective and a little >

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Mike Hammett
ovember 19, 2008 3:43 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces > They did state that they plan to take another look at this band in 5 > years. > > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Joe Laura
: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces > Joe, > > The White Spaces are the unused television channels. In most major metro > areas, many of the channels are in use by television broadcasters and > other lic

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Jack Unger
McCown - 3 wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> For adjacent channel use, we don't have to use a 6 MHz channel. We could >>>>> use 5 or 4 or whatever it takes to make it work. >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>&

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Blair Davis
hannel use, we don't have to use a 6 MHz channel. We could use 5 or 4 or whatever it takes to make it work. - Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Blair Davis
to make it work. - Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces Directional antennas and other interference-av

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Jack Unger
. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:32 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces >>> >>> >>

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Blair Davis
x27;t have to use a 6 MHz channel. We could use 5 or 4 or whatever it takes to make it work. - Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Jack Unger
use, we don't have to use a 6 MHz channel. We could > use 5 or 4 or whatever it takes to make it work. > - Original Message - > From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday, November

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
For adjacent channel use, we don't have to use a 6 MHz channel. We could use 5 or 4 or whatever it takes to make it work. - Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:32 PM Subj

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces > Direction

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces > Perhaps once TVWS gets used and it proves a success, then th

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Jack Unger
> To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:19 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces > > > >> Anything's possible but look at the shape of a DTV waveform and compare >> it to the shape of an OFDM broadband wireless signal.

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Chuck McCown
Hopefully forward error correction and directional antennas will make it possible. - Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces > Anythi

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Jack Unger
ed and it proves a success, then they will open up > adjacent channels. > Once they do that there will be holes everywhere. > > - Original Message - > From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Chuck McCown
New Orleans? TIA >> Joe Laura >> Superior Alarm/Wireless >> New Orleans,La. >> www.superior1.com >> - Original Message - >> From: Blair Davis >> To: WISPA General List >> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV W

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-19 Thread Jack Unger
Original Message - > From: Blair Davis > To: WISPA General List > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:47 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces > > > Ubquity? Some kind of mini-pci card? > > Charles Wyble wrote: > Mike Hammett wrote: > Now that TV white

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces PtP Backhaul

2008-11-18 Thread Blair Davis
: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces PtP Backhaul Look at the BLONDER TONGUE BTY-10-U UHF single channel units Third photo down on the left. I'd look hard at these as CPE antennas... Steve Barnes wrote: That's scary. And that's

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces PtP Backhaul

2008-11-18 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Wonder why it attached the reply... - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] T

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-18 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Mac Dearman wrote: >- -as I used Brains tool Mac, I'll believe a lot of things, but I don't believe that you used "Brains" anything. ;-) -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consul

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces PtP Backhaul

2008-11-18 Thread John Valenti
Could you elaborate on why this is a bad idea? I'm slightly interested in it for low cost connections. In my current area, I don't have a problem finding grain legs for AP sites. These would be dense enough that I could build a great network with white spaces cells and 5GHz backhauls. But

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-18 Thread Mac Dearman
November 18, 2008 9:17 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces > > Am I hearing correctly that this new space can only be utilized in > rural areas? Not for Citys like New Orleans? TIA > Joe Laura > Superior Alarm/Wireless > New Orleans,La. > www.s

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces PtP Backhaul

2008-11-18 Thread Steve Barnes
al Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces PtP Backhaul For an idea of antenna size... look at a TV antenna. Same band, same size antenna for

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces PtP Backhaul

2008-11-18 Thread Mike Hammett
day, November 17, 2008 9:45 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces PtP Backhaul > Even in our area in eastern Indiana there is lots of 5.8 still available > for PTP. 700 PTP is not necessary in my opinion. > > I am concerned about 700 Mhz antenna sizes.

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-18 Thread Rick Harnish
. Respectfully, Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Laura Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces Am I hearing correctly that this new space can only be utilized in

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-18 Thread Joe Laura
5:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces Ubquity? Some kind of mini-pci card? Charles Wyble wrote: Mike Hammett wrote: Now that TV whitespaces have been approved for our use, let's hear from the vendors. When, how much, and what will you do with it? Indeed! Who woul

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces PtP Backhaul

2008-11-17 Thread reader
I've got territory ranging from a town of 35K to open wheat fields to rolling to tall mountains heavily forested. I can find no particular need for, and in fact, find that low frequency backhauls are at least sometimes self-defeating, due to huge Fresnel zones, for instance. What I need, in p

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces PtP Backhaul

2008-11-17 Thread John Scrivner
> > I am concerned about 700 Mhz antenna sizes. Aren't sectors going to be > huge to get the 4 watt at the antenna? To be clear, TVWS is different than 700 MHz. The 700 MHz band sold at auction. TVWS is lower in frequency which will mean even larger antennas for equivalent gain. The physics of i

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces PtP Backhaul

2008-11-17 Thread Josh Luthman
I don't recall the exact length but we have an enormous fiberglass 450 mhz omni on our tower. At least 12 ft and it withstood the hurricane of Ohio with 60 mph winds a few months back. On 11/17/08, Steve Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even in our area in eastern Indiana there is lots of 5.8

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces PtP Backhaul

2008-11-17 Thread Blair Davis
At these freqs, I'd suspect that yagi's will be the best choice for cpe's. Steve Barnes wrote: Even in our area in eastern Indiana there is lots of 5.8 still available for PTP. 700 PTP is not necessary in my opinion. I am concerned about 700 Mhz antenna sizes. Aren't sectors going to b

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces PtP Backhaul

2008-11-17 Thread Steve Barnes
Even in our area in eastern Indiana there is lots of 5.8 still available for PTP. 700 PTP is not necessary in my opinion. I am concerned about 700 Mhz antenna sizes. Aren't sectors going to be huge to get the 4 watt at the antenna? I am also concerned about the CPE Panel size. Going from a 15

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces PtP Backhaul

2008-11-17 Thread John Scrivner
We have been fighting it. Towerstream seems to have somehow created a perception that they are justified in this desire to set aside TVWS spectrum for this inefficient use. We have been fighting it and we will continue to do so. Scriv On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-17 Thread Blair Davis
Ubquity?  Some kind of mini-pci card? Charles Wyble wrote: Mike Hammett wrote: Now that TV whitespaces have been approved for our use, let's hear from the vendors. When, how much, and what will you do with it? Indeed! Who would the likely vendors in this space be?

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-17 Thread Gino Villarini
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces Ultimately, I imagine anyone that has a product we use now will be there. First? Ubiquiti, no doubt. They are very fast at developing products and already have a

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-17 Thread Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Charles Wyble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:31 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces > Mike Hammett wrot

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-17 Thread Travis Johnson
nday, November 17, 2008 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces Mike Hammett wrote: Now that TV whitespaces have been approved for our use, let's hear from the vendors. When, how much, and what will you do with it? Indeed! Who would the likely

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-17 Thread Chuck McCown
onths or a year before anybody is shipping any quantity of anything. - Original Message - From: "Charles Wyble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces > Mike Hammett wrote: &g

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-17 Thread Charles Wyble
Mike Hammett wrote: > Now that TV whitespaces have been approved for our use, let's hear from the > vendors. When, how much, and what will you do with it? > Indeed! Who would the likely vendors in this space be? Should we put an RFP together and send it around? I sure want answers to your

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-17 Thread Tom DeReggi
neral List" Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces > Everyone remember that I sent out a Google Earth file of what should be > most > of the digital TV footprint in America after February. That is subject to > change of course but it's c

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
7;s hard to cover due > to trees. > > Even my 900 stuff didn't go past 5 blocks in my testing. > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Brian Webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA Ge

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-17 Thread reader
5 blocks in my testing. - Original Message - From: "Brian Webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces > Everyone remember that I se

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces

2008-11-17 Thread Tom DeReggi
Daniel, Comments inline... > But I agree... 4 watts EIRP... 1 watt out of the radio. Which is enough, for many Fixed applications. > Fixed devices cannot use adjacent channels... but portable can at > reduced EIRP (which I > can't recall what that was). Which is just about what WISPA asked

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-11-17 Thread Brian Webster
Everyone remember that I sent out a Google Earth file of what should be most of the digital TV footprint in America after February. That is subject to change of course but it's close. You would use that tool to find available channels in your area. It works great because you can turn on the channel

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces

2008-11-17 Thread Jack Unger
Yep. I'm still reading too but so far it looks like we got 90% of what we asked for. My reading continues... 3-dB Networks wrote: > I'm about 30 pages in or so... and realized I should be taking notes... I > hope to finish it in the next few days too. > > But I agree... 4 watts EIRP... 1 watt out

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces

2008-11-17 Thread Jack Unger
www.fcc.gov Gino Villarini wrote: > Link? > > > Gino A. Villarini > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer > Sent: Monday, Nov

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces

2008-11-17 Thread 3-dB Networks
I'm about 30 pages in or so... and realized I should be taking notes... I hope to finish it in the next few days too. But I agree... 4 watts EIRP... 1 watt out of the radio. Fixed devices cannot use adjacent channels... but portable can at reduced EIRP (which I can't recall what that was). Autom

Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces

2008-11-17 Thread Gino Villarini
Link? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 11:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

2008-06-29 Thread tonylist
Mike Right now it is in draft but very close to going to the next stage. But there is a lot more going on here than just a standard. - The 802.22 is setting a precedence, besides the engineers that are creating 802.22 also involved are the incumbents that hold the TV channels and they hav

Re: [WISPA] tv whitespaces filings

2007-03-08 Thread wispa
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:32:02 -0800, Alan Cain wrote > Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Over time, I have attempted to respond to a number of things, and I NEVER find the page to do so. The FCC has one of the most obscure organizational methods I have ever run into. I remember having to

Re: [WISPA] tv whitespaces filings

2007-03-08 Thread Alan Cain
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Good grief guys, there are only 12 new filings in the last week or so!! I don't have a cute secretary like Mary, Marlon. **200738030387** -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wi

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2007-02-27 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
ot; Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tv whitespaces dates! WOW Marlon K. Schafer wrote: H, We need to work on this. We want to oppose the personal portable devices at this time. We don't want to see a bunch of linksys type routers with 2 mile ranges!!

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2007-02-27 Thread Larry Yunker
ot;WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tv whitespaces dates! WOW Marlon K. Schafer wrote: H, We need to work on this. We want to oppose the personal portable devices at this time. We don't want to see a bunch of linksys type router

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2007-02-27 Thread George Rogato
Marlon K. Schafer wrote: H, We need to work on this. We want to oppose the personal portable devices at this time. We don't want to see a bunch of linksys type routers with 2 mile ranges Any ideas on how to go about it? marlon Marlon Can you explain the strategy of opposing perso

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2007-02-27 Thread Ron Wallace
Hammers??? >-Original Message- >From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 02:00 AM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Subject: Re: [WISPA] tv whitespaces dates! WOW > >H, > >We need to work on this. We want to op

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2007-02-27 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
what did you say? - Original Message - From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:10 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] tv whitespaces dates! WOW I sent Senator Sununu an email last night :-)

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2007-02-27 Thread Mac Dearman
I sent Senator Sununu an email last night :-) Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 1:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tv whitespaces dates! WOW H, We need

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2007-02-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
IL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:25 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] tv whitespaces dates! WOW Could this be true or am I dreaming? Pinch me please http://www.tvtechnology.com/pages/s.0014/t.2200.html Mac Dearman -Original Message---

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2007-02-26 Thread Mac Dearman
: RE: [WISPA] tv whitespaces filings Precision Data Solutions, LLC 2007226668971 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Renner Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 3:26 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] tv whitespac

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2007-02-26 Thread Eric Rogers
Precision Data Solutions, LLC 2007226668971 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Renner Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 3:26 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] tv whitespaces filings NetsurfUSA filled - 2007223533

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2007-02-25 Thread Dave Hulsebus
Portative filed. : **2007225097486** David Hulsebus Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > Good grief guys, there are only 12 new filings in the last week or > so!! > > Why, in the name of God, would the FCC give a rats behind about our > industry if we can't be bothered to talk to

Re: [WISPA] tv whitespaces filings

2007-02-25 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
2007225610045 Tom DeReggi wrote: Filing complete.  '2007225311218 Although, I avoided proposed rules details, as it was already well expressed by other WISPA filers. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message -

Re: [WISPA] tv whitespaces filings

2007-02-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
Filing complete. '2007225311218 Although, I avoided proposed rules details, as it was already well expressed by other WISPA filers. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: [WISPA] tv whitespaces filings

2007-02-24 Thread David Hughes
We too have filed a comment with the FCC and while we agreed with WISPA's stand and used 95 percent of Marlon's work, we also personalized some of the comments to make them specific to Loudoun County's needs, demographics, typography and population. Just cutting and pasting is fine, I guess, but

Re: [WISPA] tv whitespaces filings

2007-02-24 Thread RickG
Short but sweet ;) Your Confirmation Number is: '2007224246238 ' -RickG On 2/23/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good grief guys, there are only 12 new filings in the last week or so!! Why, in the name of God, would the FCC give a rats behind about our industr

RE: [WISPA] tv whitespaces filings

2007-02-24 Thread Mark McElvy
I filed, 2007224308481 Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ma

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2007-02-24 Thread Martha Huizenga
I have filed too! Martha Huizenga DC Access Cliff Leboeuf wrote: Done too! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Renner Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 2:26 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] tv whitespac

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