Re: master slave dialectic ~

2006-03-17 Thread Thomas savage
Hi Steve, having read the email poem you're commenting on, I agree that your question makes sense. However, wasn't it Jack Micheline, one of your heroes, who wrote in his most famous poem: "I tell you, I tell you, all people are enslaved"? As a nonblack who feels enslaved to the American system,

Bluebeard's Retreat

2006-03-15 Thread Thomas savage
Bluebeard's Retreat*I am always with you, Like a handsome brother. The windows hear rumors But only rattle back. All that glitters is not sunlight. Give me the keys To your stream of blood. Who washes hands here But the bricks and the moon? Blood stained jewels Echo the death Of

The Force of Destiny

2006-03-13 Thread Thomas savage
The Force of Destiny*There's a plan for me And for you, too, Although maybe not the same one. Your glory is gory. Your coincidences make me itch.Tom Savage 3/7/06*Written while watching La Forza Del Destino by Giuseppe Verdi at the Metropolitan Opera, New York City

Re: sweet 16 and never been kissed

2006-03-08 Thread Thomas savage
If you don't want to talk about Friday, that is probably the day you should be talking about.morrigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Saturday he took me from behind while I was peeling potatoes. On Sunday he got on top of me and the bed shook with every thrust. On Monday he was tired, so

Help Division

2006-03-08 Thread Thomas savage
Help Division*Does your chronicle mention me? I am more prevalent near your end. When light obscures your scratches, Ask some birds who talk to you To explain all the meanings for you. My country belongs to you. You can let me in or out. There is an entry into speech Both disturbed

Re: call for h u n d r e d s

2006-03-07 Thread Thomas savage
Apparently, the author pays for his own copies, unless some clarification of this matter arrives after it is fully stated. This is twice as many copies as Tamarind, Steve, but it apparently works the same way. Just as the Unbearables Assembling Mag used to.Steve Dalachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Live Without Fear

2006-03-07 Thread Thomas savage
Live Without FearTake the body To the next level. It was delightful Working with you, Arms and/or legs. How about a Head cut, hair? Get the dance right. My body is my mascot. My pet is a cat Or was. She died At sixteen, five years ago. Now I have a cell phone But nobody to call.

Meet You At The End of Time

2006-03-06 Thread Thomas savage
Meet You At The End of Time*Call him a saint and he'll kill you. Go to your Heaven if you remember the way. Self-advertisements are confused by identity theft. You don't belong in one place. Call my name, someone else steps forward. The faces you see are familiar. Their stories are

Traveling Man

2006-03-03 Thread Thomas savage
Traveling ManModify peace in your valley Into peace in mine. If you go your way and I Go mine, may we not Find ourselves together again? Lost and found in your charms Are some spells I once knew but have forgotten. The day this house was built We found someone on the roof. Everything

Help Division

2006-03-02 Thread Thomas savage
Help Division* Does your chronicle mention me? I am more prevalent near your ending. When light obscures your scratches, Ask some birds who talk to you To explain all meanings for you. My country belongs to you. You can let me in or out. There is an entry into speech Both disturbed

Initiation In The Cube

2006-02-27 Thread Thomas savage
Initiation In The Cube*Initiation in the cube. You go in as a shadow And emerge with flesh tones dancing. Who gets the chance and why? All the men move together, Lifting one another in each other's arms. When women emerge they are fewer And move further apart. Free form ululations.

Fallen Idols

2006-02-24 Thread Thomas savage
Fallen Idols*Rise up again you bits of exploded stone. Pumice by the furnace of time. Re-inhabit the bodies you once represented. There is nothing to admit or exclude. Own my crisis or yours.What we remember... What will you forget? What can we offer The snake in his box?

Verdicts

2006-02-22 Thread Thomas savage
Verdicts*Give justice a chance. Believe what you want to believe. You hear bargains on the brain. All things change, even you. Know what you're doing Or know someone who does. Your mistakes live with you. You like the story you haven't heard. Get back to me with an honest face. We

Re: What I Hate (about Harry Whittington)

2006-02-15 Thread Thomas savage
I understand why you feel this way. Still, after a moment of compassion for the man who had a heart attack today because of Cheney's misfire, we could look at this incident as symbolic of the whole Iraq mess and be reminded of it by Cheney shooting the wrong man. In short, we or our government, I

Hot Rain in the Forest

2006-02-14 Thread Thomas savage
Hot Rain in the Forest*Leave Jesus on the shelf while here. Any ghost who wants to haunt you Has to pay for the privelege or duty.If you meet Tibetans In an African jungle, Do you run or smile?Formless creatures scurry Back into the forest. But how could you or I see them? Now

Walking Backwards?

2006-02-10 Thread Thomas savage
Walking Backwards?*Sorry.Pantomime walking backwards.The magic recitation of desires.Jumping fires Through purple pink fences. Quiet and clear charge/change.War or workWalk through flight but keep on movingPersiflage accepted.Tom Savage 12/24/05*Written at a

Hecuba or Hecate?

2006-02-08 Thread Thomas savage
Hecuba or Hecate?*Life is a human sacrifice We enter and leave beyond our will By the banks of belief and desire. Pass all belief onward. The law of customs crumbles. Air comes out well but withers. Will you join it? You may not have a choice. The distributors of chaos wiggle. Be

Re: Little Play, 1 Act, 3 scenes.

2006-01-26 Thread Thomas savage
I'd be curious to know if this is a collaborative work or, if not, that the author listed at the end of the play made up little speeches for so many of the writers who participate in this list.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Little Play, 1 Act, 3 scenes.Scene 1.Dan Waber: The silence between wordsLanny

A Newer World

2006-01-24 Thread Thomas savage
A Newer World*I need a newer world Than the one I supposedly inhabit. Where do I look? Outer space is out of my budget. How far does my scale slide?Old maps don't take us To new places, even inside us, Very often. The essential departure is missing, The knowledge of who I am And

Poem Heard In A Dream

2005-12-23 Thread Thomas savage
Poem Heard In A Dream I brought with me This wrench To deconstruct Your universe. (A female voice laughs.)Tom Savage 12/22/05 Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping

Tangerines and String Quartets

2005-12-20 Thread Thomas savage
Tangerines and String Quartets*I'm happy doing nothing. Time to get started. Continue the temporary And it becomes permanent Or almost, that is. Crash into some buildings And erase them with sand. The fish need to move to new dwellings, Swelling their gills As if they were their only

Open Heart Surgery?

2005-12-09 Thread Thomas savage
Could Love Be Called Open Heart Surgery?*May your ruins bear flowers. There seems to be more light everywhere now. Is decapitated Mickey the dark we discard? Dark and light are or could be a duality They transcend themselves. Forfeit the game if it seems to reject you And it dissolves

Re: ok, the buddha stuff my is running out of steam.

2005-12-08 Thread Thomas savage
The latest absurdity to come out of all this stuff about Iraq, terrorism, Bush, etc. is the new hateful redefinition of the word "rendition". What used to be, say, Sinatra's rendition of a song or Van Gogh's rendition of a scene has now become a hateful kidnapping and transporting of "suspects"

What Gall or Gaul?

2005-12-07 Thread Thomas savage
What Gall or Gaul?* Romans ploughed the fields with them. Today, are they the French? Do our vines have such tender grapes?Use your mind or lose it. Even though it can be regained, The daily pain involved is vast.Make me with care. I've already been unmade. I don't need to go

Re: Fudge

2005-11-30 Thread Thomas savage
Could it be that Mahayanists are more relaxed about this than Theravadins? My Buddhist training is Theravada. Zen is Mahayana so who knows? I remember the Tibetan teacher Chogyam Trungpa was quite a drinker, also."John M. Bennett" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm, some of those Zen monks would/will

Re: Fudge

2005-11-29 Thread Thomas savage
I take it that you are referring to Christian, thus Catholic, monks here. Didn't they used to make wine in monasteries in France? It seems unlikely to me that Buddhist monks anywhere in the world would make either winre or fudgeas this might be encouraging intoxication, something which Buddhist

Re: self-pity leads to run on sentences

2005-11-28 Thread Thomas savage
Do you remember who gave the Japanese this tooth, Steve? If it was the Burmese, that would be pretty amazing, given what the Japanese did in their country during WW II.Steve Dalachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they claim to have buddha's tooth gotama's tooth in hiroshima tooi visited that tooth

Re: self-pity leads to run on sentences

2005-11-22 Thread Thomas savage
May I suggest a poem by James Schuyler called "Self-Pity Is A Kind of Lying, Too". The Buddha both does and doesn't exist, somehow he or his teachings are still a lot more than just another bone. There are relics, however. It was a big deal to the countries involved when a tooth of the Buddha was

Poem or Song?

2005-11-07 Thread Thomas savage
Poem or Song? Ain't she sweet? It ain't necessarily so. Tell it to me confidentially So I may spread it abroad. Your ending surprised me In that all of us went on. Open-ended and closed simultaneously. The boat dances To the waves' strut. As the tempo picks up We slow down to it Long enough to

The Perfect Gift

2005-10-26 Thread Thomas savage
The Perfect Gift* Take your music And face the chances. Feel suffocated Then breathe. Tennis is an illusion But only one of many. Bring us back To where you brought me from. Don't let dust gather In the stack room Of the mind. He or she who must Live the music Must make the correct gesture Both

Musical Beowulf

2005-10-21 Thread Thomas savage
Musical Beowulf* Slay all the monsters you want. You'll be left alone with me. Even heroes have to sleep So we create the night for them. Not every monster's arm needs a hand. Redeemable honor crawls in a dishonest time. Don't kick the sky Unless you want it to bite you back. Evolve or revolve

Prove What?

2005-10-19 Thread Thomas savage
Prove What?* Have it all? Your friend in the sandbox At least isn't in a coffin. Drive whenever you want. Going back to the school of life, The humble student's eyes grow. Do anything you want with me That will make us both happy. You don't have to prove to me That art matters. It's all in our

Re: Movie: Good Night, And Good Luck (fwd)

2005-10-19 Thread Thomas savage
I'd like to add only to this wonderful review, with which I completely agree, that David Strathairn was a dynamite St. John The Baptist in Oscar Wilde's Salome on Broadway several seasons back. What a range! From St. John to Edward R. Murrow!Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --

Good Space

2005-10-17 Thread Thomas savage
Good Space* Uphold space. On the ultimate writing machines, Imagination is more important than knowledge. Live up to your name. Search for yourself until you find it Then start all over again. Fixation on anything Usually is not good. What, then is inspiration? How goodness is measured Depends

Political Philosophical Poem

2005-10-11 Thread Thomas savage
Political Philosophical Poem* Be affected by phenomena. Leave numbness to the dead. They like it. So it belongs to them. Show them the money And they laugh loudly or quietly The more and more of it you show. When your miracle Turns out to be a wet napkin, Did you renounce your mistake Or

Torn Paper Poem

2005-10-07 Thread Thomas savage
Torn Paper Poem Love his face, I guess. Screw it down so as to have You seriously. I drew it While eating a banana, see? He's leaving. Let's follow him. He needs to see it close. His students ate him anyway. How many look to see one minute. The next minute it's another joy. Still, they were

Fact or Friction

2005-10-05 Thread Thomas savage
Fact or Fiction* Look at these fictional characters To whom such dramatic things must happen Often in quick succession. Are we not glad we are not them? Our intermissions are longer than theirs; Our crises more human. Our days and nights are mostly mundane. Why do we not cherish them more? Tom

Who Killed New Orleans?

2005-10-05 Thread Thomas savage
Who Killed New Orleans? The end of America has begun. The powerful are powerless to stop it. What comes from nature or from terrorists Serves a higher purpose. These Americans who ravage the earth To advance their collection of inanimate objects Must be eliminated Before they destroy the whole

Picnic on Water

2005-10-04 Thread Thomas savage
Picnic on Water* A perfect chest for a man Involves breasts that are hard. When hitchhiking became impossible Did your feet cry? With confidence, you can picnic on water While those around you Blot themselves out with wine. Pick your own reserves to rely on. Your boat still needs a river as I

Gallows Humor?

2005-10-03 Thread Thomas savage
Gallows Humor?* Relearn how to read. We can help. However, You must be the eyes. Make sure the oncoming car Stops as you cross afront it. Race against the time you never had. We nearly lived together many times. Advance. Retreat. Don't look back. Run forward! Guilty bystanders re-arise In their

Tosca Poem

2005-09-28 Thread Thomas savage
Poem* Mrs. Overcoat has a theatrical memory. When the statue wiggles, don't mistake it for a wink. For every key there is a dooor. A bath may be on order soon. Recognize harmony and join in. Aha, they cry together, Touch-appointing for grownups. Not so up close but still very personal,

Re: found poem

2005-09-16 Thread Thomas savage
Very funny, Steve. What movie was this taken from? Could be the Titanic, a movie I've not committed to memory so it's only a guess. Only kidding.Steve Dalachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: found poemStu- Make List liketranslated as star - maker listDavid Does _love GextensionLOWER Deck WinDoW TO6"

Asylum Gardens

2005-09-14 Thread Thomas savage
Asylum Gardens* Something in the water. Dead birds and a lot of dreams. The squall sets out from your mind. Protection or resurrection. Have you disappeared from your own life? Seekers and finders. Keepers and losers. How do you measure a life? How do they? Involve yourself in life Or it will

Buzz?*

2005-08-30 Thread Thomas savage
Buzz?* Operations from underneath? The patient retains it's color. Mr. Liszt smiles from far and near. He's not on anybody's list tonight For uncalculated or miscalculated errors. Kali Yuga continues infar away Iraq, A country Franz made no pilgrimage to As far as I know and which may Not even

Re: my work is no longer valid

2005-08-25 Thread Thomas savage
Although I think this is really funny and a good description of many experimental movies and/or poems, it does remind me of the time when experimental movies were known as underground movies. This appellation was useful, I now realize in retrospect, because if the movie turned out to be bad, as

Re: Tzara Poem

2005-08-22 Thread Thomas savage
It was a marvelous performance of a play I performed in many years ago in a staged reading probably as part of a poetry project workshop. I was glad to see it done professionally and with some other interesting plays as well. Thanks for asking, TomSteve Dalachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how was

Tzara Poem

2005-08-19 Thread Thomas savage
Poem* Balance the world on my head. Wear your stomach around your neck. It agrees with you. Nothingness no longer bothers to exist. So it sings instead of blushing. Take leave now For the kingdom of words Follows you wherever And whenever you go. Tom Savage 8/18/05 *Written at a performance of

Broken Blossoms

2005-08-18 Thread Thomas savage
Broken Blossoms* Ripe harvest: The woman who kisses your hand May be looking for a little grace From the sun. You understand women; I understand men. There are always choices; We have already made them. Crazy guesses and wild intuitions Open a window on the soul. True life stories. Appearance

One More Aurora

2005-08-17 Thread Thomas savage
One More Aurora The last memories of August sunlight Still flicker behind closed eyelids As the brain searches for sleep. As an escape from heat humidity Images from once distant dreams And those as yet unformed Surface in the lightened darkness here. They rear the heads of ghosts From the not

Getting Your Balls Back

2005-08-12 Thread Thomas savage
Getting Your Balls Back* Take off your pants if you have some. A dress will do if that's what you're wearing today. This theater is full But you're the only one breathing. Every saint has a future. All sinners have pasts. Reactionary dentists protect you from pain Until you leave their chairs.

Re: Peat

2005-08-12 Thread Thomas savage
Is Pete in a peat bog over this one? I feel I am, slightly, TomSteve Dalachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pete__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: Marsupials' Waltz ---AH Freemix #0001

2005-08-11 Thread Thomas savage
Dear August, this is the first time I've received two "deconstructed" versions of my poem in less than twenty-four hours. How do you do this? Also since the words "dope" and "junkie" weren't in the original, I assume those words to be yours, not mine. Anyway, apart from these repeated words which

Cyrano's Song

2005-08-11 Thread Thomas savage
Cyrano's Song Detach my head And wear it As I sing. Whose words? Who knows? The nose knows But isn't telling. It just goes on Inhale/exhale As almost always Til someone dies. Whose name we Attach to this poem Matters little, then, My friend. Tom Savage 5/15/05 Yahoo! Mail for

Re: you

2005-08-11 Thread Thomas savage
Dear Steve, I may indeed try to do this soon. So far, I haven't acquired the facility yet to write directly onto the computer I use five days a week outside my home. I write my poems longhand or on a typewriter, sometimes, then transfer them to the computer. Still, I understand what you mean by

Marsupials' Waltz

2005-08-10 Thread Thomas savage
Marsupials' Waltz* Never stop dancing. Invite some birds in For a turn. Maybe they'll teach you How to fly. Be kind to those Who've forgotten how. Teach them to dance, anyway. A pilgrimage to the womb Is advisable only for some. Open your mouth slowly And give me life. If your ballet is clumsy,

Re: you

2005-08-10 Thread Thomas savage
These poems or works I see like this on this listserv and other places seem to be trying to outdo or under-do the great Samuel Beckett whose works got shorter as he got older. It is my suggestion that they do not succeed in this regard. I have now seen many such entries both here and sometimes in

Personal Moonwalk

2005-08-08 Thread Thomas savage
My Personal Moonwalk* Which planet has my moon And will it let me through and on? Floating in space was and is so much fun. Could my moon grow to be a full planet While I'm on it? I promise Not to try to take credit For any transformation I may witness. I am here and so are you. Seneca wouldn't

Manuscript Copy

2005-08-03 Thread Thomas savage
Manuscript Copy* The end of the book Is the beginning of the wall. One season per day? We leave the reasons To the clouds. Choreograph your prance. Then dance Outside our boundaries. How did your revival Precede your premiere? Your names are screaming Out from the corners of my room. Enter my

Spanning Peter

2005-08-02 Thread Thomas savage
Spanning Peter* You don't have it but I do. This is the beginning of most Of the world's problems As well as troubles between individuals On a more intimate scale. Good fortune to your fortune cookies. If you lose them, they can be replaced. A true master needs few props. Something comic may be

Intimacy

2005-08-01 Thread Thomas savage
Intimacy or the Illusion Thereof Elective affinity. Thank the wolf. Raise Aphrodite from the deep with pulleys. They went to the estate of Edward Had-Merits. Herre's a gift of some gray hairs. Your name day is named Wednesday for Wotan, Your window in my forehead through which You know

Pipa Poem

2005-07-29 Thread Thomas savage
Twnga Twang For Min Xiao-Fen Play me a koto, a lute, or a pipa But emphasize the distaff, off-staff notes, please. Someday you'll play like this, Merry If you spend a couple of happy lives At the koto factory. So hit that box, too. John Cage kisses you. All ancestors descend to our ceiling. It

Crematorium Dance

2005-07-28 Thread Thomas savage
Crematorium Dance* Can't wait to get buried? Get a lift to your tomb. It's a subterranean journey With only a few let ups or letdowns. The understanding of causes and effects Distinguishes most adults from most children. Snails know more than how to deliver mail. Where is the thunder? It often

Run, Doggie, Run

2005-07-27 Thread Thomas savage
Run, Doggie, Run This corpse has a feast without moving. Install the bed; bring back the dead. Everything starts on time. Your ending may be less specifically situated Although it remains spiritually intact As well as perfectly courtesy-trained. The life must go on and on. Just ask any breath

God's Backbone

2005-07-26 Thread Thomas savage
God's Backbone* You still look better than dead As long as you keep your palate moving. Always take care of the vertebrae By means of massaging the feet. The biggest payout of your life Could be the love you give by breathing. A ghost repeats himself over and over Up and down the spine of God. An

Arrhythmia

2005-07-25 Thread Thomas savage
Arrhythmia* Ephemeral dreams of a heartbeat. Identification card of skin. Exchange places with light. You're your own rat But you didn't bite all over. Go stalk someone in your own car. She may be expecting you on time. Audition for a commandment But don't expect orders from me. Hands get stiff

Re: Mastication Therapy - AH Freemix #0004

2005-07-21 Thread Thomas savage
This is a very interesting version/riff on my poem. How long did it take you to write? I'm interested since I only posted the original poem yesterday. Thanks, anyway. Regards, Tom SavageAugust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AH Freemix #0004 If your mountain speaks, learn itsfurniture would it it's

Life Changes

2005-07-21 Thread Thomas savage
Life Changes Follow your passion to compassion Until it arrives and the emotion vanishes away. The customer is usually wrong. Strong personal reasons For taking in cultural trash. Evidence of eccentricities Has been found to be Performed by the one God. Yours or mine matters little. Whose god

Mastication Therapy

2005-07-20 Thread Thomas savage
Mastication Therapy* On nearly empty pages, Dali paints little brown bones In order to feed his furniture. To keep them warm On cold nights Of Europe's past-future, Locked in its wars with America Whose skies are almost always gray. If we could eat furniture Would it return the favor? It's

Found Poem Lost

2005-07-15 Thread Thomas savage
Found Poem Lost In Translation I found a poem. Then I lost it. If you know where I left, , Send it right back to me. The border crossing guards will help you. They may be Muses or extraterrestrials But they know their jobs And are sober enough to see. Real mothers find poems in their babies'

Scribbled

2005-07-11 Thread Thomas savage
Scribbled on Glass Because you didn't feel up to it, I had to do this, Even though the future Is more on my mind Than the now. Somehow That to be whether To be or not is a knot That sticks in my brains Shouting: "Make me! Take me!" So I take marker in hand And scribble these words On your window,

Kato Nobukijo

2005-07-11 Thread Thomas savage
In Front of Kato Nobukijo's Ten Rakans Examining a Painting of White-Robed Compassion* When I die, I want to be composed of letters, My own words, if possible, In a language I understand. Would you care to paint this portrait now With trees composed of words behind me? I might be surrounded by