Re: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf

2005-07-25 Thread Donna Jones
Hi Terrence: in checking the speed report (under Tools in FF), the site comes through with flying colors - under 4K. http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/Broadleaf/Home/Index.fuel

Re: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf

2005-07-25 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Donna Jones wrote: I'm not sure i understand what all the feedback regarding the background image is about either. it seems to me that the size of the html is what matters, its not like the page is dependant on the background. i'm half a planet away, n. U.S., the html loads real well, then

Re: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf

2005-07-25 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, The background image only renders across 3/4 of the viewport in Safari 2.0. On Jul 24, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Tatham Oddie ((Fuel Advance)) wrote: Hi all, I’ve just placed the first page of a new site on our test-drive server: http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/Broadleaf/ Which is

Re: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf

2005-07-25 Thread Terrence Wood
Thanks Donna, that's funny. kind regards Terrence Wood. On 26 Jul 2005, at 10:03 AM, Donna Jones wrote: Hi Terrence: in checking the speed report (under Tools in FF), the site comes through with flying colors - under 4K. http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/Broadleaf/Home/Index.fuel

Re: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf

2005-07-25 Thread Donna Jones
Not exactly a clean user experience then. Particularly troublesome when designers rely on the background image and define colour for their text to be readable against it, but fail to provide fallback background colour. Zengarden is an experimental site, showcasing in many cases how one can

Re: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf

2005-07-24 Thread Matthew Vanderhorst
The design is very nice but the background image of the tree repeats. It is not noticeable until the resolution goes beyond 1024x768. There were some css validation errors as well (http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile="">). Matthew Vanderhorst Tatham Oddie (Fuel Advance)

RE: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf

2005-07-24 Thread Edward Clarke
Kingdom From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Vanderhorst Sent: 24 July 2005 17:52 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf The design is very nice but the background image of the tree repeats. It is not noticeable until

Re: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf

2005-07-24 Thread David Laakso
Tatham Oddie (Fuel Advance) wrote: Hi all, I’ve just placed the first page of a new site on our test-drive server: http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/Broadleaf/ Which is a redo of: http://www.broadleaf.com.au/ There is also a mock up which shows how it is meant to look:

Re: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf

2005-07-24 Thread RMW Web Publishing
I'd remove all the » in each list item and replace this with an image on the item bullet points. Also adding a label and/or legend on the search field (and hiding it with CSS if desired) would increase usability. Personally I'd also 'no-repeat' the bg image as it doesn't look as good on pages

RE: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf

2005-07-24 Thread Tatham Oddie \(Fuel Advance\)
let me know and Ill change it. Thanks, Tatham Oddie Fuel Advance - Ignite Your Idea www.fueladvance.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Vanderhorst Sent: Monday, 25 July 2005 2:52 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Site

RE: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf

2005-07-24 Thread Tatham Oddie \(Fuel Advance\)
Rowan, Thanks for your feedback. I'd remove all the in each list item and replace this with an image on the item bullet points. Done. Also adding a label and/or legend on the search field (and hiding it with CSS if desired) would increase usability. Done. Personally I'd also

RE: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf

2005-07-24 Thread Tatham Oddie \(Fuel Advance\)
@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf I suspect the 120Kb footprint of the background image is of more concern to most visitors. Edward Clarke ECommerce and Software Consultant TN38 Consulting http://blog.tn38.net Creative Media Centre 17-19 Robertson Street

Re: [WSG] site check please

2005-07-23 Thread dwain
Drake, Ted C. wrote: Hi All I've been working on a re-design of my web site and I know the code is still rough. However, I think I could use some outside eyeballs on the design. You know how things are when you look at it for too long... http://www.tdrake.net/joan/index-liquid.html very

Re: [WSG] site check please

2005-07-23 Thread dwain
Drake, Ted C. wrote: Hi All I've been working on a re-design of my web site and I know the code is still rough. However, I think I could use some outside eyeballs on the design. You know how things are when you look at it for too long... http://www.tdrake.net/joan/index-liquid.html p.s.

[WSG] site check please

2005-07-22 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Hi All I've been working on a re-design of my web site and I know the code is still rough. However, I think I could use some outside eyeballs on the design. You know how things are when you look at it for too long... http://www.tdrake.net/joan/index-liquid.html I was trying to keep it liquid

turning images off - RE: [WSG] site check please

2005-07-22 Thread Drake, Ted C.
: Friday, July 22, 2005 9:59 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] site check please Drake, Ted C. wrote: http://www.tdrake.net/joan/index-liquid.html I really like the look of that one - but... - Scrolling left isn't easy, so maybe try this adjustment: body { padding-left: 95px

Re: [WSG] site check please

2005-07-22 Thread Edward Clarke
Re: http://www.tdrake.net/joan/index-liquid.html I think a nice Georgia font would go down well with that template. Edward Clarke ECommerce and Software Consultant TN38 Consulting http://blog.tn38.net Creative Media Centre 17-19 Robertson Street Hastings East Sussex

Re: [WSG] site check please

2005-07-22 Thread David Laakso
Drake, Ted C. wrote: Hi All I've been working on a re-design of my web site and I know the code is still rough. However, I think I could use some outside eyeballs on the design. You know how things are when you look at it for too long... http://www.tdrake.net/joan/index-liquid.html

[WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread Dean | eCreate
If anybody out there has Win 2000 running IE6 could you check this URL: http://www.stthomasaquinasacademy.org/ I am getting one report that it is loading but then hanging up IE. Thanks, Dean ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread tee
No problem here, I clicked the links, all working fine. Checked on Win 2000, IE6. It maybe the user' PC (or IE) playing trick at that very moment when he was seeing your page. tee On Jul 21, 2005, at 11:05 AM, Dean | eCreate wrote: If anybody out there has Win 2000 running IE6 could you

Re: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread Dean | eCreate
On Thursday, July 21, 2005 at about 11:16 AM, from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...tee entreated: | No problem here, I clicked the links, all working fine. | Checked on Win 2000, IE6. | It maybe the user' PC (or IE) playing trick at that very moment when | he was seeing your page. Thanks Tee, I would

Re: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread sam sherlock
bullet proof here also Dean | eCreate wrote: If anybody out there has Win 2000 running IE6 could you check this URL: http://www.stthomasaquinasacademy.org/ I am getting one report that it is loading but then hanging up IE. Thanks, Dean

Re: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread Dean | eCreate
On Thursday, July 21, 2005 at about 7:40 PM, from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...sam sherlock entreated: | bullet proof here also What was your browser width? I am now being told that the hang occurs when the width is less than 1024. There is a javascript to control the minimum width of the center div.

Re: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread Carl Reynolds
Dean | eCreate wrote: If anybody out there has Win 2000 running IE6 could you check this URL: http://www.stthomasaquinasacademy.org/ I am getting one report that it is loading but then hanging up IE. Thanks, Dean ** The discussion list

Re: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread Bruce
*** is in there. Bruce Prochnau BKDesign Solutions - Original Message - From: sam sherlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000 bullet proof here also Dean | eCreate wrote: If anybody out there has Win 2000

RE: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread Mike Pepper
Dean | eCreate wrote If anybody out there has Win 2000 running IE6 could you check this URL: http://www.stthomasaquinasacademy.org/ I am getting one report that it is loading but then hanging up IE. Thanks, Dean Yes, there are problems. It's to do with the dynamic resizing of the site.

Re: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread Carl Reynolds
Dean | eCreate wrote: If anybody out there has Win 2000 running IE6 could you check this URL: http://www.stthomasaquinasacademy.org/ I am getting one report that it is loading but then hanging up IE. Thanks, Dean ** The discussion list

RE: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread Drake, Ted C.
I think Eric Meyers had a post on his site about a year ago about this problem on his site. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Reynolds Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:03 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Site

Re: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread Dean | eCreate
On Thursday, July 21, 2005 at about 2:04 PM, from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...T. R. Valentine entreated: | Needed Task Manager to kill it. Thanks for all the replies. I have pulled all the minimum width javascript off the page. Can you test again? Just the homepage:

Re: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread Bruce
Dean | eCreate wrote: Thanks for all the replies. I have pulled all the minimum width javascript off the page. Can you test again? Just the homepage: http://www.stthomasaquinasacademy.org/ Thanks, Dean ** In win98, ie6 at 800 res all looks and loads great. Scrollbars on bottom

Re: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Dean | eCreate wrote: Can you test again? Just the homepage: http://www.stthomasaquinasacademy.org/ Yup, without the javascript it works just fine (with the obvious layout issues when the width is too small, which was the whole reason for using the js in the first place). -- Patrick H.

Re: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread T. R. Valentine
On 21/07/05, Dean | eCreate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, July 21, 2005 at about 2:04 PM, from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...T. R. Valentine entreated: | Needed Task Manager to kill it. Thanks for all the replies. I have pulled all the minimum width javascript off the page. Can you

Re: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread Carl Reynolds
Dean | eCreate wrote: If anybody out there has Win 2000 running IE6 could you check this URL: http://www.stthomasaquinasacademy.org/ I am getting one report that it is loading but then hanging up IE. Thanks, Dean ** The discussion list

Re: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread Dean | eCreate
OK, I think the problem was a div I inadvertantly added outside my wrapper div whose width was controlled by the javascript. Any brave soul care to check it out for me? http://www.stthomasaquinasacademy.org/indexJava.mgi Thanks, Dean ** The

Re: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread T. R. Valentine
On 21/07/05, Dean | eCreate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I think the problem was a div I inadvertantly added outside my wrapper div whose width was controlled by the javascript. Any brave soul care to check it out for me? http://www.stthomasaquinasacademy.org/indexJava.mgi Well, I tried.

Re: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread Carl Reynolds
I think your problem is in this line of the function P7_setMinWidth: if(cw=w){w-=ad;g.style.width=w+px;}else{g.style.width=auto;}} I haven't really tried it to find out, but it looks as if you have set the minimum width to 770px in P7_limit. That is about where the page locks up when you

Re: [WSG] Site Check Win 2000

2005-07-21 Thread Dean | eCreate
On Thursday, July 21, 2005 at about 5:38 PM, from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...Carl Reynolds entreated: | I haven't really tried it to find out, but it looks as if you have set | the minimum width to 770px in P7_limit. That is about where the page | locks up when you start with a window the size of

Re: [WSG] site check w3planet.info

2005-06-15 Thread Jad Madi
Colin Steele quoteI would recommend not having ::Web Design References:: for 14 different areas of web design. These should be made into the sub headings of Usability, XML, Typography etc./quote unfortenatuly I cannot control that, I just syndicate their feed Bruce quoteAn About page would be

Re: [WSG] site check w3planet.info

2005-06-15 Thread Alan Trick
Nice site, 2 notes though. You may want to add a:focus{color:white}, several of the links go *completely* blue if you focus on them, a problem if your using tab a lot. Also, there's a little problem in firefox on page to. I looks like a float bug. It's probably firefox's fault but just letting

[WSG] site check w3planet.info

2005-06-14 Thread Jad Madi
Hi I have made some changes to W3 planet, would you please check it http://www.w3planet.info/site/ and give me your feedback Regards ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

RE: [WSG] site check w3planet.info

2005-06-14 Thread Colin Steele
Of Jad Madi Sent: 14 June 2005 14:12 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] site check w3planet.info Hi I have made some changes to W3 planet, would you please check it http://www.w3planet.info/site/ and give me your feedback Regards

Re: [WSG] site check w3planet.info

2005-06-14 Thread Bruce
Jad wrote, Hi I have made some changes to W3 planet, would you please check it http://www.w3planet.info/site/ and give me your feedback ** It is a very interesting site and a well put together package of standards related information. All my favorites in one place is great to see and

Re: [WSG] site check w3planet.info

2005-06-14 Thread David Laakso
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:11:39 -0400, Jad Madi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have made some changes to W3 planet, would you please check it http://www.w3planet.info/site/ and give me your feedback Jad, Nice, clean, well designed site. Worked well for me in XP_SP2 at 1280 in Opera8, Moz1.7.4,

[WSG] Site check with a problem and something new

2005-06-14 Thread Kim Kruse
http://mouseriders.dk/ I would be glad if you could help me with the following... On OS9 Mac/IE 5 I have a background painting bug in the list menus on the right. I've read a ton of articles and none of them seems to apply to my problem (they way I read them anyway). So if anyone has an idea

RE: [WSG] Site check with a problem and something new

2005-06-14 Thread Josef Dunne
SUCH INFORMATION. --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Kruse Sent: 14 June 2005 15:00 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Site

RE: SPAM: RE: [WSG] Site check with a problem and something new

2005-06-14 Thread Peter Firminger
Hmmm... I don't have a certain answer, but I have a questions; Why are you trying to get your website to work on IE on a Mac?? (OS9)?? You know that IE on a mac has been ditched in the new OSX (Tiger). And Safari is the dominent Browser. You should have a message appear on your site for

RE: SPAM: RE: [WSG] Site check with a problem and something new

2005-06-14 Thread Josef Dunne
Well of course I'd make the site degrade gracefully in IE on a Mac, id use the @import reference so that older browsers would just render the content, im all for web standards, but if you are having major problems with IE on a Mac, which a lot of developers do have, then id say just render the

Re: SPAM: RE: [WSG] Site check with a problem and something new

2005-06-14 Thread Kim Kruse
Hi Josef, Have you looked at the page? I'm using @import and I'm *only* having problems with one particular OS... Mac OS9 and IE5X! AFAIK the page looks fine on all other browser/OS. Regarding the hint. Isn't it so that if you put a this page is best view or Update your browser... or worse

Re: SPAM: RE: [WSG] Site check with a problem and something new

2005-06-14 Thread Roberto Gorjão
Hi Kim, Ive opened your page in IE for Mac, versions 5.0 and 5.1.7 and it seems exactly equal to what I see in Firefox on Windows. Do you want me to send a printscreen to your email? Roberto Kim Kruse wrote: Hi Josef, Have you looked at the page?

Re: SPAM: RE: [WSG] Site check with a problem and something new

2005-06-14 Thread Kim Kruse
Hi Roberto, Thanks. I guess you didn't open it OS9? So unless that's the case it should not be necessary. Thanks though :-) Kim Ive opened your page in IE for Mac, versions 5.0 and 5.1.7 and it seems exactly equal to what I see in Firefox on Windows. Do you want me to send a printscreen

Re: SPAM: RE: [WSG] Site check with a problem and something new

2005-06-14 Thread Roberto Gorjão
Kim, Is it possible to open the versions I mentioned with OS X? I dont think so I opened it in the 0S9 emulation provided by OSX But, now, Ive tried also an old ibook I have here, with only OS 9.2 and IE 5.1 and I do not see absolutely nothing that qualifies as a background painting bug (or

Re: SPAM: RE: [WSG] Site check with a problem and something new

2005-06-14 Thread John Wells
For what it's worth, if a user is browsing on OS9's IE, then they have little choice--Firefox, Safari, etc. are all only available on OSX. So to suggest that someone upgrades from Mac IE5 is to suggest they go out and shell out a cool grand for a new machine that runs a new OS. So maybe go a bit

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-26 Thread Felix Miata
Michael Wilson wrote Fri, 20 May 2005 18:17:15 -0400: Felix Miata wrote: Patrick H. Lauke wrote: And from that sample, how many of those users know how to change the default size of the text displayed in their browser? I'm at a loss to think of any reason how an answer to this might

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Futter
On 24/5/05 4:43 PM, Rick Faaberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/23/05 11:33 PM Kevin Futter [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I can't speak for all browsers, but I do find it annoying that Firefox on Windows has the print preview option, but Firefox on the Mac does not (latest versions).

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-24 Thread Kevin Futter
On 22/5/05 10:23 AM, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thierry Koblentz wrote: I was talking about the user, not the designer. Most browsers do not offer a Print Preview option Getting off topic (so perhaps email me back off list) but: which browsers exactly? I can't speak for

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-24 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 5/23/05 11:33 PM Kevin Futter [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I can't speak for all browsers, but I do find it annoying that Firefox on Windows has the print preview option, but Firefox on the Mac does not (latest versions). Makes it hard to recommend for verifying print output (assuming

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-21 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: As long as user-ignorance is used as an excuse for not doing a proper job at our end, then even this web design community will fail and end up preserving ignorance among ourself *and* the users. Very true, and I for one am (paradoxically, perhaps) always the first to

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Thierry Koblentz wrote: In most browsers, there is no way to know how the page would print. ... There is a way: 'testing', but I agree on that browsers don't do their print-job the same way. Think Gecko is worst on print-jobs at the moment. We also have no idea about print-setups around, since

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-21 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: In most browsers, there is no way to know how the page would print. There is a way: 'testing', but I agree on that browsers don't do their print-job the same way. Think Gecko is worst on print-jobs at the moment. Hi Georg, I was talking about the user, not the designer.

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-21 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Thierry Koblentz wrote: I was talking about the user, not the designer. Most browsers do not offer a Print Preview option Getting off topic (so perhaps email me back off list) but: which browsers exactly? -- Patrick H. Lauke _ re·dux

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-21 Thread Jan Brasna
IMHO it's still on-topic - AFAIK all modern browsers can do print preview. IE4+, Gecko, Safari, Opera... -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-20 Thread Felix Miata
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Felix Miata wrote: Outside web development discussion groups, the people over 40 I've personally come in contact with are almost unanimous in complaining most web sites have text that is too small, And from that sample, how many of those users know how to

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-20 Thread Tom Livingston
On May 19, 2005, at 6:12 PM, russ - maxdesign wrote: The font size discussion is interesting and relevant. I found this while reading about styling forms: From usability.com.au: Also, many users find the default font size on Websites is often too small for comfortable reading. This only becomes a

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-20 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 5/20/05, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And from that sample, how many of those users know how to change the default size of the text displayed in their browser? I'm at a loss to think of any reason how an answer to this might be relevant to choosing whether to respect visitors'

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tom Livingston wrote: I guess where I am going with this is that, IMO, no one here is wrong. The _vast_ majority of users are going to see the site as intended, and those who are not happy with the text size have the ability to change it to suit them. If a user needs larger type due to low

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-20 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: It is also much easier to inform our visitors how they can fix things at their end, if it actually works. If you forgive the tongue in cheek tone: Dear user, does the text on this page seem too big? Although most other sites you may visit on a regular basis have text that is

[WSG] Site Check

2005-05-19 Thread Bruno Torres
Hello. I'd appreciate mush if you take a look at my weblog (http://www.brunotorres.net/) and tell me your opinions. I did some changes in the layout and want to know if others like it as I do. I'd also like if mac users tested it on safari and ie5/mac. Thanks in advance. Cheers! -- Bruno Cunha

Re: [WSG] Site Check - brunotorres.net

2005-05-19 Thread Nick Gleitzman
available offlist if you like - just ask. A reminder to all - please add site name to Subject so we don't get a thousand posts that just say 'Re: [WSG] Site Check'. It also helps to keep threads organised! N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au

Re: [WSG] Site Check

2005-05-19 Thread Michael Donnermeyer
Other than a 1px show-though of white on your header in IE, looks good on the mac browsers. I sent you a few PDF screen caps offlist. The white issue on IE doesn't show up in the caps...happens depending on the width the browser window is. Should be a quick and easy fix. ~MD On May 19,

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-19 Thread Tom Hamshere
On 5/19/05, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bingo! You just got you first complaint. True. Walked in to that one, didn't I :) Still, I don't understand how it could be made better without degrading it for everybody else. -- Tom Hamshere

Re: [WSG] Site Check

2005-05-19 Thread Kvnmcwebn
I'd also like if mac users tested it on safari and ie5/mac. In the 0s9 version of ie5mac the top buttons have are slightly offset from the background image. maybe only a pixel or two, so when you roll over they jump a wee bit. not much though.

RE: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-19 Thread Romily Jones
The BBC's site is a good guide -- they did tons of usability research, I understand, so the odd time that I get asked by a client about the size of text on their site, this is the site I refer them to. BTW, this also looks to be the same size as that used on the WSG site. I find that 82% on the

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-19 Thread Felix Miata
Tom Hamshere wrote: Still, I don't understand how it could be made better without degrading it for everybody else. Reevaluate a basic assumption. The assumption you made is because the default is too big for you and needs to be reduced by 20%, that both: 1-most others have the same need, and,

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Romily Jones wrote: The BBC's site is a good guide -- they did tons of usability research, ... They did, but the latest update I could find is more than 2 years old. http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/newmedia/technical/css.shtml ...not all of it made good read today, although I didn't see anything

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-19 Thread Tom Hamshere
On 5/19/05, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Hamshere wrote: Still, I don't understand how it could be made better without degrading it for everybody else. Reevaluate a basic assumption. The assumption you made is because the default is too big for you and needs to be reduced by

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-19 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Felix Miata wrote: Outside web development discussion groups, the people over 40 I've personally come in contact with are almost unanimous in complaining most web sites have text that is too small, And from that sample, how many of those users know how to change the default size of the text

Re: [WSG] Site check - last... ADMIN WARNING

2005-05-19 Thread russ - maxdesign
Yes it is. It's also quite dumb. Respect is rarely dumb. This is no exeption. When the defaults are honored, everyone who cares can be a winner. WARNING Please do not let this discussion sink any further or the thread will be closed. The font size discussion is interesting and relevant.

RE: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-18 Thread Josef Dunne
Read this for Font-Sizing, this is the method I use: http://clagnut.com/blog/348/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-18 Thread Kvnmcwebn
very nice- i found a couple minor breaks in ie5 mac 0s9 if you care about this i will post screen shots online. -Kev ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-18 Thread Michael Wilson
Felix Miata wrote: You might say but the text looks too big if I just leave it like that. Make it smaller then. But *in your browser*. How would you recommend solving the problem? Hi, Font sizing issues are always a heated topic. If we have to get right down to the nitty-gritty of the matter,

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Felix Miata wrote: You might say but the text looks too big if I just leave it like that. Make it smaller then. But *in your browser*. As idealistic as it sounds, the devil's advocate counter question: are you going to tell every single user of your site to do that in

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-18 Thread Tom Hamshere
No, it's a bit old-school for me to worry about. Thanks anyway. On 5/18/05, Kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: very nice- i found a couple minor breaks in ie5 mac 0s9 if you care about this i will post screen shots online. -Kev **

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-18 Thread Tom Hamshere
On 5/17/05, Josef Dunne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd been recommended 80% as an ideal default text size by a wide variety of people, including, IIRC, the WAI. How would you recommend solving the problem? I would set the font size to 62.5% in the body tag. Then I would use Ems to set the

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-18 Thread Tom Hamshere
On 5/17/05, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Hamshere wrote: I'd been recommended 80% as an ideal default text size by a wide variety of people, including, IIRC, the WAI. If from WAI it must be some misinterpreation. No, probably me just mis-remembering, as I said. You might

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-18 Thread David Laakso
On Wed, 18 May 2005 07:49:10 -0400, Michael Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Felix Miata wrote: You might say but the text looks too big if I just leave it like that. Make it smaller then. But *in your browser*. How would you recommend solving the problem? Hi, [...] A 80% (I use 76% on the body

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-17 Thread Peter J. Farrell
Tom Hamshere wrote: I know it's not perfect (particularly that there are priority 2 accessibility issues), but could people please take a look at http://www.lastminute.com Any feedback appreciated. One word: pink? -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog::

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-17 Thread Joshua Street
On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 12:28 +0100, Tom Hamshere wrote: could people please take a look at http://www.lastminute.com By default it sniffs my IP and uses geo mapping to fly me off to au.lastminute.com, which is a horrible table affair... don't know if you've got any control over that, but it's

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-17 Thread Joshua Street
p.s. whose idea was this: http://www.lastminute.com/site/main/boss_page_spreadsheet.html I laughed... :D On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 12:28 +0100, Tom Hamshere wrote: Any feedback appreciated. Kind Regards, Joshua Street Website: http://www.base10solutions.com.au/ Phone: (02) 9898-0060 Fax:

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-17 Thread Lee
I like the Iterate sexy partnerships bit! Lee Joshua Street wrote: p.s. whose idea was this: http://www.lastminute.com/site/main/boss_page_spreadsheet.html I laughed... :D On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 12:28 +0100, Tom Hamshere wrote: Any feedback appreciated. Kind Regards, Joshua Street

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-17 Thread Bruce
- From: Tom Hamshere [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 7:28 AM Subject: [WSG] Site check I know it's not perfect (particularly that there are priority 2 accessibility issues), but could people please take a look at http://www.lastminute.com Any feedback

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-17 Thread Peter J. Farrell
Peter J. Farrell wrote: Old Computer programmers never die, they just decompile. -- Tom Hamshere wrote: I know it's not perfect (particularly that there are priority 2 accessibility issues), but could people please take a look at http://www.lastminute.com Any feedback appreciated. One word:

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-17 Thread Felix Miata
Tom Hamshere wrote: I know it's not perfect (particularly that there are priority 2 accessibility issues), but could people please take a look at http://www.lastminute.com Because of your 80% default font size, I have to zoom at least one step to use those Flights selects. They're already

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-17 Thread Tom Hamshere
On 5/17/05, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll tell you a little secret. A popup on entering, and then every link in site had a popup ad, and another when closed. It isn't a site I would even consider looking at. Probably applies to most people, as we have all gotten tired of such methods. I

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-17 Thread Tom Hamshere
On 5/17/05, Peter J. Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One word: pink? Sorry, I'm outta line...(although it definitely was striking)... Heh, no, no problem. It's our brand colour and has proven impossible to get rid of :) Run your code through tidy and the W3 validators (jigsaw and the

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-17 Thread Tom Hamshere
On 5/17/05, Jacobus van Niekerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tom, Great site, I did not know lastminute was going standards based. Congrats! Looking good, was also glad about the recent deal that was made. Yes, we've been working on it steadily for the last year or so. Still a way to go...

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-17 Thread Tom Hamshere
On 5/17/05, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Hamshere wrote: Because of your 80% default font size, I have to zoom at least one step to use those Flights selects. They're already messed up at that point. After I zoom once more, it's a serious mess. Depending on which browser I open

RE: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-17 Thread Josef Dunne
I'd been recommended 80% as an ideal default text size by a wide variety of people, including, IIRC, the WAI. How would you recommend solving the problem? I would set the font size to 62.5% in the body tag. Then I would use Ems to set the sizes of all my fonts on the page, By setting the

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-17 Thread Felix Miata
Tom Hamshere wrote: On 5/17/05, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because of your 80% default font size, I have to zoom at least one step to use those Flights selects. They're already messed up at that point. After I zoom once more, it's a serious mess. Depending on which browser I

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-17 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Felix Miata wrote: You might say but the text looks too big if I just leave it like that. Make it smaller then. But *in your browser*. As idealistic as it sounds, the devil's advocate counter question: are you going to tell every single user of your site to do that in their browser? because sure

Re: [WSG] site check/comments please

2005-05-10 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day Actually, it isn't an h3, that just applies to the title line. The list is simply that - a list of a ref's. I didn't see the point of making it any more complex than it needed to be, and it all seemed to work OK. But hey - I'm learning here, and asking for advice, so if there IS a good

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