[WSG] IE7 image link problem
Hi there, I'm having a bit of trouble with IE7, and was hoping someone here may already have an answer to the problem! I'm building a very simple splash page for a form submission from an existing site, (that we didn't build). The problem relates to two links in the footer. The footer is just a single background image, and the links are just parts of that image that I have applied classes to, and display: block to turn them into clickable areas. This works exactly as intended in every browser except IE7 (and IE5 for Mac, but I don't care about that one!) To see what I mean, go to: http://www.8bits.com.au/claire/ I've put an overly large border around the 'myspace' link that is causing the problem (that you can only see in IE7). Instead of sitting on top of the image, it sits behind it. I've also tried playing around with negative z-index values, but this seems to make no difference. Any wisdom from the list that can be imparted would be much appreciated. Thanks, Nick. nick lazar 8bits Media *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] IE7 image link problem (off-campus)
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[WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?
Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities ... http://www.wanau.org/site.html They are proposing running their annual forum on Accessibility in online teaching at UQ where I work, and we¹ve been asked to help ... :) I expect I will be involved anyway, but would be interested in any feedback! Cheers Susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?
WANAU has been an invaluable leader in promoting accessibility issues in policies within Universities for some years now. Their site used to be self-explanatory. Haven't been involved for some time but they are very deserving of your help - very practical pioneers on this issue. Michael Michael Wood Repository Manager La Trobe University Library Bundoora VIC 3086 Australia ph: +61 3 9479 5173 fax: +61 3 9479 3018 mob: +61 402 969 863 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 4/11/07, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities ... *http://www.wanau.org/site.html* They are proposing running their annual forum on Accessibility in online teaching at UQ where I work, and we've been asked to help ... :) I expect I will be involved anyway, but would be interested in any feedback! Cheers Susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?
I haven't heard of them, but I'd certainly be interested in finding out more about them. I work at Swinburne Uni (in Melbourne), and I'm pushing for more accessibility within the sites I'm responsible for. Feel free to email me off the mailing list if need be. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Lucien. -- Lucien Stals Multimedia/Web Developer Academic Development and Support Swinburne University of Technology PO Box 218 Hawthorn, 3122, Australia email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] telephone: +61 3 9214 4474 office: AD223 On 11/04/2007 at 9:41 am, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities ... http://www.wanau.org/site.html They are proposing running their annual forum on Accessibility in online teaching at UQ where I work, and we¹ve been asked to help ... :) I expect I will be involved anyway, but would be interested in any feedback! Cheers Susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Education is only the beginning. Let's get on with it. Swinburne University of Technology CRICOS Provider Code: 00111D NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended only for the use of the addressee. They may contain information that is privileged or protected by copyright. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution, printing, copying or use is strictly prohibited. The University does not warrant that this e-mail and any attachments are secure and there is also a risk that it may be corrupted in transmission. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses or defects before opening them. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact us on +61 3 9214 8000 and delete it immediately from your system. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. Please consider the environment before printing this email. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:Lucien Stals TEL;WORK:4474 ORG:;Academic Development and Support EMAIL;WORK;PREF;NGW:[EMAIL PROTECTED] N:Stals;Lucien END:VCARD *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?
Hi Susie, I haven't heard of this group before but I have gone through the website and it looks like something that's needed esp. among Universities. I am definitely interested in attending the Sydney event in May. Sydney Uni are actually having a web forum this afternoon for all CMS users and I will definitely mention this site and at least get people on board the mailing list. -- signature 10.8.06 Best regards, Adeline Yaw Administrative Assistant Centre for Physical Activity Health Level 2, Medical Foundation Building, K25 University of Sydney NSW 2006 t: +61 2 9036 3193 | f: +61 2 9036 3184 www.cpah.health.usyd.edu.au Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: WANAU - anyone heard of them? Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities ... http://www.wanau.org/site.html They are proposing running their annual forum on Accessibility in online teaching at UQ where I work, and weve been asked to help ... :) I expect I will be involved anyway, but would be interested in any feedback! Cheers Susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?
On 11/04/2007, at 9:41 AM, Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities ... http://www.wanau.org/site.html They are proposing running their annual forum on Accessibility in online teaching at UQ where I work, and we’ve been asked to help ... :) I expect I will be involved anyway, but would be interested in any feedback! Cheers Susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Don't be conned Susie, Who are this group, what have they done in previous forums since 2004. Where was it held last year? Who attended last year? I bet they are selling training courses, seen in links to a business case on the W3C site.. Funny that they are from RMIT yet there is no action at their own University. Multiple page errors. Fix your own Uni pages first. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rmit.edu.au%2F They do have a few different stylesheets, but the changes between them are minor colour changes. I thought Dey Alexander was working with Vision Australia who to me seem to accept low government standards to get training contracts from AGIMO. Following Maquire v Sydney Olympics, who does any legal advocation for the blind apart from myself? This group may want to sell you training contracts. http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Publishing/AustWeb.html#visaust Bloody hell I work hard on testing Australian sites including Universities who should know better, what is WANAU, what have they done. With a few dollars funding I could review all Australian Universities and have a reference page showing those who fail and why, what else do you need, fund me to complete a review of University webpages and forget the talkfest. Australian sites are in a bad way, few Universities know what accessibility is. http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Publishing/AustWeb.html ANU fails RMIT fails Sydney Fail Swinburne fails I have done dozens reviews of Australian government websites and advocated a legal position to HREOC. what has WANAU done apart from make a few webpages? Yours Faithfully Tim Anderson The Editor Heretic Press http://www.hereticpress.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Editor Heretic Press http://www.hereticpress.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?
Pioneers, Not in making their own sites accessible. Don't make me laugh. Tim On 11/04/2007, at 10:02 AM, Michael Wood wrote: WANAU has been an invaluable leader in promoting accessibility issues in policies within Universities for some years now. Their site used to be self-explanatory. Haven't been involved for some time but they are very deserving of your help - very practical pioneers on this issue. Michael Michael Wood Repository Manager La Trobe University Library Bundoora VIC 3086 Australia ph: +61 3 9479 5173 fax: +61 3 9479 3018 mob: +61 402 969 863 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 4/11/07, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities ... http://www.wanau.org/site.html They are proposing running their annual forum on Accessibility in online teaching at UQ where I work, and we've been asked to help ... :) I expect I will be involved anyway, but would be interested in any feedback! Cheers Susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** The Editor Heretic Press http://www.hereticpress.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?
Hi Susie, Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities ... http://www.wanau.org/site.html They are proposing running their annual forum on Accessibility in online teaching at UQ where I work, and we've been asked to help ... :) I expect I will be involved anyway, but would be interested in any feedback! WANAU has been around for a few years now and the forums are great. Of course I may be biased since I ran the 2005 forum at Griffith ;) Basically WANAU is there to connect university-based web professionals and allow knowledge sharing, events, etc. Universities have accessibility challenges which often require different approaches than those encountered in the commercial sector; so WANAU provides a great way to get people together to discuss the issues. Well worth being involved if you're a web professional at a uni! :) cheers, Ben -- --- http://www.200ok.com.au/ --- The future has arrived; it's just not --- evenly distributed. - William Gibson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?
What are the forums great for? Sandwiches and a chat! What is the concrete result of the forums? For example did Griffith Uni gain anything from the 2005 sandwich fest. It does not appear there was any benefit to Griffith Uni students. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.griffith.edu.au%2F Tim On 11/04/2007, at 11:54 AM, Ben Buchanan wrote: Hi Susie, Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities ... http://www.wanau.org/site.html They are proposing running their annual forum on Accessibility in online teaching at UQ where I work, and we've been asked to help ... :) I expect I will be involved anyway, but would be interested in any feedback! WANAU has been around for a few years now and the forums are great. Of course I may be biased since I ran the 2005 forum at Griffith ;) Basically WANAU is there to connect university-based web professionals and allow knowledge sharing, events, etc. Universities have accessibility challenges which often require different approaches than those encountered in the commercial sector; so WANAU provides a great way to get people together to discuss the issues. Well worth being involved if you're a web professional at a uni! :) cheers, Ben -- --- http://www.200ok.com.au/ --- The future has arrived; it's just not --- evenly distributed. - William Gibson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** The Editor Heretic Press http://www.hereticpress.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?
Thanks everyone for your responses! I'd never heard of them before - they obviously haven't had a presence at UQ to date. Looks like I (and my department) will be getting involved, which is great! Cheers susie On 11/4/07 11:54 AM, Ben Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Susie, Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities ... http://www.wanau.org/site.html They are proposing running their annual forum on Accessibility in online teaching at UQ where I work, and we've been asked to help ... :) I expect I will be involved anyway, but would be interested in any feedback! WANAU has been around for a few years now and the forums are great. Of course I may be biased since I ran the 2005 forum at Griffith ;) Basically WANAU is there to connect university-based web professionals and allow knowledge sharing, events, etc. Universities have accessibility challenges which often require different approaches than those encountered in the commercial sector; so WANAU provides a great way to get people together to discuss the issues. Well worth being involved if you're a web professional at a uni! :) cheers, Ben *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?
Hi Tim The Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities (WANAU) is a volunteer group with no formal structure (that I know of), much like Web Standards Group. It seeks to promote Web accessibility within Australian universities. They run a mailing list [1], forums at universities [2] and generally have a 'birds of a feather' meeting at OZeWAI [3] and possibly other conferences, like AusWeb. WANAU is not from RMIT, although WANAU's 2007 Victorian forum was held at RMIT. [4] I helped organise it and I chaired it. It was well attended, with almost 100 people attending from most (if not all) Victorian universities. People seemed to like it. WANAU do not sell training courses. They don't sell anything, actually. Dey Alexander is an independent consultant. [5] She used to work for Monash University. She probably has worked with Vision Australia in the past. She has completed one review of Australian university Web sites, similar to what you describe [6], and is currently undertaking a second, to update the findings of the first review. The results will be presented this year at AusWeb. [7] [1] WANAU mailing list: http://www.wanau.org/list.html [2] WANAU forums: http://www.wanau.org/forums2007/ [3] OZeWAI conference: http://www.ozewai.org/ [4] 2007 Victorian WANAU forum: http://www.wanau.org/forums2007/ melbourne.html [5] Dey Alexander Consulting: http://www.deyalexander.com/ [6] Alexander Dey, 30 Jan 2004, How Accessible Are Australian University Web Sites?, Ariadne 38, http://www.ariadne.ac.uk/ issue38/web-watch/ [7] AusWeb: http://ausweb.scu.edu.au/ -- Jonathan O'Donnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://purl.nla.gov.au/net/jod +61 4 2575 5829 On 11/04/2007, at 11:38 AM, Tim wrote: On 11/04/2007, at 9:41 AM, Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities ... http://www.wanau.org/site.html They are proposing running their annual forum on Accessibility in online teaching at UQ where I work, and we’ve been asked to help ... :) I expect I will be involved anyway, but would be interested in any feedback! Cheers Susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Don't be conned Susie, Who are this group, what have they done in previous forums since 2004. Where was it held last year? Who attended last year? I bet they are selling training courses, seen in links to a business case on the W3C site.. Funny that they are from RMIT yet there is no action at their own University. Multiple page errors. Fix your own Uni pages first. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rmit.edu.au%2F They do have a few different stylesheets, but the changes between them are minor colour changes. I thought Dey Alexander was working with Vision Australia who to me seem to accept low government standards to get training contracts from AGIMO. Following Maquire v Sydney Olympics, who does any legal advocation for the blind apart from myself? This group may want to sell you training contracts. http:// www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Publishing/AustWeb.html#visaust Bloody hell I work hard on testing Australian sites including Universities who should know better, what is WANAU, what have they done. With a few dollars funding I could review all Australian Universities and have a reference page showing those who fail and why, what else do you need, fund me to complete a review of University webpages and forget the talkfest. Australian sites are in a bad way, few Universities know what accessibility is. http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Publishing/AustWeb.html ANU fails RMIT fails Sydney Fail Swinburne fails I have done dozens reviews of Australian government websites and advocated a legal position to HREOC. what has WANAU done apart from make a few webpages? Yours Faithfully Tim Anderson The Editor Heretic Press http://www.hereticpress.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Editor Heretic Press http://www.hereticpress.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] colour matching transparent png files
Learned friends - hope you can help me. I am having trouble matching transparent png files to html background colours. The dodgy test page here: http://www.woowoowoo.com/pngtest/ illustrates the effect. It's pretty self explanatory, but I want to run a div which matches the page background and provides a 'band' effect over a background image for me to run some type through. I specify the page background to #003366 In photoshop I specify the starting blue of the vignette to #003366 I also create a 20px square of #003366, set the opacity to 50% and save out a png24 with transparency Trouble starts in the browser though - the 'transparent' bands are almost always visible - if not in one browser then another. Now I have a fair hunch that this is to do with colour profiles, but my trial and error testing so far has only resulted in confusion and frustration. I get it almost right in Firefox and IE7 goes crazy or pretty good in both and Opera and Safari fall off. It's cross browser incompatibility gone mad! Is it just my browsers? (I doubt it!) Has anyone got any experience or resources that they can ease my troubles with? -- Andrew Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.woowoowoo.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] colour matching transparent png files
PNG has built in colour correction that creates problems when trying to match against a hexcode in the browser. If you really need png you can export a small backgroound tile for the area that it needs to blend into. http://hsivonen.iki.fi/png-gamma/ On 4/11/07, Andrew Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Learned friends - hope you can help me. I am having trouble matching transparent png files to html background colours. The dodgy test page here: http://www.woowoowoo.com/pngtest/ illustrates the effect. It's pretty self explanatory, but I want to run a div which matches the page background and provides a 'band' effect over a background image for me to run some type through. I specify the page background to #003366 In photoshop I specify the starting blue of the vignette to #003366 I also create a 20px square of #003366, set the opacity to 50% and save out a png24 with transparency Trouble starts in the browser though - the 'transparent' bands are almost always visible - if not in one browser then another. Now I have a fair hunch that this is to do with colour profiles, but my trial and error testing so far has only resulted in confusion and frustration. I get it almost right in Firefox and IE7 goes crazy or pretty good in both and Opera and Safari fall off. It's cross browser incompatibility gone mad! Is it just my browsers? (I doubt it!) Has anyone got any experience or resources that they can ease my troubles with? -- Andrew Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.woowoowoo.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] colour matching transparent png files
On Tuesday 10 April 2007 22:13, Andrew Harris wrote: I specify the page background to #003366 In photoshop I specify the starting blue of the vignette to #003366 I also create a 20px square of #003366, set the opacity to 50% and save out a png24 with transparency save it to a png8 and you should be ok. -- Dwain Alford P.O. Box 145 Winfield, Alabama 35594 telephone: 205.487.2570 cellphone: 205.495.5619 The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Wassily Kandinsky, Concerning The Spiritual In Art *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** pgpxD5FcXDTfB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [WSG] colour matching transparent png files
James, http://hsivonen.iki.fi/png-gamma/ thank you so much - explains everything! @Dwain - I need 8bit transparency, so png8 is not an option no, the article referred to by James has convinced me, sadly, that png24 is just going to cause me too many troubles - I'll have to find another way. Saved me heaps of time and frustration though! -- Andrew Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.woowoowoo.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Donna Colarossi/Operations/ScotiabankGroup is out of the office.
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Re: [WSG] colour matching transparent png files
As far as i know png alpha transparency does not work well in IE 5.5 and 6, it seems to only works in firefox, JavaScript must be use to fix this problem. check out this site, it might be of help to you http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/pnghowto.htm, i tend to avoid the use of png as it is not cross browser compatible, i uses gif instead. regard, Tan Le On 4/11/07, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 22:13, Andrew Harris wrote: I specify the page background to #003366 In photoshop I specify the starting blue of the vignette to #003366 I also create a 20px square of #003366, set the opacity to 50% and save out a png24 with transparency save it to a png8 and you should be ok. -- Dwain Alford P.O. Box 145 Winfield, Alabama 35594 telephone: 205.487.2570 cellphone: 205.495.5619 The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Wassily Kandinsky, Concerning The Spiritual In Art *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?
Thanks Jonathan, They don't sell anything is a good sign, Please pardon my cynical impatience for action. I believe that the only real magic is taking action to promote or even legally (1992 DDA) force change. Shame them and name them, show their validation errors and accessibility flaws. Just don't have too many cucumber sandwiches chatting is my cynical view. For example See my review of the AGIMO award winning sites, a cucumber sandwich festival. My review of Australian UK and USA sites does differ from others? 1) It never finishes and is always being updated. 2) It is a longitudinal study exposing W3C flaws with links anyone can follow to detail the errors. 3) It details errors and accessibility features that could be used What about a page on Australian Universities similar to what I have done for aus.gov.au sites. Wouldn't that be of practical value to shame Aust universities not up to scratch, rather than chatting and more sandwiches? Not just a study which concludes things are not up to scratch, but a page detailing errors and improvement which could be made. Tell me a page on Australian university reviews like my other reviews is not needed but more sandwiches are. Australian government web sites http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Publishing/AustWeb.html USA sites http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Publishing/USAweb.html UK sites http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Publishing/UKweb.html Results http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Publishing/Results.html Study design http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Publishing/WebSurvey.html Bring academic studies into the real internet world, make them available over the web, with suggestions and W3C validation links, help the Universities with constructive criticism. No more sandwiches. Tim On 11/04/2007, at 12:32 PM, Jonathan O'Donnell wrote: Hi Tim The Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities (WANAU) is a volunteer group with no formal structure (that I know of), much like Web Standards Group. It seeks to promote Web accessibility within Australian universities. They run a mailing list [1], forums at universities [2] and generally have a 'birds of a feather' meeting at OZeWAI [3] and possibly other conferences, like AusWeb. WANAU is not from RMIT, although WANAU's 2007 Victorian forum was held at RMIT. [4] I helped organise it and I chaired it. It was well attended, with almost 100 people attending from most (if not all) Victorian universities. People seemed to like it. WANAU do not sell training courses. They don't sell anything, actually. Dey Alexander is an independent consultant. [5] She used to work for Monash University. She probably has worked with Vision Australia in the past. She has completed one review of Australian university Web sites, similar to what you describe [6], and is currently undertaking a second, to update the findings of the first review. The results will be presented this year at AusWeb. [7] [1] WANAU mailing list: http://www.wanau.org/list.html [2] WANAU forums: http://www.wanau.org/forums2007/ [3] OZeWAI conference: http://www.ozewai.org/ [4] 2007 Victorian WANAU forum: http://www.wanau.org/forums2007/melbourne.html [5] Dey Alexander Consulting: http://www.deyalexander.com/ [6] Alexander Dey, 30 Jan 2004, How Accessible Are Australian University Web Sites?, Ariadne 38, http://www.ariadne.ac.uk/issue38/web-watch/ [7] AusWeb: http://ausweb.scu.edu.au/ -- Jonathan O'Donnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://purl.nla.gov.au/net/jod +61 4 2575 5829 On 11/04/2007, at 11:38 AM, Tim wrote: On 11/04/2007, at 9:41 AM, Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities ... http://www.wanau.org/site.html They are proposing running their annual forum on Accessibility in online teaching at UQ where I work, and we’ve been asked to help ... :) I expect I will be involved anyway, but would be interested in any feedback! Cheers Susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Don't be conned Susie, Who are this group, what have they done in previous forums since 2004. Where was it held last year? Who attended last year? I bet they are selling training courses, seen in links to a business case on the W3C site.. Funny that they are from RMIT yet there is no action at their own University. Multiple page errors. Fix your own Uni pages first. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rmit.edu.au%2F They do have a few different stylesheets, but the changes between them are minor colour changes. I thought Dey Alexander was working with Vision Australia who to me seem to accept low government standards to get training contracts from AGIMO.
RE: [WSG] colour matching transparent png files
With a little bit of use of the propriety DXImageTransform filter you can get by using alpha transparent PNGs in IE6 fairly safely. There is some strange behaviour when using the in repeating background images and with links on them, however both can be fixed (there are various articles out there on the net on how to do this) IE7 has native support for them so I'm starting to utilise them more while still providing backwards compatibility by using the filter hack above. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of twe melb Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2007 2:06 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] colour matching transparent png files As far as i know png alpha transparency does not work well in IE 5.5 and 6, it seems to only works in firefox, JavaScript must be use to fix this problem. check out this site, it might be of help to you http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/pnghowto.htm, i tend to avoid the use of png as it is not cross browser compatible, i uses gif instead. regard, Tan Le On 4/11/07, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 22:13, Andrew Harris wrote: I specify the page background to #003366 In photoshop I specify the starting blue of the vignette to #003366 I also create a 20px square of #003366, set the opacity to 50% and save out a png24 with transparency save it to a png8 and you should be ok. -- Dwain Alford P.O. Box 145 Winfield, Alabama 35594 telephone: 205.487.2570 cellphone: 205.495.5619 The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Wassily Kandinsky, Concerning The Spiritual In Art *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] colour matching transparent png files
On 4/11/07, twe melb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as i know png alpha transparency does not work well in IE 5.5 and 6, Thanks, you're right - but no problems there as I'm serving an extra css to grumpy old browsers It's a shame there are so many problems with png24 as the lack of a viable transparency solution leads designers into all sorts of workarounds (like javascript!) or the use of extra images to 'fake' transparency. I'm surprised this problem is still with us after gawd knows how many years of trying. For a little while, I went down the path of opacity: 0.5; but quickly found that nothing could be done to reverse the effect for children of the object - they all went wishy washy too! I'd be really interested in seeing examples of successfully implemented transparent elements in web pages if anyone has got them - not really interested in the javascript IE/hacks. -- Andrew Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.woowoowoo.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] colour matching transparent png files
On 4/11/07, Andrew Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having trouble matching transparent png files to html background colours. The dodgy test page here: http://www.woowoowoo.com/pngtest/ illustrates the effect. On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:22:03 +1000, James Gollan advised: PNG has built in colour correction that creates problems when trying to match against a hexcode in the browser. If you really need png you can export a small backgroound tile for the area that it needs to blend into. http://hsivonen.iki.fi/png-gamma/ There are several tools that let you strip out this gamma correction data from PNG files. This has the added advantage of making the image files smaller (fewer bytes, I mean :) I use PNGOUTWin, but there are more you can google for. PNGOUTWin has a 30-day free trial[1]. It works great out of the box - no need to mess with the options. [1] http://www.ardfry.com/pngoutwin/ Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] colour matching transparent png files
twe melb wrote: As far as i know png alpha transparency does not work well in IE 5.5 and 6, Correct. it seems to only works in firefox, And IE7, Opera, Safari, etc. i tend to avoid the use of png as it is not cross browser compatible, Nonsense! Aside from alpha transparency problems in IE6 (and earlier), PNG is widely supported. PNG8 supports index transparency, just like GIF, and that is widely supported. Alpha transparency can be used if care is taken to work around the limitations in IE6. i uses gif instead. Don't use GIF, it is inferior to PNG in every way. Animated GIFs are the exception, but they should be used sparingly anyway. -- Lachlan Hunt http://lachy.id.au/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
