Re: [WSG] Screen resolution issue

Lyn Patterson wrote: I'm guessing you are using a liquid layout yeah?? Its not so much the width that worries me- its the height. The page currently stops halfway down. She apparently has no problems with my personal site at her resolution so perhaps I will switch her layout to the same

[WSG] layout/font site test - please

Ladies and gentlemen, Sparked partly by the recent discussions on elasticity, I've been attempting to put together a 'template', based on em's and with a max-width. I've used an expression for max-width in IE <7 (pinched from Georg!). I've tested it in FF1.5, IE6 IE7, Opera 9, and Netscape 4.

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

Paul Novitski wrote: At 6/2/2007 03:06 AM, Designer wrote: Sparked partly by the recent discussions on elasticity, I've been attempting to put together a 'template', based on em's and with a max-width. I've used an expression for max-width in IE <7 (pinched fro

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

, Designer wrote: I think I'm too tired. I simply can't get the thing to repeat on enlargement. I've put it in a div and put it as the background there, but it still won't go vertical as well. I'm Confused! It's 123 by 236px in size. Maybe it's too high for this.

Re: [WSG] Recommended screen size

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Novitski Fortunately we can aim stylesheets specifically at handheld devices, Sure we can aim, but I think anyone who has spent half an hour or more looking into this will

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

Philip Kiff wrote: As Felix points out, your current template breaks IE's built-in font resizer (View -> Text Size -> Larger/Largest). This problem is caused by your definition of the default body text size as 14px. The use of “px” measurements for font sizes is not scalable under Microsoft In

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On Jun 5, 2007, at 8:09 PM, Designer wrote: ... the html>body is ignored by all except IE6 I hope this is a typo. IE 6 ignores this (and NN4 in case you worry) as it doesn't understand the '>' selector. All other browsers, including IE

Re: [WSG] Re: Use of Fieldsets other than in form?

Nick Gleitzman wrote: Barney Carroll wrote: ...a deceased squirrel foetus Wow. What an image. N ___ I wondered if you kept one on hand, in your office, for purposes of validation? -- Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk **

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

Nick Fitzsimons wrote: This is a common misconception. IE7 _cannot_ resize text whose size is specified in pixels, in precisely the same way that IE6 can't. The use of the page zoom tool will enlarge or shrink it along with the other content of the page, but using the menu options to adjust t

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

Felix Miata wrote: All that said, the way I judge the readability of any page is by the size of the bulk of its content and main navigation, not by a couple of minimal importance non-primary-content lines it contains. By that standard, Bob's is a substantial distance from comfortable to read,

[WSG] resizing text via graphics/text?

Good Morning/afternoon/evening, Further to recent discussions on text size, and in particular, using graphics sized in ems so that they resize, I've pondered the use of graphical text when wanting to use an uncommon font. So, I put a heading into a simple graphic (using the required text), b

[Re: [WSG] resizing text via graphics/text?]

David Hucklesby wrote: http://www.marscovista.fsnet.co.uk/newtemplate/flashtext.htm Sweet. It falls back to an image if Flash is disabled, even in IE! 8-O Now if only it increased with font size in IE... Cordially, David -- Don't forget though, in IE6 and below, it does change size alon

Re: [WSG] Tackling tabular data + per row form input

C. Bergström wrote: I'd really like a clean and valid html way to display tabular data, . . . Hi Christopher, Surely, you've answered your own question here, in that one short line? The cleanest and most valid way to display tabular data (across browser land) is, er, to use a . . . tab

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

Tom Livingston wrote: [snip] What I like about SWFObject, is the easy way to deliver basically *any* alternate content for a user without Flash. So a user choosing to not use Flash can still have a somewhat rich experience instead of just getting the "Download Flash" message. Just a thought.

[WSG] Re: Microformats was [ Is this a good use of dl ]

Thierry Koblentz wrote: [big snip] If you're willing to go with that many elements, why not using microformats? http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard --- Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com Perhaps I'm being dumb here, but I've looked at Microformats (briefly) and I can't see the advantage

Re: [WSG] To target or not

Can we just step back a moment, and consider what we are doing. As I write this reply, I am typing the content of this mail IN A NEW WINDOW. When I send the mail, the window disappears and I'm left with a large window, with folders in a FRAME down the left. As I read the new mails, I move fr

Re: [WSG] Using target="_blank"

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That has to be just about the nastiest version of all - I click a link and get a new window. Fine, not what I wanted, but there was that other link that looked interesting, I'll just go back to the first window and open a few more links before I read that page. Hey! Where

Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors

Daniel Kendrick wrote: I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. If PHP is an option, you can produce a different 'effect' by having an array and randomly selecting the content. At it's simplest level

Re: [WSG] Usability & Accessibility Over Design?

http://www.habitat.co.uk/uk/main_uk.htm as a case where prestige/image is crucial to the business. However, if you want see an example where prestige is also crucial, but the designer has use compliant methods and passed 508 validation (at least) see:

Re: [WSG] Usability & Accessibility Over Design?

Steve Green wrote: The http://www.fosterandpartners.com is not a good example at all. I can see at a glance that it violates at least three WCAG Priority 2 checkpoints, and that's without even looking at the code. Some pages violate Priority 1 requirements too. That's a shame because I really ne

Re: [WSG] Investigating the proposed alt attribute recommendations in HTML 5

Vlad Alexander (XStandard) wrote: Creating content on the Web that is only accessible by one group of people is never appropriate. Sites like flickr have tools that let photo contributors upload photos in batches for convenience. As often happens, convenience for one group of people causes i

Re: [WSG] Investigating the proposed alt attribute recommendations in HTML 5

Vlad Alexander (XStandard) wrote: I don't know what is a "purely visual site". Can you please provide an example? Regards, -Vlad Hi Vlad, By that term I meant a site which has very little (if any) text. See www.kernowimages.co.uk for a (not perfect :-) example. The content of the site is

Re: [WSG] Investigating the proposed alt attribute recommendations in HTML 5

Vlad Alexander (XStandard) wrote: Designer wrote: By that term ["purely visual site"] I meant a site which has very little (if any) text. Thank you for the example but I don't understand what is purely visual about this site. If the alt text for images was written correctly,

Re: [WSG] Investigating the proposed alt attribute recommendations in HTML 5

Rahul Gonsalves wrote: On 31-Aug-07, at 11:08 PM, Designer wrote: Well Vlad, whether it fits your conception or not, there is such a thing as a site whose prime function is visual. The only 'information' in the site I mentioned is what something 'looks like'. If you can

Re: [WSG] Investigating the proposed alt attribute recommendations in HTML 5

Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Designer wrote: http://www.nga.gov/feature/rothko/classic1.shtm. Using this arbitrary example, I still maintain that a site of images such as any of these will be of no more value to a blind user for having alt tags, other than to point out that 'there is a pi

Re: [WSG] Investigating the proposed alt attribute recommendations in HTML 5

Hassan Schroeder wrote: Nick Gleitzman wrote: Language is what we have as our primary tool of communication. There are others, of course - Rothko's paintings speak volumes (even if the man himself lets them speak, choosing enigmatic reservation about their meaning) - but to presume that becau

[WSG] Speaking of alt tags . . .

Hi all, What is the current wisdom about the syntax of alt tags? I believe that if I have a decorative image I am supposed to put a blank tag. But I've also been told that the tag should be alt=" ", NOT alt="", because with no spaces (or one) the screen reader will announce 'blank' whereas w

Re: [WSG] 5,000th member

Mike Brown wrote: Russ I just want to say, on behalf of all 5,000 members I'm sure, thanks to you and Peter for the list. It's been your vision and dedication that's kept it going and nourished, and what you've both done has been influential in ways I'm sure you don't realise. Well done! :) M

Re: [WSG] Cost of Accessibility

Andrew Maben wrote: But as to the cost of compliant, accessible HTML, does anyone *not* find it quicker and easier (and hence cheaper) to write than tag soup? Andrew, lots of folk do find it harder. The fact is that the transition to standards and accessibility isn't 'easy' when you are lear

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links - and mail sender

Ray Leventhal wrote: Patrick H. Lauke wrote: > my approach is usually not to put the email address on there and instead provide a contact form, one major annoyance of contact forms for me: as a sender, i don't have a copy of the email in my email client's "sent items" folder. depending on th

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links - and mail sender

Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote: Good point, Patrick. I'll certainly consider offering a checkbox as a UI option for 'send me a copy of the contents of this form'. I'd certainly be interested if this could be done in php by assigning the user's mail address as a string, then posting to it. Anyone

Re: [WSG] Web Standards In Colleges and Universities

Patrick H. Lauke wrote: James Jeffery wrote: It does: http://www.matthew-boulton.ac.uk/ The site looks o.k, but as you can see the methods are wrong. Hah, it's been a while since I've seen the following It's on par with At least there's some attempt at CSS layout on that site, though..

Re: [WSG] Re: Alt text for purely aesthetic images

James Jeffery wrote: This is my view. If an image is for aesthetic purposes, it should be in with the CSS. If an image is to be used as part of the content, for example, the image of your wife, then it should be within tags. I would say that is common sense to be honest. If you turn of the CS

[WSG] SIte Maps?

I have never done a site map/index. I have Googled, but the results seem complicated, at least for a newcomer to site maps. I want to provide a way for visitor to a site to get where they want easily. Of course, the basic structure of the site is key, but when, e.g., there is a link to an obscu

Re: [WSG] SIte Maps?

behalf of Designer Sent: Sun 18/11/2007 10:12 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] SIte Maps? I have never done a site map/index. I have Googled, but the results seem complicated, at least for a newcomer to site maps. I want to provide a way for visitor to a site to get where they want

Re: [WSG] SIte Maps?

Just to say: " Thanks for the responses." All interesting. Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Hel

RE: [WSG] Float-less layouts

Thierry and all, I am interested in the excellent and well thought out work you have done with lists here. Intriguing! However (and it's a serious question), in what way do you think that using lists is 'better' than using a simple 2 or 3 -celled table (+ a bit of CSS to style it, naturally)

Re: [WSG] semantic list with explanations

Steve Green wrote: I have a big problem with the term 'best practice', especially when it is used to effectively terminate a discussion. It implies that not only is there currently no better solution, but that there never will be. I believe that the most appropriate solution invariably depends o

Re: [WSG] Where did I come from?

Christian Snodgrass wrote: When I read that, I thought about creating a button that finds the site you were at before you came in here, and then keeps that the same throughout the site, so no matter how many pages you go to, you can get back out of all of those and back where you were before yo

Re: [WSG] Conflict between Mime Type and Document Type

about all this, it makes you as a designer get lots of practice in using the stricter syntax, ready for some day in the future when you will need it. Maybe :-) Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidel

[WSG] I found this interesting . . . [OT]

I hope you do too : http://www.furtherfield.org/displayreview.php?review_id=288 Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/jo

Re: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

Matt Fellows wrote: There is a nice article [1] that can show you how to automatically style links with little icons depending on the extension of the file it points to if you are interested. Cheers, Matt [1] - http://www.askthecssguy.com/2006/12/showing_hyperlink_cues_with_cs_1.html Hi M

Re: [WSG] re: generate data

Breton Slivka wrote: Here, I used the phrase "in a sense" perhaps, to try to capture more meaning than it was capable of holding. There are, as you have pointed out two ways of "knowing" accessibility. You can know how to build your site such that it "should" be accessable according to the stand

Re: [WSG] Browser Text Resizing and the Ill Effects It May Cause

Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote: Hi Jason, yes I do.. You can do the same thing with pictures it's really a cool effect, and helps maintain the ratio of the entire page pretty well.. I have a demo up (Currently using php to process the size of the image) if anyone wants to look: HTTP://www.ra

Re: [WSG] IE8 news

Michael MD wrote: when I look at the server logs here I still see almost as many IE6 users as IE7 users. (the server logs are from a public events/nightlife website which gets a pretty diverse range of people visiting it) The following stats (representing 15694 users of all kinds) are for a

Re: [WSG] netscape 4 and css

dwain wrote: On 3/23/08, *Patrick H. Lauke* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: dwain wrote: > been reading zeldman's book on designing with standards. The latest version of NN4 came out in 1998. Zeldman's book came out in first edition in 2003, and at th

[WSG] USERS - was [Why is deprecated?]

Keryx Web wrote: Underlines on paper have no usability impact, since you cant click on it! Underlines on web pages have a usability impact, since people think they are clickable links. Just out of interest, I did a site map recently and all the links were red and underlined, at least on ho

[WSG] linking multiple CSS files

Good day all, I prefer to use smaller CSS files than great long things (neater and easier to edit), so I have tried importing a file "combined.css" which consists of : /* CSS Document */ @import url(structure.css); @import url(typography.css); @import url(links.css); @import url(lists.css);

Re: [WSG] div/span inside table cell problem

Will this not work for you: value class="discount">value value class="discount">value . . . etc . . ?? Bob hi, I have a table like this. Each table cell has two values which has put inside a span. I want this two values come horizontally... now its coming as two lines... how c

[WSG] valid video in (x)html?

I have had a request from a client to include a video on a website. I know nothing about this, except for a simple embedding from youtube. Sadly, the page doesn't validate if I do that. Has anyone any experience of producing a standard (accessible?) video into a web page? I've googled, but n

Re: [WSG] valid video in (x)html?

James Jeffery wrote: A google search pulls up alot of results: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=embedding+youtube+valid+html&meta = Try those. Thanks James! (I don't know how I missed those!) Bob ***

[WSG] The Problem of adjacent links

I have run into a problem with having two adjacent links at the top of a page. The WAI validator complains: "10.5 Until user agents (including assistive technologies) render adjacent links distinctly, include non-link, printable characters (surrounded by spaces) between adjacent links. [Priori

[WSG] [OT] users - IT literate?

I have doing a site for someone for a few years now. He recently requested a few minor changes whilst he was at my office, so I did them whilst he was present, and he approved. Today he wrote to me from his home: "The changes you made to my website are not showing at this end. Do I need to ac

Re: [WSG] PHP Standards

I think that it's basically your responsibility Ian, in that there are many sources of snippets available and if you use them you just validate the generated code and put right what is wrong in the php. Then, you check for best practice too . . . Bob Ian Chamberlain wrote: Fingers crossed

[WSG] Guestbook

Hi All, I've had a request to put a guestbook on a client's site. I've searched amomgst the maze of google refs, but there seems to be a lot of micky mouse things. I am after an accessible, (x)html valid (of course!) example. I feel sure that someone on the list will have done this, or at l

Re: [WSG] Alt versus Title Attribute

Ted Drake wrote: Sorry but on hover, IE6 will show "this is a dog" and other browsers will show "oh no it isn't" -Original Message- Just to confuse the issue, as well as clarify it, this example: WILL show the message 'this is a dog' when hovered in IE, even when the image

Re: [WSG] Alt versus Title Attribute

Jason Ray wrote: The information in the alt attribute will only display when the image is not available - [snip] The information in the title attribute will display when the pointer hovers over the object or image. Just to confuse the issue, as well as clarify it, this example: WILL show

Re: [WSG] Marking Up Poems

Matijs wrote: I have to agree with Elizabeth here. Semantically I'd say that this is one of the few occasions where a would be appropriate. The verses would be paragraphs of course. I did this a while back on a site for an author. I decided it was the best compromise between practicallity,

[WSG] S separators and TACG

I've been examining what happens if you put something inside an end tag, such as . The validator says: "name start character invalid: only S separators and TAGC allowed here." I googled, found lots of folk failing to add descriptors to a closing div, but NOBODY explained what those terms mean

Re: [WSG] Tables for product=>price list

One way to look at it is that a simple "list" is a list (in the html sense), whereas a "relational list" is tabular, so it goes in a table. So, a simple list of 'things to do' would use an HTML list, whereas a list which required data giving more information about the primary list element (a

[WSG] OT: AJAX

Sorry about the OT, but I'm bewildered by the choices! Can anyone suggest a good starting book to learn AJAX? I'm familar with javascript and PHP and want to investigate. Reply offlist if you find it preferable. Many thanks, Bob

Re: [WSG] OT: AJAX

It's arrived, and looks to be just what I want! Much obliged. Bob - Original Message - From: "James Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:36 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] OT: AJAX -Original Message- Sorry about the OT, but I'm bewildered by the choices!

[WSG] Skype changing format of my pages

Does anyone know a way to prevent Skype changing telephone numbers into skype buttons on pages I have carefully designed/coded. It bothers others too : http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=113096 I do not use Skype, but one of my clients does, and my page design (for her site) appears

Re: [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages

sy to ignore. Ted Drake http://last-child.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of designer Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:29 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages Does anyone know a way to prevent Skype changing teleph

Re: [WSG] Figures out issues. Standards for troubleshooting css

Hi Mike (and all), I also find "outline : 1px dashed #f00;" very useful as, unlike 'border' it doesn't add any extra pixels. (However, It doesn't work in IE, of course.) Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sen

[WSG] google and validation

Hello all, A client wants a link to google maps to shows where a property is located (there are 30+ properties, so 30+ pages with links to google maps). The trouble is, the pages no longer validate because of the url needed to get to the map. An example is: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=e

Re: [WSG] google and validation

From: Svip To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Care to tell us what exactly the validator tells you is wrong? /Svip 2008/10/18 designer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello all, A client wants a link to google maps to shows where a property is located (there are 30+ properties, so 30+ pages with li

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

Does no-one use Topstyle? http://www.newsgator.com/Individuals/TopStyle/Default.aspx Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMA

Re: [WSG] RE: Accessible date picker widget

Try this, from work done by Giorgos Tsiledakis: http://www.micronetwork.de/activecalendar/ I found this to be excellent. It uses PHP to define the OOP class 'calendar', and from there you can change lots of features - display month, year etc. You can pick a date v.easily, and altogether it is

[WSG] valid lightbox++ ??

I expect some may consider this off-topic, though it isn't really :- ). I recently tried using lightbox and then lightbox++ , the latter because it enables flash movies to be presented in the same way as images did in lightbox. However, the big pitfall is that in order to make it work the syn

Re: [WSG] Examples of great high-school websites?

Visitors with images switched off wont see what the main nav links are and those with javascript off wont be able to use them! Furthermore, those with the computers switched off won't see anything at all . . . Bob *** List

[WSG] lining up in different browsers

I want to line up two links at either side of a horizontal bar. The html is as follows: main menu web site Copyright © http://www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk"; class="newwin" target="_blank" title="opens in new window"> Gwelanmor Internet 2009

Re: [WSG] lining up in different browsers

over { color : #F00; background : #fff; text-decoration : underline;} By, Hariharan On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 7:07 PM, designer wrote: I want to line up two links at either side of a horizontal bar. The html is as follows: main menu

Re: [WSG] lining up in different browsers

I'll think about it :-) Bob - Original Message - From: Ricci Angela To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:20 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] lining up in different browsers Hi, Designer Just a thought: why don't you give

[WSG] friends? - was( Failed A Job :()

I did a site for one of my friends 'on the cheap', but put a lot of hours into it, and did it as 'properly' as I could. It was all hand coded and validated to the point of neurosis. Eventually, he decided that he wanted to pay me because he wanted to add a few more pages. When it was done, I tol

[WSG] add to favorites?

Does anyone know of a modern, valid, reasonably cross-browser way to provide a link on a page so that a user can add the page to favourites? The only one I can find is IE only: Click http://www.blablabla.com', 'blabla')">here to add this site to your bookmarks (Internet Explorer only). Some

Re: [WSG] add to favorites?

My justification for wanting to do this is simple, and in my eyes, very sensible. However, it will no doubt cause ructions amongst the evangelists. I want to use frames. Frames, contrary to popular myth, are not an accessibility nightmare. The simple 2-frame frameset I have made validates pe

[WSG] valid meta tags

Perhaps I'm being dumb, but I am getting a WIA failure when validating a new site [1]: Rule: 13.2.1 - Documents are required to use the TITLE element. Note: Document uses the TITLE element. Rule: 13.2.2 - Documents are required to use META elements, that are defined as required, in Head section

Re: [WSG] valid meta tags

- Original Message - From: James Ducker To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] valid meta tags I always use lowercase for primary languages and uppercase for dialects. That appears to be the standard. At the same time, I don't think it wo

Re: [WSG] valid meta tags

- Original Message - From: "designer" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:42 AM Subject: [WSG] valid meta tags Solved it! should be Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgrou

Re: [WSG] valid meta tags

Hi James, - Original Message - --- From: James Ducker To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] valid meta tags Hm, out of curiosity, what validator were you using? - James --

[WSG] font size - was [ Accessible websites]

lumsy! See for yourself: http://www.betasite.fsnet.co.uk/gam/fontstyle.html So, whilst the idea of text at 100% sounds reasonable, I always get a mixed bag of results. I feel as a designer(suggester), that I cannot possibly allow something I've done to look laughably clumsy in some browsers.

Re: [WSG] font size - was [ Accessible websites]

Hi Nick, - Original Message - From: "Nick Fitzsimons" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] font size - was [ Accessible websites] Different fonts have different sized letter forms; _of course_ they look different. Look up x-height

[WSG] Back to basics!

Hi all, Could anyone tell me where there is information regarding character code 'usage' that is simple. I always use UTF-8 and, e.g., if I want to put a left quote in my text I can use " or “ Which is recommended? Any help, links etc most welcome. (I have googled, but . . .) Thanks, Bob

Re: [WSG] Back to basics!

Hi Paul, - Original Message - From: "Paul Novitski" To: Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 6:23 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Back to basics! [snip]> Yes! Using UTF-8 in your web pages means NOT having to use HTML entities for text such as ñ or ê. The only HTML entities you need to use in your ch

[WSG] [Spam] :changing font sizes from within a page.

I would be grateful if someone could tell me what is the current best practice for letting users change the font-size (e.g., by clicking on three 'a's of different sizes to make different css files be used) on the web site. Is it still a good idea, or do we go for the approach of using the brow

[Spam] :Re: [WSG] thomas hull website

Hi Thomas, - Original Message - From: "thomas hull" To: Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn Hi. I got my first ever web site. Have a look and advice please. New to the game, and realy want it to work. http://onestoponline

Re: [WSG] Darius Design

I thought that folk who sent autoreplies were automatically unsubscribed? This is the third from Darius Design in as many days, and I'm getting rather fed up with it. I doubt that I'm alone . . . Bob - Original Message - From: "Darius Design" To: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 1:

Re: [WSG] The 'Some Links for Light Reading' posts

I would go so far as to say that these links have given me more knowledge than any other source of information I've encountered. I'm indebted to Russ! Bob Gwelanmor Internet *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/g

[Spam] :Re: [WSG] a table layout issue

Hi Tee, - Original Message - From: "tee" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:04 AM Subject: [WSG] a table layout issue It never occurs to me I cannot do something like this. I need each tr with borders and a margin-top to separate each tr, then a 5 pixel padding inside

Re: [WSG] a table layout issue

Hi Tee, - Original Message - From: "tee" Thank you Kepler and Rimantas, Both are not perfect but at least I can tell it's my limited mileage that couldn't get it done than it can't be done :-) I still need to tested it further due to the complexity of how data are pulled to the cart

[WSG] [Spam] :The wisdom? of using q to clear

Can anyone tell me what is wrong (apart from not being semantic) about using: q{ clear : both; display : none; } In conjunction with: for clearing! in the body of the mark-up. (it makes it a bit more helpful for screen readers, I presume?) Anything? Any better ideas around? I did google

Re: [WSG] [Spam] :The wisdom? of using q to clear

Thanks to all who replied. However, no-one said "don't do this because . . ." ?? - Original Message - From: designer To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:45 PM Can anyone tell me what is wrong (apart from not being semantic) ab

Re: [WSG] [Spam] :The wisdom? of using q to clear

- Original Message - From: Ben Buchanan 2009/9/27 designer Thanks to all who replied. However, no-one said "don't do this because . . ." ?? OK, well, since you're kind of asking... ;) Don't do that because it's horrendously non-semantic and y

Fw: [WSG] [Spam] :The wisdom? of using q to clear - addendum

I did, of course, mean TJK!!! Sorry Thierry! - Original Message - From: "designer" To: Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] [Spam] :The wisdom? of using q to clear - Original Message - From: Ben Buchanan 2009/9/27 designer Thanks

Re: [WSG] [Spam] :The wisdom? of using q to clear

- Original Message - From: "David Dorward" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] [Spam] :The wisdom? of using q to clear On 29 Sep 2009, at 15:35, Nancy Johnson wrote: I'm not sure q is supported by all browsers. It isn't, but so what? It still cause

[WSG] elasticity and floats

Can anyone help me sort a problem please: I want to make a banner/masthead with 4 divs. Nos 1,2 and 4 are fixed width and I want div 3 to be flexible width and fill the gap: [fixed- float left] [fixed - float left] [elastic - no floats] [fixed - float right] The wrapper div takes care of

Re: [WSG] floats and elasticity

- Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: [WSG] RE: WSG Digest Try this #wrapper { height: 100px; width: 800px; } #box1 { height: 100px; width: 200px; float: left; border: thin solid #F00; } #box2 { height: 100px; width: 200px; float: left;

Re: [WSG] elasticity and floats

- Original Message - From: Matthew Pennell To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] elasticity and floats On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:28 AM, designer wrote: I want to make a banner/masthead with 4 divs. Nos 1,2 and 4 are fixed width

Re: [WSG] elasticity and floats

- Original Message - From: "Chris F.A. Johnson" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] elasticity and floats Is this what you want: http://cfajohnson.com/testing/floatdivs.shtml ? -- Chris F.A. Johnson, webmaster

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