Re: [WSG] media queries can't understand body tag

2011-09-19 Thread tee
Thank you very much! Yes, this works! I didn't realize order could be an issue. I took a look at that boston global site that everybody was talking the other day, it has this order: @media screen and (min-width:480px) @media screen and (min-width:620px) @media screen and (min-width:810px) @medi

Re: [WSG] media queries can't understand body tag

2011-09-19 Thread G.Sørtun
On 20.09.2011 00:02, tee wrote: Please see this. http://bit.ly/mWvfWC The reason I want to target body tag in media queries is because I don't want to panelize mobile user to load the large background image. I started first with min-width but the result was more problematic, so I switched to

Re: [WSG] media queries can't understand body tag

2011-09-19 Thread Hassan Schroeder
On 9/19/11 3:02 PM, tee wrote: Please see this. http://bit.ly/mWvfWC It appears to work the way I *think* you want it to if you order the css statements as: @media screen and (max-width:1024px){ body { background:red} } @media screen and (max-width:768px) { body { background-color: black; }

Re: [WSG] media queries can't understand body tag

2011-09-19 Thread tee
Please see this. http://bit.ly/mWvfWC The reason I want to target body tag in media queries is because I don't want to panelize mobile user to load the large background image. I started first with min-width but the result was more problematic, so I switched to max-width. As to the reason why

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Re: [WSG] media queries can't understand body tag

2011-09-18 Thread David Laakso
On 9/18/11 5:43 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 4:34 PM, tee wrote: Hmmm, media queries can't understand body tag; a id or class for the tag is needed. Spec on W3C site doesn't indicate though as I see example like so: @media all { body { background:lime } } A browse

Re: [WSG] media queries can't understand body tag

2011-09-18 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 4:34 PM, tee wrote: > Hmmm, media queries can't understand body tag; a id or class for the tag is > needed. Spec on W3C site doesn't indicate though as I see example like so: > > @media all { body { background:lime } } > > A browser bug? Works for me in Chrome: http://pa

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Re: [WSG] media queries can't understand body tag

2011-09-18 Thread Chad Kelly
Call the other media such as print from an external style sheet. That should fix the issue. On 9/19/2011 1:34 AM, tee wrote: Hmmm, media queries can't understand body tag; a id or class for the tag is needed. Spec on W3C site doesn't indicate though as I see example like so: @media all { body

[WSG] media queries can't understand body tag

2011-09-18 Thread tee
Hmmm, media queries can't understand body tag; a id or class for the tag is needed. Spec on W3C site doesn't indicate though as I see example like so: @media all { body { background:lime } } A browser bug? Tee *** List Guidelines:

RE: [WSG] Fwd: Video in web page [SEC=No Protective Marking]

2011-09-12 Thread Siobhan . Neill
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Re: [WSG] flat form with check boxes [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-09-12 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
the input so far. > > > From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On > Behalf Of Darren Lovelock > Sent: Monday, 12 September 2011 3:58 PM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: Re: [WSG] flat form with check boxes [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] >

RE: [WSG] flat form with check boxes [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-09-11 Thread Sam Dwyer
/roles#presentation Cheers, S From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Chris Vickery Sent: Monday, 12 September 2011 4:28 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] flat form with check boxes [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Thanks Darren, In our case, it’s a

RE: [WSG] flat form with check boxes [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-09-11 Thread Chris Vickery
. From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Darren Lovelock Sent: Monday, 12 September 2011 3:58 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] flat form with check boxes [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Hi Chris, Why not make the printable form a word doc or pdf for

Re: [WSG] flat form with check boxes [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-09-11 Thread David Thomas
Hi Chris, So what your saying is that your current website has form elements for printing the page and then ticked and submitted like a paper form? There are a few possible ways that you could do this without involving forms that have no submit buttons, because yes it would be confusing for ac

Re: [WSG] flat form with check boxes [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-09-11 Thread Darren Lovelock
Hi Chris, Why not make the printable form a word doc or pdf for them to download, rather than coding it into the page as a form or image? That way you wont confuse the users and you have the option of still making the pdf form interactive. If that's not possible then I would use an image for t

Re: [WSG] flat form with check boxes [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-09-11 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
Hi Chris Let me recap to make sure I get this. Pardon me if I miss the mark. The web page is flat HTML and it has checkboxes, so that were someone to print the page, they would use those checkboxes to mark with a pen. The checkboxes have no purpose online, as you can't submit their information w

Re: [WSG] flat form with check boxes [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-09-11 Thread Joshua Street
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Chris Vickery wrote: > We’ve got some flat forms on our site, ie. They are not interactive forms, > and have no submit button. They are indicating that it’s a check list that > can be ticked once the page is printed. Hi Chris, Can you use a print stylesheet to ch

[WSG] flat form with check boxes [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-09-11 Thread Chris Vickery
Hi all, We've got some flat forms on our site, ie. They are not interactive forms, and have no submit button. They are indicating that it's a check list that can be ticked once the page is printed. Someone suggested putting in regular check boxes and having no submit button, but wouldn't that m

RE: [WSG] Fwd: Video in web page

2011-09-09 Thread Lapcewich, Dennis
rg [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of grant_malcolm_bai...@westnet.com.au Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:47 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Fwd: Video in web page Hello, I would be grateful if someone could clarify the best means of embedding video into a web pag

Re: [WSG] Fwd: Video in web page

2011-09-06 Thread Jose Arturo de la Rosa Vidal
-- From: delarosavidalj...@hotmail.com To: bai...@westnet.com.au; wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: FW: [WSG] Fwd: Video in web page Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 00:34:07 -0500 HI, There are several converters and programs such as: 1)abcc-free-all-media-to-mp3-converter 2

Re: [WSG] Fwd: Video in web page

2011-09-06 Thread paultea
y: li...@webstandardsgroup.org 07/09/2011 02:57 PM Please respond to wsg@webstandardsgroup.org To wsg@webstandardsgroup.org cc Subject [WSG] Fwd: Video in web page Hello, I would be grateful if someone could clarify the best means of embedding video into a web page so as to be viewable by the widest ran

Re: [WSG] Fwd: Video in web page

2011-09-06 Thread David Thomas
Hi, I would use youtube to embed a video in a webpage because i'm pretty shore that it defaults to flash but also has support for mobile and other devices. Youtube is really easy to implement, all you need to do is copy the embed code and it should work. You can however user HTML5 with flash f

[WSG] Fwd: Video in web page

2011-09-06 Thread grant_malcolm_bailey
Hello, I would be grateful if someone could clarify the best means of embedding video into a web page so as to be viewable by the widest range of users (desktop, mobile, different OSs, etc). Embedding Flash video is easy enough, however, iPhone / iPad users cannot view this format and I ne

Re: [WSG] accessibility statements... what are they worth?

2011-09-05 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
HI all whereas accessibility (a.k.a. a11y) is not about web standards, one aspect of it is about conformance with standards, in particular, the parsing of code. So I guess it's OK to talk about it here for a little bit. There are two points to consider here: I just had a look at the myki acce

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Re: [WSG] ebook.epub markup and device compatiblity as well as web standards concern

2011-09-04 Thread jomali
I find that Sigil (http://code.google.com/p/sigil/) provides a smoother experience of creating or editing epubs than Calibre, although Calibre is a more finished product. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 6:47 PM, tee wrote: > Curious if anyone here has experience with ebook development using epub > form

Re: [WSG] accessibility statements... what are they worth?

2011-09-04 Thread tee
On Sep 4, 2011, at 4:51 AM, Andrew Harris wrote: > Hi all, > I recently had some problems with the Myki website (I like to use the > keyboard to navigate - they don't make it easy!), which prompted me to > visit the site's accessibility page. > http://www.myki.com.au/Home/Accessibility/Accessib

Re: [WSG] accessibility statements... what are they worth?

2011-09-04 Thread Istvan Vincze
Hi Andrew :) I have a bit of a peeve with the Myki site, too... a lot in fact. When the site was launched I had a bit of a poke around the source and found it to be a pretty low-effort job, so not surprised about your findings. Glad you looked into this. I'd suspect the Metlink site has similar fa

[WSG] accessibility statements... what are they worth?

2011-09-04 Thread Andrew Harris
Hi all, I recently had some problems with the Myki website (I like to use the keyboard to navigate - they don't make it easy!), which prompted me to visit the site's accessibility page. http://www.myki.com.au/Home/Accessibility/Accessibility/default.aspx There, they make a claim about their effort

Re: [WSG] ebook.epub markup and device compatiblity as well as web standards concern

2011-09-03 Thread Slobodanka Graham
Hi there In response to tee's enquiry about ePUB for ebooks, we've had experience in converting PDFs with tables and images using Aspose and Calibre, which are free ebook convertors. The results were good and I think if you use the paid versions of these applications, you could enhance your tables

[WSG] ebook.epub markup and device compatiblity as well as web standards concern

2011-09-03 Thread tee
Curious if anyone here has experience with ebook development using epub format that you can share, e.g., common mistake, devices compatibility and accessibility issue. I am in need to make an ebook using the popular epub format, and my research shows that it's basically the same as building a w

Re: [WSG] Re: Disabled man got 6 years for "sextortion"

2011-09-02 Thread Russ Weakley
Agree. While horrible, the topic is not related to web design, development or web standards. THREAD CLOSED Thanks Russ On 03/09/2011, at 12:04 PM, Tom Ditmars wrote: > On 2011-09-02 20:38, Jay Tanna wrote: >> A Southern California disabled man was sentenced Thursday to six >> years in priso

[WSG] Re: Disabled man got 6 years for "sextortion"

2011-09-02 Thread Tom Ditmars
On 2011-09-02 20:38, Jay Tanna wrote: > A Southern California disabled man was sentenced Thursday to six > years in prison for infiltrating computers belonging to women and > teenage girls where he found sexually explicit photos and threatening > to put them online unless they provided him with mor

[WSG] Disabled man got 6 years for "sextortion"

2011-09-02 Thread Jay Tanna
A Southern California disabled man was sentenced Thursday to six years in prison for infiltrating computers belonging to women and teenage girls where he found sexually explicit photos and threatening to put them online unless they provided him with more. He claims he got assistance from newsg

[WSG] Less than 2 days to register for "Web Standards, Html 5 & Accessibility" webinar - Aug. 31

2011-08-29 Thread Howard Kramer
*Webinar - Web Standards, Html 5 & Accessibility* August 31, 2011 – 10:00 am – 1:15 pm MDT Speakers: Greg Kraus, University IT Accessibility Coordinator, NCSU, and developer of LecShare Ted Drake, Yahoo Accessibility Lab Victor Tsaran, Yahoo Accessibility Lab More info: http://www.colorado.edu/A

[WSG] setting adobe dream weaver preferences with Accessibility With Jaws

2011-08-27 Thread Marvin Hunkin
hi. what settings do i set in preferences. first time using this application. and did read the adobe dreamweaver accessibility site. so any tips, tricks, information and advice would be gratefully appreciated. Marvin. *** List Guide

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-27 Thread cat soul
I would suggest that "cater to" isn't the most positive terminology to use with respect to those with disabilities. it implies some sort of not-really-necessary bending over backwards and engaging in some huge hassle and great imposition. if you think of "doing business" as offering a produ

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-27 Thread cat soul
On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Jay Tanna wrote: Personally I don't go out of my way to do anything special. I design the site as it comes and if some people can't access it - tough luck. There is no point in spending any additional time or money in buying specialist tools for people w

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-27 Thread tee
On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Jay Tanna wrote: > > Personally I don't go out of my way to do anything special. I design the > site as it comes and if some people can't access it - tough luck. There is > no point in spending any additional time or money in buying specialist tools > for peop

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-26 Thread G.Sørtun
On 26.08.2011 17:55, Tedd Sperling wrote: Accessibility is similar to designing sites for different browsers -- it doesn't take extraordinary effort/cost to consider and implement, it only takes knowledge and commitment. +1 ***

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Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-26 Thread Mike Brown
On 26/08/11 5:15 PM, Jay Tanna wrote: Personally I don't go out of my way to do anything special. I design the site as it comes and if some people can't access it - tough luck. There is no point in spending any additional time or money in buying specialist tools for people who are challenge

RE: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-26 Thread Elizabeth Spiegel
el Web editor www.spiegelweb.com.au -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Chris Knowles Sent: Saturday, 27 August 2011 7:45 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities? we have a n

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-26 Thread Chris Knowles
we have a new super-hero in our midst, keeping the city safe from people with disabilities and their nonsense. You'll see him in a costume pushing in front of disabled people trying to get on a bus and yelling his catch phrase 'tough luck' as the the door closes. Thanks No Nonsense Man! -- Ch

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-26 Thread Tedd Sperling
On Aug 26, 2011, at 1:15 AM, Jay Tanna wrote: > Personally I don't go out of my way to do anything special. I design the > site as it comes and if some people can't access it - tough luck. There is > no point in spending any additional time or money in buying specialist tools > for people who

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-25 Thread Jay Tanna
Personally I don't go out of my way to do anything special. I design the site as it comes and if some people can't access it - tough luck. There is no point in spending any additional time or money in buying specialist tools for people who are challenged in some form! Some people on certain

[WSG] accessibility of adaobe download asssistant with jaws

2011-08-25 Thread Marvin Hunkin
hi. tried to download the flash builder software, but a download assitant. but not very screen reader friendly with jaws. is there another way to download or direct download links to adobe dream weaver, flash builder, flash developer, adobe adcroabat creator. Marvin. ps: using windows 7 professi

Re: [WSG] adobe tools that works well with jaws?

2011-08-25 Thread Tony Crockford
> From: Adam Martin > Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 08:32:24 +0100 > > > I guess we don't go to boldfish.co.uk for compassion!!! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 24 Aug 2011, at 07:16, Tony Crockford wrote: > >> On 24 Aug 2011, at 01:09, Jay Tanna wrote: >>> >>> You are doing an online course and

Re: [WSG] adobe tools that works well with jaws?

2011-08-24 Thread Tom Livingston
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Jay Tanna wrote: > You are doing an online course and yet you don't know how to find out what is > included in the Web design suite!  How about going to Adobe's website and do > your own research?  You never know this could help you fine tune your > research ski

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-24 Thread Ted Drake
I work with the Yahoo Accessibility Lab. We push our engineers to go beyond making sure images have alt attributes and truly consider accessibility usability. This includes making sure sites are keyboard accessible, zoom friendly, and screen-reader accessible. ARIA is becoming a larger part of our

Re: [WSG] web accessibility with adobe tools

2011-08-24 Thread Chad Kelly
On 8/25/2011 7:44 AM, Marvin Hunkin wrote: hi. well trying to use adobe online system is a bit of a pain, and having to jump via hoops. so did find their number in australia. so will rin on friday, and see what they say about accessibility in their tools. marvin. I don't have Jaws anymore

Re: [WSG] adobe tools that works well with jaws?

2011-08-24 Thread Adam Martin
I guess we don't go to boldfish.co.uk for compassion!!! Sent from my iPhone On 24 Aug 2011, at 07:16, Tony Crockford wrote: > On 24 Aug 2011, at 01:09, Jay Tanna wrote: >> >> You are doing an online course and yet you don't know how to find out what >> is included in the Web design suite! Ho

Re: [WSG] web accessibility with adobe tools

2011-08-23 Thread tee
Marvin, Maybe you can contact Andrew Kirkpatrick who is Group Product Manager and Accessibility from Adobe. Someone from the list may know his email address who can send it to you offlist. I googled him and found his twitter http://twitter.com/awkawk You can contact him via twitter I suppose.

Re: [WSG] adobe tools that works well with jaws?

2011-08-23 Thread Henrik Madsen
Ouch. Henrik Madsen +61 08 9387 1250 hen...@igenerator.com.au www.igenerator.com.au On 24/08/2011, at 2:16 PM, Tony Crockford wrote: On 24 Aug 2011, at 01:09, Jay Tanna wrote: You are doing an online course and yet you don't know how to find out what is included in the Web design suite

Re: [WSG] adobe tools that works well with jaws?

2011-08-23 Thread Tony Crockford
On 24 Aug 2011, at 01:09, Jay Tanna wrote: > > You are doing an online course and yet you don't know how to find out what is > included in the Web design suite! How about going to Adobe's website and do > your own research? You never know this could help you fine tune your > research skills.

[WSG] web accessibility with adobe tools

2011-08-23 Thread Marvin Hunkin
hi. well trying to use adobe online system is a bit of a pain, and having to jump via hoops. so did find their number in australia. so will rin on friday, and see what they say about accessibility in their tools. marvin. *** Lis

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-08-23 Thread Chad Kelly
23/08/2011 05:53 PM Please respond to

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-23 Thread David Laakso
On 8/23/11 10:32 PM, tee wrote: Then this will do... body { font-family: sans-serif; } If you ever do this, I strongly suggest you test it on older Windows System. tee Each and everyone of you win. I give-up. I have taken a coil of rope to the woods. Farewell. ***

Re: [WSG] adobe cs5 web premium

2011-08-23 Thread tee
Marvin, Why not send an email or call Adobe Inc? Unless someone has already used the Adobe products with screen readers, nobody can give you answer except Adobe. Quite honestly, Adobe targets its products to visual oriented designers, not screen reader's users, so I will be surprised if it has

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-23 Thread tee
> > > Then this will do... > body { font-family: sans-serif; } > > If you ever do this, I strongly suggest you test it on older Windows System. tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscrib

[WSG] adobe cs5 web premium

2011-08-23 Thread Marvin Hunkin
hi. well i did find the web page and did see what is in it. so, which products in the web premium version is acessible with screen readers. i know illustrator and photo shop is probably not acessible with jaws, but what about fireowrks, i know dream weaver is, and what about flash. marvin. **

RE: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-08-23 Thread Karen . Conyers
ebstandard cc sgroup.org Subject RE: [WSG] How do you cater to 23/08/

Re: [WSG] adobe tools that works well with jaws?

2011-08-23 Thread Jay Tanna
You are doing an online course and yet you don't know how to find out what is included in the Web design suite! How about going to Adobe's website and do your own research? You never know this could help you fine tune your research skills. Do we also have to give you the Adobe's website addre

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-23 Thread David Laakso
On 8/23/11 7:32 PM, Tom Ditmars wrote: On 2011-08-23 19:12, David Laakso wrote: It is relevant only if you are one of the few on the planet who are concerned with typography and see Verdana for what it is at default: pug-ugly. While that might be your opinion, it's not necessarily relevant to

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-23 Thread Tom Ditmars
On 2011-08-23 19:12, David Laakso wrote: It is relevant only if you are one of the few on the planet who are concerned with typography and see Verdana for what it is at default: pug-ugly. While that might be your opinion, it's not necessarily relevant to the topic of this discussion: Usability

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-23 Thread David Laakso
On 8/23/11 2:07 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2011, David Laakso wrote: On 8/23/11 3:53 AM, Mike Kear wrote: Mike Kear http://afpwebworks.com Setting the fonts at user default Absolutely! and ditching Verdana is the first place to start... Totally irrelevant. The

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-23 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011, David Laakso wrote: On 8/23/11 3:53 AM, Mike Kear wrote: Mike Kear http://afpwebworks.com Setting the fonts at user default Absolutely! and ditching Verdana is the first place to start... Totally irrelevant. There is nothing wrong with Verdana; it is only

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-23 Thread Teddy Knoy
accessible to people with > disabilities. > > > -Original Message- > From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Kear > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:54 AM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: RE: [WSG] How do y

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-23 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/08/23 16:35 (GMT) Julie Romanowski composed: Sad, but true, Felix. We know State Farm Bank (among other sites/applications) has accessibility issues and are working with the support area to resolve them. Unfortunately, changes like this take time. Unfortunately, there are people in ev

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-23 Thread Hassan Schroeder
On 8/23/11 12:53 AM, Mike Kear wrote: I guess it's going to take another law suit like that one against the Olympics2000 site to get anyone to take users with special needs seriously and actually lift a finger to cater to their needs. What would that "lift a finger" actually consist of? I'm s

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-23 Thread David Laakso
On 8/23/11 3:53 AM, Mike Kear wrote: Mike Kear http://afpwebworks.com Setting the fonts at user default and ditching Verdana is the first place to start... *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cf

RE: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-23 Thread Julie Romanowski
g address and you can contact him directly! -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Felix Miata Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:50 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabil

RE: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-23 Thread Foskett, Mike
al Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Julie Romanowski Sent: 23 August 2011 16:12 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities? Mike, maybe you should have worded your question a little d

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-23 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/08/23 15:11 (GMT) Julie Romanowski composed: To answer your question - Sticking to standards is not enough. Accessibility and usability testing are critical. At my company, we have both an accessibility lab and a usability lab. We have accessibility and assistive technology (AT) expert

RE: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-23 Thread Julie Romanowski
ke applications accessible to people with disabilities. -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Mike Kear Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:54 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] How do you cater to users with dis

RE: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-23 Thread Mike Kear
Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Be

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[WSG] adobe tools that works well with jaws?

2011-08-22 Thread Marvin Hunkin
hi. well, wondering in the cs5.5 web site suite, only, and looking for the student version. whats in the web site design suite, adn what is acessible and what is not? let me know asap. doing a website development course online. so what to purchase in australia.

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-20 Thread tee
On Aug 18, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Josh Street wrote: > > > "Many dyslexics have difficulty with certain fonts or with small print; > others would prefer to have a colored background to reduce contrast. Stumbled on this article: Dyslexie, A Typeface Designed To Help Dyslexics Read Comment from Pa

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-18 Thread Josh Street
Hi Mike, It's probably worth looking into ARIA [1] and WCAG [2] as two standardised ways of building and assessing how websites can cater to a broader range of users. I know that some members of this list also follow the W3C's Web Accessibility Initiative [3] mailing list, which, between flame

[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest

2011-08-18 Thread Craig Kershaw
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Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-18 Thread Shawn Henry
RE: "But now I'm wondering if simply sticking to standards is enough?" Hi Mike, Here's what W3C WAI has to say on Involving Users in Web Projects for Better, Easier Accessibility: http://www.w3.org/WAI/users/involving.html It is an introduction and links to some More Information and Guidance u

[WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-18 Thread Mike Kear
How to the rest of you a/b people (i.e. able bodied) cater to users with various forms of disability? Up until recently, I've tended to rely on keeping my code to standards, eliminating tables except for their proper purpose of tabulating data, and hoping that will give the accessibility level

Re: [WSG] which programming or web development tools which works well with jaws

2011-08-18 Thread John Unsworth
Hey there Marvin, I understand software like JAWS and NVDA (http://www.nvda-project.org/) read out the entire screen activity of a PC (as opposed to FANGS which only reads inside Firefox and therefore only websites or at least browser based software) and as such like an inaccessible website that i

Re: [WSG] which programming or web development tools which works well with jaws

2011-08-17 Thread Peter Mount
You might want to look at Lynx as well. http://lynx.isc.org Peter Mount Web Development for Business Mobile: 0411 276602 i...@petermount.com http://www.petermount.com On 19/08/2011, at 7:53 AM, Marvin Hunkin wrote: >hi. > well enrolling in a diploma in website development. > and developing

[WSG] which programming or web development tools which works well with jaws

2011-08-17 Thread Marvin Hunkin
hi. well enrolling in a diploma in website development. and developing a website. now what web site development tools, and which programming tools which works best with Jaws? visual basic, visual web developer, c#, dream weaver, vs 2008, or 2010. which works best with jaws? marvin. ps: will

Re: [WSG] HTML5 Elements question

2011-08-17 Thread Tom Livingston
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: > On 17/08/2011 15:04, Tom Livingston wrote: >> >> Just trying to get a better grip on the proper use of the new >> elements. I have a site with a persistent nav of the site on the top >> of the page and on a couple pages, a large designed

Re: [WSG] HTML5 Elements question

2011-08-17 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
On 17/08/2011 15:04, Tom Livingston wrote: Just trying to get a better grip on the proper use of the new elements. I have a site with a persistent nav of the site on the top of the page and on a couple pages, a large designed grid with nice hover effects that mirrors the persistent nav. The persi

[WSG] HTML5 Elements question

2011-08-17 Thread Tom Livingston
List, Just trying to get a better grip on the proper use of the new elements. I have a site with a persistent nav of the site on the top of the page and on a couple pages, a large designed grid with nice hover effects that mirrors the persistent nav. The persistent nav has role="navigation" and I

[WSG] Out of Office Reply: Offsite training Re: WSG Digest

2011-08-14 Thread Julien Viard
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RE: [WSG] iOS Safaro issue (?): Fixed and Absolute position

2011-08-14 Thread Tatham Oddie
As a user, I'd prefer the native support to work. -- Tatham -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of tee Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011 9:30 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] iOS Safaro issue (?):

[WSG] keyboard navigation support for accordion/tabs

2011-08-12 Thread tee
Was adding ARIA support for tabs menu for a site , so I checked a few sites that have ARIA support and examples done by some people, but left with a keyboard navigation support queston for tabs instead. First I always thought the correct approach is this: 1. [tab1] [tab2] [tab3] and an p

Re: [WSG] iOS Safaro issue (?): Fixed and Absolute position

2011-08-12 Thread tee
Hi Tatham, Thank you!! Feel utterly silly I never discover the feature in 7 by 8" iPad screen and 2 by 3" screen from iPod Touch So I did some exploring, notice in mobile site that mimics App like interface, it doesn't work, take the new twitter mobile site for example, and the iScroll tha

RE: [WSG] iOS Safaro issue (?): Fixed and Absolute position

2011-08-11 Thread Tatham Oddie
Hi Tee, > (or is there magic tap for go to top shortcut?) Just tap at the top of the screen - ie, on the time display. Almost any iOS list / screen will scroll back to the top. -- Tatham *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsg

[WSG] major web site project

2011-08-11 Thread Marvin Hunkin
Hi john. Had not thought of that. And would have to purchase a usb headset, as my built in Toshiba mike is not very good quality. So, yes, could have links to read a portion of text using the jaws screen reader. I do not own window-eyes. Marvin. *

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Re: [WSG] iOS Safaro issue (?): Fixed and Absolute position

2011-08-11 Thread Caleb Wong
Hi tee, Have a look at this plugin. http://cubiq.org/iscroll-4 Cheers Caleb On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 5:43 PM, tee wrote: > > On Aug 10, 2011, at 8:18 PM, David Laakso wrote: > > > > I think position:fixed works on iOS5... > > < > http://davidbcalhoun.com/2011/new-mobile-safari-stuff-in-ios5-pos

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