I'll take it.
-Bri
--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This has reached the end of the current chain, nd is now up for grabs
again.
FRANK ZAPPA MYSTERY BOX 10 LP SET
Original LPs
Converted to wav flac level 8 tagged by DB Poweramp Puzzleoyster June
2008
SOFA---it appears that you are next in line for this DVD---sorry for the delay
in getting this to you---sometimes my gigs don't bring me home when I'd
likeplease send me your addie I'll get this gem right to ya---JGiK
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who ever is next please send me your address
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Has a short bit of Zappa talking in it :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBcKZqdlKNcfeature=related
Eddy
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The US Leg of this is going sooo slowly, I'm tempted.
But I will try to maintain patience.
SOFA
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From: r2suokas
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 4:22 PM
Subject: [Zappa-List] Lather 4 CD Euro vine
Greetings,
thanks
of the
community and partly to have some lovely Frank Zappa turn up out of the
blue, I'll leap onto this vine please R2.
So, Euro vine now goes.
Ashley (UK)
Ashley
www.afharrold.co.uk
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Behalf Of Jack C. Oonk
Sent: 02
)
Ashley
www.afharrold.co.uk http://www.afharrold.co.uk
*From:* Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*On Behalf Of *Jack C. Oonk
*Sent:* 02 October 2008 21:46
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*Subject:* Re: [Zappa-List] Lather 4 CD Euro vine
The US Leg of this is going
That's a good idea; might as well add the down under guys to this leg,
considering that this one actually moves...
The guy from New Zeeland should be after Max.
SOFA
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From: michael.kenyon
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 8:20
from New Zeeland should be after Max.
SOFA
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Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Lather 4 CD Euro vine
Don't forget me Arto!
I can
Are'nt you and Palin on TV right now??
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From: Joe Boden
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Lather 4 CD Euro vine
I'm the guy from New Zealand (waves). I've managed to track down a copy
, October 02, 2008 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Lather 4 CD Euro vine
I'm the guy from New Zealand (waves). I've
managed to track down a copy of this, so you can omit me from the vine...
cheers!
joe
At 01:40 p.m. 3/10/2008, you wrote:
That's a good idea; might as well add the down
under
Hey Craig,
You mean Joe Boden and Michael Pallin?
Marc
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Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Lather 4 CD Euro vine
Hard to resist!
Done with love, no malice..
Just nice to see democracy somewhat alive in America...
Of course, we all wonder... What would Frank say and think?
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Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 7:35 PM
: [Zappa-List] Lather 4 CD Euro vine
Hey Craig,
You mean Joe Boden and Michael Pallin?
Marc
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I keep coming back to Dumb All Over...
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Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Lather 4 CD Euro vine
No worries, as they say in this part of the world.
I suspect FZ would
You can't run a country by a book of religion.
Craig Satzman wrote:
I keep coming back to Dumb All Over...
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http://barfkoswill.shop.musictoday.com/Product.aspx?cp=971_4039_8837pc=ZPCD94
In a message dated 9/29/2008 3:35:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
_http://barfkoswill.http://barfkoswihttp://barfkhttp://barfkhttp://bapc=ZPCD9
4_
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_http://barfkoswill.http://barfkoswihttp://barfkhttp://barfkhttp://ba;WBRpc_
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94
It's only a CD, not a CD and DVD.
In a message dated 9/29/2008 4:09:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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Hey Milhouse,
Hope all is well with you. Zappa.com has Joe's Menage listed as both a CD
and a DVD. Maybe that is what abxer is referring to. I wonder if there is any
difference in the two?
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In a message dated 9/29/2008 4:20:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Zappa.com has Joe's Menage listed as both a CD and a DVD
I've checked the site up and down, but there really is no mention of a Joe's
Menage DVD.
It's not mentioned in the ZFT mail from last Friday
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In a message dated 9/29/2008 4:39:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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Anyway, Gail has confirmed that the CD features FZ, Terry Bozzio, Andre
Lewis and Roy Estrada, plus two others. The excerpt that you hear on the
site is from Carolina Hardcore Ecstasy of course. I haven't
Sorry for the confusion. I couldn't find a track listing so I couldn't tell,
but is on both pages.
Anyway, new stuff to investigate.
Joseph in NV
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Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] new CD and DVD, Joe's
No track listing yet, but it's on wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe%27s_Menage
The duration of 51:51 was simply copied from the previous entry, One-
Shot Deal.
-Bri
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Sorry for the confusion. I couldn't find a track
Jack,
Good heads-up on this topic. I'm not a betting man but if i was, i'd bet most
Obama supporters WOULD go home and change.
Phil
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Subject: [Zappa-List] Important Info on voting - Pass
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From: Jack C. Oonk
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 5:36 PM
Subject: Fw: Important Info on voting - Pass it On!!
I was not aware of this!
Forewarned, forearmed, etc...
JC
Please, please, please advise everyone you know that they absolutely
can
.
Please send me an address.
Cheers
Les.
p.s. There's no more sign ups after Bart at the moment.
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Hi, it's me again,
was there ever a Euroleg to this particular vine?, I swear I obtained
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what's a vine?
Peace.Love.Happiness.
Helen Smith
--- El mié 17-sep-08, zav_sto [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
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Asunto: [Zappa-List] Re: where's this vine these days? LATHER [4CD] BOX SET
[FLAC] [US VINE]
A: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Fecha: miércoles, 17 septiembre
Read the Welcome FAQ, Helen.
SOFA
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From: Helen Smith
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: where's this vine these days? LATHER [4CD]
BOX SET [FLAC] [US VINE]
what's a vine
Hi Bart,
There is a Euroleg.
I've got it and you're next in line.
Please send me an address.
Cheers
Les.
p.s. There's no more sign ups after Bart at the moment.
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Hi, it's me again,
was there ever a Euroleg to this particular
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Joe,
It's;
Rick Norris
3009 Gazebo Court
Silver Spring, MD
20904
Thanks!
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:52 PM
Subject: [Zappa-List] VO 1976 10 24 Boston, MA Early show (1 DVD)
Hi folks
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:52 PM
Subject: [Zappa-List] VO 1976 10 24 Boston, MA Early show (1 DVD)
Hi folks
Thanks to Marty, this has now arrived. Just to clarify, these are
.shn files. Rick N., please send me your snail mail addy.
joe
Marty (US) Joe Boden (NZ) Rick N. (US) Mark M (US
Matt S
Please send me your address offline so everybody can get this.
Thanks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ATTENTION---this is my second request to find Agostino P---you're next in
line to receive this great DVD---send me your addie I'll get this gem to
you!thanks---JGiK
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Sent: Thursday, June 26
I have 2 tickets for the ZPZ show on Halloween at the quaint 400 seat venue
that I am not going to be able to attend.
If anybody is interested in these please drop me a line. I am offereing them
for face value with 1 stipulation. I get to retain one of the 2 download codes
given out that night
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Excellent clip.
Matt
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Interesting Ruth Underwood video :
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Bri---I beleive that is me, the one and only John G in Kansas---my addie is:
John Gobetz
488 Fieldcrest
Pittsburg, Kansas 66762
thank you very much!!!---JGiK
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From: michael.kenyon
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:23 AM
So, in light of Mark's message (and assuming Matt has responded), the order now
is:
Matt S(US) Marty Guinn (US) Guy Gonzo1(US) Luis (AR) lusi_tanio@ ???
SOFA
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From: Guy
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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 4:41 PM
Subject
It hasn't arrived yet, but most packages take 2 weeks from US to
Canada.
-Bri
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About 10 days ago I sent it off to Brian in Canada. He should have
it by now..
Peace,
Craig
---
- Original Message
the sound is OK?
JG [UK]
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From: zav_sto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:11 PM
Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: where's this vine these days? LATHER [4CD] BOX
SET [FLAC] [US VINE]
It hasn't arrived yet, but most packages take
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: where's this vine these days? LATHER [4CD] BOX
SET [FLAC] [US VINE]
GUYS!
MY-OH-MY
That TIME STRETCH is so tragic
It takes around 5 days from here, UK to U S Of A/CANADA
Sent a packet to LA On thursday last, arrived today!
BTW
Has ANYONE
Thank You for the gesture of re sending but it wont be needed here as i was
the one that started the vine
it was ripped from LP So i just wondered if it passed the grade amongst the
Zappa List people?
JG [UK]
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To: Zappa-List
OK, it arrived later today and I just finished copying it. Whoever's
next in the US leg of the vine, send me your address
-Bri
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It hasn't arrived yet, but most packages take 2 weeks from US to
Canada.
-Bri
Boden (NZ) Max S (OZ) ??
SOFA
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From: zav_sto
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:13 PM
Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: where's this vine these days? LATHER [4CD] BOX
SET [FLAC] [US VINE]
OK, it arrived later today and I just
A whole bunch of albums by ex-Zappa drummer Jimmy Carl Black, The
Grandmothers and related projects is now available as downloads from CDBaby:
1. http://cdbaby.com/cd/juniorfranklin/from/wmrecordings Junior Franklin
and The Golden Echoes featuring Jimmy Carl Black: Live At KUT Radio
2.
Ok Matt this little gem will be coming your way soon! But I need your address
(Off Line of course). A real nice collection of FLACS on a single DVD.
Many thanks to Ken and the others for moving this through the vine.
Mark H
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the
whole
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You don't rip those gaps. They don't belong to any of the songs.
Eddy
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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 76-10-24 Boston upgrade disc 2 needed
What about the 2 sec
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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 76-10-24 Boston upgrade disc 2 needed
What about the 2 sec gaps ?
Why don't you just rip your own cd ?
Eddy
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From: Glen Young
Has anyone of our UK based members
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From: Glen Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 76-10-24 Boston upgrade disc 2 needed
Thanks for the advice Eddy but surely if the gaps are there then
that's
music missing
. You're not getting the gaps anywhere.
Eddy
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Thanks for the advice Eddy but surely if the gaps
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Robert S. (US) Eddy (Belgium)
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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO 1976 10 24 Boston, MA Early show (1 DVD)
You need to add your name to the end of the list Eddy
Hope I'm doing this right:
Marty (US) Joe Boden (NZ) Rick N. (US) Mark M (US)
Robert S. (US) Adam M (US) Eddy (Belgium)
Adam
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To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO
Based off the timing of my my post and the post from Robert S, I have
resubmitted my name to this vine. So the running order looks like this:
Marty (US) Joe Boden (NZ) Rick N. (US) Mark M (US)
Robert S. (US)
PEACE
Mark M
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I'd like to be in on this. I'm in Europe, so maybe this thing can run
its course in the States first before moving over to Europe...?
Eddy
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To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 5:19 PM
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You need to add your name to the end of the list Eddy... Any other US viners
will squeeze in before you.
SOFA
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From: Eddy
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO 1976 10 24 Boston, MA Early
I'd like to add my name to the list.
The new order is;
Marty (US) Joe Boden (NZ) Rick N. (US)
Thanks to all!
Rick N.
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Hi all
Thanks to Marty (waterbussy@), a vine of the 24 October 1976
Boston show (early) is now
I would like some too!
The new order is;
Marty (US) Joe Boden (NZ) Rick N. (US) Mark M (US)
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wrote:
I'd like to add my name to the list.
The new order is;
Marty (US) Joe Boden (NZ) Rick N. (US)
Thanks to all!
Rick
I would love to get in on this too.
Marty (US) Joe Boden (NZ) Rick N. (US) Robert S. (US)
--Robert
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I'd like to add my name to the list.
The new order is;
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About 10 days ago I sent it off to Brian in Canada. He should have it by now..
Peace,
Craig
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Subject: [Zappa-List] where's this vine these days? LATHER [4CD] BOX
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Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO FZ MYSTERY BOX 10LP BOX [FLAC/ART] [USA OCEANIA
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Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 2:45 PM
1969, 1929
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yes, happy birthday guys!---john g in kansas
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Subject: [Zappa-List] Happy Birthday Dweezil and Bob Newhart
1969, 1929
I'd be interested in that too if available.
-Bri
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Hello all,
I was browsing the files/database and found the Waterloo vine and
this table.
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/database?
method=reportRowstbl=7
I'll look in my collection see if I have this one---john g in kansas
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From: zav_sto
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Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 2:57 PM
Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Waterloo Canada 1973 Lossless (status check)
I'd be interested
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I never heard it. Thanks for the link.
Matt
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Hi ! New here :) Looking forward to some interesting conversation !
For those interested, here's the Evening with Zappa as a straight
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Hello allpaging Agostino P.please send me your addie I'll get this
little gem right to ya!---john g in kansas
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From: Mark Martinez
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Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:42 PM
Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO 1980 10 12
Mark H you're up next. Please send your mail addy off-list I'll get
this out to you. Thanks to Skip for sending me this great set.
Ken
Mark H (US) Matt S(US) Marty Guinn (US)
Guy Gonzo1 (US) Luis (AR) lusi_tanio@ ???
--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, skipsign [EMAIL PROTECTED
Hello all,
I was browsing the files/database and found the Waterloo vine and
this table.
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/database?
method=reportRowstbl=7
It appears the last activity was in February 2006.
I'm interested in this vine, but it looks like it may have died.
Andrew
As with the Waterloo vine, this one died shortly after starting.
See database at
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/database?
method=reportRowstbl=8
Again, I'd like to jump on the end, wherever it is.
Help, anyone?
thanks,
Joseph in NV
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Two years after my move I have finally been able to get back to looking at my
collection of FZ vines, putting it all together again. I had a few of Chris
F.'s covers and found many more in the files. Chris, those are great
-- colorful and nice photos chosen.
In the process I found some
address.
PEACE
Mark M
--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, sofa2099 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would also like to grab this one, as it is a USA - Oceania Vine.
jg(UK) John K (US) Rick N (US) Mark M (US)agostino
p.(usa) Allan H (New Zealand)
On Monday agostino purpura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
were liking it!
always, f|u|a
-- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, Eli Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Great clip! very creative!
I loved the editing,
how did you do the library sequence near the end with all the images
of you?
--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, flulaborg djflula@ wrote
I some how missed this the first time. Glad I caught it, as it was a great deal
of fun.
Darrell aka Mr. Skull
Ja Hallo! Thank you very much!
Yes, the ending was some trickyness! I had to be very caring with it,
if I made a mess up I had to start from the start again! Poop on that
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According to the post below, Agostino is next in line for this vine.
So... Agostino please send me your mailing address.
PEACE
Mark M
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I would also like to grab this one, as it is a USA - Oceania Vine.
jg(UK) John K (US
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Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 11:30 AM
Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO FZ MYSTERY BOX 10LP BOX [FLAC/ART] [USA OCEANIA
VINE]
According to the post below, Agostino is next in line for this vine.
So... Agostino please send me your mailing address
Could Bart (pol) send me address details - ready to send on Monday
reinhardtken, you're up next. Please send me your snail-mail and I'll
ship this out Monday.
-Skip
reinhardtken (US) Mark H (US) Matt S(US) Marty Guinn (US)
Guy Gonzo1 (US) Luis (AR) lusi_tanio@ ???
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Hry Rick,
Here I am
Thanks and if possible, could you send me a link for the current list of vine
member ??
Thanks,
Craig Satzman
3562 alana drive
sherman oaks, cal
91403
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