Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-13 Thread Lluís Mendieta
Hi, Bill I beg to differ in two non zen questions -Hungry? has the subject implicit. You do not place it, but it is implied. The werb in spanish or catalan would be also implicit, so, I suppose same in english. -finnish is a westerner language. And they have a lot of words to design the

[Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-13 Thread ED
Finnish is the eponymous member of the Finno-Ugric language family /wiki/Finno-Ugric_languages and is typologically /wiki/Morphological_typology between fusional /wiki/Fusional_language and agglutinative languages /wiki/Agglutinative_language . It modifies and inflects /wiki/Inflection the

Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-13 Thread Lluís Mendieta
Hi, Ed Well, I am at lost in what you mind I understand that they are westerners, as we are, even being indo-european.. (so, roots in east). But all that is dualisticand not zen (or at least, deceiving) :-) With best wishes Lluís - Original Message - From: ED To:

[Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-13 Thread ED
Hi Lluis, 'Uralic' and 'Indo-European' are clasified as related but separate families of languages. See chart below. With best wishes, --ED http://www.friesian.com/trees.htm http://www.friesian.com/trees.htm Language Affinities Beween Autochthonous Populations The second tree below

Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-13 Thread Anthony Wu
ED,   Your picture says, 'if you don't ask, you don't suffer'. That is nonsense. Suffering exists whether you ask or not. The difference is whether you know it.   Anthony --- On Sat, 13/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from

Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-13 Thread Anthony Wu
ED,   That is a good article.   Anthony --- On Sat, 13/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 13 November, 2010, 10:57 AM   The geography of thought:

Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-13 Thread Maria Lopez
Hi ED:   I don't understand your questioning here.  It doesn't make much sense for instance the question:  What do you mean by Do you have an attachment to your need for 'them' to practice more?.  Attachemnt to what?.  Can you elaborate it?   ED:...but I suspect that you are saying that persons

Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-13 Thread Maria Lopez
ED:   Apologies. Can't understand myself previous post. Trying   again here:   I don't understand your questioning here.  It doesn't make much sense for instance the question:  What do you mean by Do you have an attachment to your need for 'them' to practise more?.  Need of what?, Attachment to

[Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-13 Thread ED
Mayka, I could talk about zen practice. What sorts of things should we be talking about that would nourish zen practice? --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez flordel...@... wrote: ED: No I don't have any objection of people having a good time for as long and as the central

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-13 Thread BillSmart
Lluis, In the example I used ‘Hungry?’ you are correct that the subject (you) is implied probably because it is a question. How about ‘Hungry!’; or better yet ‘Fire!’?. In the case of ‘Fire!’ there is no subject/object implied – just ‘Fire!’, Just THIS! It’s interesting to learn that Finnish

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-13 Thread BillSmart
Anthony, Actually Thai does not really have three tenses as I said, not in the same way as English or Spanish has. They only have one form of a verb – Present tense. They use modifiers to designate other tenses, but only two other tenses I know of – Past and Future. An example would

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-13 Thread BillSmart
Anthony, I’m sure you’ve seen a dog with only three legs. It doesn’t suffer, at least doesn’t suffer from the self-pity that most humans would have. The self-pity (or envy) is what the Buddhist ‘suffering’ refers to – not physical discomforts such as pain, hunger, etc… …Bill! From:

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-13 Thread BillSmart
Anthony, Thai’s do an unusual thing with names. Their names are basically the same as Western names: given name – family name. But when they list them alphabetically, like in a phone book, they alphabetize by the first (given) name. That presents as little problem for computer

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-13 Thread BillSmart
Anthony, You surprise me! Your Thai is very good, and you even used the word ‘ha’ for ‘look for’. That’s an Issan word. That's my area of Thailand. The Bangkok Thai word would be ‘pope’ as in ‘discover’. …Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-13 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill, They are not tenses. Modifiers are used to denote them. By next Tuesday I will have been going to class for 5 weeks. can be translated into Chinese as: Xia xingqier wo jianghui shang wuge xingqi ke le. The 'le' at the end is the equivalent of the Thai 'laow'. I am sure there is the

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-13 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill, You mean a dog feels pain, but doesn't suffer. You have to cram 'Doggie Language Made Simple' and argue with a dog. Anthony --- On Sun, 14/11/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-13 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill, Thank you . I leaned some more Thai. Anthony --- On Sun, 14/11/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 14 November, 2010,

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-13 Thread BillSmart
Anthony, Issan is indeed a Thai dialect. It's kind of a blend of Thai and Lao. It's obvious that Chinese is the major contributor to the Thai ethnic mix. Their culture, written language, traditional dress, etc..., seems to also have a lot of Indian qualities. And physically I think the