FW: Re: SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-16 Thread Bill Smart
] To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat 16/02/08 7:39 AM Subject: Fwd: Re: SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L. Bill, Thank you for your `welcome back`! As for trying to change yourself from within to affect society - understood. I`m with you on that one too. But it`s amazing the amount of flak you get

Re: SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-15 Thread mike brown
: Bill Smart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 15 February, 2008 8:06:48 PM Subject: RE: SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L. Mike, I’m glad you survived the journey to China. I hope you weren’t adversely affected by all the snow that parts of China has been reporting. I

RE: SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-15 Thread Bill Smart
ps.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike brown Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:47 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L. Hi Bill, Well, glad to report that I survived the journey from China to Japan! Now, in response to your last email I would say t

Re: SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-14 Thread mike brown
ject: Re: SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L. Remember that little ditty about the monk who picks the scorpion out of the water to save it, because that's the monk's nature, and how the scorpion stings the monk, because that's the scorpion's nature, and how the scorpion falls back in the wate

Re: SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-14 Thread mike brown
meat industry). Either way, by act or omission, their choices affect society politically. Mike. - Original Message From: Bill Smart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 11 February, 2008 4:19:18 PM Subject: SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L. Mike, Have a goo

Re: SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-11 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com Subject: [Zen] Re: D.L. As always, each time, when we expressed an opinion, we could take usually just one position. This DL issue is much more complicated and no different than most of th

Re: SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-11 Thread pandabananasock
Remember that little ditty about the monk who picks the scorpion out of the water to save it, because that's the monk's nature, and how the scorpion stings the monk, because that's the scorpion's nature, and how the scorpion falls back in the water and the monk still picks it out of the water to sa

SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-10 Thread Bill Smart
TED]> > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, 10 February, 2008 7:23:58 PM > Subject: SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L. > > Mike, > > Saying 'everything we do or don't do is political' is true only for > those who see everything from a political perspective. It&#

Re: SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-10 Thread mike brown
ond I will give you a broadside! Later, Mike. - Original Message From: Bill Smart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 10 February, 2008 7:23:58 PM Subject: SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L. Mike, Saying 'everything we do or don't do is political' i

SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-10 Thread Bill Smart
Mike, Saying 'everything we do or don't do is political' is true only for those who see everything from a political perspective. It's the same as saying 'everything we do or don't do is zen' - and that's said a lot on this forum. That's true too, from a certain perspective. There's an import

Re: SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-10 Thread mike brown
10 February, 2008 9:21:24 AM Subject: SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L. The Dalai Lama came to Atlanta recently and was well recieved I wouldn't want to be a martyr either... could it be that he gets more done by not becoming a martyr? If he can just get westerners to show more compassion/respec

SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-10 Thread craig omanion
en, not Buddhism. Thanks again for your post…Bill! From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:41 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zen] Re: D.L. As always, each time, when we expressed an opinion, we could tak

Re: [Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-08 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
feeding the hungry tigers. And that includes me. ...Bill! From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]com] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 9:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: D.L. Hi Bill, How is Thailand? Snowing like GuangTong? You have raised

RE: [Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-08 Thread Bill Smart
day, February 09, 2008 9:18 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: D.L. Hi Bill, How is Thailand? Snowing like GuangTong? You have raised two points. There are valid ones. 1. Based on my limited understanding, Chan is resulted from extracting the essence of Buddhism and

Re: [Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-08 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Buddhism, you’re not answering my question.  My questions is about zen, not Buddhism.   Thanks again for your post…Bill!   From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 [mailto:chan.[EMAIL PROTECTED]com] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com Subject: [Zen] Re

RE: [Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-08 Thread Bill Smart
: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zen] Re: D.L. As always, each time, when we expressed an opinion, we could take usually just one position. This DL issue is much more complicated and no different than most of the world events. How can we express all the opinions from all different angles with

[Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-08 Thread Charlie
"Jody W. Ianuzzi" > Thank you. > > Very well put and very educational. Thank you. Now I understand the problem better than I ever did. When do we leave for Tibet? There is a very educational video on the topic called RAMBO 4 which could give us some tips on dealing with the Chinese Governm

Re: [Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-08 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Jody, Don't thank me.  I am not taking sides.  :-) None of us knows the whole truth.  We all are just guessing.  Perhaps that's the fun of it, ignorance. JM Jody W. Ianuzzi wrote: Hello Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 Thank you. JODY "WE MUST BE THE CHANGE WE WISH TO SEE IN TH

Re: [Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-08 Thread Jody W. Ianuzzi
Hello Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 Thank you. JODY "WE MUST BE THE CHANGE WE WISH TO SEE IN THE WORLD" ~ Gandhi Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://gr

[Zen] Re: D.L.

2008-02-08 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
As always, each time, when we expressed an opinion, we could take usually just one position. This DL issue is much more complicated and no different than most of the world events. How can we express all the opinions from all different angles with language? I don't know the answer. Here a