Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] Petabyte pool?

2013-03-16 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote: On 2013-03-16 15:20, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sat, 16 Mar 2013, Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral wrote: Well, off the top of my head: 2 x Storage Heads, 4 x 10G, 256G RAM, 2 x Intel E5 CPU's 8 x 60-Bay JBOD's with 60

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-27 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Dan Swartzendruber dswa...@druber.comwrote: I've been using it since rc13. It's been stable for me as long as you don't get into things like zvols and such... Then it definitely isn't at the level of FreeBSD, and personally I would not consider that

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-26 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Tiernan OToole lsmart...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks all! I will check out FreeNAS and see what it can do... I will also check my RAID Card and see if it can work with JBOD... fingers crossed... The machine has a couple internal SATA ports (think there are 2, could

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-25 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Tiernan OToole lsmart...@gmail.com wrote: Good morning all. My home NAS died over the weekend, and it leaves me with a lot of spare drives (5 2Tb and 3 1Tb disks). I have a Dell Poweredge 2900 Server sitting in the house, which has not been doing much over

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-25 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Volker A. Brandt v...@bb-c.de wrote: Tim Cook writes: I need something that will allow me to share files over SMB (3 if possible), NFS, AFP (for Time Machine) and iSCSI. Ideally, i would like something i can manage easily and something that works

Re: [zfs-discuss] Feature Request for zfs pool/filesystem protection?

2013-02-21 Thread Tim Cook
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Jan Owoc jso...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Markus, On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Markus Grundmann mar...@freebsduser.eu wrote: I think the zfs allow|deny feature is only for filesystems. I wish me a feature to protect the complete pool. The property is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Feature Request for zfs pool/filesystem protection?

2013-02-20 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Markus Grundmann mar...@freebsduser.euwrote: Hi! My name is Markus and I living in germany. I'm new to this list and I have a simple question related to zfs. My favorite operating system is FreeBSD and I'm very happy to use zfs on them. It's possible to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Feature Request for zfs pool/filesystem protection?

2013-02-20 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Richard Elling richard.ell...@gmail.comwrote: On Feb 20, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Markus Grundmann mar...@freebsduser.eu wrote: Hi! My name is Markus and I living in germany. I'm new to this list and I have a simple question related to zfs. My favorite operating

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is there performance penalty when adding vdev to existing pool

2013-02-20 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: On 02/21/2013 12:27 AM, Peter Wood wrote: Will adding another vdev hurt the performance? In general, the answer is: no. ZFS will try to balance writes to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Feature Request for zfs pool/filesystem protection?

2013-02-20 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Richard Elling richard.ell...@gmail.comwrote: On Feb 20, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Richard Elling richard.ell...@gmail.comwrote: On Feb 20, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Markus Grundmann mar...@freebsduser.eu wrote

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs-discuss mailing list opensolaris EOL

2013-02-17 Thread Tim Cook
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com wrote: From: Tim Cook [mailto:t...@cook.ms] Why would I spend all that time and energy participating in ANOTHER list controlled by Oracle, when

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs-discuss mailing list opensolaris EOL

2013-02-16 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com wrote: In the absence of any official response, I guess we just have to assume this list will be shut down, right? So I guess we just have to

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs-discuss mailing list opensolaris EOL

2013-02-16 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com wrote: From: Tim Cook [mailto:t...@cook.ms] That would be the logical decision, yes. Not to poke fun, but did you really expect an official

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs-discuss mailing list opensolaris EOL

2013-02-16 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 3:42 PM, cindy swearingen cindy.swearin...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Ned and Everyone, This was new news to use too and we're just talking over some options yesterday afternoon so please give us a chance to regroup and provide some alternatives. This list will be

Re: [zfs-discuss] maczfs / ZEVO

2013-02-15 Thread Tim Cook
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com wrote: Anybody using maczfs / ZEVO? Have good or bad things to say, in terms of reliability, performance, features? ** ** My main reason for

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS monitoring

2013-02-11 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Borja Marcos bor...@sarenet.es wrote: Hello, I'n updating Devilator, the performance data collector for Orca and FreeBSD to include ZFS monitoring. So far I am graphing the ARC and L2ARC size, L2ARC writes and reads, and several hit/misses data pairs. Any

Re: [zfs-discuss] RFE: Un-dedup for unique blocks

2013-01-20 Thread Tim Cook
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Richard Elling richard.ell...@gmail.comwrote: On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Edward Harvey imaginat...@nedharvey.com wrote: But, by talking about it, we're just smoking pipe dreams. Cuz we all know zfs is developmentally challenged now. But one can dream...

Re: [zfs-discuss] dm-crypt + ZFS on Linux

2012-11-23 Thread Tim Cook
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 9:49 AM, John Baxter johnleebax...@gmail.comwrote: We have the need to encypt our data, approximately 30TB on three ZFS volumes under Solaris 10. The volumes currently reside on iscsi sans connected via 10Gb/s ethernet. We have tested Solaris 11 with ZFS encrypted

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-22 Thread Tim Cook
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote: On 2012-11-22 17:31, Darren J Moffat wrote: Is it possible to use the ZFS Storage appliances in a similar way, and fire up a Solaris zone (or a few) directly on the box for general-purpose software; or to shell-script

Re: [zfs-discuss] cannot replace X with Y: devices have different sector alignment

2012-11-12 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Trond Michelsen tron...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Jan Owoc jso...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Trond Michelsen tron...@gmail.com wrote: How can I

Re: [zfs-discuss] cannot replace X with Y: devices have different sector alignment

2012-11-10 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Jan Owoc jso...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Trond Michelsen tron...@gmail.com wrote: When I try to replace the old drive, I get this error: # zpool replace tank c4t5000C5002AA2F8D6d0 c4t5000C5004DE863F2d0 cannot replace

Re: [zfs-discuss] cannot replace X with Y: devices have different sector alignment

2012-11-10 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Jan Owoc jso...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Jan Owoc jso...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Trond Michelsen tron...@gmail.com wrote: When I try to replace the old drive, I get this error: # zpool replace tank

Re: [zfs-discuss] FC HBA for openindiana

2012-10-21 Thread Tim Cook
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Erik Trimble tr...@netdemons.com wrote: Do make sure you're getting one that has the proper firmware. Those with BIOS don't work in SPARC boxes, and those with OpenBoot don't work in x64 stuff. A quick Sun FC HBA search on ebay turns up a whole list of

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] portable zfs send streams (preview webrev)

2012-10-20 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net wrote: On 10/20/2012 01:10 AM, Tim Cook wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net mailto:sensi...@gmx.net wrote: On 10/19/2012 09:58 PM, Matthew Ahrens wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 5

Re: [zfs-discuss] FC HBA for openindiana

2012-10-20 Thread Tim Cook
The built in drivers support Mpha so you're good to go. On Friday, October 19, 2012, Christof Haemmerle wrote: Yep i Need. 4 Gig with multipathing if possible. On Oct 19, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Tim Cook t...@cook.ms javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 't...@cook.ms'); wrote: On Friday, October 19

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] portable zfs send streams (preview webrev)

2012-10-19 Thread Tim Cook
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net wrote: On 10/19/2012 09:58 PM, Matthew Ahrens wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net mailto:sensi...@gmx.net wrote: We have finished a beta version of the feature. A webrev for it can be

Re: [zfs-discuss] FC HBA for openindiana

2012-10-19 Thread Tim Cook
On Friday, October 19, 2012, Christof Haemmerle wrote: hi there, i need to connect some old raid subsystems to a opensolaris box via fibre channel. can you recommend any FC HBA? thanx __ How old? If its 1gbit you'll need a 4gb or slower hba. Qlogic would be

Re: [zfs-discuss] vm server storage mirror

2012-09-27 Thread Tim Cook
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com wrote: From: Tim Cook [mailto:t...@cook.ms] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 3:45 PM I would suggest if you're doing a crossover between

Re: [zfs-discuss] vm server storage mirror

2012-09-26 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com wrote: Here's another one. ** ** Two identical servers are sitting side by side. They could be connected to each other via anything (presently

Re: [zfs-discuss] Question about ZFS snapshots

2012-09-20 Thread Tim Cook
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Stefan Ring stefan...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 6:31 AM, andy thomas a...@time-domain.co.uk wrote: I have a ZFS filseystem and create weekly snapshots over a period of 5 weeks called week01, week02, week03, week04 and week05 respectively. Ny

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Tim Cook
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, Erik Ableson wrote: The bigger issue you'll run into will be data sizing as a year's worth of snapshot basically means that you're keeping a journal of every single write that's

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZIL devices and fragmentation

2012-07-30 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Richard Elling richard.ell...@gmail.comwrote: On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: - Opprinnelig melding - On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk r...@karlsbakk.net wrote: Also keep in mind that if you have an

Re: [zfs-discuss] New fast hash algorithm - is it needed?

2012-07-12 Thread Tim Cook
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Edward Ned Harvey opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com wrote: From: Jim Klimov [mailto:jimkli...@cos.ru] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 8:42 AM To: Edward Ned Harvey Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] New fast hash algorithm - is it needed?

Re: [zfs-discuss] Two disks giving errors in a raidz pool, advice needed

2012-04-24 Thread Tim Cook
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Matt Breitbach matth...@flash.shanje.comwrote: So this is a point of debate that probably deserves being brought to the floor (probably for the umpteenth time, but indulge me). I've heard from several people that I'd consider experts that once per year

Re: [zfs-discuss] Aaron Toponce: Install ZFS on Debian GNU/Linux

2012-04-18 Thread Tim Cook
Oracle never promised anything. A leaked internal memo does not signify an official company policy or statement. On Apr 18, 2012 11:13 AM, Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Cindy Swearingen cindy.swearin...@oracle.com wrote: Hmmm, how come they have

Re: [zfs-discuss] Drive upgrades

2012-04-13 Thread Tim Cook
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Edward Ned Harvey opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Michael Armstrong Is there a way to quickly ascertain if my seagate/hitachi

Re: [zfs-discuss] Drive upgrades

2012-04-13 Thread Tim Cook
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote: You will however have an issue replacing them if one should fail. You need to have the same block count to replace a device, which is why I asked

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and spread-spares (kinda like GPFS declustered RAID)?

2012-01-07 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Richard Elling richard.ell...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Jim, On Jan 6, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Jim Klimov wrote: Hello all, I have a new idea up for discussion. Several RAID systems have implemented spread spare drives in the sense that there is not an idling

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

2012-01-05 Thread Tim Cook
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Richard Elling richard.ell...@gmail.comwrote: On Jan 5, 2012, at 6:53 AM, sol wrote: if a bug fixed in Illumos is never reported to Oracle by a customer, it would likely never get fixed in Solaris either :-( I would have liked to think that there was

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Recovery: What do I try next?

2011-12-22 Thread Tim Cook
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Myers Carpenter my...@maski.org wrote: On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Myers Carpenter my...@maski.org wrote: I would like to pick the brains of the ZFS experts on this list: What would you do next to try and recover this zfs pool? I hate running across

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can I create a mirror for a root rpool?

2011-12-15 Thread Tim Cook
Do you still need to do the grub install? On Dec 15, 2011 5:40 PM, Cindy Swearingen cindy.swearin...@oracle.com wrote: Hi Anon, The disk that you attach to the root pool will need an SMI label and a slice 0. The syntax to attach a disk to create a mirrored root pool is like this, for

Re: [zfs-discuss] slow zfs send/recv speed

2011-11-15 Thread Tim Cook
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Andrew Gabriel andrew.gabr...@oracle.comwrote: On 11/15/11 23:05, Anatoly wrote: Good day, The speed of send/recv is around 30-60 MBytes/s for initial send and 17-25 MBytes/s for incremental. I have seen lots of setups with 1 disk to 100+ disks in pool.

Re: [zfs-discuss] about btrfs and zfs

2011-10-18 Thread Tim Cook
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Mark Sandrock mark.sandr...@oracle.comwrote: On Oct 18, 2011, at 11:09 AM, Nico Williams wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Brian Wilson wrote: I just wanted to add something on fsck on ZFS - because for me that used to make ZFS 'not ready for

Re: [zfs-discuss] about btrfs and zfs

2011-10-18 Thread Tim Cook
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Kees Nuyt k.n...@zonnet.nl wrote: On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:05:29 -0500, Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote: Doesn't a scrub do more than what 'fsck' does? Not really. fsck will work on an offline filesystem to correct errors and bring it back online. Scrub

Re: [zfs-discuss] about btrfs and zfs

2011-10-18 Thread Tim Cook
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Peter Tribble peter.trib...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote: Every scrub I've ever done that has found an error required manual fixing. Every pool I've ever created has been raid-z or raid-z2, so the silent

Re: [zfs-discuss] about btrfs and zfs

2011-10-18 Thread Tim Cook
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Peter Tribble peter.trib...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Peter Tribble peter.trib...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote

Re: [zfs-discuss] Wanted: sanity check for a clustered ZFS idea

2011-10-15 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote: Thanks to all that replied. I hope we may continue the discussion, but I'm afraid the overall verdict so far is disapproval of the idea. It is my understanding that those active in discussion considered it either too limited

Re: [zfs-discuss] Wanted: sanity check for a clustered ZFS idea

2011-10-14 Thread Tim Cook
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote: 2011-10-14 15:53, Edward Ned Harvey пишет: From: zfs-discuss-bounces@**opensolaris.orgzfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org[mailto: zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Jim Klimov I guess Richard was correct

Re: [zfs-discuss] Kernel panic on zpool import. 200G of data inaccessible!

2011-08-19 Thread Tim Cook
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Stu Whitefish swhitef...@yahoo.com wrote: It seems that obtaining an Oracle support contract or a contract renewal is equally frustrating. I don't have any axe to grind with Oracle. I'm new to the Solaris thing and wanted to see if it was for me. If I was

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance question over NFS

2011-08-18 Thread Tim Cook
What are the specs on the client? On Aug 18, 2011 10:28 AM, Thomas Nau thomas@uni-ulm.de wrote: Dear all. We finally got all the parts for our new fileserver following several recommendations we got over this list. We use Dell R715, 96GB RAM, dual 8-core Opterons 1 10GE Intel dual-port

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import hangs any zfs-related programs, eats all RAM and dies in swapping hell

2011-06-14 Thread Tim Cook
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Frank Van Damme frank.vanda...@gmail.comwrote: 2011/6/10 Tim Cook t...@cook.ms: While your memory may be sufficient, that cpu is sorely lacking. Is it even 64bit? There's a reason intel couldn't give those things away in the early 2000s and amd

Re: [zfs-discuss] Q: pool didn't expand. why? can I force it?

2011-06-12 Thread Tim Cook
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:54 AM, Johan Eliasson johan.eliasson.j...@gmail.com wrote: I replaced a smaller disk in my tank2, so now they're all 2TB. But look, zfs still thinks it's a pool of 1.5 TB disks: nebol@filez:~# zpool list tank2 NAMESIZE ALLOC FREECAP DEDUP HEALTH

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hard link space savings

2011-06-12 Thread Tim Cook
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Nico Williams n...@cryptonector.comwrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Scott Lawson scott.law...@manukau.ac.nz wrote: I have an interesting question that may or may not be answerable from some internal ZFS semantics. This is really standard Unix

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import hangs any zfs-related programs, eats all RAM and dies in swapping hell

2011-06-10 Thread Tim Cook
On Jun 10, 2011 11:52 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote: 2011-06-10 18:00, Steve Gonczi пишет: Hi Jim, I wonder what OS version you are running? There was a problem similar to what you are describing in earlier versions in the 13x kernel series. Should not be present in the 14x

Re: [zfs-discuss] Metadata (DDT) Cache Bias

2011-06-05 Thread Tim Cook
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Edward Ned Harvey opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com wrote: From: Richard Elling [mailto:richard.ell...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 9:10 PM Instant Poll : Yes/No ? No. Methinks the MRU/MFU balance algorithm adjustment is

Re: [zfs-discuss] JBOD recommendation for ZFS usage

2011-05-30 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Jim Klimov j...@cos.ru wrote: Thanks, now I have someone to interrogate, who seems to have seen these boxes live - if you don't mind ;) - Original Message - From: Richard Elling richard.ell...@gmail.com Date: Monday, May 30, 2011 22:04 We also

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-25 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Frank Van Damme frank.vanda...@gmail.comwrote: Op 25-05-11 14:27, joerg.moellenk...@sun.com schreef: Well, at first ZFS development is no standard body and at the end everything has to be measured in compatibility to the Oracle ZFS implementation Why?

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-25 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Paul Kraus p...@kraus-haus.org wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: The method the IETF uses seems to be particularly immune to vendor interference. Vendors who want to participate in defining an

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris vs FreeBSD question

2011-05-18 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Paul Kraus p...@kraus-haus.org wrote: Over the past few months I have seen mention of FreeBSD a couple time in regards to ZFS. My question is how stable (reliable) is ZFS on this platform ? This is for a home server and the reason I am asking is that

Re: [zfs-discuss] Deduplication Memory Requirements

2011-05-09 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:11 AM, Evaldas Auryla evaldas.aur...@edqm.euwrote: On 05/ 6/11 07:21 PM, Brandon High wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Ray Van Dolsonrvandol...@esri.com wrote: We use dedupe on our VMware datastores and typically see 50% savings, often times more. We do of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Deduplication Memory Requirements

2011-05-04 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Erik Trimble erik.trim...@oracle.comwrote: On 5/4/2011 4:14 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote: On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 02:55:55PM -0700, Brandon High wrote: On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Erik Trimbleerik.trim...@oracle.com wrote: I suspect that NetApp

Re: [zfs-discuss] Deduplication Memory Requirements

2011-05-04 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Erik Trimble erik.trim...@oracle.comwrote: On 5/4/2011 4:44 PM, Tim Cook wrote: On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Erik Trimble erik.trim...@oracle.comwrote: On 5/4/2011 4:14 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote: On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 02:55:55PM -0700, Brandon High

Re: [zfs-discuss] Deduplication Memory Requirements

2011-05-04 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Edward Ned Harvey opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Erik Trimble ZFS's problem is that it needs ALL the resouces for EACH pool ALL

Re: [zfs-discuss] Deduplication Memory Requirements

2011-05-04 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Edward Ned Harvey opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Ray Van Dolson Are any of you out there using dedupe ZFS file systems to store

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Going forward after Oracle - Let's get organized, let's get started.

2011-04-09 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Garrett D'Amore garr...@nexenta.com wrote: On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 08:56 +1200, Ian Collins wrote: On 04/10/11 05:41 AM, Chris Forgeron wrote: I see your point, but you also have to understand that sometimes too many helpers/opinions are a bad thing. There is

Re: [zfs-discuss] dual protocal on one file system?

2011-03-12 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Fred Liu fred_...@issi.com wrote: Hi, Is it possible to run both CIFS and NFS on one file system over ZFS? Thanks. Fred Yes, but managing permissions in that scenario is generally a nightmare. If you're using NFSv4 with AD integration, it's a

Re: [zfs-discuss] dual protocal on one file system?

2011-03-12 Thread Tim Cook
2011/3/12 Fred Liu fred_...@issi.com Tim, Thanks. Is there a mapping mechanism like what DataOnTap does to map the permission/acl between NIS/LDAP and AD? Thanks. Fred *From:* Tim Cook [mailto:t...@cook.ms] *Sent:* 星期日, 三月 13, 2011 9:53 *To:* Fred Liu *Cc:* zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] cannot replace c10t0d0 with c10t0d0: device is too small

2011-03-04 Thread Tim Cook
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Robert Hartzell b...@rwhartzell.netwrote: In 2007 I bought 6 WD1600JS 160GB sata disks and used 4 to create a raidz storage pool and then shelved the other two for spares. One of the disks failed last night so I shut down the server and replaced it with a

Re: [zfs-discuss] A few questions

2011-01-04 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Garrett D'Amore garr...@nexenta.com wrote: On 01/ 3/11 05:08 AM, Robert Milkowski wrote: On 12/26/10 05:40 AM, Tim Cook wrote: On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Richard Elling richard.ell...@gmail.com wrote: There are more people outside of Oracle

Re: [zfs-discuss] A few questions

2011-01-04 Thread Tim Cook
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Garrett D'Amore garr...@nexenta.com wrote: On 01/ 4/11 09:15 PM, Tim Cook wrote: On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Garrett D'Amore garr...@nexenta.comwrote: On 01/ 3/11 05:08 AM, Robert Milkowski wrote: On 12/26/10 05:40 AM, Tim Cook wrote: On Sat, Dec

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ... open source moving forward?

2010-12-25 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Edward Ned Harvey opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Joerg Schilling And people should note that Netapp filed their patents

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ... open source moving forward?

2010-12-25 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Erik Trimble erik.trim...@oracle.comwrote: On 12/25/2010 6:25 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Joerg Schilling And people should note that Netapp filed their

Re: [zfs-discuss] A few questions

2010-12-25 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Richard Elling richard.ell...@gmail.comwrote: On Dec 21, 2010, at 5:05 AM, Deano wrote: The question therefore is, is there room in the software implementation to achieve performance and reliability numbers similar to expensive drives whilst using relative

Re: [zfs-discuss] Disk failed, System not booting

2010-12-20 Thread Tim Cook
Just boot off a live cd, import the pool, and swap it that way. I'm guessing you havent changed your failmode to continue? On Dec 20, 2010 10:48 AM, Albert Frenz y...@zockbar.de wrote: hi there, i got freenas installed with a raidz1 pool of 3 disks. one of them now failed and it gives me

Re: [zfs-discuss] OT: anyone aware how to obtain 1.8.0 for X2100M2?

2010-12-19 Thread Tim Cook
You have to have a support contract to download BIOS and firmware now. On Dec 19, 2010 12:29 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: I realize this is off-topic, but Oracle has completely screwed up the support site from Sun. I figured someone here would know how to obtain Sun Fire X2100 M2

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mixing different disk sizes in a pool?

2010-12-18 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Ian D rewar...@hotmail.com wrote: Another question: all those disks are on Dell MD1000 JBODs (11 of them) and we have 12 SAS ports on three LSI 9200-16e HBAs. Is there any point connecting each JBOD on a separate port or is it ok cascading them in groups of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mixing different disk sizes in a pool?

2010-12-18 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Ian D rewar...@hotmail.com wrote: The answer really depends on what you want to do with pool(s). You'll have to provide more information. Get the maximum of very random IOPS I get can out of those drives for database usage. -- Random IOPS won't max

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ... open source moving forward?

2010-12-16 Thread Tim Cook
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Linder, Doug doug.lin...@merchantlink.comwrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: The reason for not being able to use ZFS under Linux is not the license used by ZFS but the missing will for integration. Several lawyers explained already why adding ZFS to the Linux

Re: [zfs-discuss] Guide to COMSTAR iSCSI?

2010-12-13 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Chris Mosetick cmoset...@gmail.com wrote: I have found this post from Mike La Spina to be very detailed covering this topic, yet I could not seem to get it to work right on my first hasty attempt a while back. Let me know if you have success, or adjustments

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ... open source moving forward?

2010-12-11 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Edward Ned Harvey opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com wrote: Problem is... Oracle is now the only company in the world who's immune to netapp lawsuit over ZFS. Even if IBM and Dell

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ... open source moving forward?

2010-12-11 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote: I don't believe that there is a significant risk as the NetApp patents are invalid because of prior art. You are not a court of law, and that statement has

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ... open source moving forward?

2010-12-10 Thread Tim Cook
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: It's been a while since I last heard anybody say anything about this. What's the latest version of publicly released ZFS? Has oracle made it closed-source

Re: [zfs-discuss] 3TB HDD in ZFS

2010-12-06 Thread Tim Cook
It's based on a jumper on most new drives. On Dec 6, 2010 8:41 PM, taemun tae...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 December 2010 13:25, Brandon High bh...@freaks.com wrote: There shouldn't be any problems using a 3TB drive with Solaris, so long as you're using a 64-bit kernel. Recent versions of zfs

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zfs ignoring spares?

2010-12-05 Thread Tim Cook
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk r...@karlsbakk.netwrote: Hi all I have installed a new server with 77 2TB drives in 11 7-drive RAIDz2 VDEVs, all on WD Black drives. Now, it seems two of these drives were bad, one of them had a bunch of errors, the other was very slow.

Re: [zfs-discuss] OCZ RevoDrive ZFS support

2010-11-29 Thread Tim Cook
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Krunal Desai mov...@gmail.com wrote: There are problems with Sandforce controllers, according to forum posts. Buggy firmware. And in practice, Sandforce is far below it's theoretical values. I expect Intel to have fewer problems. I believe it's more the

Re: [zfs-discuss] OCZ RevoDrive ZFS support

2010-11-28 Thread Tim Cook
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote: There are problems with Sandforce controllers, according to forum posts. Buggy firmware. And in practice, Sandforce is far below it's theoretical values. I expect Intel to have fewer problems. According to

Re: [zfs-discuss] OCZ RevoDrive ZFS support

2010-11-28 Thread Tim Cook
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:42 AM, David Magda dma...@ee.ryerson.ca wrote: On Nov 27, 2010, at 16:14, Tim Cook wrote: You don't need drivers for any SATA based SSD. It shows up as a standard hard drive and plugs into a standard SATA port. By the time the G3 Intel drive is out, the next gen

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ext. UPS-backed SATA SSD ZIL?

2010-11-27 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Christopher George cgeo...@ddrdrive.comwrote: I haven't had a chance to test a Vertex 2 PRO against my 2 EX, and I'd be interested if anyone else has. I recently presented at the OpenStorage Summit 2010 and compared exactly the three devices you mention in

Re: [zfs-discuss] OCZ RevoDrive ZFS support

2010-11-27 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote: A noob question: These drives that people talk about, can you use them as a system disc too? Install Solaris 11 Express on them? Or can you only use them as a L2ARC or Zil? -- They're a standard SATA hard

Re: [zfs-discuss] OCZ RevoDrive ZFS support

2010-11-27 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote: Your system drive on a Solaris system generally doesn't see enough I/O activity to require the kind of IOPS you can get out of most modern SSD's. My system drive sees a lot of activity, to the degree

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ext. UPS-backed SATA SSD ZIL?

2010-11-27 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Christopher George cgeo...@ddrdrive.comwrote: Why would you disable TRIM on an SSD benchmark? Because ZFS does *not* support TRIM, so the benchmarks are configured to replicate actual ZIL Accelerator workloads. If you're doing sustained high-IOPS workloads

Re: [zfs-discuss] OCZ RevoDrive ZFS support

2010-11-27 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote: I am waiting for the next gen Intel SSD drives, G3. They are arriving very soon. And from what I can infer by reading here, I can use it without issues. Solaris will recognize the Intel SDD drive without any

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ext. UPS-backed SATA SSD ZIL?

2010-11-27 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Erik Trimble erik.trim...@oracle.comwrote: On 11/27/2010 6:50 PM, Christopher George wrote: Furthermore, I don't think 1 hour sustained is a very accurate benchmark. Most workloads are bursty in nature. The IOPS degradation is additive, the length of the

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import is this safe to use -f option in this case ?

2010-11-17 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Jim Dunham james.dun...@oracle.com wrote: Tim, On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Jim Dunham james.dun...@oracle.comwrote: sridhar, I have done the following (which is required for my case) Created a zpool (smpool) on a device/LUN from an array (IBM

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Crypto in Oracle Solaris 11 Express

2010-11-17 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Richard Elling richard.ell...@gmail.comwrote: On Nov 16, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Rthoreau r7h0...@att.net wrote: I just think that some people might need that little extra nudge that a few graphs and test would provide. If it happens to also come with a few

Re: [zfs-discuss] Faster than 1G Ether... ESX to ZFS

2010-11-16 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Miles Nordin car...@ivy.net wrote: tc == Tim Cook t...@cook.ms writes: tc Channeling Ethernet will not make it any faster. Each tc individual connection will be limited to 1gbit. iSCSI with tc mpxio may work, nfs will not. well...probably you

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import is this safe to use -f option in this case ?

2010-11-16 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Jim Dunham james.dun...@oracle.comwrote: sridhar, I have done the following (which is required for my case) Created a zpool (smpool) on a device/LUN from an array (IBM 6K) on host1 created a array level snapshot of the device using dscli to another

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Administation Concole

2010-11-13 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Erik Trimble erik.trim...@oracle.comwrote: On 11/13/2010 1:06 PM, Khushil Dep wrote: Think those might have been the thumper screen shots? Take a look at nexentastor On 13 Nov 2010 20:12, Brad Henderson b...@cybernetiksolutions.com wrote: I am new to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Faster than 1G Ether... ESX to ZFS

2010-11-12 Thread Tim Cook
Channeling Ethernet will not make it any faster. Each individual connection will be limited to 1gbit. iSCSI with mpxio may work, nfs will not. On Nov 12, 2010 9:26 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:03:08AM -0500, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: Since combining ZFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] Any limit on pool hierarchy?

2010-11-08 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Peter Taps ptr...@yahoo.com wrote: Folks, From zfs documentation, it appears that a vdev can be built from more vdevs. That is, a raidz vdev can be built across a bunch of mirrored vdevs, and a mirror can be built across a few raidz vdevs. Is my

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