They must be stepping up their attack of these scam letters. I usually
receive one or two of these a year, but, for some odd reason, just in the
last few weeks I've received several.
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Steven Montgomery
At 08:25 PM 10/31/2002, you wrote:
I know there's a lot of hilarity in this thread, but in
Has anyone on the list read GUNS, GERMS AND STEEL by Jared Diamond? It won
the Pulitzer Prize for general nonfiction in 1998. I am about half way
through it, and I'm getting bogged down.
This guy is a scientist and a historian, but he keeps explaining how
domesticated plants were developed
Maybe the scriptures really are just an ancient collection of
Hebrew folk talks. Is that possible?
Well, I've put all my eggs in one basket in the which the scriptures are
true. However, it seems that symbolism plays a major part in the stories
told of the Bible which could make what we think
Chris Grant, a participant on a sister list of Zion-L's, posted a
question he asked of Christopher Hichens who is what I think you might
call in the US a good liberal if that isn't oxymoronic. I've long been
a fan of his, and I think Christ liked Hichens' latest book, Why Orwell
Matters. But it
John:
Has anyone on the list read GUNS, GERMS AND STEEL by Jared Diamond? It won
the Pulitzer Prize for general nonfiction in 1998. I am about half way
through it, and I'm getting bogged down.
This guy is a scientist and a historian, but he keeps explaining how
domesticated plants were
Bro. Ross--
I know you mean well, and I do not speak as the listowner or anyone having authority,
but I am not sure it is appropriate to post the telephone numbers of stake presidents,
bishops, or other church leaders on a public or semi-public forum such as LDS-Doctrine
or ZION, especially if
In the 1P statement on the MX missile, Pres. Kimball says something to the effect
that there was never a time that weapons were made, that they weren't used.
John W. Redelfs wrote:
In every age of mankind's sojourn upon this earth, he has supposed that his
technology is superior to all those
Darn it, I hate it when I keep posting to the wrong list!
Oh well, I won't repeat myself. I was blowing off steam,
anyway. /Sandy/
Sandy and Melinda Rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bro. Ross--
I know you mean well, [snip]
I have.
John W. Redelfs wrote:
Has anyone on the list read GUNS, GERMS AND STEEL by Jared Diamond? It won
the Pulitzer Prize for general nonfiction in 1998. I am about half way
through it, and I'm getting bogged down.
This guy is a scientist and a historian, but he keeps explaining how
John:
It seems to me that an honest scholar would just stick to writing things he
can authenticate using the documentary record, or at least the
archaeological record. In the absence of such records the author isn't
just engaging in unfounded supposition, he is engaged in irresponsible
At 01:56 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote:
You're asking a question Diamond doesn't attempt to answer, and there's no
easy way
to answer this.
I don't believe I suggested that Diamond was supposed to answer my
question. I asked my question of the members of this list. If Diamond
Of course they're true. But what do you mean by true? Scientists use a
different definition, and this is where the apparent contradictions arise.
Science is forever tentative and can only deal with the physical data it has at
hand. It's been very useful and I wouldn't want to do without it, but
Stephen Beecroft wrote:
-Marc-
when it can dip *below* -40oC (which is also, as you probably
know, -40oF).
This is unnecessarily cruel. There was no need to preempt my favorite
smart-alek comment. Meanie.
You mean how F really means Foreignheat?
Stephen
Automobiles don't kill
Scientists go from the assumption that the Bible isn't secular history, and in
that they are right. Apples and oranges.
Zion wrote:
John:
Has anyone on the list read GUNS, GERMS AND STEEL by Jared Diamond? It won
the Pulitzer Prize for general nonfiction in 1998. I am about half way
At 04:13 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Dan R Allen wrote:
Something else to consider on the sheep issue John is that we seem to be
the only group that understands that Adam lived here - I think that most
people assume that Eden was somewhere in what is now the mid-east, if they
think about it at all.
At 04:42 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote:
Of course they're true. But what do you mean by true? Scientists use a
different definition, and this is where the apparent contradictions arise.
Science is forever tentative and can only deal with the physical data it
has at
hand. It's been
Marc A. Schindler wrote:
Our foreign affairs people
are advising Canadian citizens who were born in the Middle East not to travel via the US.
=
Grampa Bill comments:
Well, that's about the best news I've heard lately!
Don't waste the atonement.
Sue Woodbury,
I'm sorry to hear that. It can be very disruptive and discouraging, and I wish you
all the best in finding something you enjoy as soon as possible. And seriously, if
you're a high-tech worker or a professional in various other departments, as a
citizen of a NAFTA country you can get a job anywhere
Jim, care to back *any* of this up with any actual facts, rather than just a
rant?
Jim Cobabe wrote:
John,
Scientists are free to indulge their fancy. Obviously there's little
historic evidence to substantiate supposedly prehistoric events. For
many science devotees, one basic premise is
Well put, Dan. Science has a methodology which is based upon certain assumptions.
Many scientists make the mistake of assuming that that's all there is. But many
non-scientists likewise make the mistake of pooh-poohing a scientific discovery
out of ignorance of how science works, or because on the
Ok, I was just asking. Yet, it was not entirely a throw away remark,
as
after four years at a job that was perfect for myself and family at the
time, I now find myself among the ranks of the unemployed.
O dear! I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope you get...
Paul O
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Now, if we can just stop the flow of terrorists from the US into our country that'll
be even
better.
Grampa Bill wrote:
Marc A. Schindler wrote:
Our foreign affairs people
are advising Canadian citizens who were born in the Middle East not to travel via
the US.
This issue comes up in apologetics all the time, especially with respect to the
evident lack of horses in the New World between the end of the ice age and the
time of Columbus (the Vikings don't count because it's known they didn't bring
horses with them). And the answer, or more properly, I
Double bummer. Well, look after your own emotional health, too. I've learned the
hard way that physical illness can have all kinds of psychological effects which
in turn exacerbate the physical illness. I wish I had known that before I
decided to get sick. :-/
You'll be in our prayers.
Steven
This message is symbolic, therefore it cannot be construed to contain
any particular meaning. Take a stab in the dark, interpret it however
you like. One guess is as good as another.
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Mij Ebaboc
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