Re: [ZION] No Redelfs Citings

2002-11-23 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Here's an update. Thursday evening around 19:30 - 20:00 we finally saw them. They were actually on schedule, but had missed the Edmonton Bypass exit from Highway 2 and ended up in downtown Edmonton, totally and hopelessly lost, until John finally stopped at a gas station and got a city street map.

Re: [ZION] No Redelfs Citing?

2002-11-23 Thread Marc A. Schindler
He has other reasons not to be, er, cited but I'll let him tell you about that when he returns. Gary Smith wrote: Are you saying I'm not a list moderator? Or just that I'm temporarily out of moderation? Why, them's fighting words where I come from. That's it! Salamis at 10 paces! The only

Re: [ZION] No Redelfs citings?

2002-11-23 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Chico's wife certainly succeeded. He had seconds. Gary Smith wrote: Oh! I hope John gets Harpo's autograph while there! He was always my favorite... I hear that Chico Marcs is going to try and curry John's flavor K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www

[ZION] My current plans

2002-11-23 Thread Gary Smith
Now that's a mighty fine reception I'm receiving. When I considered moving to SLC, the people there kind of yawned... At first, we'll be living in Mooresville (southwest), but we really like Plainfield, and so will probably try looking there first. I'm not too interested in the north part of the

Re: [ZION] No Redelfs citing?

2002-11-23 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 17:17 11/22/2002 -0600, Grrryrryyy wrote: Aaaa. So it starts (he said as he wiped his face off with a piece of whole wheat bread). Since it is my list (and John isn't around to regulate the living room), I not only get to start it, but I'll try and finish it, also. Gary pushes a

Re: [ZION] Science dissonance

2002-11-23 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 22:30 11/22/2002 -0500, St Jon wrote: No. It is known as survival of the FIT - a very big difference. It is not just the fittest that survive. It is those who meet or exceed the minimum requirements. The fittest against one threat may not be able to survive the next threat, whereas the

Re: [ZION] Coffee, tea or eternity?

2002-11-23 Thread Jon Spencer
Raw vegetables will cause excessive gas for about two weeks when you start eating them. This is the case for everyone that I know who has started to better their diet. But after two weeks, your gut acclimates to the veggies and you have no more problems. And, of course, you feel a lot better as

Re: [ZION] Science dissonance

2002-11-23 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Jim Cobabe wrote: Adaptation that can be properly characterized as mimicry in plants is indicative of some mechanism or force that cannot be accounted for within the current domain of evolutionary philosophy. This may be your opinion, but it's not the view held by scientists. Why can't it

Re: [ZION] No Redelfs Citings

2002-11-23 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Well, get your butt up here to God's country, and we'll see what we can arrange! Paul Osborne wrote: Marc: I'm just saying that I for one, at least, didn't have the true measure of the man until I met him in person, and am very glad to have had the opportunity). Just think how wonderful

Re: [ZION] Science dissonance

2002-11-23 Thread Paul Osborne
Apparently, I have been telling my body to convert whatever muscle mass is left into fat and to migrate it to the vicinity of my belt. I must be doing this while I am asleep, or perhaps while I stuff much needed carbohydrates into my mouth. That's what happened to me because I'm having an

Re: [ZION] No Redelfs Citings

2002-11-23 Thread Paul Osborne
Marc Well, get your butt up here to God's country, and we'll see what we can arrange! I will someday, hopefully. Do you serve Coca Cola up there? Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only

Re: [ZION] Science Dissonance

2002-11-23 Thread Marc A. Schindler
I'm in the process of trying to rewire my brain, which has difficulty processing spatial information (balance, in simple words; I can't always tell up from down, and don't know when I'm falling in the dark until my head hits something). I bought a nice, slim, beechwood cane, which I call my brown

Re: [ZION] Science dissonance

2002-11-23 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Jim, with all due respect, you're out of your depth. This doesn't say what you think it does. See ya on Eyring-L. Jim Cobabe wrote: http://www.nature.com/nsu/021118/021118-10.html; Whatever the mechanism, this is another example of plants colonizing a harsh environment with a little help

Re: [ZION] No Redelfs Citings

2002-11-23 Thread Marc A. Schindler
He told me how he proposed to Esperanza. It's a pretty funny story. I won't repeat it here, though -- privacy and all that. But maybe we can convince him to share the story with the list once he gets back home. Elmer L. Fairbank wrote: At 09:16 11/23/2002 -0700, M Marc wrote: I must say,

Re: [ZION] No Redelfs Citings

2002-11-23 Thread Marc A. Schindler
If you want, although we're not big pop drinkers (just the occasional ginger ale, or boutique drinks like ginger beer or sarsparilla or that sort of thing). Mountain Dew is caffeine-free here, incidentally (because it's considered a psychoactive/medical ingredient, so our laws say the fact that

Re: [ZION] No Redelfs Citings

2002-11-23 Thread Paul Osborne
If you want, although we're not big pop drinkers (just the occasional ginger ale, or boutique drinks like ginger beer or sarsparilla or that sort of thing). Mountain Dew is caffeine-free here, incidentally (because it's considered a psychoactive/medical ingredient, so our laws say the fact that

RE: [ZION] Canada: Bush is a moron

2002-11-23 Thread Jim Cobabe
One entry found for politician. Main Entry: pol·i·ti·cian Pronunciation: pä-l-'ti-shn Function: noun Date: 1589 1 : a person experienced in the art or science of government; especially : one actively engaged in conducting the business of a government 2 a : a person engaged in party politics

Re: [ZION] Science Dissonance

2002-11-23 Thread Stacy Smith
Well, for some odd reason I took the skin right off my chicken tonight and just threw it on my plate, leaving the meat underneath to eat. Stacy. At 06:41 PM 11/23/2002 -0700, you wrote: I'm in the process of trying to rewire my brain, which has difficulty processing spatial information

[ZION] Fwd: November 2002 Ministry Update

2002-11-23 Thread Stacy Smith
What do you all think of this? Should Protestant Fundamentalists be the ones to tell homosexuals how to live their lives? Stacy. From: SB Ministries [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 23 Nov 02 22:34:23 Eastern Standard Time X-MS-GVD: IGRDTEAMQR Subject: November 2002

Re: [ZION] No Redelfs Citings

2002-11-23 Thread Marc A. Schindler
This evening my wife served -- totally coincidentally -- BLT sandwiches for dinner. We had, of course, made her guess why we called JWR BLT and it was all John could do not to smile at her initial confusion. I wonder if there was something at work subliminally when she decided on this evening's

Re: [ZION] Canada: Bush is a moron

2002-11-23 Thread Marc A. Schindler
OK. And? A civil servant fits none of these definitions. Just admit you misread the article. Jim Cobabe wrote: One entry found for politician. Main Entry: pol·i·ti·cian Pronunciation: pä-l-'ti-shn Function: noun Date: 1589 1 : a person experienced in the art or science of government;

[ZION] Ken Wiwa

2002-11-23 Thread Marc A. Schindler
, and writes a weekly column for the Globe and Mail. This is a typical column, where he writes about his search for the roots of the Ogoni people: http://www.globeandmail.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/PEstory/TGAM/20021123/COWIWA23/Columnists/columnists/columnistsNational_temp/7/7/13/ -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce

RE: [ZION] Canada: Bush is a moron

2002-11-23 Thread Stephen Beecroft
-Jim- Canadian politician calls President Bush a moron. -Marc- It wasn't a politician, it was an aide, Huh? That's like saying, It wasn't an animal, it was a housefly. Of course she is a politician. Do you mean that she is not an elected official? That much is clear, but really doesn't

RE: [ZION] Canada: Bush is a moron

2002-11-23 Thread Stephen Beecroft
-Marc- OK. And? A civil servant fits none of these definitions. You don't think she qualifies as one actively engaged in conducting the business of a government? You don't think she is a person engaged in party politics as a profession? I think she very clearly qualifies under at least those

RE: [ZION] Canada: Bush is a moron

2002-11-23 Thread Jim Cobabe
Granted, Bush probably _is_ a moron. But it's astronomically bad form for a politician in a foreign government to say so in public. Besides, Canada and the US are supposed to be collaborating in the war on terror(TM), and this is just a horrifying breach of international security. What if

Re: [ZION] Canada: Bush is a moron

2002-11-23 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Jim Cobabe wrote: Granted, Bush probably _is_ a moron. But it's astronomically bad form for a politician in a foreign government to say so in public. a. Francie Ducros is not a politician; and b. She did not say it in public. It was in the course of a private conversation with someone, a

RE: [ZION] November 2002 Ministry Update

2002-11-23 Thread Stacy Smith
I hope I haven't violated any charter rules by bringing this up. It's just that the Fundis get me extremely mad! I suppose I haven't yet heard from Fundi so-called Mormon groups yet, but I suppose that's coming next if the internet ever gets the idea that I'm LDS. Stacy. At 04:58 AM

RE: [ZION] Canada: Bush is a moron

2002-11-23 Thread Jim Cobabe
Stephen Beecroft wrote: --- You don't think she qualifies as one actively engaged in conducting the business of a government? You don't think she is a person engaged in party politics as a profession? I think she very clearly qualifies under at least those two definitions. --- Yes, another