On Sun, 2005-10-16 at 12:29 -0700, Dennis Allison wrote:
> What does concern me is the way in which the recommendation to use (at the
> moment) Python 2.3.5 is explained.
>
> I may be willing to accept the risks of using a system which has not yet
> been audited in terms of security, but I want
Andreas,
I understand both the importance of stability and the need for a security
audit at some point. (I do wish we had the funds or I had the time to
help move it forward, but I don't.) I also understand the need for a
consistent framework for reporting and resolving bugs. It is reasonabl
--On 16. Oktober 2005 12:01:00 -0700 Dennis Allison
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If the reason for trying to stick with 2.3.5 is to maintain a stable test
and development environment for Zope 2.8, so be it. It is much much
easier to fix one of the multitude of possible variables in a comple
--On 16. Oktober 2005 11:54:18 -0700 Dennis Allison
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
IMHO it would be wise to track the releases of Python a bit more closely.
Software components choosen for a framework have to be solid and approved.
There is no reason to run after every new python version or
Andreas,
Aside from a "security audit" what problems have been reported using
Python 2.4.X? Those of use who run Python 2.4.X do it becasue we want
access to the language features and performance. If there are stability
issues attributed to that choice, we'd like to know what they are.
On 16 Oct 2005, at 19:54, Dennis Allison wrote:
Why does Zope lag the release of Python by so very long?
Because someone has to spend considerable time to assess impacts on
the Zope 2 security machinery. This has been mentioned on this and
other Zope lists on various occasions.
My unde
Pascal,
Why does Zope lag the release of Python by so very long?
The Python 2.4.X series includes language features and poerformance
enhancements which ought to be available in Zope. For the most part,
Python 2.3.5 is a subset of Python 2.4.X. Compatibility is a language and
implementation des
--On 16. Oktober 2005 11:27:36 -0700 Dennis Allison
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
whrandom is a deprecated python library package which should be replaced
by random. Python 2.3.5 does not produce the deprecation warning but
lacks some of the features of the Python 2.4.X series.
It is alrea
whrandom is a deprecated python library package which should be replaced
by random. Python 2.3.5 does not produce the deprecation warning but
lacks some of the features of the Python 2.4.X series.
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello. On starting and stopping Zope 2.8.2 (u
>> It's a DeprecationWarning.
I see. Thanks.
> In contrast, Python 2.4 is now _required_ for Zope 3 development.
> Zope 3 has a different approach to security, which isn't as sensitive
> to changes in Python.
Good point-- this is why I had compiled 2.8.2 erroneously with Python
2.4.2-- I was
[ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> My mistake, but given that, any sense if I can I safely ignore the
> warning?
It's a DeprecationWarning. All it means is that Python's `whrandom`
module is going to go away in a future release -- it's advising
applications to switch to using the `random` module if they want
> Please also keep in mind that Zope 2.8.2 requires Python 2.3.5. Zope 2.8.2
> is not certified for any Python 2.4.x versions. So using Python 2.4 is
> neither recommended nor supported and any related questions or problems are
> likely to be ignored until 2.4 is an officially supported Python ve
--On 14. Oktober 2005 10:09:39 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello. On starting and stopping Zope 2.8.2 (upgraded from 2.8.1,
compiled with Python 2.4.2, running on Fedora Core 3) I get the
following error. Performance does not seem to be affected.
Resolution?
Quote from my announcement ye
ems are likely to be ignored until 2.4 is an officially
> supported Python version for Zope.
Pascal
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Subject: Re: [Zope] Error on starting and stoppi
On 14 Oct 2005, at 17:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello. On starting and stopping Zope 2.8.2 (upgraded from 2.8.1,
compiled with Python 2.4.2, running on Fedora Core 3) I get the
following error. Performance does not seem to be affected.
Resolution?
# service zopectl start
/opt/python2.4.2/li
Hello. On starting and stopping Zope 2.8.2 (upgraded from 2.8.1,
compiled with Python 2.4.2, running on Fedora Core 3) I get the
following error. Performance does not seem to be affected.
Resolution?
# service zopectl start
/opt/python2.4.2/lib/python2.4/whrandom.py:38: DeprecationWarning:
th
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