Re: [Zope-dev] Refresh DoubleTake :-S

2001-02-13 Thread Shane Hathaway
Chris Withers wrote: Shane Hathaway wrote: But here's the biggest news: the Refresh product, which makes life just a little bit easier for filesystem product developers, now has an auto-refresh feature and the ability to set up dependent products. This means changes to your Python

Re: [Zope-dev] Refresh DoubleTake :-S

2001-02-13 Thread Shane Hathaway
Chris Withers wrote: Shane Hathaway wrote: Any idea why that is? What product are you refreshing? Maybe it's specific to the product. An NDA'd one ;-) Sorry, that's not a lot of help I know, but what sort of things should I be looking for that'd cause refresh to not work

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ThreadSafeCounter

2001-02-13 Thread Shane Hathaway
Steve Alexander wrote: Shane's ExternalMount product is here: http://www.zope.org/Members/hathawsh/ExternalMount However, I couldn't find it from searching on zope.org, and it isn't listed on Shane's zope.org page. Oops, I forgot to get it cataloged. Shane

Re: [Zope-dev] Refresh DoubleTake :-S

2001-02-13 Thread Shane Hathaway
Chris Withers wrote: Shane Hathaway wrote: apparently not. However, I have an idea that might solve it. Thanks for the heads-up! Pleasure :-) (as a workaround we've developed the 'Pound on the Refresh button like a monkey' technique *grinz*) I've added logic to sort the modules

[Zope-dev] Re: More Feedback on ZDebug and/or Refresh

2001-02-14 Thread Shane Hathaway
Chris Withers wrote: Shane Hathaway wrote: http://www.zope.org/Members/hathawsh/ZDebug http://www.zope.org/Members/hathawsh/Refresh Just noticed, since I installed these yesterday, the icon for the Python product I'm developing has changed to a ZCatalog icon. I'm using refresh

Re: [Zope-dev] How to read ZODB with Python script?

2001-02-15 Thread Shane Hathaway
Steve Alexander wrote: Petr Knapek wrote: I would like to know how to connect to running Zope ZODB from a python script. I would like to have possibility to read only objects from ZODB? Is there any possibility how to do it when Zope application server is running and not

Re: [Zope-dev] Problem upgrading to Zope2.3

2001-02-16 Thread Shane Hathaway
"Jay, Dylan" wrote: I did a clean install (on w2k), then copied across my products and Data.fs etc and when I restarted I got the following when I tried to access manage_main on the root folder. Funny thing is this doesn't happen on any other folder. Error type: SystemError Error value:

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.2.4 Dying

2001-02-16 Thread Shane Hathaway
Andre Schubert wrote: Hi, since the last time i had some problems with my zope server. The zope 2.2.4 running under linux dies unexpectly with the following messages. 2001-02-16T01:50:08 ERROR(200) zdaemon zdaemon: Fri Feb 16 02:50:08 2001: Aiieee! 5451 exited with error code: 13

Re: [Zope-dev] The structure of lib/python/*

2001-02-17 Thread Shane Hathaway
Dieter Maurer wrote: Erik Enge writes: I've been reading a lot of Zope code the last couple of years, but still I really don't see any overall structure of lib/python. Is this documented somewhere? I find the names quite self explanatory. Yes, I am a person that believes in self

Re: [Zope-dev] Refresh vs Python Scripts

2001-02-19 Thread Shane Hathaway
Chris Withers wrote: Do these two play nicely together? If you mean to refresh the Python Scripts product, I don't know of a reason why that wouldn't work. I just tried it and it seems to be fine. Shane ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Zope-dev] _getOb or __getattr__?

2001-02-27 Thread Shane Hathaway
Chris Withers wrote: Hi, I need a product with custom attribute getting code and so looked to the BTreeFolder product for inspiration. It implements both __getattr__ and _getOb which appear to do roughly the same thing. What's the difference? _getOb() is part of the ObjectManager

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: [Zope] Zope Good/Bad News Article

2001-02-27 Thread Shane Hathaway
Brian Lloyd wrote: DC should encourage and then force developers to be a bit better about documentation. I have seen product developers put up a new product with the full amount of documentation about it being "here it is... have fun." This certainly does not help all of those people

Re: [Zope-dev] TransWarp preview release (AOP tools only)

2001-03-01 Thread Shane Hathaway
This looks very interesting, Phillip. I haven't downloaded the package yet, but I read the wiki and it finally made sense once I understood the goal (I think): TW lets you set up the class inheritance hierarchy at runtime. In normal OO methodology, you can only extend classes. With TW, you can

Re: [Zope-dev] TransWarp preview release (AOP tools only)

2001-03-02 Thread Shane Hathaway
"Phillip J. Eby" wrote: At 09:37 AM 3/1/01 -0500, Shane Hathaway wrote: What is your vision of integrating AOP into a persistent object system? Would one drop in an object that modifies the class loading mechanism so that the classes come from a TW component rather than Pyth

Re: [Zope-dev] TransWarp preview release (AOP tools only)

2001-03-02 Thread Shane Hathaway
"Phillip J. Eby" wrote: At 03:53 PM 3/2/01 -0500, R. David Murray wrote: I could be wrong, but I didn't read what Phillip wrote as saying he was suggesting TransWarp as a player in the Module Persistence implementation, but rather that he wanted people to see the value of TransWarp first

Re: [Zope-dev] ZDebug conflicts with MailHost?

2001-03-02 Thread Shane Hathaway
Dieter Maurer wrote: Itai Tavor writes: On Zope 2.3.0 and 2.3.1b1, the following method produces an error when ZDebug is installed; If I remove ZDebug, it works fine. A long time ago, there was firm evidence that ZDebug does not play well with "sendmail" (- list archives).

Re: [Zope-dev] TransWarp preview release (AOP tools only)

2001-03-06 Thread Shane Hathaway
"Phillip J. Eby" wrote: At 12:39 PM 3/2/01 -0500, Shane Hathaway wrote: This could be achieved by generating a new Python module for each portal instance, but that would mean sys.modules would have to be pre-loaded with the information about each portal instance and that's not the

Re: [Zope-dev] _getOb or __getattr__?

2001-03-07 Thread Shane Hathaway
Chris Withers wrote: subobjects because acquisition only looks at object attributes. It doesn't know anything about _getOb(). (And it's not a good idea to teach it to use _getOb(); think what it would be like if a Xeon ran like a 386...) I remember the days when... ;-) Seriously

Re: [Zope-dev] TransWarp preview release (AOP tools only)

2001-03-09 Thread Shane Hathaway
"Phillip J. Eby" wrote: At 10:52 AM 3/6/01 -0500, Shane Hathaway wrote: Perhaps... but as I see it, pickling the aspect weaving information into each object makes it harder to vary the aspect weaving after objects have been created. That's not what I said. *Aspect ob

Re: [Zope-dev] Ensuring 'freshness' of dynamic pages (slightly offtopic)

2001-03-11 Thread Shane Hathaway
"Morten W. Petersen" wrote: Is it possible to ensure that pages are always fresh, even if it is specified on the client side that the client should never try to retrieve a 'fresher' page? Send an "expiration" header with a valid date that has already passed. This has always worked for me,

Re: [Zope-dev] Ensuring 'freshness' of dynamic pages (slightly offtopic)

2001-03-11 Thread Shane Hathaway
"Morten W. Petersen" wrote: Is it possible to ensure that pages are always fresh, even if it is specified on the client side that the client should never try to retrieve a 'fresher' page? Send an "expiration" header with a valid date that has already passed. This has always worked for me,

Re: [Zope-dev] FTP interface being worked on?

2001-03-19 Thread Shane Hathaway
Chris McDonough wrote: That's one use, which is important to you. Another is to use Emacs or Dreamweaver on a representation of, for example, DTML methods on a filesystem, which is important to other folks. I think there is really only one issue nobody has been able to sort out: do we want

[Zope-dev] NewLoggingAPI

2001-03-20 Thread Shane Hathaway
I have written a proposal for the improvement of logging. It builds on ideas proposed by Chris and Andreas at Digital Creations. It is designed to augment Zope's enterprise-level capabilities. Please comment! http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/NewLoggingAPI Shane

Re: [Zope-dev] Allowing secure 'import' access in zope folder hosting

2001-04-20 Thread Shane Hathaway
Ivo van der Wijk wrote: I tried to ask this on the standard zope list, but noone seemed to know anything about it. Perhaps you do? We provide zope hosting, both folder based (where people have access to their own folder, mapped to a domain, and no access to the zope server / source / var /

[Zope-dev] wxPython + ZODB = bliss

2001-04-24 Thread Shane Hathaway
Here is a script that lets you browse *everything* in your ZODB through a quick GUI client. I was looking at wxPython the other day and this idea occurred to me. It worked amazingly well. http://www.zope.org/Members/hathawsh/pyTree (BTW you can't hold me responsible if your password slips out

[Zope-dev] Re: BTreeFolder

2001-04-27 Thread Shane Hathaway
Chris Withers wrote: will you be releasing a new version of BTreeFolder that makes use of the new funky BTrees at any stage? We've done some work on it; in fact Jim came up with a bold new idea that makes them inherently faster. Now to find the time. :-) Shane

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: BTreeFolder

2001-04-27 Thread Shane Hathaway
Phillip J. Eby wrote: Now, what *I*'d like to know is what the bold new idea is, since it sounds like it's something even newer than the forward-chained-buckets-plus-conflict-resolution stuff that's already been released. It's simple, really. BTreeFolders play havoc with acquisition because

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: BTreeFolder

2001-04-27 Thread Shane Hathaway
Hannu Krosing wrote: Shane Hathaway wrote: However, purely random IDs would cause all the buckets to be loaded in memory all the time, so Jim's third idea was to have each client increment sequentially from a random ID and move to a new random ID if conflicts ever occur. Can't

Re: [Zope-dev] Heads up -- big changes on trunk

2001-04-30 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Tue, 1 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shane Hathaway wrote: This notice only applies to developers who are following the bleeding edge of Zope, the CVS trunk. It does not apply if you downloaded Zope from a web site. As a broader issue, what's the story with bugfixes in the 2.3

Re: [Zope-dev] Question about import code

2001-05-10 Thread Shane Hathaway
Fred Wilson Horch wrote: The problem that happens on import is a KeyError on line 194 of this bit of code: lines 192-197 of lib/python/ZODB/ExportImport.py ooid=h[:8] if oids: oid=oids[ooid] if type(oid) is

[Zope-dev] Experiments with ORMapping

2001-05-10 Thread Shane Hathaway
Kapil (and others), Although very sketchy and I can't guarantee anything works, my experiments with object-relational mapping in Zope are found at http://www.zope.org/Members/hathawsh/ormapping.tar.gz . If ORMapping.py is in the ZODB directory, you can use the following custom_zodb.py to run

Re: [Zope-dev] Experiments with ORMapping

2001-05-10 Thread Shane Hathaway
Tino Wildenhain wrote: But storage of binary pickles was never the intention anyway. I created a little interface that would allow you to store different classes in different PostgreSQL tables. Before I got to implementing anything, Is this much like the ZPatterns approach? Which part

Re: [Zope-dev] Question about import code

2001-05-10 Thread Shane Hathaway
Fred Wilson Horch wrote: You wrote: Importing multiple objects simultaneously could result in a fair amount of confusion... Can you elaborate? When you import a folder, for example, it imports the folder and all objects in it. If there are some objects in the folder that have

Re: oodb philosophics ;) was: Re: [Zope-dev] Experiments with ORMapping

2001-05-10 Thread Shane Hathaway
Tino Wildenhain wrote: I think the motivation people want an RDBMS storage beneth zodb is because they understand RDBMSes these days are performant, relieable and can quiete easy maintained. The other motivations for an RDBMS are (1) people have existing schemas and want Zope to access the

Re: [Zope-dev] Experiments with ORMapping

2001-05-10 Thread Shane Hathaway
Joachim Werner wrote: You know, it might be possible to get a team together to implement this. How many out there would be interested in pursuing it further? IMHO it's not as much work as it sounds at first. Zope being so object-oriented, you really can replace one of its most

Re: [Zope-dev] xmlrpc: Syntax error at line 34: illegal character in content

2001-05-10 Thread Shane Hathaway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy McKay wrote: Yeah, I am currently base64'ing the data, and it works. Ive seen this in some code but didnt want to say anything for fear of sounding stupid. It doesnt seem right somehow. See, this is the problem. I'm running into crunch-time at the

Re: [Zope-dev] Experiments with ORMapping

2001-05-11 Thread Shane Hathaway
Joachim Werner wrote: Hi! Do you know that there already is a project for OR-Mapping in Zope (actually there are two ...)? Yes, and I think the projects need to look into replacing parts of ZODB rather than adding complexity. ZODB has pieces that can be split apart and

Re: [Zope-dev] Experiments with ORMapping

2001-05-11 Thread Shane Hathaway
Phillip J. Eby wrote: At 11:01 AM 5/11/01 -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote: Joachim Werner wrote: The current design plans of SmartObjects are mainly based on the assumption that we will not be able to change Zope itself. This is not a dogma for us, however. I guess doing OR-mapping

Re: [Zope-dev] Experiments with ORMapping

2001-05-14 Thread Shane Hathaway
Phillip J. Eby wrote: At 05:42 PM 5/11/01 -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote: Phillip J. Eby wrote: I'm not quite clear on how exactly you suggest mapping from RDMBS - ZODB. There's a *significant* (IMHO) impedance mismatch between ZODB's arbitrarily identified variably structured single

Re: oodb philosophics ;) was: Re: [Zope-dev] Experiments with ORMapping

2001-05-14 Thread Shane Hathaway
Joachim Werner wrote: Probably I'm daft because it is Friday night, but AFAIK ZODB and most OODB's store an object only once, keyed by its object id. The rest is just references through that oid, so objects that belong to more than one container can be added to all these containers

Re: [Zope-dev] Experiments with ORMapping

2001-05-14 Thread Shane Hathaway
Chris Withers wrote: Shane Hathaway wrote: I'm telling you there's a lot more you can do with the code that makes snip The next thing to do is to write a fishbowl proposal. This sounds cool but made my head hurt :-S Can you try and bring this back down to the level of us mere

Re: [Zope-dev] Experiments with ORMapping

2001-05-14 Thread Shane Hathaway
Chris Withers wrote: Shane Hathaway wrote: One would define an ObjectMappingSchema whose job it is to store and retrieve objects of a specific type and in a specific location. It would usually grab a database connection object to do its work. When loading, it would perform a query

Re: [Zope-dev] Experiments with ORMapping

2001-05-14 Thread Shane Hathaway
Chris Withers wrote: Shane Hathaway wrote: ZPatterns implements storage logic on the application level. Applications have to be aware of (in fact they have to be centered around) ZPatterns. This alternate approach keeps storage logic independent of application logic. It lets you

[Zope-dev] OR mapping proposal

2001-05-15 Thread Shane Hathaway
http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/ORMappingDB Comments encouraged! Shane ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists -

Re: [Zope-dev] Re-inventing ZPatterns? (was Experiments with ORMapping)

2001-05-15 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Phillip J. Eby wrote: At 04:13 PM 5/14/01 -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote: Regarding performance, this method is actually ideal IMHO. Data is read once, converted to an object, and kept for later connections, just like ZODB. [shrug] Not any different than ZPatterns

Re: [Zope-dev] Experiments with ORMapping

2001-05-15 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Mon, 14 May 2001, ender wrote: i want to thank DC (jim, shane, and paul) for inviting me to come to the new DC offices. i had a great time and learned a bunch... and met the BFDL. It was good to talk with you! i gave a quick overview of the smartobjects design/framework and jim and

Re: [Zope-dev] manage_workspace = index_html

2001-05-15 Thread Shane Hathaway
R. David Murray wrote: Now, if the ZMI were rewritten to be session based, and you used a non-basic-auth based session, you could avoid the problem. Want to volunteer to do the rewrite? grin Actually if you install the CMFCore product and put a CookieCrumbler at the root of your site, you get

Re: [Zope-dev] OR mapping proposal

2001-05-15 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Tue, 15 May 2001, Phillip J. Eby wrote: If we had a standardized manipulation API or idioms (like JavaBeans) for application objects, then having lots of ways to *implement* storage would be a good thing. Different products and offerings could co-exist and compete in the storage

Re: [Zope-dev] OR mapping proposal

2001-05-16 Thread Shane Hathaway
Albert Langer wrote: [Phillip] http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/ORMappingDB Comments encouraged! [Albert] I've added some there. Jim highlighted a project Risk there: Updates to RDBMS data outside of the OR mapping could cause cached data to be inconsistent. I agree!

[Zope-dev] LeakFinder product

2001-05-21 Thread Shane Hathaway
New product: http://www.zope.org/Members/hathawsh/LeakFinder This product assists in locating memory leaks in Zope code. It uses patterns we, at Digital Creations, often employ for fixing memory leaks. It provides a way to get a controlled refcount and the traceback of class instance creation.

[Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-05-30 Thread Shane Hathaway
I have written a proposal. http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/ArmoredCatalog Could it be that we're involved in yet another Battle of Fredericksburg and we're trying to save innocent ZCatalogs from a ZODB conflict? Nawww... ;-) Shane ___

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-05-31 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Toby Dickenson wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2001 10:03:31 -0400 (EDT), Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right now ZCatalog randomly generates ConflictErrors even if there are no conflicts in the data being indexed. It's quite rare, however, and there's machinery

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-05-31 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Erik Enge wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2001, Shane Hathaway wrote: How did you miss the point? That's exactly the point! :-) Oh :) Right now ZCatalog randomly generates ConflictErrors even if there are no conflicts in the data being indexed. This is why I think I've

Re: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released

2001-06-01 Thread Shane Hathaway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My impression is that FileStorage implements a 32-bit id-type-thingy somewhere (look at ZODB docs, I think there is something about this somewhere), which limits it (in addition to the Linux kernel ext2 fs limit), to 2GB. With 7.5 GB, I'd use a more advanced

Re: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released

2001-06-01 Thread Shane Hathaway
marc lindahl wrote: Does anyone have any comments on the reliability of PartitionedFileStorage in this regard as a temporary solution? Is anyone using PartitionedFileStorage in a production environment? AFAIK no. Its functionality has already been superceded. by?

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Thursday 07 June 2001 07:43, Toby Dickenson wrote: Large catalog updates (where every object is reindexed) also generate a lot of conflicts. Is that last bit true? I thought 'Update Catalog' created *new* indexes. There might be a conflict on the root catalog object, but not on the

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Thursday 07 June 2001 11:51, Erik Enge wrote: On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Shane Hathaway wrote: It really doesn't matter how many conflicts there are. Within a single transaction, 1 conflict is as bad as 100. Why? Because in Zope it means the whole request is processed again (which can lead

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Thursday 07 June 2001 12:17, Phillip J. Eby wrote: At 09:34 AM 6/7/01 -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote: One thing I didn't make clear in the proposal is that I'm interested in repurposing ZCatalog as a general ZODB indexing mechanism and essentially moving it down from the application layer

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Shane Hathaway
Phillip J. Eby wrote: That is, in ZPatterns one can specify triggers such as: WHEN OBJECT DELETED, CHANGED CALL someCatalog.manage_uncatalog(self.absolute_url(1)) WHEN OBJECT ADDED, CHANGED CALL someCatalog.manage_catalog(self,self.absolute_url(1)) After I read this again I realized what

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Phillip J. Eby wrote: I was thinking that certain types of objects would be committed by the transaction manager before all others. In this case, the catalog (or a special object in the catalog) would be committed first. It would resolve all conflicts in the contained

Re: [Zope-dev] Non-undoable storage

2001-06-12 Thread Shane Hathaway
Morten W. Petersen wrote: during testing of a mail product I've discovered that the Data.fs file may bloat considerably after storing 50 messages. Packing the database will reduce the Data.fs file to 20 MB (from 40 MB). Another thing is that storing 50 messages takes a *long time* on a

Re: [Zope-dev] Non-undoable storage

2001-06-12 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Morten W. Petersen wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Shane Hathaway wrote: Did you catalog each message? What version of Zope? Yes, every message was cataloged. Zope version 2.3.2 3) Manually zap the caches periodically, which is a capability of Zope 2.4.x. Okay

Re: [Zope-dev] security question

2001-06-16 Thread Shane Hathaway
Tim McLaughlin wrote: root has a role called 'User' with 'View' permissions (anonymous is disabled) and acl_users has a user called joe. joe can access objects in folder2 according to the permissions set on the root by using acquisition like this: http://server/folder1/folder2/object1 joe

Re: [Zope-dev] what transaction does get_transaction().commit() really commit?

2001-06-18 Thread Shane Hathaway
Jephte Clain wrote: the question is: what transaction is commited with get_transaction().commit() ? It is only the one associated with the connection, or also the transaction in which is the caller? I mean, if my method is called from within Zope, is the transaction of the caller commited?

[Zope-dev] Proposed proposals: password encryption, ZODB RAM

2001-06-18 Thread Shane Hathaway
Here are a couple of ideas I'd like to toss out. Proposals can take a lot of time to write and it might be easier this way to flesh out the details. 1) Optional password encryption. Right now passwords are stored as clear text. What's interesting is that Zope can already authenticate

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed proposals: password encryption, ZODB RAM

2001-06-18 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Monday 18 June 2001 15:33, Martijn Pieters wrote: On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 12:28:54PM -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote: 1) Optional password encryption. Right now passwords are stored as clear text. What's interesting is that Zope can already authenticate against SHA encrypted passwords

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed proposals: password encryption, ZODB RAM

2001-06-19 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Toby Dickenson wrote: However, I dont think encrypting user passwords is enough. Data.fs may contain plaintext passwords for relational databases, and in many cases it contains arbitrary confidential information. True. The RDBMS passwords are probably more sensitive

[Zope-dev] Re: Problems with Transparent Folder and Zope 2.3.3

2001-06-21 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Joachim Werner wrote: Transparent Folders are used very often at iuveno. And we would like to do so in the future because they really provide an easy way to structure objects in folders. But with Zope 2.3.3 we get errors like that when we start an instance that uses

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Problems with Transparent Folder and Zope 2.3.3

2001-06-21 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Joachim Werner wrote: Tomorrow I hope to release a version of TransparentFolders that works around the problem, so you can wait for that instead if you like. Cool! Could you maybe put the patch that currently is applied in OFS/__init.py__ into a Hotfix? This would

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-21 Thread Shane Hathaway
Jim Penny wrote: DC and FSF somehow have to come to some understandings of the following questions. Here is my own view (not DC's offical word!) Can a GPL (unmodified) component be distributed for Zope (at all)? I think the message by Bradley Kuhn is a little misleading. If you are the

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-22 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Friday 22 June 2001 04:24, Erik Enge wrote: On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Shane Hathaway wrote: Now, if the ZPL were GPL compatible, the GPL would be in full effect for products. Digital Creations would automatically have the rights to redistribute derivatives of ZWiki. I believe DC would even

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Problems with Transparent Folder and Zope 2.3.3

2001-06-22 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Friday 22 June 2001 06:55, Eric Roby wrote: I'm glad to know the product is being used. I don't think it will be in the core distribution since it causes a performance hit. I use Transparent Folders HEAVILY in my site designs. There are some Gotchas' that I have learned to deal with

[Zope-dev] Transparent folders, CookieCrumbler, ZDebug

2001-06-22 Thread Shane Hathaway
A new release of Transparent folders is ready. The only real difference is compatibility with Zope 2.3.3. http://www.zope.org/Members/hathawsh/TransparentFolders CookieCrumbler has been re-released independently of CMF. Thanks to living in the CMF for a while, the security hole has been

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Problems with Transparent Folder and Zope 2.3.3

2001-06-22 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Friday 22 June 2001 10:59, Chris Withers wrote: Shane Hathaway wrote: If we're willing to start changing things at the C level, however, there are more options. Well, given how extremely useful skins seem as a concept (rather than just in their CMF context), along with Transparent

[Zope-dev] Re: ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-22 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Friday 22 June 2001 12:33, Simon Michael wrote: Thanks for a most illuminating thread. Slight clarification to a comment of yours Shane - Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GPL code together. ZWiki is just in a strange position because the GPL is not actually in effect. I'm

Re: [Zope-dev] Speed up the learning curve

2001-06-27 Thread Shane Hathaway
Andy McKay wrote: It depends on your experience. In your opinion you find it easier (now I can write a Zope product in my sleep I agree). Most Zope users however, in my experience, try ZClasses first. When I came to Zope, within a week I was getting ready to write a Python product. (And I

Re: [Zope-dev] experiments bugs with data.fs 2GB

2001-07-03 Thread Shane Hathaway
marc lindahl wrote: From: Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Trying the same thing with 2.4.0b2 and reporting the results Yikes... I need CMF! So far it's not recommended with 2.4! Are there plans to fix this in the 2.3 branch? Actually, it was only not recommended that you use

Re: [Zope-dev] Bug in TransparentFolders ???

2001-07-05 Thread Shane Hathaway
Andre Schubert wrote: after searching the soures if found a way the point of disaster. in TransparentFolderPatch i changed the line: if tpids and not self._v_no_transparent and name[:3] != '_p_' : to: if tpids and not self._v_no_transparent and name[:3] != '_p_' and name[-11:] !=

[Zope-dev] ZServerSSL proposal

2001-07-06 Thread Shane Hathaway
Zopistas, Please support or denounce this proposal. Integrated HTTPS support in Zope would be really nice IMHO. http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/ZServerSSLIntegration Shane ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Zope-dev] Vulnerability: attacking can get file list and dir ectory

2001-09-24 Thread Shane Hathaway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a high-traffic site, wouldn't the log get really big, really quickly with tracebacks? It is also nice to have the tracebacks in the browser window for debugging... But the log won't grow more than Z2.log. Yes, it is nice to have the tracebacks in the browser

Re: [Zope-dev] Custom Login

2001-09-24 Thread Shane Hathaway
Ivan Raikov wrote: Recently, I had to replace ZPublisher's default authentication scheme, as part of a product I'm working on. I am aware of the existence of LoginManager, exUserFolder, etc., but in this case I needed to have a custom login screen at root level, i.e. completely get

Re: [Zope-dev] Vulnerability: attacking can get file list and dir ectory

2001-09-24 Thread Shane Hathaway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I think this really should be an integration issue instead of a Zope issue: use a front-end proxy server (i.e. Squid) and set up ACLs to prevent this... This hasn't been fixed because it's not well understood. Javascript can POST an invisible form,

[Zope-dev] Password encryption--calling on the community

2001-09-10 Thread Shane Hathaway
Following the Zope 2.5 plan, I have just added to CVS the capability for user passwords to be encrypted in the standard user folder. Please try it out. If it works correctly there should be no outwardly visible differences. I'm also soliciting the assistance of developers and users of

[Zope-dev] Password encryption--calling on the community

2001-09-10 Thread Shane Hathaway
Following the Zope 2.5 plan, I have just added to CVS the capability for user passwords to be encrypted in the standard user folder. Please try it out. If it works correctly there should be no outwardly visible differences. I'm also soliciting the assistance of developers and users of custom

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.4.1 bugfix in RestrictedPython/__init__.py

2001-09-14 Thread Shane Hathaway
Romain Slootmaekers wrote: Yo dudes, VSEval in Documenttemplate tries to set Eval No problem but RestictedPython has no Eval attribute by default so you need to import it add this line to RestrictedPython/__init__.py import Eval Actually, VSEval currently does *not* apply restrictions.

Re: [Zope-dev] Naive API question(s)

2001-09-17 Thread Shane Hathaway
Holger Blasum wrote: Dear *, naively I volunteered for a talk on zope in autumn to a (small) CS student audience. However, I must confess that do not understand the basics about the API: What is the most general and state-of-the-art way (including necessary imports from the zope

[Zope-dev] Re: Addressing client-side trojan problem

2001-09-25 Thread Shane Hathaway
Ken Manheimer wrote: Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This hasn't been fixed because it's not well understood. Javascript can POST an invisible form, AFAIK. The problem occurs on the browsers of users who are *already authenticated*. It has nothing to do with Zope or any server

Re: [Zope-dev] Acquisition, __getattr__ and making a Proxy/Symlink class

2001-09-26 Thread Shane Hathaway
Lupus Yonderboy wrote: I have tried hooking __getattr__ and have a hard time avoiding recursion; I have taken a look at the ever-productive Shane Hathaway's TransparentFolder product as well but I think I am let down by my lack of understanding of the particulars of acquisition. Here are

Re: [Zope-dev] Open Letters and Zope 3

2001-12-04 Thread Shane Hathaway
Andy Dawkins wrote: Zope 3X requires Python 2.2b2. Are you sure you mean Python2.2b2? I tried this but seem to get problems with the pyexpat module. Would a different version do, Or have you solved any problems with the pyexpat module in 2.2.b2? Make sure you have expat, including

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Python 2.1.2 does not fix the signal 11 crashing problem !!!!!!!!!!!

2002-01-21 Thread Shane Hathaway
Anthony Baxter wrote: Behrens Matt - Grand Rapids wrote Anthony Baxter wrote: In that case, how about cutting a version which is 2.4.3 + the compiler fixes? Crashes are bad, and it would be very nice to Make Them Go Away. :) You already have that. Check out the Zope-2_4-branch from CVS (see

Re: [Zope-dev] Dependency problem with SimpleItem

2002-02-06 Thread Shane Hathaway
Romain Slootmaekers wrote: Yo dudes, I have problems with dependencies on Zope 2.4.3: If I try to import OFS.SimpleItem directly, I get following problem. (snip) ImportError: cannot import name Persistent If you do 'import Zope' first, you don't have this problem. But I can't do that

Re: [Zope-dev] Benchmarks: DTML vs. ZPT?

2002-02-08 Thread Shane Hathaway
seb bacon wrote: Well, I just ran a very naive test and it suggests that zpt may be about twice as slow as dtml. I made a DTML Method, and a ZPT, identical to each other, containing only HTML: html Test /html Then I ran the ab benchmarking tool against each method, thus:

Re: [Zope-dev] copy paste 'leakage'

2002-02-08 Thread Shane Hathaway
Martijn Faassen wrote: Another data point. Copy paste of ParsedXML documents is normal and fast when the object is in a folder not surrounded by too many other folders (or objects in general, not sure yet). If I create a bunch of very large folders sitting next to the ParsedXML document

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.6 planning - call for contributors!

2002-03-02 Thread Shane Hathaway
Christian Theune wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 07:53:35AM -0500, Paul Everitt wrote: A gentle reminder on some of the posts in this thread. Please don't respond with I'd really like some good idea. Respond with I'm willing to do the work for some good idea. That's part of the point with

Re: SV: [Zope-dev] Small Alert - Temp Solution - more...

2002-03-06 Thread Shane Hathaway
Jean-Paul Smets wrote: I could find out that certain cookie names work, some others do not Works __ac_ __ac_ra __ac_rak1 __ac_nex1 __ac_erp5 Does not work __ac __ac_rack1 __ac_rack12 Really strange. What browser are you using? Strange things like this happen for me

Re: SV: SV: [Zope-dev] Small Alert - Temp Solution - more...

2002-03-07 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Magnus Heino wrote: What browser are you using? Strange things like this happen for me occasionally after a Mozilla upgrade, but I just delete the cookies for the site and everything goes back to normal. I figure someone at Netscape is just fiddling with the cookie

Re: [Zope-dev] more on the segfault saga

2002-03-13 Thread Shane Hathaway
Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote: Well, I have the energy, I just don't know where to start. But it's beginning to look like I'll just have to roll up my sleeves and dive in C code to hunt this beast down. And to think that I'd chosen Python as my official programming language to avoid just

Re: [Zope-dev] A thought for 2.6 about various leaks and memory problems

2002-03-19 Thread Shane Hathaway
Anthony Baxter wrote: Adrian Hungate wrote moved to a different thread or earlier, before the fork, so that we could simply kill senile threads without killing the entire shooting match? unfortunately apache does this with seperate processes, not threads. memory corruption and leaks

Re: [Zope-dev] OpenSSH configuration between ZEO clients storage server

2002-03-25 Thread Shane Hathaway
Eric Roby wrote: Anyone had any experience trying to secure the transactions between ZEO clients and a storage server??? Our shop is already using OpenSSH, I have read some introductory information about OpenSSH. It is just not clear to me the level of effort required to implement this or

Re: [Zope-dev] OpenSSH configuration between ZEO clients storage server

2002-03-26 Thread Shane Hathaway
Toby Dickenson wrote: On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 12:19:11 -0500, Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are some disadvantages: anybody who has an account on either zeoclient or zeostorage has full read/write access to the database. A VPN would also work, but you'd still have the local

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