Re: [Zope] problem with ZUBB / no topic set

2001-01-31 Thread J. Atwood

Hey Oliver,

I have not yet tested ZUBB 0.6 on 2.3 (will try soon) but I think I 
have seen this before. Did you remember to give the ZTopic a title 
when you created it?

J


At 1:05 PM +0100 1/31/01, Oliver Frommel wrote:
Hello,

after installing ZUBB (ZDiscussions 0.6. right?) everything works fine with
the single exception that the topic of no message gets set. That means,
after posting, all messages show "(no subject)".
The message preview HTML source still shows the correct value in the hidden
input form tag named "title". Could the problem be a clash between the "title"
form entry and the title of another Zope object?
I am using ZDiscussions-0.6 and Zope 2.3.0.

thanks
--Oliver



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[Zope] Help: Photo Jpeg Support Problems

2001-01-23 Thread J. Atwood

I have been playing around with Drew's photo product and it works 
great with GIFs but when I try to upload a JPEG into it I get the 
following

Error Type: IOError
Error Value: decoder jpeg not available

Traceback (innermost last):
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 222, in 
publish_module
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in 
zpublisher_exception_hook
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in publish
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply
 (Object: manage_addPhoto)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in 
call_object
 (Object: manage_addPhoto)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/Photo/Photo.py, line 132, 
in manage_addPhoto
 (Object: Traversable)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/Image.py, line 276, in manage_upload
 (Object: BZ_li_13.jpg)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/Photo/Photo.py, line 290, 
in update_data
 (Object: BZ_li_13.jpg)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/Photo/Photo.py, line 319, 
in _generateDisplays
 (Object: BZ_li_13.jpg)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/Photo/Photo.py, line 329, 
in _generateDisplay
 (Object: BZ_li_13.jpg)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/Photo/Photo.py, line 370, in resize
 (Object: BZ_li_13.jpg)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python1.5/PIL/Image.py, line 634, in resize
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python1.5/PIL/ImageFile.py, line 133, in load
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python1.5/PIL/Image.py, line 237, in _getdecoder
IOError: (see above)

I have tried and tried again to recompile jpeg, include the path.. 
whatever! I am using Zope 2.2.4 , on RH 6.2

Thanks,
J

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Re: [Zope] Help: Photo Jpeg Support Problems

2001-01-23 Thread J. Atwood

The PIL module is insalled (this I know) I just think I need to do a 
little more work with the JPEG support. It says it should be part of 
the installation but never was.. so I downloaded it and included it 
in the configure path. Probably just missed something.

J

At 9:12 PM -0500 1/23/01, Ausum wrote:
It doesn't happen to me. I'm running Zope 2.2.5 at Win98. Python 1.5.2
and PIL module are installed at the "Python" directory that the Python's
binary distribution uses as default.

Maybe I'm wrong but it looks like you didn't install the PIL module.


Ausum


"J. Atwood" wrote:

  I have been playing around with Drew's photo product and it works
  great with GIFs but when I try to upload a JPEG into it I get the
  following

  Error Type: IOError
  Error Value: decoder jpeg not available

  Traceback (innermost last):
 File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 222, in
  publish_module
 File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 
187, in publish
 File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in
  zpublisher_exception_hook
 File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 
171, in publish
 File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply
   (Object: manage_addPhoto)
 File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in
  call_object
   (Object: manage_addPhoto)
 File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/Photo/Photo.py, line 132,
  in manage_addPhoto
   (Object: Traversable)
 File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/Image.py, line 276, in manage_upload
   (Object: BZ_li_13.jpg)
 File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/Photo/Photo.py, line 290,
  in update_data
   (Object: BZ_li_13.jpg)
 File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/Photo/Photo.py, line 319,
  in _generateDisplays
   (Object: BZ_li_13.jpg)
 File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/Photo/Photo.py, line 329,
  in _generateDisplay
   (Object: BZ_li_13.jpg)
 File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/Photo/Photo.py, line 
370, in resize
   (Object: BZ_li_13.jpg)
 File /usr/local/zope/lib/python1.5/PIL/Image.py, line 634, in resize
 File /usr/local/zope/lib/python1.5/PIL/ImageFile.py, line 133, in load
 File /usr/local/zope/lib/python1.5/PIL/Image.py, line 237, in _getdecoder
  IOError: (see above)

  I have tried and tried again to recompile jpeg, include the path..
  whatever! I am using Zope 2.2.4 , on RH 6.2

  Thanks,
  J

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Re: [Zope] Where to host Zope apps?

2001-01-22 Thread J. Atwood

One of the things to consider is that hosting Zope itself is very 
easy. Take a look at a company like RackSpace.com where you can get a 
dedicated box for like $255 a month (600 MHZ, 20 GB Drive, 128 MB of 
RAM, RH Linux 7.0). They watch the hardware and you keep Zope up 
(which is not hard at all).

That configuration will also handle a LOT of traffic. Upgrade as you need to.

J

At 1:41 PM -0500 1/22/01, Ausum wrote:
The first time I wanted to host at an enterprise level it wasn't very
hard. I just went for HighWay becasue it was said at that time, that it
was one of the finest hosting providers. After a short term it was
bought by Verio and now Verio itself it's owned by the largest japanese
telco. (For every potencial hosting customer -specially for one who
doesn't live at the provider's country- it is quite important to get to
know who the hosting company is, and how big their assets are.)

I don't know much about the companies currently offering Zope, but I
would like to suggest that Digital Creations cobrands all of them who
want it to, after an evaluation process by its own staff.

I can foresee a big Zope's spreading when DC decides to get involved
with its derived hosting providers community at a cobranding level.


Regards,


Ausum

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Re: [Zope] ZPoPyDA UPDATE

2001-01-22 Thread J. Atwood

You don't have to downgrade. Just go into the code and change the 
version it it looking for. Search the list archives b/c I have read 
something about it. I think it is under the "How To Install"

Cheers,
J

At 12:30 PM -0800 1/22/01, J B Bell wrote:
I got the brilliant idea of running zope with -D.  Here's what I got:

# ./start -D
--
2001-01-22T20:19:58 ERROR(200) Zope Couldn't import Products.ZPoPyDA
Traceback (innermost last):
   File /usr/local/zope/2.2.5/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 
397, in import_products
 (Object: string)
   File 
/usr/local/zope/2.2.5/lib/python/Products/ZPoPyDA/__init__.py, line 
32, in ?
   File /usr/local/zope/2.2.5/lib/python/Products/ZPoPyDA/DA.py, line 35, in ?
   File /usr/local/zope/2.2.5/lib/python/Products/ZPoPyDA/PoPy_db.py, 
line 37, in ?
The PoPy module is old: Update your version of PoPy

Checking the code in PoPy_db.py, it's looking for exactly and only version
1.4.  1.4.1, therefore, is 'incompatible'.  Of course, grumble, before I did
this, I updated to v. 2.0 of PoPy  must now downgrade. 

--JB

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Re: [Zope] Source to www.zope.org

2001-01-21 Thread J. Atwood

Also check out the About Zope.org link on the home page.

http://www.zope.org/About

There is a lot of good stuff there!

J

At 4:39 PM -0800 1/21/01, Gerald Gutierrez wrote:
Is the source code to www.zope.org available somewhere?

It would certainly be an interesting example of how to build a large 
web site with Zope.


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Re: [Zope] ZOPE and PHP - possible or not ?

2001-01-21 Thread J. Atwood

A lot came up with you just put 'PHP' in the Zope.org search box. 
Here are the best.

http://www.zope.org/Members/Mamey/PHP

http://www.zope.org/Members/Ioan/PHPObject

J



At 7:18 PM +0100 1/21/01, Greg Nowak wrote:
Hi!

How do I combine the PHP code with ZOPE ?

How to tell Apache to parse the PHP code ?
Where do I find info ?

Best regards,
Greg



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[Zope] Building ZPatterns Extension help

2001-01-19 Thread J. Atwood

The instructions in the README.txt and on zope.org are a little vague..

How, indeed, do I " build this extension using the included Setup 
file in the ZPatterns directory" I can see the Setup file but that is 
about it.

I would be more than happy to write up some documentation (on 
Zope.org) if someone sends me the answer.

Thanks,
J

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[Zope] HELP: ZPatterns Installation on Linux

2001-01-19 Thread J. Atwood

The instructions in the README.txt and on zope.org are a little vague..

How, indeed, do I " build this extension using the included Setup 
file in the ZPatterns directory" I can see the Setup file but that is 
about it.

I would be more than happy to write up some documentation (on 
Zope.org) if someone sends me the answer.

RH Linux 6.2, Zope 2.2.2, Latest ZPatterns

Thanks,
J

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RE: [Zope] HELP: ZPatterns Installation on Linux

2001-01-19 Thread J. Atwood

After reading around more (a lot more) I got to.

  cp /usr/lib/python1.5/config/Makefile.pre.in .
  make -f Makefile.pre.in boot
  make

At which point I get:

make
gcc -fPIC  -I../../ZODB -I../../../Components/ExtensionClass -g -O2 
-I/usr/include/python1.5 -I/usr/include/python1.5 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -c 
./DynPersist.c
In file included from ./DynPersist.c:1:
../../ZODB/cPersistence.h:89: ExtensionClass.h: No such file or directory
make: *** [DynPersist.o] Error 1

I took a look and there is no ExtensionsClass. Any further help?

Thanks,
J


At 5:07 PM -0600 1/19/01, Steve Drees wrote:
copy the Setup.in to the ZPatterns directory

make -f Setup.in

I think that's how I built it.
It's been awhile

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J.
  Atwood
  Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 4:12 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Zope] HELP: ZPatterns Installation on Linux


  The instructions in the README.txt and on zope.org are a little vague..

  How, indeed, do I " build this extension using the included Setup
  file in the ZPatterns directory" I can see the Setup file but that is
  about it.

  I would be more than happy to write up some documentation (on
  Zope.org) if someone sends me the answer.

  RH Linux 6.2, Zope 2.2.2, Latest ZPatterns

  Thanks,
  J

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[Zope] SOLVED: ZPatterns Installation on Linux

2001-01-19 Thread J. Atwood

And as promised... a new How-To

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/zpatterns_install/

Please let me know if there is anything wrong with it.

Thanks,
J

At 5:07 PM -0600 1/19/01, Steve Drees wrote:
copy the Setup.in to the ZPatterns directory

make -f Setup.in

I think that's how I built it.
It's been awhile

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J.
  Atwood
  Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 4:12 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Zope] HELP: ZPatterns Installation on Linux


  The instructions in the README.txt and on zope.org are a little vague..

  How, indeed, do I " build this extension using the included Setup
  file in the ZPatterns directory" I can see the Setup file but that is
  about it.

  I would be more than happy to write up some documentation (on
  Zope.org) if someone sends me the answer.

  RH Linux 6.2, Zope 2.2.2, Latest ZPatterns

  Thanks,
  J

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Re: [Zope] High Performance Zope

2001-01-16 Thread J. Atwood

200-300 a day can be handled by a Pentium 60 and 32 MBs of RAM on a Linux box.

That is not busy at all. 2,000,000 - 3,000,000 hits a day could be 
done by a much beefier box but at some point ZEO will be your friend.

J

At 3:21 PM -0500 1/16/01, Vincent Stoessel wrote:
Hello All,
How does Zope respond under heavy load? can Zserver handle
serving out 200-300 zope pages per day on a busy website?
Would it be better to use pcgi to plug it into apache?
Thanks in advance.
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[Zope] Photo Jpeg Support Problems

2001-01-15 Thread J. Atwood

I have been playing around with Drew's photo product and it works 
great with GIFs but when I try to upload a JPEG into it I get the 
following

Error Type: IOError
Error Value: decoder jpeg not available

Traceback (innermost last):
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 222, in 
publish_module
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in 
zpublisher_exception_hook
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in publish
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply
 (Object: manage_addPhoto)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in 
call_object
 (Object: manage_addPhoto)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/Photo/Photo.py, line 132, 
in manage_addPhoto
 (Object: Traversable)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/Image.py, line 276, in manage_upload
 (Object: BZ_li_13.jpg)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/Photo/Photo.py, line 290, 
in update_data
 (Object: BZ_li_13.jpg)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/Photo/Photo.py, line 319, 
in _generateDisplays
 (Object: BZ_li_13.jpg)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/Photo/Photo.py, line 329, 
in _generateDisplay
 (Object: BZ_li_13.jpg)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/Photo/Photo.py, line 370, in resize
 (Object: BZ_li_13.jpg)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python1.5/PIL/Image.py, line 634, in resize
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python1.5/PIL/ImageFile.py, line 133, in load
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python1.5/PIL/Image.py, line 237, in _getdecoder
IOError: (see above)

I have tried and tried again to recompile jpeg, include the path.. 
whatever! I am using Zope 2.2.4 , on RH 6.2

Thanks,
J

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[Zope] FTP Woes and no answer

2001-01-12 Thread J. Atwood

I have FTP'd into Zope before. No problems but all of a sudden it 
seems like neither I nor the people I am working with can FTP in with 
either a manager or superuser account. I have tried to change the 
port and all sorts of other things but on a few different 
installations with different clients from different machines and OSes 
it just does list any of the files in the directory.

Has anyone experienced this? Know a work around?

J

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Re: [Zope] Zope vs. java solutions : looking forward ?

2001-01-11 Thread J. Atwood

Just some quick thoughts. (I have worked with both)

- This is not about Java vrs Python since that is a different 
discussion. This should be about Zope vrs Enhydra.
- Zope has a great future which can be shown by Digital Creations 
success, Zope involvement and activity
- In terms of getting a site up and running there is no question that 
you can get a Zope site running up faster than a Servlet based site

You might want to take a look at the semi-old but still very 
interesting Tomcat vrs Zope benchmarks 
http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/benchmarks.html  (Tomcat is 
the servlet engine behind Enhydra).

Cheers,
J



At 9:57 AM +0100 1/11/01, Henk Schets wrote:
Hi,

We are planning a major update of our site (i.e. building a new one).  At
the moment our site is based on php,cgi, MySql and Apache on Linux.
However, for the new site, we are considering other 'platforms' like Zope or
Enhydra.  I find Zope an elegant solution for our new site because we will
be relying heavily on non-technical people contributing articles for
publication.  But the problem is this : the development will be made by a
small commercial firm (the guys who work there are friends) and they are
biased towards a java solution because they think this will be a standard
for the future.  They do not want to invest in learning Zope en end up in
not being able to sell their acquired knowledge in this.  I should note
that, at the moment, they have no experience in Java nor Python, so they
will have to learn one or the other.
The problem I will be facing is the maintenance of the site and adding new
features.
What do you guys think ?  Does Zope have a future with respect to e.g.
Enhydra (this is Python versus Java for internet applications)?   Does
someone have experience with both and can you comment on the learning curve
?


Thanks,

Henk


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Re: [Zope] worldpilot --almost?!

2001-01-11 Thread J. Atwood

Had the same problem. Most likely it is that the people that are 
sending the messages are using MTF (Microsoft Text Format, or MRTF) 
which is their variation on RTF that WorldPilot cannot read. Thanks 
Bill! :)

J

At 12:28 PM -0500 1/11/01, tom wrote:
hi,

I have worldpilot almost working on a latest version of zope on NT. 
The only problem is that when reading a message I don't get the text 
of the message, everything else is file.

The docs mention something about setting the default domain, how do I do that?


thanks,

tom


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[Zope] PoPy Problems

2001-01-05 Thread J. Atwood

Linux 6.2, Zope 2.2.4, PostgreSQL 7.0.3, PoPy 1.4.1, ZPoPyDA 0.7.0

I installed the PoPy module and at the Python command line can 
import PoPy' with no problems. I then untarred the ZPoPyDA and 
restarted Zope at which point I get (in the Zope management screen).

ZPoPyDA Import Traceback

Traceback (innermost last):
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 397, in 
import_products
 product=__import__(pname, global_dict, global_dict, silly)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/ZPoPyDA/__init__.py, line 32, in ?
 import sys, os, Globals, DA
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/ZPoPyDA/DA.py, line 35, in ?
 from PoPy_db import DB
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/ZPoPyDA/PoPy_db.py, line 35, in ?
 raise The PoPy module is not installed
The PoPy module is not installed

There is really no more instructions on the site, in the INSTALL or README.

If have installed and worked with ZPygreSQL before but was under the 
impression that it did not work with the newer versions of Zope and 
Postgresql.

Thanks,
J

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Re: [Zope] rss

2000-12-13 Thread J. Atwood

SiteSummary will actually grab headlines. Just not timed.

Cheers,
J

At 2:06 PM -0800 12/13/2000, Andy McKay wrote:
Ok, ive seen lots of products and ways of creating RSS files, but I havent
been able to spot one that reads other peoples (eg ZNN, Slashdot). Is there
such a product?
--
   Andy McKay, Developer.
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Re: [Zope] ZDiscussions compatible to Zope-2.2.4??

2000-12-11 Thread J. Atwood

Try ZUBB 0.6.0

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB

I have not tried it on 2.2.4 but it works fine on 2.2.2

J

At 11:00 AM +0100 12/11/2000, Kaeidinejad, Shahram wrote:
Hi,

is ZDiscussions compatible to Zope-2.2.4?
I tried to install ZDiscussions-0.2.0 but i got this error:

Error Type: SystemError
Error Value: Failed to import class _ZClass_for_ZDTopic from module
Products.ZDBase

Traceback (innermost last):
   File /dgn-devel01/opt/Zope-2.2.4/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
222, in publish_module
   File /dgn-devel01/opt/Zope-2.2.4/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
187, in publish
   File /dgn-devel01/opt/Zope-2.2.4/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in
zpublisher_exception_hook
 (Object: Traversable)
   File /dgn-devel01/opt/Zope-2.2.4/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
171, in publish
   File /dgn-devel01/opt/Zope-2.2.4/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line
160, in mapply
 (Object: manage_importObject)
   File /dgn-devel01/opt/Zope-2.2.4/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
112, in call_object
 (Object: manage_importObject)
   File /dgn-devel01/opt/Zope-2.2.4/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py, line
535, in manage_importObject
 (Object: Traversable)
   File /dgn-devel01/opt/Zope-2.2.4/lib/python/ZODB/ExportImport.py, line
208, in importFile
SystemError: (see above)



bye

Shahram


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[Zope] Why I Love Zope: Success Stories (BEWARE: sappy stuff inside)

2000-12-08 Thread J. Atwood

I run at least 7 or 8 Zope sites of varying shapes and sizes for 
about a year now and everyone once in awhile I just have to take a 
moment and reflect upon how much easier Zope has made my "web" life. 
There are some of my stories (que the music)


- Recently someone took notice of a FAQ on one of my sites (thank you 
KnowledgeKit) and was trying to figure out how I kept it updated and 
allowed for user submissions. As I told them about the process 
(submit, email, edit, approve, go live and added to "new FAQs") I 
just realized how cool the system really is and how much easier it 
had all been to do in Zope. The kicker was when I mentioned I had the 
same system for the links (Thank you SimpleURL). They were stunned, 
to say the least. Go Zope.

- My Brother recently had a child and not only was I able to set my 
new niece up with a area on the family site but gave my Father a 
username and password and about five minutes of instructions on how 
to get images into the photo album (thank you ZPhotoAlbum). I went to 
bed while he scanned away and published a series of pictures all by 
himself. Not only was he totally impressed with the system but in the 
content management features. Of course a link went out to all the 
family to come and take a look. Zope can now add a new tag line 
"Father Friendly."

- I have been slowly getting Zope into more and more projects at 
work. We are now at about 5 Zope sites. This really shouldn't seem 
that amazing except for the fact that I in order to build the very 
first site in Zope I had to battle for about two weeks with 
arguments, case studies and ultimately putting my job on the line. 
Now, when building a new site they don't even question what I will 
build it in. Zope is CEO friendly as well.

- Two of our sites at work were built at the same time. One in Zope 
one in JSP. Everyone worried about the Zope and how it compared to 
JSP (Tomcat). Fast forward a few months when the consultants who 
built the JSP site are gone and the two sites need content management 
and updating. I spent a little time with one user teaching them how 
to update some stuff with versions etc and they have been happily 
doing so ever since. The person who is responsible for keeping the 
JSP site updated has been struggling with code, FTP issues, compiling 
problems, etc. After about a month of struggling with her updates and 
changes she noticed the other user easily go in through his browser, 
do a quick change and make it go live. Fireworks erupted. She had a 
TIZZY! "DID YOU JUST CHANGE THE HOMEPAGE THAT EASILY? HOW CAN YOU DO 
THAT? WHY CAN'T I DO THAT?! OH MY GOD!!" To which he simply replied, 
"I don't know... I think it is cause it is Zope" (not really knowing 
what Zope was at all).

(last one)

- We were building a new brochure site (simple, graphic, etc) and the 
graphic artist who knows a bit of HTML but mostly works in 
DreamWeaver and has done a few Zope updates and image uploads in Zope 
before is heading the project. I set up a Zope server for him, gave 
him a username and password and basically went on to another project. 
A few weeks go by and I went to check to see how things had been 
going thinking that he would probably need me to get the data up 
there and start building the site in Zope. Not only was the site 
already built with DTML navigation that he had put in for location 
specific buttons but he was working on the second version of the 
entire site in a version. I was totally stunned.

Just a nice set of stories for you to share with your peers when they 
ask you why you should/would or do use Zope.

If anyone else has similar stories it would be nice to hear them.

Cheers,
J

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Re: [Zope] image resize

2000-12-08 Thread J. Atwood

Check out Zphoto on Zope.org..

http://www.zope.org/Members/Drew/Photo

J

At 1:42 PM -0600 12/8/2000, Leichtman, David J wrote:
Is there a way to do a dynamic image resize in Zope? I know PHP has that
ability, and I was hoping that Zope had something similar.
And I'm not talking about height and width atributes in the img tag. I mean
actually creating, on-the-fly, a new duplicate of the image that's a
different size.

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[Zope] Random choice in dtml-in?

2000-12-07 Thread J. Atwood

Ok.. so I can get a random item out of a folder with.

dtml-var expr="_.whrandom.choice(folder_name.objectValues())"

And I can iterate through a folder with

dtml-in "folder_name.objectValues()" size="1"
dtml-var id, dtml-var title, dtml-var other_attribute
/dtml-in

But I want to include the random statement within the dtml-in so I 
can get more of the object values back.

I know this must be some little ._."_.. or other such mix but I am 
getting frustrated trying.

Thanks,
J

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[Zope] RE: Random choice in dtml-in?

2000-12-07 Thread J. Atwood

I just love answering my own questions (maybe it is from the 
embarrassment of having to ask them).

Here is the code that works like a charm:

dtml-with expr="_.whrandom.choice(folder_name.objectValues())"
dtml-var "folder_name.attribute_name"
and
dtml-var id
/dtml-with

Thanks to Andy McKay for posting this in November.

I added a tip to Zope.org at 
http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/random_items

J



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Re: [Zope] Ah, I found it -- Estimate of community size

2000-11-29 Thread J. Atwood

I would also think that the size has grown in the last two months.

Cheers,
J


At 12:47 PM -0500 11/29/2000, Albert Boulanger wrote:
This was the item is was looking for on how big the Members folders was,
FYI.

From:

http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZWN/ZWN-2000-09-26/index_html?pp=1


Zope Web

   by Ethan Fremen

  Exorcising Zope.org

   The extremely large Members folder (11139 of you!) and acl_users
folder was causing Zope.org to load nearly 50 MB of
   "Ghosts" - stateless objects - into memory.

   The ever resourceful Shane Hathaway jumped in with his
BTreeFolders for both the acl_users folder and the Members
   folder.

   Now, instead of 26,000 objects loaded at once, only about 1,000 or
so get loaded.



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Re: [Zope] Possible disaster upgrading to 2.2.4

2000-11-28 Thread J. Atwood

Any idea of what version of ZDiscussions... since I do have a little 
something to do with that. I have been able to do upgrades.

J

At 12:41 PM -0500 11/28/2000, Chris McDonough wrote:
"ZDBase" isn't part of Zope 2.2.4.  It's an add-on (but you probably knew
that already).

The ZDiscussions product AFAICT does something very wrong when it installs
itself for the first time.  There have been numerous reports of problems
with it when the Zope underneath of it changes.  I don't know why.  It'd be
great to get it figured out.  I have a feeling that it plays games by
installing some sort of singleton somewhere in the objectbase which doesn't
get cleaned up when it's uninstalled.

Other folks said packing didn't help.

"ZODB corruption" (which I continue to maintain --somewhat quixotically--
that it's really not, not in a literal sense anyway) will continue to
manifest itself in the way you see it now.  If it's not otherwise
interrupting operations, the only continued symptoms will be the oid errors
you see.  You might be able to "start anew" by exporting all the objects in
your Zope root to .zexp or .xml files (as well as all your TTW ZClass
Products) and by subsequently reinstalling them in a new 2.2.4 instance
(along with any requisite disk-based Products).

- Original Message -
From: "Jonathan Cheyne" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Possible disaster upgrading to 2.2.4


  ok, its deffo to do with my data.fs cos the errors only start after that
  has been copied across. But the errors are different if i compare
  the console output from a failing 2.2.4 to a 2.2.0. If i do not install
  zdiscussions on 2.2.0 i only get the oid errors as items requiring display
  are requested from the database. with 2.4.4 i get the extra cannot import
  errors before zope starts regardless of whether zdiscussions are installed
  or not. something in zdbase is very different in 2.4.4.

  questions:

  1. Will packing my data.fs help? I havent done this since well never.

  2. Is the potential corruption of my data.fs likely to explode in my face
  without warning or is it/ will it only manifest itself during things liek
  product installs, upgrades etc?

  cheers

  Jonathan


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Re: [Zope] Factoids for supporting zope

2000-11-28 Thread J. Atwood

I am reading between the lines here.  I think that the original poster
has an argument inside his company.  He wants to use Zope, and some
office droid did financial research and concluded that Zope was
undercapitalized.

I think there are two questions to be posed here:

1) Does Zope, in its current state, do what the poster needs to have
done?  If so, it is capitalization should have no effect on the
decision whatsoever, he has source, even if DC folds Zope will live
on in some form.

I agree. DC and Zope are connected but if DC were to fold tomorrow 
(and trust me they are no where near folding) Zope would live on. 
There are thousands of active developers out there that would take it 
and run with it if DC decided not to. There are websites and 
structures to help in this day of Open Source 'openness'.


One worthwhile observation is that DC claims to have been
profitable prior to the VC investment.  I am not privy to strategy
or details of DC's capitalization.  But, they do have a track record
of profitablity and reasonable prudence.  With good management and
luck, they will remain profitable, and that is the end need for a
business.  If they stay profitable, they remain a business; if they
never become profitable, it does not matter how they are capitalized,
they will not survive.

I am sure that DC was profitable (I think they said two quarters 
before the 12 Mil). They were doing a lot of consulting and if you 
check their rates "2,300/day for work at a customer site and 
$1,800/day for work performed on Digital Creations premises" that is 
pretty darn good. They obviously had something to do with 
http://www.cbsnewyork.com and I am also sure that CBS has some nice 
deep pockets.

DC has been very smart in this market by creating and backing a good 
product, getting developer and designer buy-in and creating an 
undercurrent. Selling Zope would have been foolish, as proven by open 
sourcing ZEO.

At the end of the day Zope is going to be around as long as it is a 
powerful open source tool that can solve so many problems with such 
ease. There is no question that Zope and DC are about to take a big 
turn in the market. I say hold on to your hats.

J

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Re: [Zope] Factoids for supporting zope

2000-11-28 Thread J. Atwood

http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZWN/ZWN-2000-11-08

That should give you a good idea... My guess is that there are 
probably 1-2,000 active developers with more like 500 very active 
(building products, submitting bugs, betas and code). You should, 
however, be careful with these numbers b/c some of the more success 
Open Source projects are run by under 10 developers (Postgresql for 
one).

The three big things that point to a bright future of Zope/DC and 
that any business clown should be able to figure out are...

1) DC was profitable as a consulting company
2) DC just got $12,000,000 in a harsh market
3) Guido and his python dev team are now at DC

Again... this is time break out and rejoice. We might have to rename 
2001 "The Year of Zope".

J



At 1:03 PM -0500 11/28/2000, albert boulanger wrote:
I agree. DC and Zope are connected but if DC were to fold tomorrow
(and trust me they are no where near folding) Zope would live on.
There are thousands of active developers out there that would take it
and run with it if DC decided not to. There are websites and
structures to help in this day of Open Source 'openness'.

Yes, I wanted to get an estimate of this community. Can anyone tell me
how large the Members folder is currently at Zope.org? I recall a
number being greater than 10K when Zope.org switched to Btree for the
Members folder.

Regards,
Albert Boulanger


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Re: [Zope] FYI: Digital Creations secures $12M round of investment

2000-11-14 Thread J. Atwood

Congrats!

It is great to see a company that has not only pledged itself to the 
Open Source Movement but been extremely successful in doing so. Keep 
up the great work, good fight and outstanding products. Looking 
forward to seeing what else you have up your collective sleeves.

J

At 10:15 PM -0500 11/13/2000, Paul Everitt wrote:
Hello Zope friends.  At long last we at Digital Creations are able to
publicly say it: we've closed a $12M round of investment:

   http://www.digicool.com/News/CRound.html

It's out on the newswire now.  We'll start pushing it out more over the next
24 hours.


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Re: [Zope] Your thoughts about Zope-based database apps

2000-11-07 Thread J. Atwood

 From: "Alonso Rhenals" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Your thoughts about Zope-based database apps
 
 1. Is Zope a good tool to quicky build an efficient  effective user interface
 for a database application?

Yes. Once you get the hang of it it is all quite easy. I have at least one
(building another) site that is about 90% driven by the data from a
PostgreSQL database.

 2. In particular, what would be the best way to implement the inserting and
 updating of records along with input data validation? (Retrieving data from a
 database to show on a web page using Zope is straightforward as you know.)

ZSQL Methods.

 3. In several cases I'd like to implement a main form/subform, where the
 subform allows the user to enter several items related to only one record in
 the main form. Since every item might have many fields (say 20) I'd like to
 present just the most important fields on a table, and allow the user to
 view/enter/update all the fields for each item in a different web page. Those
 of you familiar with Microsoft Access know that in Access it is
 straightforward to implement this main form/subform interface. I wonder what
 would be the best way of implementing this using Zope?

You would have to build it. Not that it would be that tough. You could also
use a Zope Wizard if you want to do a couple of forms.

 4. Do you know of any existing Zope-based app similar to this?. Obviously, the
 back-end doesn't have to be MySQL.

http://fundraising.gotschool.com  - Although you can't see the management
interface which has lots of ways of extracting and updating data through
forms and ZSQL Methods. All PostgreSQL 6.5.3.

J




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Re: [Zope] Upscaling of performance

2000-11-02 Thread J. Atwood

1,000,000 hits is not that much but you can check out the Zope Benchmarks

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/benchmarks.html

On some good hardware it can handle about 100 Requests per second (8,640,000
per day). 

Beyond that you need two things... ZEO and hardware.

Cheers,
J



 From: Petr van Blokland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: Buro Petr van Blokland + Claudia Mens
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 Subject: [Zope] Upscaling of performance
 
 Hi,
 does have anyone reference on or information about
 the upscaling of Zope for *very* large hit performance:
 1.000.000 per day or so?
 
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Re: [Zope] advice re virtual hosting

2000-10-27 Thread J. Atwood

Hey Jonathan,

I don't know about the 'best' way, but you certainly can use 
SiteAccess. You point the main url to your Zope installation (and 
that is nothing) and you put a SiteRoot in the red folder and it will 
take care of www.red.com.

http://www.zope.org/Members/4am/SiteAccess2/vhosting

J

At 10:59 AM +0100 10/27/2000, Jonathan Cheyne wrote:
Hi all, just need to check the received wisdom regarding the various
possible combinations for doing virtual hosting with zope.

I have two domains, one is 'mine' and I want that to go to the root of
my zope installation. the other domain is for an internal client and I
want that to go to a folder within my zope (so they can acquire some of
my content).

i.e.
www.blue.com -- zopeserver/
www.red.com  -- zopeserver/red/

Whats the best way?

There seem to be three or four options, apache on 80 with zope on 8080
using virtual hosts on both (either?), squid on 80 and zope on 8080 and
finally zope alone on 80.

The site will be relatively low traffic for the root branch but higher
public traffic for the clients branch.

Whats the 'best' way? I got apache to front zope with proxypass and with
proxying on and seemed to get better performance. What about
flexibility? What about rewriting versus virtual hosts?

Ah so many juicy options!

I have a colocated box and the isp is holding two domains pointed at the
same ip address so I guess name based vhosts are the way by default but
is it better to try and get zope to do it alone on 80 (is this
possible?) or is it always better to have apache do it. I don't forsee
any need for genuinely static content that cannot be served from zope.

Your advice gratefully received.

Jonathan


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Re: [Zope] Reverse SendMail Question

2000-10-26 Thread J. Atwood

There is a product that does this.. of course, I cannot for the life of me
remember its name.

J

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:59:45 GMT
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Reverse SendMail Question
 
 Has anyone thought of using SendMail (or any other e-mail program) to send
 e-mail to Zope and have that e-mail be loaded directly into a specific folder
 (say, based on the e-mail address or subject line)?
 
 This would be handy to keep track of e-mail.  All the person would have to do
 is
 cc the project and all the e-mail could be viewed centrally.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Ron
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Re: [Zope] Hosting?

2000-10-26 Thread J. Atwood

Try http://www.rackspace.com.

You can start off with a 600 MHz, 128 MB Ram, 30 GB EIDE drive for about
$300 a month. They have great support and bandwidth and claim to be the
largest installed base of RH Linux. They also scale pretty well. I have
about 10 boxes with them for about year now.

Cheers,
J

 From: Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:15:51 -0400
 To: Zope mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Hosting?
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a commercial Zope
 hosting service for me.
 I've looked at the resources page on zope.org, and I have a
 couple feelers out, but I'd like to ask the community for
 recommendations as well.
 
 Requirements:
 
 I need a system that can handle a potentially very heavy
 load, though at first it will be quite small - we're a
 startup and have no customers yet.
 
 Location: We're in the northeast USA and most of our users
 will probably be in the US as well, so I'd prefer a service
 in North America.
 
 Zope: 2.2 at least, and access to install new products and
 external methods.
 I'm currently on codeit.com, but they have zope 2.1 and I
 need zope = 2.2 so I can use my custom product derived from
 PTK 0.9.
 
 Storage: We're doing things with digital images - *big* ones
 - so we need to start at about 100 MB and will need to grow;
 we'll be storing a *lot* of data for our users.  Eventually
 (probably not until later in 2001) we'll need MUCH more -
 possibly up to 1 GB eventually. (Beyond that point we will
 probably just rent a server at rackspace.com or somewhere
 but first we need to be able to develop a big enough
 customer base to pay for it.)
 
 Data transfer: Several times greater than storage. Users
 will upload large files which we will then download to our
 local network, so that's at least 2x our storage needs, plus
 there's the transfer involved in just using the site.
 
 Pricing: since our storage requirements will be continually
 growing, I'd like a payment plan that enables us to pay for
 the storage we need and add more as needed.
 
 -- 
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 slinkP arts:   music, sound, illustration, design, etc.
 web page:  http://www.slinkp.com
 A member of ARMS:   http://www.reacharms.com
 
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Re: [Zope] How many houres do I need to manage a Zope site?

2000-10-25 Thread J. Atwood


At 10:42 AM +0200 10/25/2000, Diny van Gool wrote:
1. How many Zope releases per year can I expect and how much time do I need
per release?

One major, four or five minor and three or four hotfixes. Schedule a 
day for the major, half a day each for the rest.

2. How much time do I need for product releases and fixes?

Each product will need to be tested and implemented so half a day for 
each major release. If you modify the products of course it will be 
longer.

3. How much time do I need for Zope database management? Besides a regular
backup and packing the Data.fs are there other things necessary?

Very little. Pack it when it gets too big (once a week) or set a cron 
to do it... oh sorry, NT... set a AT command to do it.

Do I miss important tasks? Has anybody done this before?

Yeah.. rebooting NT every 4 days. :)

J

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Re: [Zope] How small a box can zope run on?

2000-10-25 Thread J. Atwood

I have had it running on a Pentium 133 w/ 16 MB of RAM and it was actually
doing ok. Not quick, per se, but ok.

J

 From: "Alexander Limi" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:43:57 +0200
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] How small a box can zope run on?
 
 Hi,
 
 Just a quick question:
 
 We are building some device controller software and to control those we have
 a normal 486 with 24MB RAM running linux. Has anybody tried running zope on
 such a modest setup? There is only going to be one or two users connected to
 Zope at once, so we don't need much performance in terms of page views per
 second :)
 
 Cheers,
 
 
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Re: [Zope] OT:NT and rebooting

2000-10-25 Thread J. Atwood

"Months without rebooting"?

That is certainly not something to brag about. With three of my
installations of Zope on Linux I have the machines at 194, 204 and 55 days
of uptime (and the 55 was because of a bad powerstrip, the other others have
been up since I brought them up). While NT can and does stay up for long
periods of time, it still is a very poor server choice as anything you
install leads to a reboot. I have installed countless things on the Linux
boxes and never brought it down. That is the difference and makes all the
difference when it comes to a website.

J

 From: "Wolfgang Strobl" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: GMD
 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:13:32 +0200
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] OT:NT and rebooting
 
 [...] To: trimmed to zope.org
 
 On 25 Oct 2000, 23:49  Bak @ kedai wrote:
 
 
 sorry if this is offtopic, but i see reference of rebooting every so
 often with NT( and maybe W2K).  is this real?  or FUD? i use linux
 myself and would like to confirm this from all you guys' experience
 
 It's FUD. I'M running Zope on two NT servers here, which run many months
 between reboots. I just checked - the Zope on the intranet server has an
 uptime 
 of 34 days 8 hours 32 min 3 sec now.
 
 This tells us that I installed Zope 2.2.2 three days after it was released on
 www.zope.org. :-)
 
 
 Do I miss important tasks? Has anybody done this before?
 
 Yeah.. rebooting NT every 4 days. :)
 
 
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Re: [Zope] Sendmail examples

2000-10-22 Thread J. Atwood

Hey Steve,

Don't have any examples with SQL (although, in theory it is just a 
call to some data and is treated the same as any other data) but take 
a look at this.

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/tell_a_friend/

Cheers,
J

At 10:01 PM +1000 1/22/2001, steve smith wrote:
Anyone have any good, real-world examples using DTML-Sendmail tags? Would
especially appreciate examples integrating SQL queries.

Ta!

Steve


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Re: [Zope] Creating Object

2000-10-22 Thread J. Atwood

You can't create an object as superuser.

Create another user in acl_users with 'manager' group and log in as 
them (you will probably have to reboot your browser).

J

At 10:41 PM +0200 10/22/2000, Salvatore DIDIO wrote:
Hello,

I am new to Zope
I've just installed Zope on Linux. I just can't create any object !.
I receive the following message :
 the object can not be owned by the superuser
(line 217 in file Owned.py)
Could someone help me ?

Thank you very much



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Re: [Zope] How about removing broken things like Confera andZDiscussions?

2000-10-18 Thread J. Atwood

There is a ZDiscussions that works. It is called ZUBB.

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB

But, I agree, old product that have been left behind (the old version of
ZDiscussions/Confera) should be marked and or archived.

J

 From: "Cary O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 09:36:13 -0400 (EDT)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] How about removing broken things like Confera and
 ZDiscussions?
 
 
 Why are things like ZDiscussions and Confera even on the
 zope download pages?  They don't work!  It would be better
 if they were moved to a section called "Things that worked
 once but aren't being maintained so they don't work
 any more".  Otherwise people starting out might see all
 these seemingly useful things and get frustrated when
 they dont work.
 
 Arrrggg.   I just want a bulletin board that works!
 
 I know what you are going to say, so I'll start digging
 through the python code before you yell at me...
 
 -- cary
 
 
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Re: [Zope] How about removing broken things like Confera andZDiscussions?

2000-10-18 Thread J. Atwood

So... add attachments. Not really a big deal. No one product is going to do
it all out of the box. That is why it is Open Source.. you open it and
provide your own source of code. :)

J

 From: "Cary O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:41:59 -0400 (EDT)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J. Atwood)
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] How about removing broken things like Confera and
 ZDiscussions?
 
 There is a ZDiscussions that works. It is called ZUBB.
 
 
 But it doesn't do attachments.  I really need attachments.
 I'm trying to fix Attachments in ZDConfera, but the FileObject
 class doesn't seem to exist any more.
 
 Arrg.
 
 -- cary
 
 
 http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB
 
 But, I agree, old product that have been left behind (the old version of
 ZDiscussions/Confera) should be marked and or archived.
 
 J
 
 From: "Cary O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 09:36:13 -0400 (EDT)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] How about removing broken things like Confera and
 ZDiscussions?
 
 
 Why are things like ZDiscussions and Confera even on the
 zope download pages?  They don't work!  It would be better
 if they were moved to a section called "Things that worked
 once but aren't being maintained so they don't work
 any more".  Otherwise people starting out might see all
 these seemingly useful things and get frustrated when
 they dont work.
 
 Arrrggg.   I just want a bulletin board that works!
 
 I know what you are going to say, so I'll start digging
 through the python code before you yell at me...
 
 -- cary
 
 
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Re: [Zope] Discussions

2000-10-18 Thread J. Atwood

Yes, Squishdot is a very good option as well.

ZUBB, it would seem, it being maintained by little ole me.

Maybe I should write a little "Differences between ZUBB and Squishdot" so
people can figure out where to use one or the other.

J

 From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: New Information Paradigms
 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 17:29:31 +0100
 To: Kapil Thangavelu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: "Cary O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Discussions
 
 Kapil Thangavelu wrote:
 
 Cary O'Brien wrote:
 
 Why are things like ZDiscussions and Confera even on the
 zope download pages?  They don't work!  It would be better
 if they were moved to a section called "Things that worked
 once but aren't being maintained so they don't work
 any more".  Otherwise people starting out might see all
 these seemingly useful things and get frustrated when
 they dont work.
 
 Arrrggg.   I just want a bulletin board that works!
 
 perhaps you want to check out ZUBB...
 
 Or Squishdot ;-)
 
 Who's maintaining ZUBB nowadays?
 
 cheers,
 
 Chris
 
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Re: [Zope] Discussions

2000-10-18 Thread J. Atwood

No problem... I have to go look at Squishdot again though. Forgetting some
of the features.

J

 From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: New Information Paradigms
 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 18:05:55 +0100
 To: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Kapil Thangavelu [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cary O'Brien
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Discussions
 
 "J. Atwood" wrote:
 
 Maybe I should write a little "Differences between ZUBB and Squishdot" so
 people can figure out where to use one or the other.
 
 I'd love to read it :-)
 
 Chris
 


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[Zope] Zope Discussion Forum @ DevShed.com

2000-10-16 Thread J. Atwood

http://www.devshed.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topicsforum=Zope
number=10DaysPrune=60LastLogin=

I found this awhile ago and it has been pretty inactive (until last week
when I started posting.. :) ). It would be great to see some of the list
subscribers here and other members of the Zope community get involved. It is
something that I think is much needed on Zope.org (A bulletin board
system... I am SURE that I could suggest one!) as it helps Newbies and
provides a more solid, long lasting and manageable discussion.

Maybe something for ZDP if not for Zope.org.

Comments? Suggestions?

Thanks,
J




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Re: [Zope] how to include Flash/SWF objects in Zope website?

2000-10-16 Thread J. Atwood

You could just upload them into Zope and point to them.

http://www.gotschool.com (see flash demos).

It uploads as a "application/octet-stream"

I am sure you are talking about much more interaction.

J


 From: Fred Yankowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:06:53 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] how to include Flash/SWF objects in Zope website?
 
 I want to include some Flash/SWF objects in a Zope website, but I
 don't see any built-in way to do this or any Product that would help.
 Any suggestions?
 
 If all else fails, I'm thinking about creating a simple product for
 this, modeled on ImageFile.py.
 
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Re: [Zope] Zope Discussion Forum @ DevShed.com

2000-10-16 Thread J. Atwood

I am more than happy to set up a ZUBB somewhere as well. A sort of Zope
starter, question and/answer forum. Is this something that the community is
generally interested in or not?

J

 From: "Peter Bengtsson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 20:19:09 +0100
 To: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope Discussion Forum @ DevShed.com
 
 here here! 
 
 I definitly agree! Forum's are much easier to categorize and browse for
 answers than the mailing list.
 Categorization should be per subject, not per experience.
 
 If Zope.org doesn't want to set one up, then let the best man win. (i.e. make
 it fast)
 
 
 
 http://www.devshed.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topicsforum=Zope
 number=10DaysPrune=60LastLogin=
 
 I found this awhile ago and it has been pretty inactive (until last week
 when I started posting.. :) ). It would be great to see some of the list
 subscribers here and other members of the Zope community get involved. It is
 something that I think is much needed on Zope.org (A bulletin board
 system... I am SURE that I could suggest one!) as it helps Newbies and
 provides a more solid, long lasting and manageable discussion.
 
 Maybe something for ZDP if not for Zope.org.
 
 Comments? Suggestions?
 
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[Zope] If/And statements?

2000-10-11 Thread J. Atwood

Ok.. a very simple question.

How do you do a if statement with an 'and'. If this, and that..

Was just asked of me and I had really not come up against it in Zope.

(must be Wednesday)

Thanks,
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Re: [Zope] If/And statements?

2000-10-11 Thread J. Atwood

That was the stuff...

Thanks,
J

 From: Daniel Rusch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:29:52 -0500
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 Subject: Re: [Zope] If/And statements?
 
 dtml-if "a==b and c==d"
 blah
 dtml-elif "e==f"
 blah blah
 dtml-else
 blah blah blah
 /dtml-if
 
 "J. Atwood" wrote:
 
 Ok.. a very simple question.
 
 How do you do a if statement with an 'and'. If this, and that..
 
 Was just asked of me and I had really not come up against it in Zope.
 
 (must be Wednesday)
 
 Thanks,
 J
 
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Re: [Zope] Web statistics

2000-10-10 Thread J. Atwood

At 2:03 PM + 10/7/2000, Stephan Goeldi wrote:
Is there something like webalizer for Zope?
I would like to create a statistic of my website's visits.

Webalizer and Analog will work great. Zope logs are standard.

J

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[Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter

2000-10-10 Thread J. Atwood

It would be really nice to know how many people are downloading the 
products. This would also be a great feature to add to the actual 
Zope distribution. I know you could get this from the logs (easily) 
but you could also add a small counter to the product 'view' method, 
something along the lines of what is in the Simple Url products (BTW 
one of my favorites) and make it something you can turn on or off for 
your products.

dtml-call "REQUEST.set('hitcount', hitcount + 1)"
dtml-call "propertysheets.public.manage_editProperties(REQUEST)"
dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect(url)"

Thanks,
J

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Re: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter

2000-10-10 Thread J. Atwood

Yup... the ZODB does grow with each hit. Not much of course, but some. I am
sure for a site such as Zope.org it would not be unmanageable. They most
certainly have automated ways of packing the DB.

J

 From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:05:24 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter
 
 Of course the only problem with a hit counter is that high traffic requests
 mean continually writing the object into the ZODB each time it gets hit /
 downloaded, whatever. Thats why I release FSCounter which uses the file
 system. I would like to expand this to cover multiple objects...
 
 - Original Message -----
 From: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:17 AM
 Subject: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter
 
 
 It would be really nice to know how many people are downloading the
 products. This would also be a great feature to add to the actual
 Zope distribution. I know you could get this from the logs (easily)
 but you could also add a small counter to the product 'view' method,
 something along the lines of what is in the Simple Url products (BTW
 one of my favorites) and make it something you can turn on or off for
 your products.
 
 dtml-call "REQUEST.set('hitcount', hitcount + 1)"
 dtml-call "propertysheets.public.manage_editProperties(REQUEST)"
 dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect(url)"
 
 Thanks,
 J
 
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Re: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter

2000-10-10 Thread J. Atwood

Ooops... sorry Ethan, didn't mean to send this to the wrong place. Just
wanted to see what others felt about it. If it is undoable, cool. If someone
figures out a way, it would be really appreciated and certainly a boost to
Zopista's and product developers to see how popular and used our products
are.

That is all.

Thanks,
J

 From: mindlace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:15:44 -0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter
 
 Andy McKay wrote:
 
 Of course the only problem with a hit counter is that high traffic requests
 mean continually writing the object into the ZODB each time it gets hit /
 downloaded, whatever. Thats why I release FSCounter which uses the file
 system. I would like to expand this to cover multiple objects...
 
 The problem is slightly more complicated than this:  We have Apache
 cache file and image objects.  This is a good thing, because they are
 static, and Apache will *always* be better than Zope at serving static
 content. This is a bad thing, because direct requests for files don't
 ever make it to Zope.
 
 Nonetheless, this doesn't affect the /view method.
 
 Further, we now have the feature that the listing of products shows the
 latest version, no /view method in the middle, for your direct download.
 
 I may be able to do some parsing of the apache log files for those
 things that end in tgz, tar.gz , and zip.  This would be somewhat
 canonical, except for the fact that because we have cache headers set on
 the file objects, they are cached downstream, and so many requests for
 cache objects will never make it to our Apache at all.
 
 ~ethan
 
 p.s. I'd really appreciate it if requests for improvements of zope.org
 be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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Re: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?

2000-10-09 Thread J. Atwood

Sure..

http://fundraising.gotschool.com/tell_a_friend.html

Is that what you want?

J

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:02:36 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?
 
 Hi,
 I am still new to zope and am wondering if there is a tell-a-friend
 script/product/example floating around for me to look at?  If not,
 and I made my own form with Zope (which I have not done yet),
 what variable would call the existing page the user was on ?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 --Sean
 
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Re: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?

2000-10-09 Thread J. Atwood

Well.. a few extra minutes in my day get you...

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/tell_a_friend/index_html

Enjoy.

J

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:18:56 -0700
 To: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?
 
 Yes, exactly.
 
 On 9 Oct 2000, at 14:53, J. Atwood wrote:
 
 Sure..
 
 http://fundraising.gotschool.com/tell_a_friend.html
 
 Is that what you want?
 
 J
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:02:36 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?
 
 Hi,
 I am still new to zope and am wondering if there is a tell-a-friend
 script/product/example floating around for me to look at?  If not,
 and I made my own form with Zope (which I have not done yet),
 what variable would call the existing page the user was on ?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 --Sean
 
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Re: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?

2000-10-09 Thread J. Atwood

Hey... no problem. I have answered a few questions in the past about form
validation and since this is a good example of it and a neat little piece of
code I thought it could help.

Besides, there is probably some sort of good Karma in the world of
programming that I will benefit from (or already have!) :)

Enjoy,
J


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:18:41 -0700
 To: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?
 
 Now this is service!  Thanks a lot for the effort.
 
 --Sean
 
 On 9 Oct 2000, at 17:41, J. Atwood wrote:
 
 Well.. a few extra minutes in my day get you...
 
 http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/tell_a_friend/index_html
 
 Enjoy.
 
 J
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:18:56 -0700
 To: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?
 
 Yes, exactly.
 
 On 9 Oct 2000, at 14:53, J. Atwood wrote:
 
 Sure..
 
 http://fundraising.gotschool.com/tell_a_friend.html
 
 Is that what you want?
 
 J
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:02:36 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?
 
 Hi,
 I am still new to zope and am wondering if there is a tell-a-friend
 script/product/example floating around for me to look at?  If not,
 and I made my own form with Zope (which I have not done yet),
 what variable would call the existing page the user was on ?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 --Sean
 
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Re: [Zope] Newbie with little questions about Zope

2000-10-05 Thread J. Atwood



 From: Antonio Navarro Navarro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 16:35:37 +0200
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Newbie with little questions about Zope
 
 Hi All !
 
 I am a newbie in the Zope world. I've benn working several years with IIS,
 Apache, Perl, ASP, PHP, etc.. in Windows and Unix environments, and want to
 try Zope, but have some questions about it.
 
 1.- Can I made virtual hosts (www.domain1.com, www.domain2.com, and so on)
 using the Zope web server, or must I use Apache and install pcgi ?

Yes. The product to do this is called SiteAccess and I have been running it
for 10 months (5 sites) with no problems.

 
 2.- Where can I find information about running Zope + Zserver + Php +
 PostgreSQL under Linux ?

Search for PHP on Zope.org. Zserver is Zope (part of) and there are database
connectors (a couple) for PostgreSQL (been using that for 10 months as
well).

 3.- I have installed Zope from the rpms and works fine, but I'm unable to
 change the HTTP port from 8080 to 80. When I made the change and then
 restart Zope, I can see during a few seconds two processes running with the
 new port (-w 80) but after a few seconds the server stpos.


Send the error but my 90% guess is that you already have apache running on
the system at port 80 and they are fighting for the port. Look for 'httpd'
under top.


Cheers,
J


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[Zope] Wierd 2.2.2 start up problem

2000-10-04 Thread J. Atwood

I have installed 2.2.2 on more than a few machines on my fifth machine I
got this after doing the install.

2000-10-04T19:54:35 ERROR(200) ZODB Couldn't load state for
'\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\003'
Traceback (innermost last):
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.2.2-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line
446, in setstate
ImportError: No module named Document

I have tried wiping it away and trying again like three times. Anyone know
what this? Why it is not happening in installs. All RH Linux.

Thanks,
J


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Re: [Zope] IMAP and Zope!

2000-10-03 Thread J. Atwood

Why not just pick apart the pieces you need from WorldPilot. It seems a
shame to have to start from scratch.

J

 From: Joachim Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: Iuveno - Smart Communication
 Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 17:17:00 +0200
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] IMAP and Zope!
 
 Hello!
 
 I am searching for a current IMAP Adapter solution for Zope. What we have
 found
 so far is Ryan Hughes' WorldPilot, which has great IMAP support, but doesn't
 really integrate with Zope, and the two products "NotMail" and "IMAP Adapter"
 on the classic Zope site. The latter two seem to have been unmaintained for
 quite a while.
 
 Does anybody use the old IMAP Adapter successfully with Zope 2.2.x or know an
 alternative solution?
 
 We are working on an integrated groupware solution (it will all be open
 sourced) and want to either store all documents (incl. mail) in a single
 Zope-based storage or at least simulate that by dynamically wrapping the mails
 into objects (similar to what Local_FS does with files on the file system).
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 Joachim.
 
 
 -- 
 Iuveno - Smart Communication
 
 
 Joachim Werner
 
 
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 85055 Ingolstadt
 
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[Zope] Zope bug collector on zope.org available?

2000-10-02 Thread J. Atwood

http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/

Does anyone know what product this is and if it is available for download? I
am looking for something that is similar to BugZilla.

Ethan? Paul? Anyone?

Thanks,
J


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Re: [Zope] Zope bug collector on zope.org available?

2000-10-02 Thread J. Atwood

Hey Steve,

Exactly. It is really full-featured. I am impressed.

Thanks,
J

 From: Steve Spicklemire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope bug collector on zope.org available?
 
 
 Hi J.,
 
 Is this what you're looking for?
 
 http://www.zope.org//Members/klm/TrackerWiki/TrackerCVSInstructions
 
 -steve
 "J" == J Atwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 J http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/
 
 J Does anyone know what product this is and if it is available
 J for download? I am looking for something that is similar to
 J BugZilla.
 
 J Ethan? Paul? Anyone?
 
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[Zope] ANN: ZUBB/ZDiscussions 0.6.0 Released

2000-10-01 Thread J. Atwood

http://www.zope.com/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB

With the help of Jeffrey and Angel here is 0.6.0

Changes in Version 0.6.0

Fixed the problem (again) with 2.2.2 (submitted by Angel Garcia)
Added message count to the main view (submitted by Jeffrey Harris)
Added last post to main view (submitted by Jeffrey Harris)
Modified thread view so it will show entire thread (Submitted by 
Jeffrey Harris)
Modified both README and header of ZDiscussions.py
Upgraded status to STABLE from DEVELOPMENT as it has now been in 
production on five of my sites with no problems.

Example Sites: http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB/EXAMPLES

Report bugs and such to: http://www.bwanazulia.com/discussions/test/

If you have a ZUBB/ZDiscussion installation and would like to be 
added to the list please let me know.

Thanks,
J



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Re: [Zope] WebTechniques Web Tools Awards

2000-09-30 Thread J. Atwood

Done and done.

You can also go directly to

http://www.webtechniques.com/wtawards/2000/form.shtml

It is not a quick form but well worth it.

Enjoy,
J

At 2:52 PM -0400 9/30/2000, Gary E Graham wrote:
We have entered Zope in WebTechniques "Web Tools Awards" contest. We 
would appreciate your help by voting for Zope for your Open Source 
choice.

Starting Monday, October 2nd, please visit 
http://www.webtechniques.com and place your vote for Zope.

Thank you for your support.

--Gary

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Digital CreationsFredericksburg, Virginia

Creators of Zope: The Open Source Application / Content Management Server
www.zope.org
www.digicool.com

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Re: [Zope] Suggestion: Zope.org, products and testing...

2000-09-29 Thread J. Atwood

At 12:29 PM +0900 9/29/2000, Alexander Schonfeld wrote:
?On the zope.org site, how about adding a property for products: "tested
versions of Zope".

That way we could know, without doing all the testing ourselves, whether
or not a product was useable.

I second that. It should also be by release version and be able to 
handle multiple entries. (2.1.6, 2.1.4, 2.2.1, 2.2.2).

J

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[Zope] Problems upgrading 2.1.6 - 2.2.2

2000-09-24 Thread J. Atwood

I followed the HOW-TO here

http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/HowTos/zopeinstall/ZOPE-INSTALL-HOWTO

And looked around for different documentation but, alas, was left 
without much help.

I can move over the Data.fs file, and reinstall the products but 
every product is broken when I start it back up (again and again). I 
have tried removing them and reinstalling them but it will not let me 
import the .zexp files (any of the products). I get the following 
error (for more than one product)


 Error type:  SystemError
 Error value: Failed to import class 
_ZClass_for_ZPhotoAlbum from module Products.Photo


Traceback (innermost last):
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 222, in 
publish_module
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in 
zpublisher_exception_hook
 (Object: Traversable)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in publish
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply
 (Object: manage_importObject)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in 
call_object
 (Object: manage_importObject)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py, line 519, in 
manage_importObject
 (Object: Traversable)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/ExportImport.py, line 208, in importFile
SystemError: (see above)

Even products that there is no .zexp file like SimpleURL 1.0 the 
product is just broken.

Is there another way of going about this? Anyone done it 
successfully? I guess my next step is to try out each and every one 
of these products in Zope 2.2.2 to see if they actually work.

Thanks,
J

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Re: [Zope] sendmail

2000-09-19 Thread J. Atwood

It looks like the email address you are sending (testing) to is not valid.

"host not found"

J

At 7:10 AM -0400 9/19/2000, Jason Cunliffe wrote:
Hello

Trying to automate some sendmail messages
but we keep getting

Error Type: error
Error Value: host not found

Traceback (innermost last):
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 222, in
publish_module
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in
zpublisher_exception_hook
 (Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions)
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in publish
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply
 (Object: sendmail_test)
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in
call_object
 (Object: sendmail_test)
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 167, in __call__
 (Object: sendmail_test)
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 502, in
__call__
 (Object: sendmail_test)
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/Products/MailHost/SendMailTag.py, line 188, in
render
 (Object: dolphinsMailHost)
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/Products/MailHost/MailHost.py, line 220, in
send
 (Object: dolphinsMailHost)
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python1.5/smtplib.py, line 452, in sendmail
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python1.5/smtplib.py, line 303, in ehlo
error: (see above)

Any clues to what is wrng here?

tia
- Jason

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[Zope] Broken 'What's New' on Zope.org?

2000-09-15 Thread J. Atwood

Is it just me or is the 'What's New' Feature on Zope.org been broken for
months? I get..

System Unavailable 

This site is currently experiencing technical difficulties. Please contact
the site administrator for moreinformation. For additional technical
information, please refer to the HTML source for this page. Thank you for
your patience.

Error type:  TypeError
Error value: unhashable type

And in the code..

Traceback (innermost last):
  File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 222, in
publish_module
  File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in
publish
  File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in
zpublisher_exception_hook
(Object: Traversable)
  File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in
publish
  File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in
mapply
(Object: newitems.html)
  File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in
call_object
(Object: newitems.html)
  File /usr/local/dc/zope_soft/lib/python/OFS/DTMLDocument.py, line 177, in
__call__
(Object: newitems.html)
  File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line
528, in __call__
(Object: newitems.html)
  File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Let.py, line 147,
in render
(Object: results="SiteIndex(REQUEST=REQUEST)")
  File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_In.py, line 493,
in renderwb
(Object: results)
  File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_In.py, line 741,
in sort_sequence
(Object: results)
TypeError: (see above)


Just me? Or is this a 'known' issue? It was/is my favorite feature of
Zope.org.

Thanks,
J


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Re: [Zope] Broken 'What's New' on Zope.org?

2000-09-15 Thread J. Atwood

I looked at the source once and tried to figure it out. Mostly it looks like
they keep it all in a catalog (duh) and set a cookie as to your last visit.
When login and go to the 'What's New' page they check the cookie, compare it
against the items recently added and show you the list. I guess it would
only require the site catalog and the users logging in. They might also
write the 'last visit' into the ZODB.

It is also something I have wanted to do for awhile but have not really
built that many user based sites. Let me know what you come up with or if
you want further description. I am also going to try (someday) to build a
simple version into ZUBB (as you probably are going to into Squishdot).

Hope it helps...

J

 From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: New Information Paradigms
 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 18:18:39 +0100
 To: Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Broken 'What's New' on Zope.org?
 
 Chris McDonough wrote:
 
 This is a longstanding bug.
 
 Send complaints to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 If anyone fixes it, please let us all know...
 
 I'm looking for just the same functionality for a site here adn I was
 hoping to do a view_source for the answer :-S
 
 cheers,
 
 Chris
 


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Re: [Zope] Newbie - Zope won't start

2000-09-15 Thread J. Atwood

Read the /doc/INSTALL

When you run install you should give it the username and group

./install -g nobody -u nobody

Try that and start it again.

J

 From: John VanDyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:13:43 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Newbie - Zope won't start
 
 I downloaded and installed Zope for Linux as per the instructions at zope.org.
 
 When I try to start Zope with ./start  I get a report that it has started up
 on ports 8080, 8021, and 8099.
 
 Then I get this:
 
 Traceback (innermost last):
 File "/usr/zope/Zope-2.2.1-linux2-x86/z2.py", line 708, in ?
 pf = open(PID_FILE, 'w')
 IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
 '/usr/zope/Zope-2.2.1-linux2-x86/var/Z2.p
 id'
 
 I installed it as root and am root when I issue the start command.
 
 This is a stock Red Hat 6.2 Intel box.
 
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Re: [Zope] Static pages

2000-09-14 Thread J. Atwood

The best way is the product called Loadsite. You can point it to a 
directory and it will suck up all your images and html. Zope will 
have no problem serving it up.

J

At 9:56 AM +0100 9/14/2000, Nick Trout wrote:
Hi, I would like to incorporate a load of static HTML pages into my Zope
website.

My question: what is the best way to do this?

Is there a product to this.?

I don't really want to have to use Apache.

Regards,
Nick.


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Re: [Zope] zope 2.2.1 and python 1.6

2000-09-13 Thread J. Atwood

Stick with 1.5.2 or beware the pitfalls.

J

 From: Jon Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:35:44 -0400 (EDT)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] zope 2.2.1 and python 1.6
 
 hello,
 
 i couldn't find anything in the list archives or the docs about python
 1.6  from python's site, it looks like there are a lot of changes that
 could break code.  can i run zope 2.2.1 on python 1.6 or should i
 stick with 1.5.2?
 
 thanks,
 
 -jon
 
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[Zope] Zope 2.2.1 Vrs Apache Benchmarks using Apache Bench (AB)

2000-09-13 Thread J. Atwood

I have done this before
(http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/benchmarks.html) but I just got my
hands on a brand new server and thought I would see how 2.2.1 does.

Machine: 600 MHz, 128 MB Ram, 20 GB EIDE drive, Linux 6.2

Ran it 5 times.. always came out close to this (+/- 1 RPS)

Server Software:Zope/Zope
Server Port:80

Document Path:  /index_html
Document Length:184 bytes

Concurrency Level:  25
Time taken for tests:   9.715 seconds
Complete requests:  1000
Failed requests:0
Total transferred:  387387 bytes
HTML transferred:   184184 bytes
Requests per second:102.93
Transfer rate:  39.88 kb/s received

Connnection Times (ms)
  min   avg   max
Connect:0 5   254
Processing:   100   23436
Total:100   239   290

And Apache which I ran a lot. The RPS were anywhere from 250-850.. so this
was about average of all of them.

Server Software:Apache/1.3.12
Server Port:8080

Document Path:  /index.html
Document Length:231 bytes

Concurrency Level:  25
Time taken for tests:   1.896 seconds
Complete requests:  1000
Failed requests:0
Total transferred:  520520 bytes
HTML transferred:   231231 bytes
Requests per second:527.43
Transfer rate:  274.54 kb/s received

Connnection Times (ms)
  min   avg   max
Connect:0 327
Processing:1842   706
Total: 1845   733

Interesting as I upped the anti (requests and concurrency) Zope stuck to
about 95-100 RPS and Apache started to lower (250-650).

Disclaimer: This was a totally static test and it only shows how fast Zope
can serve up static pages as Apache certainly does not have all the features
of Zope. This is not very scientific just interesting.

Take a look the page linked at the top if you want to have look at some
other tests.

J







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Re: [Zope] ZServer Statistics

2000-09-11 Thread J. Atwood

 Is there way to determine how many (and which)pages
 ZServer serves? I am running ZServer as my primary
 
 Have a look into
 
 /path_to_your_zope/var/Z2.log

And run a log analyzer like Analog (http://www.analog.cx) on it.

J


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Re: [Zope] Looking for Zope vs. Others at-a-glance comparison

2000-09-11 Thread J. Atwood

Sorry.. the second link should have been...

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/zope.html

J

 From: J. Atwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:44:33 -0400
 To: Jason Cunliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Looking for Zope vs. Others at-a-glance comparison
 
 Try 
 
 http://www.camworld.com/cms/
 
 And more at
 
 http://www.camworld.com/misc/cms.html
 
 Cheers,
 J
 
 From: "Jason Cunliffe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 09:17:43 -0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Looking for Zope vs. Others at-a-glance comparison
 
 Hello
 
 I need to present the arguments for why we haev chosen Zope vs. Others.
 
 Does anyone know of a clear at-a-glance table or anything with the main
 contenders, features, price, licensing etc.
 
 Thanks
 - Jason
 
 Jason CUNLIFFE = NOMADICS.(Interactive Art and Technology).Design Director
 
 
 
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Re: [Zope] Looking for Zope vs. Others at-a-glance comparison

2000-09-11 Thread J. Atwood

Try 

http://www.camworld.com/cms/

And more at

http://www.camworld.com/misc/cms.html

Cheers,
J

 From: "Jason Cunliffe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 09:17:43 -0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Looking for Zope vs. Others at-a-glance comparison
 
 Hello
 
 I need to present the arguments for why we haev chosen Zope vs. Others.
 
 Does anyone know of a clear at-a-glance table or anything with the main
 contenders, features, price, licensing etc.
 
 Thanks
 - Jason
 
 Jason CUNLIFFE = NOMADICS.(Interactive Art and Technology).Design Director
 
 
 
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Re: [Zope] ZServer Statistics

2000-09-11 Thread J. Atwood

I have Analog running on a bunch of Zope servers (some behind Apache some
not) here are the only lines that make a difference.

LOGFILE /usr/local/zope/var/Z2.log

DIRSUFFIX index_html

I know that seems simple but that is all the is custom in my analog.cfg that
I took from the examples/big.cfg and made those two changes to (and a lot of
others that are site specific).

The best thing to do is get down and dirty with the fairly-good
documentation.

J


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:54:26 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] ZServer Statistics
 
 
 Is there way to determine how many (and which)pages
 ZServer serves? I am running ZServer as my primary
 
 Have a look into
 
 /path_to_your_zope/var/Z2.log
 
 And run a log analyzer like Analog (http://www.analog.cx) on it.
 
 Analog is a great tool and I have used it under other Web Servers.
 
 I wonder if anyone has a working config file which can read the Zope
 logs and would be willing to share with everyone.
 
 I'd be happy to write one, but being realistic since it has been on my
 to-do list for six months  ( I believe that it is item number 351 ;-$ ) I
 would
 be fooling myself to think that I could do it in a reasonable time for
 everyone.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Zope] Zope.org is soooooo slow (not really)

2000-08-31 Thread J. Atwood

Umm.. what makes you say it is slow? It popped up just as fast as
Microsoft.com and Apple.com this morning (with each page after even faster).

Might be your connection. Certainly not slow from here (NYC, DSL)

J


 From: Erik Enge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: EMM Solutions
 Date: 31 Aug 2000 14:45:15 +0200
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Zope.org is soo slow.
 
 
 Zope.org is slow as hell.  A couple of days a week at least.  It
 doesn't exactly work in favor for Zope when I try to show of Zope.org
 to friends, collegues or potential customers and the site won't even
 respond.  Argh!
 
 Why is it so slow?  Do something about it!
 
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Re: [Zope] FTP crashing Zope?

2000-08-30 Thread J. Atwood

I have seen it in a beta version. Every time I connect a FTP client it
crashed. Tried it 4 - 5 times.

J

 From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: New Information Paradigms
 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:49:58 +0100
 To: Dario Lopez-KXsten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] FTP crashing Zope?
 
 Dario Lopez-KXsten wrote:
 Is this a bug in latest Zope (2.2.1) or is this expected behaviour? If, the
 latter is the case, what can I do to a) turn off FTP access, b) make sure
 that my Zope is up and running automagically after a crash?
 
 Ewww.. this seems quite nasty :(
 
 If you can reproduce this, I'd stick it with a really detailed
 description into the collector
 
 Has anyone else seen this?
 
 cheers,
 
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[Zope] Case Studies (good!)

2000-08-30 Thread J. Atwood

Does anyone else love those case studies? I have was grinning ear to ear
reading the new one about replacing all Notes/Domino (which I know and
respect) with Zope. I would love to see more studies on all sorts of
different sites (big, small, database driven, not).

They are also really useful for those of us who need to try and convince
management that 'others are doing it too', which is a cold hard fact of the
corporate world. I would love to see much more (weekly) as well as more on
hardware and hits.

Keep up the great work DC.

Cheers,
J


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Re: [Zope] Where is news section how-to?

2000-08-29 Thread J. Atwood

It is also in the Tutorial.

Enjoy,
J

 From: Kapil Thangavelu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:55:34 -0700
 To: Radim Gelner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Where is news section how-to?
 
 Radim Gelner wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 few weeks ago, on Zope site I came across a document describing how to
 build news section with features like displaying with five most recent
 items from a folder, etc.
 
 But now I can't recall, where it was. Can someone point me in a right
 direction.
 
 something along the lines of
 
 dtml-in "objectValues(['NewsItem', 'DTML Document'])
 sort=bobobase_modification_time reverse size=5
 
 dtml-with sequence-item
 a href="dtml-var.absolute_url;"dtml-var title_or_id/a
 /dtml-with
 
 /dtml-in
 
 
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Re: [Zope] 2.2.1 and zdiscussion

2000-08-28 Thread J. Atwood

 By the way, if I now create a forum with ZUBB, are there any expected
 migration problems when I upgrade it to your next release?

Ummm... ahem no? That is actually one of the things keeping the release
back. Mr. Harris did some fine work but it does not upgrade very easily so I
am trying to figure out how to include all / some of his functionality as
well as be able to upgrade (since I am running a lot of production boards
that I do not want to wipe out).

I would say to play with the current release, get to know it and I will
figure out how to make a mostly painless upgrade path.

J


 
 Thanks again for your work on this.
 
 Best regards
 J Esteves
 
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Re: [Zope] Newbie question: FORM processing in Zope.

2000-08-28 Thread J. Atwood

Easy and hard answer.

The easy answer is forget what you know about scripts/cgi and pulling in
form variables from some sort of CGI method (perl module). Since Zope is a
constant running process it does not require that you point to a script.

Hard Answer: The basics are that all you have to do is give the form element
a name (as you would in any form) and point the action of the form to
another DTML Method/Document. In that M/D all you have to do to get the
variable is call it with DTML-VAR variable_name

1) Create a form page with 'submit' with one text input box with a name of
'email_address'.

2) Point the action to a method called 'result' and create that

3) In the 'result' method include this code dtml-var email_address

4) Play around.

When you submit from one you should be taken to the second page and the
email_address should be there.

Now, for validation you can do all sorts of tricky things. I happen to like
to have the form point back to itself and have one method handle the entire
activity. You can validate things by asking for them, or trying to do
something else like put them into a database/email. If they are not there
you will get an error so you can use dtml-try. What makes Zope great is
that I can have the form and function in the same page (easier to
update/check).

Examples: (these are live and in production so please be kind)

http://fundraising.gotschool.com/tell_a_friend.html

http://market.gotschool.com/  (click on register for either school or
supplier and notice how the form is different for both).

Same thing done twice.

J

 From: Amit Redij [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:15:03 +0530
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Newbie question: FORM processing in Zope.
 
 
 hi,
 
 I am a Perl/CGI programmer, trying out Zope.
 I am confused right now about
 HOW TO process FORM variables?
 and most important thing is
 how to validate form inputs.(like same thing is best done in PERL using
 regex)
 
 that is, if I have a html having some form variables and a submit
 button. I click on the submit button. it should call some script..right?
 My question is how to pass values from one script to another. how is
 this done in Zope?
 
 thanks a lot in advance.
 
 regards
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Re: [Zope] Advice for new zope installation

2000-08-28 Thread J. Atwood

 From: "Henk Schets" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:08:44 +0200
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Advice for new zope installation
 - how easy and reliably can I manage my virtual hosts (about 8 sites
 right now) ? Very important.

Much easier than you can imagine. I have 5 sites (different domains) right
now running off of one installation and I can't tell you how much easier it
has made my life. I can 'manage' into the root of the installation and play
with all the sites. Any products I install can be used on all of them and
yet to the outside user they are all totally different. I am moving over 3
more so within a few months should be at 8.

 - how stable is Zope regarding to Apache on Linux ?

Very. Most of my Linux boxes stay up forever (150+ days and counting). Zope
is harder to tell since you have to restart it with some products. Out of
the 4 or 5 Zope instances I have running they all stay up as long as I don't
reboot them (usually 30-50 days). Plus, since you can configure Zope to
watch its own process you are doubly sure it will stay up. Apache is well,
bulletproof.

 - we have a MySql database, is it easy to connect with Zope ?

Haven't done it but PostgreSQL is a bit tough on the install (a half day)
but very stable after that.

 - can I access the Zope internal database with e.g. ODBC ?

Nope. Not that kind of database. Think more flat file.

 - can I use log analyzers to get some statistics about our site ?

Oh yes. I find that Zope alone (no Apache) produces the best logs. it is CLF
so most log analyzers will get it. I use Analog and it is great.
(http://www.analog.cx).

 - any advice about migrating an existing site ?

There is a program call LoadSite (look on Zope.org) But that only gets you
half way there. I would suggest that you start from scratch but you will
soon see that since Zope is so good at content management and design it will
be much easier to move over lots of data and you will learn new and better
ways of displaying it.

J


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Re: [Zope] 2.2.1 and zdiscussion

2000-08-26 Thread J. Atwood

It is a known bug and will be squashed in the next release (pretty 
major thanks to Mr. Harris). Stay tuned.

J-

At 2:58 PM +0100 8/26/2000, J M Cerqueira Esteves wrote:
Hi

On Sat, Aug 26, 2000 at 12:20:29PM +0800, Bak @ kedai wrote:
  hi
  a clean install won't start properly  with ZDiscussion product install.  the
  same thing also with ZDiscussion based classes created.

There is a missing comma in the definition of __ac_permissions__ in class
ZDItem (file ZDiscussions.py):

 __ac_permissions__ = (
 ('Manage properties', ('manage_addProperty',
'manage_editProperties',
'manage_delProperties',
'manage_changeProperties',))
 )


Just add a comma before the last parenthesis:

 __ac_permissions__ = (
 ('Manage properties', ('manage_addProperty',
'manage_editProperties',
'manage_delProperties',
'manage_changeProperties',)),
 )

In this way, __ac_permissions__ becomes a tuple of permissions (one, in
this case), as it should be.

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[Zope] OT: Website design / spec / development resources

2000-08-26 Thread J. Atwood

Hey Zopers,

I am looking for some good guidelines in designing, spec'ing and 
developing large complex websites. Anything like guidelines, steps, 
howtos, etc would be much appreciates. From theory to practice.

Thanks,
J

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Re: [Zope] Where do I find out about cookies?

2000-08-24 Thread J. Atwood

No How-Tos on Cookies?

how about http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/cookies/

(I had forgotten to request it to be cataloged now down).

Enjoy,
J



 From: Jean Jordaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:53:10 +0200
 To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Where do I find out about cookies?
 
 Hi Zopers
 
 It looks like I'm going to be using cookies now, and I don't find any
 How-To on cookies. What's the most instructive place to look? "UTSL" is
 fine as an answer, especially if it points me somewhere, and even more
 if it's DTML source ..
 
 The *ZQR* is a bit too cryptic for me. The *DTML Ref* has a bit more::
 
 8. Dictionaries are objects that support looking of data by name
 (e.g. REQUEST.cookies['CUST_ID'] to look up a cookie named CUST_ID).
 Dictionaries have has_key methods for checking whether a dictionary
 contains a value (e.g. REQUEST.cookies.has_key('CUST_ID') ) and
 methods keys , values , and items , for updating lists of dictionary
 keys, values, and key-value pairs (e.g. REQUEST.cookies.keys() to
 obtain a list of cookie names).
 
 .. but I don't understand yet how 'keys', 'values' and 'items' are going
 to help me *update* the lists -- it seems to refer only to querying
 them, AFAICS .. 
 
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 Mosaic Software--Zope 2.1.6 on WinNT and W2K
 
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Re: [Zope] Stupid SiteAccess Question

2000-08-23 Thread J. Atwood

You should have two things in your "Available Objects" menu.

Set Access Rule
Site Root

Those are the ones you need to do it.

http://www.zope.org/Members/4am/SiteAccess2/info

Good luck,
J

 From: Terry Babbey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:57:45 -0400
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 Subject: [Zope] Stupid SiteAccess Question
 
 OK. I just downloaded SiteAccess 2.0.0b3 and untarred it in my Zope
 directory. I shutdown and restarted Zope but when I go to Control
 Panel/Manage Products I do not see SiteAccess listed. AM I missing
 something here ( quite probable )?
 Terry
 
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Re: [Zope] Broken Site Access and domain name capitalization?

2000-08-21 Thread J. Atwood

That is what I thought (believe it or not). I was wondering if anyone had
done it or figured out another solution. Will try it this morning (tough to
do since can't deal with versions).

J

 From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: New Information Paradigms
 Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 17:18:20 +0100
 To: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: [Zope] Broken Site Access and domain name capitalization?
 
 "J. Atwood" wrote:
 So my question is to I have to add all the variants of the domain
 name to the virtual_host method or is there a way to simply lowercase
 the HTTP_HOST before checking it?
 
 string.lower()? ;-)
 
 cheers,
 
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[Zope] Broken Site Access and domain name capitalization?

2000-08-20 Thread J. Atwood

I just started messing around with some of my Domain names trying 
caps in the name and broke right through the Site Access product.

So my question is to I have to add all the variants of the domain 
name to the virtual_host method or is there a way to simply lowercase 
the HTTP_HOST before checking it? Anyone done this or shall I forge 
ahead?

Thanks,
J

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Re: [Zope] Zope is very slow!

2000-08-17 Thread J. Atwood

Hi Christiano (nice first message... :)  )

First of all, lets define slow. What does slow mean? Have you tested it with
AB (apachebench)? You sure it is not your connection? Watched it in TOP? My
guess is that with 2.1.6 (straight) on that system you should be able to get
about 200 requests per second which is not SLOW at all.

Check your Apache, Proxycache and SiteAccess my guess it is there.

Turn off debugging.

Upgrade to 2.2.1 (60% faster on dual processors).

Take a look at 

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/benchmarks.html to get an idea of
what you system should be doing.

Just some suggestions.

J

 From: Christiano Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:12:00 -0300 (BRT)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Zope is very slow!
 
 Hi,
 
 This is my first message to the list...
 
 I'm currently running Zope 2.1.6 + Apache 1.3.12 (with proxycache). The
 system is a Solaris 5.6 on a E450 with 2GB Ram and 2 X 450mhz...
 
 The Zope is running with Apache, using the ProxyCache and SiteAccess to
 convert all requests from port 8080 to 80.
 
 My problem is: The system is *too slowly*!
 
 Does anyone know how to optimize the Zope to run quicker? Is there
 anything wrong with this configuration??
 
 Thanks a lot,
 
 Christiano Anderson
 
 
 
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Re: [Zope] Zope is very slow!

2000-08-17 Thread J. Atwood

I am pretty sure (61%) that in the original release of 2.2.0 there was
something about a speed increase. One talked about on single processor
(20-40%) and the other was dual processor (60-80%). It partly has to do with
that "one line of magic code" in the z2.py.

Ethan? Paul? DC? Care to shed some light?

J

 From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: New Information Paradigms
 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:15:57 +0100
 To: Andy McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope is very slow!
 
 Andy McKay wrote:
 
 Upgrade to 2.2.1 (60% faster on dual processors).
 
 Really? I didnt see anything about this in the Changes file... has something
 else changed I didnt see? I noticed that 2.1.6 wasnt making the best use of
 dual processors.
 
 I thought only ZEO would make good use fo dual processors?
 
 Chris
 


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Re: [Zope] Zope and VirtualHost

2000-08-17 Thread J. Atwood

 From: William JOYE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:06:08 +0200
 To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope and VirtualHost
 
 Are there restrictions or problems to use SiteAccess ?

I have been using it for a couple of different sites (2 served off of one
Zope and 5 served off another) and it has been pretty good. There are few
products that are not crazy about it (breadcrumbs) but there are easy work
arounds. I think Zope.org is now using it for dev.zope.org

J


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Re: [Zope] Zope is very slow!

2000-08-17 Thread J. Atwood

I have limited experience with ProxyPass. I have many Zope installations
(2.1.4, 2.1.6, 2.2.0b2, 2.2.0) on all sorts of different hardware
configurations (all RH Linux) and non of them are slow. Most are running
just plain ZServer but one (and the most hit) is running behind Apache with
Zope.cgi. I suggest trying that and seeing if it makes a difference.

J

 From: Christiano Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:36:42 -0300 (BRT)
 To: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope is very slow!
 
 
 Hi J,
 
 Thanks a lot for replying my message! :)
 
 Do you have any example of the best Apache and ProxyCache configuration to
 running zope?
 
 My configuration looks like this:
 
 IfModule mod_proxy.c
 ProxyRequests On
 #ProxyReceiveBufferSize 65536
 ProxyReceiveBufferSize 0
 CacheRoot "/www/proxycache"
 CacheSize 5000
 CacheGcInterval 1
 CacheMaxExpire 48
 CacheLastModifiedFactor 0.1
 CacheDefaultExpire 5
 ProxyPass /paginas/ http://200.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/
 ProxyPass /p_/ http://200.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/p_/
 ProxyPass /misc_/ http://200.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/misc_/
 ProxyPassReverse /paginas/ http://200.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/
 ProxyPassReverse /p_/ http://200.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/p_/
 ProxyPassReverse /misc_/ http://200.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/misc_/
 
 The TOP result is:
 
 Memory: 2048M real, 524M free, 7184K swap in use, 2041M swap free
 
 PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATE   TIMECPU COMMAND
 8035 nobody11  310   13M   13M cpu0  174:10 29.70% python
 
 
 Only the Zope pages are slowly... The Apache is working properly...
 
 Thanks a lot for any help,
 
 Christiano
 
 
 On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, J. Atwood wrote:
 
 Hi Christiano (nice first message... :)  )
 
 First of all, lets define slow. What does slow mean? Have you tested it with
 AB (apachebench)? You sure it is not your connection? Watched it in TOP? My
 guess is that with 2.1.6 (straight) on that system you should be able to get
 about 200 requests per second which is not SLOW at all.
 
 Check your Apache, Proxycache and SiteAccess my guess it is there.
 
 Turn off debugging.
 
 Upgrade to 2.2.1 (60% faster on dual processors).
 
 Take a look at 
 
 http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/benchmarks.html to get an idea of
 what you system should be doing.
 
 Just some suggestions.
 
 J
 
 From: Christiano Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:12:00 -0300 (BRT)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Zope is very slow!
 
 Hi,
 
 This is my first message to the list...
 
 I'm currently running Zope 2.1.6 + Apache 1.3.12 (with proxycache). The
 system is a Solaris 5.6 on a E450 with 2GB Ram and 2 X 450mhz...
 
 The Zope is running with Apache, using the ProxyCache and SiteAccess to
 convert all requests from port 8080 to 80.
 
 My problem is: The system is *too slowly*!
 
 Does anyone know how to optimize the Zope to run quicker? Is there
 anything wrong with this configuration??
 
 Thanks a lot,
 
 Christiano Anderson
 
 
 
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Re: [Zope] Zserver vs Apache

2000-08-17 Thread J. Atwood

(man this is coming up a lot today)

It is not ZServer vs Apache but ZServer alone or behind Apache. Either way
you are using ZServer.

ZServer will do all of your http requests and as a stand alone server it
will work just fine. It is faster than putting Apache in front of it and is
certainly easier to set up. It does not however offer SSL (think there is a
product for this) and if you are in a mixed environment (meaning you don't
control the webserver) it is easier to put behind Apache (many ways). I have
a couple different sites doing to both ways. I, PERSONALLY, like ZServer
alone. I find the logging situation better, the speed better and is less
things running on the server.

J

 From: Corey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 09:57:00 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Zserver vs Apache
 
 I keep seeming to notice that the docs are constantly referring
 to Zserver as the recomended choice for the http backend. Why
 is this?  Should I not attempt to integrate our Apache server
 with Zope, and simply use Zserver instead?
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Corey
 
 
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[Zope] Re: Zope appears to be busy ;-)

2000-08-17 Thread J. Atwood

30% is not bad... depends on what it is doing and for how much time. My
experience is that it can pop up to as much as 90% (on a slower CPU like 166
Mhz) but only for a split second. At idle (no one doing anything) it should
be using no CPU.

PID USER PRI  NI TSIZE  SIZE SWAP  RSS SHARE STAT  LIB %CPU %MEM  CTIME
COMMAND
23344 nobody 0   0   403 58876 1284  56M  1280 S   0  0.0 22.3
22:33 python
23347 nobody 0   0   403 58876 1284  56M  1280 S   0  0.0 22.3
0:00 python
23348 nobody 0   0   403 58876 1284  56M  1280 S   0  0.0 22.3
23:46 python
23349 nobody 0   0   403 58876 1284  56M  1280 S   0  0.0 22.3
16:47 python
23350 nobody 0   0   403 58876 1284  56M  1280 S   0  0.0 22.3
28:55 python
23351 nobody 0   0   403 58876 1284  56M  1280 S   0  0.0 22.3
12:24 python

Like that.

J

 From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: New Information Paradigms
 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:54:17 +0100
 To: Christiano Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Zope appears to be busy ;-)
 
 Christiano Anderson wrote:
 The TOP result is:
 
 Memory: 2048M real, 524M free, 7184K swap in use, 2041M swap free
 
 PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATE   TIMECPU COMMAND
 8035 nobody11  310   13M   13M cpu0  174:10 29.70% python
 
 30% seems qutie high to me.
 
 What are your Zope pages doing and how many people are hitting them?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Chris
 


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[Zope] Newbie Q from non-Newbie: Where does my HTML go?

2000-08-16 Thread J. Atwood

Why does EX1 return the raw text (and shows the html) and the second returns
the html (nicely) into the page?

EX1:

dtml-var expr="_.whrandom.choice(tips.objectValues())"


EX2:

dtml-in "tips.objectValues()"
dtml-var sequence-item
/dtml-in


Better way to do EX1?

Thanks,
J


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Re: [Zope] Newbie Q from non-Newbie: Where does my HTML go?

2000-08-16 Thread J. Atwood

Dead on balls accurate. Works like a charm.

Thanks Chris.

(now have to figure out why I couldn't figure that out!) :)

J

 From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: New Information Paradigms
 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:17:01 +0100
 To: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Newbie Q from non-Newbie: Where does my HTML go?
 
 "J. Atwood" wrote:
 EX1:
 
 dtml-var expr="_.whrandom.choice(tips.objectValues())"
 
 untested...
 
 dtml-var expr="_.whrandom.choice(tips.objectValues())(_.None,_)"
 
 cheers,
 
 Chris
 


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Re: [Zope] Speeding up Zope by disabling logging of hits

2000-08-11 Thread J. Atwood

One of the settings in your z2.py is below. You could play around with that.

J

  -M file

Save detailed logging information to the given file.
This log includes separate entries for:

  - The start of a request,
  - The start of processing the request in an application thread,
  - The start of response output, and
  - The end of the request.


 From: David Trudgett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:31:50 -1000
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Speeding up Zope by disabling logging of hits
 
 I'm using zope behind a front-end server and don't require any logging of
 hits. Is there a way to disable Zserver hit logging to increase speed and
 decrease disk utilisation? (I suppose I can send output to /dev/null, but
 that doesn't stop the logging code from being executed, and I would also
 lose error logging.) Even better would be the ability to disable logging
 based on IP address of the requester.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: [Zope] need some basic help

2000-08-11 Thread J. Atwood

1) Log in as the superuser
2) go to acl_users and create a new user with manage role/group
3) Log out and shutdown/reboot your browser
4) Log back in as the new user

Everything else should easy.

J

 From: Dan Huston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:09:35 -0700 (MST)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] need some basic help
 
 Hello Folks,
 
 So I downloaded Zope and installed it on my sun box and on my nt box.  I
 can go to the manage page as the admin and it all looks like it installed
 fine.
 
 So I tried to create a folder but the superuser cannot own a folder it
 says.  So I figure I can create a folder in the zope dir as one of the
 users I have defined, but then how do I add objects to that folder?  The
 only login that works at the manage page is the admin password.  Is there
 a different page for users to go to that is similar to the manage page?  I
 can believe that the admin would have to add all of the objects as that
 would seem un-Zope-ish.  I have looked at a lot of docs but they were
 either so basic as not to address hands on stuff (devshed) or advanced
 enough that it was assumed that you could do this simple task.  Can
 someone straighten me out?
 
 Thanks,
 Dan
 
 
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Re: [Zope] Zope - long running process

2000-08-11 Thread J. Atwood

There is a switch in z2.py that allows you to point to a PID file. It will
automatically restart your Zope installation once it goes down (if).

Like so... (start script)

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#! /bin/sh
reldir=`dirname $0`
PYTHONHOME=`cd $reldir; pwd`
export PYTHONHOME
exec /usr/local/zope/bin/python \
 $PYTHONHOME/z2.py \
 -w80 -Z /usr/local/zope/var/Z2.pid "$@"

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It is the -Z /usr/local/zope/var/Z2.pid part.

Do a more on your z2.py and check out all the options.

J

 From: George [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: OK Studio
 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 01:10:53 +1000
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Zope - long running process
 
 Could someone please explain how to make sure ZOPE does not stop working
 and if it does then it restarts again? My platform is FreeBSD 4.0
 -stable. Do I use CRON ? Do I turn the debug option off to detach ZOPE
 from the terminal it was started from?
 
 Regards,
 George
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[Zope] Requested Zope feature

2000-08-09 Thread J. Atwood

A lot of the time I end up going into a document/folder/method just so I can
click on the 'view' tab popping up a new window so I can see it (option
click / right click).

It would be very nice if DC could add a icon (or take over the existing
icon) to pop a new window with the object ( a target="top" href="object"  )
so you could view the object without having to edit it. This would save
about 2 steps for something that, personally, I do all the time. The link to
the object would still be for editing it.

Just a thought.

Thanks,
J


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[Zope] How do I count children?

2000-08-03 Thread J. Atwood


So In ZUBB (my discussion product) I want to be able to show how many
replies there have been to any one main topic. All replies are 'children' of
the main post and when I state it with

dtml-tree branches=children
Stuff
/dtml-tree

It works and knows that each message is a child of the message.

When in go through a searchResult to list the message I want to  show many
replies there are to that message.

Q: How do I count the 'children' of any one onject?

Thanks,
J


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