Re: [Zope] zope.org dead?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/2017 05:33 PM, Miguel Beltran R. wrote: > zope.org dead? Thanks for the report. I have CC'ed the infrastructure team's mailing list . Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design"http://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJYtjN3AAoJEPKpaDSJE9HYjJcP/jyWYhf1GgNGGYs/Wk1YH0kQ YeZthvOepLHu9recWMD5eM47RyYSV5OA6jgU9QvUKdHAF2V7Fw5VCdH2KNcAcr76 9P0JOqhvGLMBFw1tHJR82Dr0j61AjVoGEf0Efwjvf+cNVklxy7sfKzU5CXE9/LEq wlaRZZ2LT7ifao8Vo6DNBTqO8+bNYYFB7gy/VyxcdQPkak+R1tuWxfQmGFhPC6B6 y8n08ZKxBmfVSY03lyt2SkBGu6DVkw+kfoPNy1KCP8qN5qijxtOKFNCihrfkf6hP j5dXr4GFfxhnUHmDRmZ51dlZVNUJucw01Fo/dDhVa31C+xF0Gpp2e/wd3qzzQ5mR H2cR7GIIBQ+X0M9zicXKpYaZsLB0XJJQ17IKyM9AbEK6fOymIL7/6ycGzdJsogup TNENIWAuSLT5pTe9aUl73onEvvR9ytSbdq/b0RUXimCOoXl+QCJPdcT8pMIiFNDi 7qNZoD3/IOlOPvMDjVCTKpAtMTN9o5Ly9dcoNjirHlLNGN3eHblz1d3SF0Iv/AG5 Z9LDv2ig3d4QtvZOiyvj6pKaihDMF9Mh4EUF5YGB3TwT6EL6XPPCCiG8LjefePvu t13y5Rjw0V6uQGPa814edjH+DvlLgZrrX9lZLfW7ebCA1ZZH6wbXsB2SWKDXiKi8 HyEv4DYVq/nBaiN8LLo/ =/M2o -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] zope.org dead?
zope.org dead? -- Lo bueno de vivir un dia mas es saber que nos queda un dia menos de vida ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/11/2014 05:12 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: There are two problems with HTTPS on mail.zope.org: our own certificate is expired, and the issuer (StartCom) has an intermediate certificate which expired even longer ago: http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html#hostname=mail.zope.org/ I have added a new certificate and updated the intermediates. Chromium is now happy with https://mail.zope.org/, as is SSL Shopper: http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html#hostname=mail.zope.org but Firefox will likely be unhappy over the next 6 - 12 hours due to OCSP propagation delay: https://forum.startcom.org/viewtopic.php?f=15t=2654 Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlMiHF0ACgkQ+gerLs4ltQ5giwCffH3MtWl2prY3zS3t+mKZqTac PHgAoKoiT8hqPKqiCaf45MH5qYGRj7ki =ZOzo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..
It might be better if the whole zope project is handed over to somebody willing to move it forward. It’s pretty obvious the various parts that make up the community like mailing lists, website, forums etc have been dead or dying for a long time. Will Zope ever get back to 2005-2006 levels…? See : http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=zope Rich On 11 Mar 2014, at 23:07, Sean Upton sdup...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: When I try to visit the mailing list web interface, Firefox is stopped in its tracks by Secure Connection Failed An error occurred during a connection to mail.zope.org. The OCSP server has no status for the certificate. (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert) There are two problems with HTTPS on mail.zope.org: our own certificate is expired, and the issuer (StartCom) has an intermediate certificate which expired even longer ago: http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html#hostname=mail.zope.org/ I hope there is some luck folks having with resolving this. One can always take the approach Jim took with ZODB-dev, moving it to Google Groups, but there is real value in the archives regardless of where the current lists live. And the archives are de-facto inaccessible now -- if nothing else, the archives could be hosted on any static HTTP site and would not need any SSL/TLS/certificate burden. Sean ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..
On 12 Mar 2014, at 10:05, zopyxfil...@gmail.com wrote: Rich Harley wrote: It might be better if the whole zope project is handed over to somebody willing to move it forward. The whole Zope project is as open as an open-source project can be. It’s not that Zope isn’t as open source as it can be, it’s that anyone building a new application will not use Zope, which is clearly a problem for longevity since in another 3 years there will be even less people using Zope as more and more legacy applications get rewritten. Personally we are very embedded with Zope 2.11. It’s excellent for what we are using it for and we are incredibly grateful of the community that built that product over the last 10 years. We use Zope in a very simple way for just holding python code, handling roles and connecting out to a Postgres DB but there are other frameworks which would do the same thing in a leaner way now. Still, we are not looking to rewrite because it does what we need well, although the version control is more hassle than it should be. What is the problem here? The problem is how to attract new developers to rebuild a Zope fit for life from 2015+. That would mean making the framework more modern in every sense but still retaining the features that made Zope great in the past like excellent security handling and a quick development cycle. This is not an easy task and would probably involve some rebranding as the Zope name is now associated with an old framework. The decade of the large application servers and frameworks is over. Possibly but Zope could have moved with the times and evolved with the momentum it had 5 years ago instead of being usurped by frameworks like Django and Turbogears which any python dev would choose over Zope in a heartbeat these days if they wanted to build a scalable application. This is what needs to be addressed - or is it your opinion that Zope will die and there’s nothing we can do about it? That seems a shame to me. Rich It’s pretty obvious the various parts that make up the community like mailing lists, website, forums etc have been dead or dying for a long time. Will Zope ever get back to 2005-2006 levels…? See : http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=zope -aj ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..
On 12 Mar 2014, at 11:08, zopyxfil...@gmail.com wrote: Rich Harley wrote: On 12 Mar 2014, at 10:05, zopyxfil...@gmail.com wrote: Rich Harley wrote: It might be better if the whole zope project is handed over to somebody willing to move it forward. The whole Zope project is as open as an open-source project can be. It’s not that Zope isn’t as open source as it can be, Why? I am not disputing Zope is/was a great open source project. The problem is how to attract new developers to rebuild a Zope fit for life from 2015+. That would mean making the framework more modern in every sense but still retaining the features that made Zope great in the past like excellent security handling and a quick development cycle. This is not an easy task and would probably involve some rebranding as the Zope name is now associated with an old framework. The decade of the large application servers and frameworks is over. Possibly but Zope could have moved with the times and evolved with the momentum it had 5 years ago instead of being usurped by frameworks like Django and Turbogears which any python dev would choose over Zope in a heartbeat these days if they wanted to build a scalable application. This is what needs to be addressed - or is it your opinion that Zope will die and there’s nothing we can do about it? That seems a shame to me. Zope lives as long as someone uses it (Plone uses it). Plone is going the same way of declining usage and development over the last 3-5 years. Apart from that: the project live from the contributions and contributors. The Zope world is kind of a legacy and it is unlikely at this will change. Keep it alive somehow to the point as you need by taking over responsibility. Do you step up for a particular task? Good response:) No I don’t step up right now, too busy with our own codebase. But we would love to take the project forward in the future when we are a bigger company. Is the Zope 4 project still alive that was talked about in 2011? Andreas ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..
You were misunderstanding me, I am not claiming that. I said It’s not that Zope isn’t as open source as it can be, it’s that anyone building a new application will not use Zope” I am saying there is nothing wrong with the open sourceness of Zope. That wasn’t very clear, apologies. My concerns are solely around Zope moving forward over the next few years and how we can best achieve a community feel around Zope - or a deviate of Zope -once again. Rich On 12 Mar 2014, at 11:43, zopyxfil...@gmail.com wrote: Rich Harley wrote: On 12 Mar 2014, at 11:08, zopyxfil...@gmail.com wrote: Rich Harley wrote: On 12 Mar 2014, at 10:05, zopyxfil...@gmail.com wrote: Rich Harley wrote: It might be better if the whole zope project is handed over to somebody willing to move it forward. The whole Zope project is as open as an open-source project can be. It’s not that Zope isn’t as open source as it can be, Why? I am not disputing Zope is/was a great open source project. Why do you claim that Zope is not as open as it can be? What is missing? Where is Zope not open? Please be specific. -aj ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/11/2014 05:12 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: Our SPF record says that mail should only be coming from them, so Google is bouncing those messages. We need either to fix it so that mail comes from the 'mail.zope.org' IP, or else add the other host to our MX list. I just double-checked, and the SPF record looks right: - % -- $ dig -t TXT zope.org ; DiG 9.8.1-P1 -t TXT zope.org ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 34927 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;zope.org. IN TXT ;; ANSWER SECTION: zope.org. 600 IN TXT v=spf1 mx a:cvs.zope.org a:grok.zope.org a:hetzner04.zopefoundation.org -all - % -- The 'hetzner04.zopefoundation.org' IP is the one that list mail appears to come from: it should pass the SPF check. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlMgeyoACgkQ+gerLs4ltQ4aaACfX3KaslKix4YzVqMraqc63hTx TuMAn280TrBCo7JU3UYOmrT+/JVpBlbE =8m8Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope.org fading away ..
Hi all I've been unsubscribed from the Zope mailing lists due to excessive bounces. So for some reason despite my clicking ignore, I trust this message 100s of times, gmail doesn't like the mails zope.org sends. When I try to visit the mailing list web interface, Firefox is stopped in its tracks by Secure Connection Failed An error occurred during a connection to mail.zope.org. The OCSP server has no status for the certificate. (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert) When I try to use the Kontakt (sic) form at http://zope.org/, it pops up an empty div: div class=pb-ajaxdiv/div/div. -- jean . .. //\\\oo///\\ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/11/2014 01:39 AM, Jean Jordaan wrote: I've been unsubscribed from the Zope mailing lists due to excessive bounces. So for some reason despite my clicking ignore, I trust this message 100s of times, gmail doesn't like the mails zope.org sends. Some mail appears to be coming from a host (hetzner04.zopefoundation.org) which is not one of our MX hosts: $ dig -t MX zope.org ... ;; ANSWER SECTION: zope.org. 600 IN MX 0 mail.zope.org. zope.org. 600 IN MX 5 mail2.zope.org. Our SPF record says that mail should only be coming from them, so Google is bouncing those messages. We need either to fix it so that mail comes from the 'mail.zope.org' IP, or else add the other host to our MX list. When I try to visit the mailing list web interface, Firefox is stopped in its tracks by Secure Connection Failed An error occurred during a connection to mail.zope.org. The OCSP server has no status for the certificate. (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert) There are two problems with HTTPS on mail.zope.org: our own certificate is expired, and the issuer (StartCom) has an intermediate certificate which expired even longer ago: http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html#hostname=mail.zope.org/ When I try to use the Kontakt (sic) form at http://zope.org/, it pops up an empty div: div class=pb-ajaxdiv/div/div. Ugh, I don't recall now where the software lives for that. CC'ing the infrastructure list to verify. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlMffFEACgkQ+gerLs4ltQ62CQCeMV2/kkHD8zPUGdBfQUgoAgMN oj0AoITHdNoJdtTDtvBIv6exqmDIgLbm =F6dx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: When I try to visit the mailing list web interface, Firefox is stopped in its tracks by Secure Connection Failed An error occurred during a connection to mail.zope.org. The OCSP server has no status for the certificate. (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert) There are two problems with HTTPS on mail.zope.org: our own certificate is expired, and the issuer (StartCom) has an intermediate certificate which expired even longer ago: http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html#hostname=mail.zope.org/ I hope there is some luck folks having with resolving this. One can always take the approach Jim took with ZODB-dev, moving it to Google Groups, but there is real value in the archives regardless of where the current lists live. And the archives are de-facto inaccessible now -- if nothing else, the archives could be hosted on any static HTTP site and would not need any SSL/TLS/certificate burden. Sean ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..
On Tue, 2014-03-11 at 17:07 -0600, Sean Upton wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: When I try to visit the mailing list web interface, Firefox is stopped in its tracks by Secure Connection Failed An error occurred during a connection to mail.zope.org. The OCSP server has no status for the certificate. (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert) There are two problems with HTTPS on mail.zope.org: our own certificate is expired, and the issuer (StartCom) has an intermediate certificate which expired even longer ago: http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html#hostname=mail.zope.org/ I hope there is some luck folks having with resolving this. One can always take the approach Jim took with ZODB-dev, moving it to Google Groups, but there is real value in the archives regardless of where the current lists live. And the archives are de-facto inaccessible now -- if nothing else, the archives could be hosted on any static HTTP site and would not need any SSL/TLS/certificate burden. +1 Sean ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- programmatic web development di(fh) johannes raggam / thet python plone zope development plone framework team member mail: off...@programmatic.pro web: http://programmatic.pro http://bluedynamics.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..
On Tue, 2014-03-11 at 17:12 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: On 03/11/2014 01:39 AM, Jean Jordaan wrote: When I try to use the Kontakt (sic) form at http://zope.org/, it pops up an empty div: div class=pb-ajaxdiv/div/div. Ugh, I don't recall now where the software lives for that. CC'ing the infrastructure list to verify. i've done the zope.org implementation together with michael haubenwallner in 2010. it's a Plone 4 website. since then, not much happened. i'd be happy to get some help with maintaining this. this is the theme/integration package: https://github.com/d2m/plonetheme.zopeorg and here is the buildout: http://svn.zope.org/zopeorg.buildout/branches/www.zope.org/ -- programmatic web development di(fh) johannes raggam / thet python plone zope development plone framework team member mail: off...@programmatic.pro web: http://programmatic.pro http://bluedynamics.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] zope.org
Gaute Amundsen wrote: Actually, I am starting to think there should be a big notice on the frontpage of the http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ section saying: don't bother with this, just read the source There's actually some merit to this, anyone mind if I implement? 0.5 wink Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[ZWeb] Re: [Zope] Zope.org = Zope.com?
Someone fat-fingered the cache configuration. It has been fixed afaik. Jim Chris Withers wrote: Hi Jim, Did anyone ever get to the bottom of this? cheers, Chris Chris Withers wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: On 4/3/06, Andreas Krasa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it seems that currently all HTTP requests to www.zope.org and dev.zope.org are forwarded to www.zope.com. Seems to work now. At least for me. This is still happening intermittently for some people. Jim has raised it with the guys who host zope.org... cheers, Chris -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [Zope] Zope.org = Zope.com?
On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 07:23:52AM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: Someone fat-fingered the cache configuration. It has been fixed afaik. I still get the zope.com site here when trying to reach www.zope.org (might be a cached redirect in my browser though) -- __ Nothing is as subjective as reality Reinoud van Leeuwen[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xs4all.nl/~reinoud __ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org = Zope.com?
Hi Jim, Did anyone ever get to the bottom of this? cheers, Chris Chris Withers wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: On 4/3/06, Andreas Krasa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it seems that currently all HTTP requests to www.zope.org and dev.zope.org are forwarded to www.zope.com. Seems to work now. At least for me. This is still happening intermittently for some people. Jim has raised it with the guys who host zope.org... cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org = Zope.com?
Someone fat-fingered the cache configuration. It has been fixed afaik. Jim Chris Withers wrote: Hi Jim, Did anyone ever get to the bottom of this? cheers, Chris Chris Withers wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: On 4/3/06, Andreas Krasa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it seems that currently all HTTP requests to www.zope.org and dev.zope.org are forwarded to www.zope.com. Seems to work now. At least for me. This is still happening intermittently for some people. Jim has raised it with the guys who host zope.org... cheers, Chris -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope.org = Zope.com?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello everybody, it seems that currently all HTTP requests to www.zope.org and dev.zope.org are forwarded to www.zope.com. I find it hard to believe that this is a desired behavior... But if yes, where can Zope itself and Zope products be downloaded? The Zope.com site contains tons of nice eye-candy and marketing-yadayada but no resources for developers whatsoever. Regards, Andreas Krasa :: Andreas Krasa WU ZID Information Center :: fon: +43/1/31336/6996 Augasse 2-6 1090 Wien .at :: fax: +43/1/31336/789 :: icq: 2059600 :: pgp key-id: 0xDA178BDC -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQFEMO42fmH5mdoXi9wRAmORAJ0QzixhttxVnX/3N0er70AgWMB15wCcDyHd ufTmW/NYj8N6WIUCkyeZBYo= =DdsT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org = Zope.com?
On 4/3/06, Andreas Krasa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it seems that currently all HTTP requests to www.zope.org and dev.zope.org are forwarded to www.zope.com. Seems to work now. At least for me. -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org = Zope.com?
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 4/3/06, Andreas Krasa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it seems that currently all HTTP requests to www.zope.org and dev.zope.org are forwarded to www.zope.com. Seems to work now. At least for me. This is still happening intermittently for some people. Jim has raised it with the guys who host zope.org... cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope.org down?
ERROR The requested URL could not be retrieved While trying to retrieve the URL: http://www.zope.org:8881/Products/ Zope/2.8.3/CHANGES.txt The following error was encountered: Unable to forward this request at this time. This request could not be forwarded to the origin server or to any parent caches. The most likely cause for this error is that: The cache administrator does not allow this cache to make direct connections to origin servers, and All configured parent caches are currently unreachable. Your cache administrator is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Generated Fri, 28 Oct 2005 10:24:17 GMT by cache1.zmh.zope.net (squid/ 2.5.STABLE8) Jake http://www.ZopeZone.com Zoping for the rest of us ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] zope.org site and limited search results
Dear zopistas, few times ago I was few times wrote to ZC webmaster about limited query to Zope Products search results (see attached picture) - in any case it does not find more than 200 results. Nothing to do. If somebody has enough power to initiate zope.org webmaster, please tell him about change number of results from database at advanced tab of appropriate ZSQL method (if it is not defined somewhere else). Note, that old zope site does not has this limit. Many thanks, -- Jaroslav Lukesh --- This e-mail can not contain any viruses because I use Linux attachment: 1.jpg ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zope.org site and limited search results
Jaroslav Lukesh schrieb: Dear zopistas, few times ago I was few times wrote to ZC webmaster about limited query to Zope Products search results (see attached picture) - in any case it does not find more than 200 results. Nothing to do. If somebody has enough power to initiate zope.org webmaster, please tell him about change number of results from database at advanced tab of appropriate ZSQL method (if it is not defined somewhere else). afaic there is no SQL involved in this search. It should be a full ZCatalog query. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zope.org site and limited search results
On 8/16/05, Jaroslav Lukesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear zopistas, few times ago I was few times wrote to ZC webmaster about limited query to Zope Products search results (see attached picture) - in any case it does not find more than 200 results. Nothing to do. If somebody has enough power to initiate zope.org webmaster, please tell him about change number of results from database at advanced tab of appropriate ZSQL method (if it is not defined somewhere else). Note, that old zope site does not has this limit. iirc, that was a hardcoded total. if you go to the end or change the start= (query string), you;ll get more than 200. i might be wrong, but .. Many thanks, -- Jaroslav Lukesh --- This e-mail can not contain any viruses because I use Linux ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- http://myzope.kedai.com.my - my-zope org ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] [zope.org] We want YOU - we need a new installation manual!
FWIW, a good overview of installing Zope 2.7 this has been done in the 2.7 edition of the Zope Book (by Peter Sabaini) at http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition/InstallingZope.stx On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 12:06, Andreas Jung wrote: Hi, the current installation instructions on zope.org http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Misc/InstallingZope.html are totally obsolete. Anyone volunteering to update this document for Zope 2.7? The appreciation of the Zope community will be yours. -aj ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] [zope.org] We want YOU - we need a new installation manual!
Ah...ok, I did not know that there is such a detailed chapter. We will use this for further releases as link to the installation. Thanks, Andreas --On Samstag, 22. Mai 2004 12:11 Uhr -0400 Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, a good overview of installing Zope 2.7 this has been done in the 2.7 edition of the Zope Book (by Peter Sabaini) at http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition/InstallingZope.stx On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 12:06, Andreas Jung wrote: Hi, the current installation instructions on zope.org http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Misc/InstallingZope.html are totally obsolete. Anyone volunteering to update this document for Zope 2.7? The appreciation of the Zope community will be yours. -aj ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) -- Andreas Jung www.zopyx.com Software-Entwicklung und Consulting Andreas Jung ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] I think zope@zope.org is down
Dylan Jay wrote: what's more, mesages to it are not bouncing. Yeah, it's still dead :-( Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] I think zope@zope.org is down
what's more, mesages to it are not bouncing. _ http://entertainment.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Entertainment - Feeling a little bored? Need some entertainment? ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope] zope.org downtime
Zopatistas, Zope.org has suffered a disk failure that evidently our raid array did not correctly recover from. We should be back up shortly in "degraded" mode. I am going to be working on changing things around so that the zeo clients to continue operating in read-only mode even if the storage/ staging server goes down. Once replicated storage comes about, this single point of failure will go away. Thanks for your understanding, -- ethan mindlace fremen zopatista community liason ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] zope@zope.org
Hi, I installed Zope-2.2.5.src on bsdi 3.0, with Python 2.0. Compilation runned fine but when I run ./start I obtain the followinfg error : bash-2.02$ ./start 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/apache/htdocs/commercial/advl/zope/Zope-2.2.5-src/z2.py", line 283, in ? import os, sys, getopt, string ImportError: No module named os start file = #! /bin/sh reldir=`dirname $0` PYTHONHOME=`cd $reldir; pwd` export PYTHONHOME exec /usr/local/bin/python \ $PYTHONHOME/z2.py \ -D "$@" Suggestions? Bye, FR ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] zope@zope.org
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Farrell, Troy wrote: Is it possible this is another issue with 2.0 (I'm no python guru :)? Certainly no. It is just the python caanot import a standard module. Permission or path problem, I am sure. FR, Zope 2.x is designed to work with Python 1.52. Zope 2.3 (currently in beta) works (though not "officially") with 2.0. Oleg. Oleg Broytmann http://www.zope.org/Members/phd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zope@zope.org
At 02:45 PM 1/22/2001 +0100, FR Chalaoux wrote: Hi, I installed Zope-2.2.5.src on bsdi 3.0, with Python 2.0. Compilation runned fine but when I run ./start I obtain the followinfg error : bash-2.02$ ./start 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/apache/htdocs/commercial/advl/zope/Zope-2.2.5-src/z2.py", line 283, in ? import os, sys, getopt, string ImportError: No module named os This would be a Python error and not a Zope error. "os" should be a standard module for Python, but it is not found here. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org is down?
Looks like it from here:( Diego Rodrigo Neufert wrote: Is it realy down? ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope.org is down?
Is it realy down? -- Diego Rodrigo Neufert Webmaster / Web Developer - Magic Web Design --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.magicwebdesign.com.br Curitiba - PR - Brasil ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ZWiki hierarchy seems to be brokenZope Folk zope@zope.org
Timothy Grant writes: However, I seem to have done something somewhere that is preventing the hierarchy headers from showing up on many of the pages. It shows on the first page, and it still shows on all the help pages, but it has disappeared from the pages that I have been adding (They were there for a while). Are you sure, that you Wiki Pages have correct "parent" properties? Dieter ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] zope.org down, my fault
Zopatistas: Never try to scp a file onto itself. Especially if it's your httpd.conf. I'll be back up in a bit. ~ethan ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope.Org: Not a good example...
I've been looking around for examples of certain objects and such. One simple example is a URL object. Zope.Org *has* this object (Link) and it is fairly nifty, even if it isn't documented (ie, it's usage etc.) but I can't find the *source* for this object anywhere! All I want is to be able to have a Link object on my Zope engine, with possibly a minor change or two, but I can't find out where to get it anyplace. This isn't the only example. I have software that I want to distribute, but I can't get the source for the Software Product/Distribution objects either! I can get the source for DTML Documents, but it doesn't do much good if they make extensive use of objects that I can't get the source for. I would like to enter a plea for *someone* at DC/Zope.Org to fix this situation! BTW: I have a better view_source DTML Method: http://docwhat.gerf.org:9673/view_source/view_source Ciao! -- Death is a once in a lifetime experience. The Doctor What: A Holtje Production http://docwhat.gerf.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] KF6VNC ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] zope.org down from Thu Nov 9 12:00:00 GMT 2000 to present?searchablelist archive not linked to from mailman page; console-based zope development.list archive not linked to from mailman page; console-based zope development.
For the past hour and a half I have only once been able to get through to zope.org. lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo is accessible, however. A zope.org-status mailing list might be helpful, like the egroups-status list, since Zope work is so dependent on the site. I've been trying to read product descriptions. Is that information available anywhere else? Second, I thought there was a searchable archive of the zope mailing lists. I just found it in my bookmarks: http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists.html but I was not able to find this link on the lists.zope.org url referenced in the mailing list digests... the list manager might want to change that. Third, I'm trying to figure out ways of managing/developing with Zope from a unix console, using text editors, text browsers and so on. I have no doubt that others would rather not have to use a mouse and GUI to work with Zope. I have already found http://www.zope.org/Members/sf/zopeshell But it says it does not work for 2.2 Could someone please point me to documentation about console-based zope management? If it's easy to find on the zope site, I will find it when I can get through again. thanks, Colin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zope.org down from Thu Nov 9 12:00:00 GMT 2000 to present?searchable list archive not linked to from mailman page; console-based zope development. list archive not linked to from mailman page; console-based zope development.
* Colin Leath [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001109 14:00]: I'm trying to figure out ways of managing/developing with Zope from a unix console, using text editors, text browsers and so on. I often work from emacs, accessing the ZODB through the Zope FTP Server on port 8021. The syntax for ange-ftp is /user@localhost 8021:/your/zope/object (you can get the space with C-q space) seb ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zope.org down from Thu Nov 9 12:00:00 GMT 2000 to present?searchable list archive not linked to from mailman page; console-based zope development. list archive not linked to from mailman page; console-based zope development.
Hi! * Colin Leath [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001109 14:00]: I'm trying to figure out ways of managing/developing with Zope from a unix console, using text editors, text browsers and so on. I often work from emacs, accessing the ZODB through the Zope FTP Server on port 8021. The syntax for ange-ftp is /user@localhost 8021:/your/zope/object (you can get the space with C-q space) There is also ZopeShell: http://www.zope.org/Members/sf/zopeshell and e.g. Cadaver if you want to use filetransfer via webdav (but lost the url unfortunately, but from webdav.org you should be able to find it). My problem though with all these things is that the file you edit is not automatically uploaded when you save it. Usually you always have to quit the editor and do an ftp upload yourself as the ftp (or ZopeShell) always work on a local copy of the file and do not notice if you save it (well, how should they do it anyway ;-)) So some sort of ftp filesystem would be nice to have :) cheers Christian ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope.org down?
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Re: [Zope] Zope.org down?
Works for me. -- E PLURIBUS LINUX ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org down?
At 11/1/00 03:22 PM, Phil Harris wrote: Subject says it all Well, not here but it does seem to have fallen back one or more days. I'm also curious about the zope.org site performance. Zope is said to capable of a million hits per day on commodity hardware, yet zope.org receives only about 20% of that on its busiest days. This would not be remarkable except that the response times from zope.org seem to usually be 10 seconds or so. I am on a T-1 line and 13 hops and 80ms from the zope.org server. -- Dennis Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] zope.org mistake
Um... I inadvertently deleted the Data.fs whilst compressing it. Then I compounded my mistake by not remembering that the storage server still had the inode open, and closed the storage server. I have restored from the compressed version of the Data.fs, but it appears that a day or so of information is missing. Rest assured that I will not be so stupid in the future. Thanks for your patience, -- -mindlace- Zopatista Community Liason ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org down?
Dennis Nichols wrote: At 11/1/00 03:22 PM, Phil Harris wrote: Subject says it all Well, not here but it does seem to have fallen back one or more days. I just sent a message explaining what happened to this list. I'm also curious about the zope.org site performance. Zope is said to capable of a million hits per day on commodity hardware, yet zope.org receives only about 20% of that on its busiest days. This would not be remarkable except that the response times from zope.org seem to usually be 10 seconds or so. I am on a T-1 line and 13 hops and 80ms from the zope.org server. My current tracking shows that zope.org is pretty snappy until the server gets attacked from a bunch of spiders. Because zope.org has a huge quantity of pages (500+MB of (packed) content and climbing), and because objects get loaded into ram as they get accessed, accessing *everything* on the site multiple times causes zope to load things in out a lot, causing it to slow down. IOW, if you have a zope running with, say, 100 mb of content (that's 2048 50 kb pages) on a box with, say 256mb of ram, and you have your caching policy set very liberally, then you should be able to hit 30 requests per second, or 2.5 million hits per day. Zope.org will be on hardware that stretches the notion of "commodity" soon, but it will be sufficient such that all 500mb of our objects can be floating about in ram if need be. This should improve our performance drastically. Hope that helps, -- -mindlace- Zopatista Community Liason ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org down?
mindlace, Check out my company's new HOWTO on an additional way to improve performance: http://www.zope.org/Members/Mamey/mod_gzip On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 11:38:42AM -0500, ethan mindlace fremen wrote: Zope.org will be on hardware that stretches the notion of "commodity" soon, but it will be sufficient such that all 500mb of our objects can be floating about in ram if need be. This should improve our performance drastically. Hope that helps, -- -mindlace- Zopatista Community Liason -- Andres Corrada-Emmanuel Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope.org uptime listed by netcraft
on www.netcraft.com I looked at the list with the websites having the maximum uptime and found - Zope - under the top 10 ! Check it out: http://uptime.netcraft.com/today/top.avg.html phil
[Zope] Zope.org
Hallo, have I missed something or why are there no news on the website.The last item was from the 18th of October.Also the mailing-list is not really busy.Any reason? -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:15:44 -0400, mindlace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy McKay wrote: Of course the only problem with a hit counter is that high traffic requests mean continually writing the object into the ZODB each time it gets hit / downloaded, whatever. Thats why I release FSCounter which uses the file system. I would like to expand this to cover multiple objects... The problem is slightly more complicated than this: We have Apache cache file and image objects. This is a good thing, because they are static, and Apache will *always* be better than Zope at serving static content. This is a bad thing, because direct requests for files don't ever make it to Zope. FYI, there is a (mostly successful) way around this if you dont worry about Zope having to serve up a 304 response for this request. set the following header. Cache-Control: public, s-maxage=0, proxy-revalidate Caches will cache the content, but always revalidate it before using the cached reply. Toby Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter
It would be really nice to know how many people are downloading the
products. This would also be a great feature to add to the actual
Zope distribution. I know you could get this from the logs (easily)
but you could also add a small counter to the product 'view' method,
something along the lines of what is in the Simple Url products (BTW
one of my favorites) and make it something you can turn on or off for
your products.
dtml-call "REQUEST.set('hitcount', hitcount + 1)"
dtml-call "propertysheets.public.manage_editProperties(REQUEST)"
dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect(url)"
Thanks,
J
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Re: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter
Of course the only problem with a hit counter is that high traffic requests
mean continually writing the object into the ZODB each time it gets hit /
downloaded, whatever. Thats why I release FSCounter which uses the file
system. I would like to expand this to cover multiple objects...
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From: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:17 AM
Subject: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter
It would be really nice to know how many people are downloading the
products. This would also be a great feature to add to the actual
Zope distribution. I know you could get this from the logs (easily)
but you could also add a small counter to the product 'view' method,
something along the lines of what is in the Simple Url products (BTW
one of my favorites) and make it something you can turn on or off for
your products.
dtml-call "REQUEST.set('hitcount', hitcount + 1)"
dtml-call "propertysheets.public.manage_editProperties(REQUEST)"
dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect(url)"
Thanks,
J
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Re: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter
Yup... the ZODB does grow with each hit. Not much of course, but some. I am
sure for a site such as Zope.org it would not be unmanageable. They most
certainly have automated ways of packing the DB.
J
From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:05:24 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter
Of course the only problem with a hit counter is that high traffic requests
mean continually writing the object into the ZODB each time it gets hit /
downloaded, whatever. Thats why I release FSCounter which uses the file
system. I would like to expand this to cover multiple objects...
- Original Message -
From: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:17 AM
Subject: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter
It would be really nice to know how many people are downloading the
products. This would also be a great feature to add to the actual
Zope distribution. I know you could get this from the logs (easily)
but you could also add a small counter to the product 'view' method,
something along the lines of what is in the Simple Url products (BTW
one of my favorites) and make it something you can turn on or off for
your products.
dtml-call "REQUEST.set('hitcount', hitcount + 1)"
dtml-call "propertysheets.public.manage_editProperties(REQUEST)"
dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect(url)"
Thanks,
J
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Re: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter
Andy McKay wrote: Of course the only problem with a hit counter is that high traffic requests mean continually writing the object into the ZODB each time it gets hit / downloaded, whatever. Thats why I release FSCounter which uses the file system. I would like to expand this to cover multiple objects... The problem is slightly more complicated than this: We have Apache cache file and image objects. This is a good thing, because they are static, and Apache will *always* be better than Zope at serving static content. This is a bad thing, because direct requests for files don't ever make it to Zope. Nonetheless, this doesn't affect the /view method. Further, we now have the feature that the listing of products shows the latest version, no /view method in the middle, for your direct download. I may be able to do some parsing of the apache log files for those things that end in tgz, tar.gz , and zip. This would be somewhat canonical, except for the fact that because we have cache headers set on the file objects, they are cached downstream, and so many requests for cache objects will never make it to our Apache at all. ~ethan p.s. I'd really appreciate it if requests for improvements of zope.org be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter
Yes Apache and caching adds a whole new layer of complexity. But most simple Zope installations dont use it and for quick rough counts it can be useful, of course its rare to be able to replace the log files in terms of accuracy. - Original Message - From: "mindlace" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter Andy McKay wrote: Of course the only problem with a hit counter is that high traffic requests mean continually writing the object into the ZODB each time it gets hit / downloaded, whatever. Thats why I release FSCounter which uses the file system. I would like to expand this to cover multiple objects... The problem is slightly more complicated than this: We have Apache cache file and image objects. This is a good thing, because they are static, and Apache will *always* be better than Zope at serving static content. This is a bad thing, because direct requests for files don't ever make it to Zope. Nonetheless, this doesn't affect the /view method. Further, we now have the feature that the listing of products shows the latest version, no /view method in the middle, for your direct download. I may be able to do some parsing of the apache log files for those things that end in tgz, tar.gz , and zip. This would be somewhat canonical, except for the fact that because we have cache headers set on the file objects, they are cached downstream, and so many requests for cache objects will never make it to our Apache at all. ~ethan p.s. I'd really appreciate it if requests for improvements of zope.org be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter
Ooops... sorry Ethan, didn't mean to send this to the wrong place. Just wanted to see what others felt about it. If it is undoable, cool. If someone figures out a way, it would be really appreciated and certainly a boost to Zopista's and product developers to see how popular and used our products are. That is all. Thanks, J From: mindlace [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:15:44 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter Andy McKay wrote: Of course the only problem with a hit counter is that high traffic requests mean continually writing the object into the ZODB each time it gets hit / downloaded, whatever. Thats why I release FSCounter which uses the file system. I would like to expand this to cover multiple objects... The problem is slightly more complicated than this: We have Apache cache file and image objects. This is a good thing, because they are static, and Apache will *always* be better than Zope at serving static content. This is a bad thing, because direct requests for files don't ever make it to Zope. Nonetheless, this doesn't affect the /view method. Further, we now have the feature that the listing of products shows the latest version, no /view method in the middle, for your direct download. I may be able to do some parsing of the apache log files for those things that end in tgz, tar.gz , and zip. This would be somewhat canonical, except for the fact that because we have cache headers set on the file objects, they are cached downstream, and so many requests for cache objects will never make it to our Apache at all. ~ethan p.s. I'd really appreciate it if requests for improvements of zope.org be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] zope.org restarting
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Re: [Zope] Zope.org Mirroring
Erik Enge wrote: It might not be interesting, but what I would really like is a complete mirror of documentation and products up and running all the time. That could be done statically, even without Zope if it sucks that much. (Although, I can't see why it would in such a situation.) You misunderstand how Zoep sucks ;-) The problem is making the mirror. I've seen quite a few postings describing how the common mirroring tools don't do a very good job of mirroring Zope sites, because of things like that BASE tag abomination and the confusion about what objects a file-system like 'folders' and what objects aren't. Anyone knwo of a tool that _does_ mirror Zope well? cheers, Chris ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope.org Mirroring
Steve Alexander wrote: What kind of mirroring? Something static, or something clever using ZEO? AFAIK, ZEO doesn't currently have a distributed storage system, so anything other than a static mirror is still going to share a point of failure with Zope.org... That said, threads on the lists suggest that Zope sucks when you try to mirror it statically :( What to do? ;-) Chris ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org Mirroring
(sorry for jumping in here) [Chris Withers] | What to do? ;-) It might not be interesting, but what I would really like is a complete mirror of documentation and products up and running all the time. That could be done statically, even without Zope if it sucks that much. (Although, I can't see why it would in such a situation.) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope.org is slow, it's being hit hard! :-)
Curtis Maloney wrote: Sometimes (much of the time) it comes through just fine. But on some days (and it does seem to last just the day) it's slower than a wet weekend. What would be interesting to know is WHY it gets slow. This might help explain it: I noticed this also, it appears from the logs that we're being crawled by about 7 different bots. I guess popularity has its price... -- - Matthew Burleigh - Systems Administrator, Digital Creations - publishers of Zope. - (888)344-4332 -- http://www.digicool.com - http://www.zope.org Maybe it's be possible to have some sort of 'current load indicator' in the standard_html_footer on zope.org? Matt mentioned a quick hack: watch "netstat -an | grep "1380" -c" Averages around 140, since I've been watchin for last couple mins I wonder if something similar could be bent to the job? If it really is something beyond their control, perhaps mirror sites? Well, NIP would be happy to do this, but, as you may or may not know, Zope doesn't mirror very well :-( cheers, Chris ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope.org is soooooo slow.
Zope.org is slow as hell. A couple of days a week at least. It doesn't exactly work in favor for Zope when I try to show of Zope.org to friends, collegues or potential customers and the site won't even respond. Argh! Why is it so slow? Do something about it! ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org is soooooo slow (not really)
[J. Atwood] | Umm.. what makes you say it is slow? It popped up just as fast as | Microsoft.com and Apple.com this morning (with each page after even | faster). It _was_ slow. | Might be your connection. Certainly not slow from here (NYC, DSL) No. I check a zillion other sites; they were fast and responsive. The Zope.org site is back up again now. At one point, just before it came back to life, it reported a Proxy error. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org is soooooo slow (not really)
Umm.. what makes you say it is slow? It popped up just as fast as Microsoft.com and Apple.com this morning (with each page after even faster). Might be your connection. Certainly not slow from here (NYC, DSL) J From: Erik Enge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: EMM Solutions Date: 31 Aug 2000 14:45:15 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Zope] Zope.org is soo slow. Zope.org is slow as hell. A couple of days a week at least. It doesn't exactly work in favor for Zope when I try to show of Zope.org to friends, collegues or potential customers and the site won't even respond. Argh! Why is it so slow? Do something about it! ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org is soooooo slow.
Erik Enge wrote: Zope.org is slow as hell. A couple of days a week at least. It doesn't exactly work in favor for Zope when I try to show of Zope.org to friends, collegues or potential customers and the site won't even respond. Argh! Why is it so slow? Do something about it! ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) Zope.org is free as hell. Why don't you get creative and donate something to the effort and stop bitching. If you need to make pictures with words it means that you don't have a grasp on basic reality and attempt to shuttle form into desire. It's childish - sooo childish. Here's a solution - why don't you find out if you can mirror the site somehow. Why is it so free? Do something about it! J.P. Racine Thot Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org is soooooo slow (not really)
Erik Enge wrote: [J. Atwood] | Umm.. what makes you say it is slow? It popped up just as fast as | Microsoft.com and Apple.com this morning (with each page after even | faster). It _was_ slow. Next time www.zope.org appears to be slow, try accessing www.codeit.com as well since the two are hosted in the same location AFAIK. If there is a problem, report it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and remember to include the exact time and time zone. BTW there have been some outages due to misconfiguration and network problems. Shane ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] zope.org
what's happenng to zope.org? i got this message when i tried accessing it !-- Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 222, in publish_module File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions) File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 162, in publish File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/BaseRequest.py, line 309, in traverse File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/BeforeTraverse.py, line 85, in __call__ File /usr/local/dc/org/Products/SiteAccess/AccessRule.py, line 22, in __call__ File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/BeforeTraverse.py, line 112, in __call__ File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 442, in setstate File /usr/local/dc/zope_soft/lib/python/ZEO/ClientStorage.py, line 289, in load (Object: /usr/local/dc/org/var/sserver.soc) File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/ZEO/zrpc.py, line 180, in __call__ (Object: dispatcher) File /usr/local/dc/Zope2/lib/python/ZEO/smac.py, line 184, in message_output (Object: dispatcher) Disconnected: (see above) -- ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org is soooooo slow (not really)
On Fri, 01 Sep 2000, J. Atwood wrote: Umm.. what makes you say it is slow? It popped up just as fast as Microsoft.com and Apple.com this morning (with each page after even faster). Might be your connection. Certainly not slow from here (NYC, DSL) J I have to agree with Erik... Sometimes (much of the time) it comes through just fine. But on some days (and it does seem to last just the day) it's slower than a wet weekend. Saying it works fine for you isn't really all that fair, since you are in the same country. What would be interesting to know is WHY it gets slow. If it really is something beyond their control, perhaps mirror sites? Have a better one, Curtis. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.Org Style Developers Portal Question
Tim Bass wrote: Hi. One of my clients needs to build a portal for developers to share information. Showed them www.zope.org and they liked it. Home much time would it take for a novice to go from a raw zope distribution to put in place the core functionality/look/feel of the zope.org portal? Check out the PTK cheers, Chris ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.Org Style Developers Portal Question
Hi. One of my clients needs to build a portal for developers to share information. Showed them www.zope.org and they liked it. Home much time would it take for a novice to go from a raw zope distribution to put in place the core functionality/look/feel of the zope.org portal? As an example I created a complete Timesheet tracking system for my (not so big) company yesterday, using cabbie's TimeTracker (Timesheet) product. It works fine, but I need to to some minor tweaks to it. The kewl thing is that I spent 25 mins on it totally. 15 of those 25 mins was spent on adding some style to the site. Nice colors and goodlooking fonts. If you have more than 25 mins to spend, do so on additional stuff and extra features such as style and design. Simple. Why do stuff you don't have to do, when some1 else's done it for you? Credits to all Zope Product Authors and the Zope team itself! -Tim Tim Bass, Silk Road http://www.silkroad.com/ Network-Centric Subject Matter Expert, AFCIC/SYN Network-Centric Subject Matter Expert, DOE/CIO http://calendar.yahoo.com/public/timothy_james_bass Voice: 703 222 4243 Fax: 703 222 7320 ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope.Org Style Developers Portal Question
Hi. One of my clients needs to build a portal for developers to share information. Showed them www.zope.org and they liked it. Home much time would it take for a novice to go from a raw zope distribution to put in place the core functionality/look/feel of the zope.org portal? -Tim Tim Bass, Silk Road http://www.silkroad.com/ Network-Centric Subject Matter Expert, AFCIC/SYN Network-Centric Subject Matter Expert, DOE/CIO http://calendar.yahoo.com/public/timothy_james_bass Voice: 703 222 4243 Fax: 703 222 7320 ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zope.org down?
I haven't been able to connect for the last hour or so, either. Nitin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope.org search bug -- can't search for book
I'm getting a System Unavailable message when I do a Zope.org search for the keyword "book". However, a search for anything else, i.e. "bookworm", works fine. Any ideas? SiteIndex ! System Unavailable This site is currently experiencing technical difficulties. Please contact the site administrator for more information. For additional technical information, please refer to the HTML source for this page. Thank you for your patience. Error type: KeyError Error value: 3711 - T.J. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] zope.org down?
Hi all, Is it just me having problems or is www.zope.org down or being DOS-ed etc? Ewald Wasscher ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] zope.org down?
its down -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ewald Wasscher Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 7:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Zope] zope.org down? Hi all, Is it just me having problems or is www.zope.org down or being DOS-ed etc? Ewald Wasscher ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zope.org down?
No, it's not just you. - Original Message - From: "Ewald Wasscher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 12:26 PM Subject: [Zope] zope.org down? Hi all, Is it just me having problems or is www.zope.org down or being DOS-ed etc? Ewald Wasscher ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zope.org down?
Hi I have the same problem it look's like the server is little bit down At 01:26 PM 8/2/00 +0200, you wrote: Hi all, Is it just me having problems or is www.zope.org down or being DOS-ed etc? Ewald Wasscher ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zope.org down?
Phil Harris wrote: No, it's not just you. GRR, zope.org is down, squishdot doesn't work on Zope 2.2.0 I can't get the PTK (0.7.1 and CVS) to work on Zope 2.2.0, can't download the snapshot of the PTK mentioned on the list because (if someone would mind mailing me a copy?) etc. Ewald ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zope.org down
Hi, After downloading the InterBase 6.0 check the version of IBConsole because the 309 version is corrupt. When you try to connect to a database you'll get the following message: "error connecting to database" ... "DPB Constant (0) is unknown" Download the 308 version of OBConsole at: http://www.interbase.com/open/downloads/ib_download.html Diny At 17:57 29-7-00 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Withers wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: The InterbaseStorage product is full-featured (undo, versioning). But I've gotten little response to releasing it, and I don't think anyone is using it, so bugs are sure to exist. I don't think you announced this loudly enough ;-) Is interbase stable/OSS? Yes, it has been developed by Borland/Inprise commercially for many years. They open-sourced it recently, going through a long beta period. Where can I get it from? http://www.inprise.com Where is the InterBaseStorage product (and documentation ;-) available? See the ZopeTreasures page Beehive has set up. A nice piece of work in tasteful day-glo colors :-) Jan ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) DIVA, Faculty of Veterinary Medicine Utrecht University, The Netherlands http://www.vet.uu.nl ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zope.org down
Cary O'Brien wrote: Hold on. I am confused, and I really need to understand this. Why do you need a 40 gb drive to store something that might get to 2GB? Do thing get really big during packing? (Thinking PostgreSQL index creation here, where it uses temp files for sorting, which has bit me more than once). Or do you just want to keep N old versions around? I need to have n versions for various testing purposes: this is what got me in trouble in the first place- I was packing to try to make room. The pack makes a full backup of your data, so it needs about 1.75*n space where n is the size of your current Data.fs Also, (besides "upgrade to alpha"), what is the workaround for Data.fs bigger than 2GB? Are there any plans to split it across multiple files? (Once again, the PostgreSQL people recently added this -- database files don't exceed 1GB, when the table gets that big it splits them across multiple files). One solution is to have your Data.fs actually be split using mounted databases, something I consider a sub-optimal solution. Another option would be to store the entire zodb in a relational database, but as far as I know none of the products that attempt to provide that are full-featured. The bottom line is that the OS should support the creation of very large files. Note that any of the BSD variants, or Solaris for x86, or SCO unix, all will let you have a ZODB larger than 2gb, assuming python was compiled properly. I have spent literally about 40 hours trying to get Linux to support large files. While the code is integrated into kernels 2.3.27 and up, something still isn't quite right because I cannot get python to support large files although I can get c to create 17GB files using lseek(). Hope that helps, -- ethan mindlace fremen Zopatista Community Liason Abnegate I! ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] zope.org down
The InterbaseStorage product is full-featured (undo, versioning). But I've gotten little response to releasing it, and I don't think anyone is using it, so bugs are sure to exist. -Original Message- From: ethan mindlace fremen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 11:11 AM To: Cary O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope] zope.org down Cary O'Brien wrote: Hold on. I am confused, and I really need to understand this. Why do you need a 40 gb drive to store something that might get to 2GB? Do thing get really big during packing? (Thinking PostgreSQL index creation here, where it uses temp files for sorting, which has bit me more than once). Or do you just want to keep N old versions around? I need to have n versions for various testing purposes: this is what got me in trouble in the first place- I was packing to try to make room. The pack makes a full backup of your data, so it needs about 1.75*n space where n is the size of your current Data.fs Also, (besides "upgrade to alpha"), what is the workaround for Data.fs bigger than 2GB? Are there any plans to split it across multiple files? (Once again, the PostgreSQL people recently added this -- database files don't exceed 1GB, when the table gets that big it splits them across multiple files). One solution is to have your Data.fs actually be split using mounted databases, something I consider a sub-optimal solution. Another option would be to store the entire zodb in a relational database, but as far as I know none of the products that attempt to provide that are full-featured. The bottom line is that the OS should support the creation of very large files. Note that any of the BSD variants, or Solaris for x86, or SCO unix, all will let you have a ZODB larger than 2gb, assuming python was compiled properly. I have spent literally about 40 hours trying to get Linux to support large files. While the code is integrated into kernels 2.3.27 and up, something still isn't quite right because I cannot get python to support large files although I can get c to create 17GB files using lseek(). Hope that helps, -- ethan mindlace fremen Zopatista Community Liason Abnegate I! ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zope.org down
Chris McDonough wrote: The InterbaseStorage product is full-featured (undo, versioning). But I've gotten little response to releasing it, and I don't think anyone is using it, so bugs are sure to exist. I don't think you announced this loudly enough ;-) Is interbase stable/OSS? Where can I get it from? Where is the InterBaseStorage product (and documentation ;-) available? cheers, Chris ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] zope.org down
See http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/RS/InterbaseStorage/InterbaseStorage. txt for answers to the Interbase questions and InterbaseStorage docs and see http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/RS/InterbaseStorage to download the InterbaseStorage product. -Original Message- From: Chris Withers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 11:34 AM To: Chris McDonough Cc: Ethan Fremen; Cary O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope] zope.org down Chris McDonough wrote: The InterbaseStorage product is full-featured (undo, versioning). But I've gotten little response to releasing it, and I don't think anyone is using it, so bugs are sure to exist. I don't think you announced this loudly enough ;-) Is interbase stable/OSS? Where can I get it from? Where is the InterBaseStorage product (and documentation ;-) available? cheers, Chris ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] packing on ZSPs (was Re: [Zope] zope.org down)
ethan mindlace fremen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, folks, zope.org is down again, because the site was packed without enough space on the device. ... To keep this from happening again, we will be adding an additional 40gb drive that should do us just fine until the Data.fs hits 2 GB. This is a general problem for zope service providers and their users; I wonder how we can resolve it ? Related, though specific to Codeit users: I need to pack to avoid the above, but fear the data-corrupting packing bugs which were fixed in more recent versions of zope. Codeit, perhaps time for an upgrade ? At least to 2.1.6 ? Best regards -Simon ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] packing on ZSPs (was Re: [Zope] zope.org down)
- Original Message - From: "Simon Michael" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Related, though specific to Codeit users: I need to pack to avoid the above, but fear the data-corrupting packing bugs which were fixed in more recent versions of zope. Codeit, perhaps time for an upgrade ? At least to 2.1.6 ? My experience is that CodeIt, in order not to surprise you with unexpected upgrades, will upgrade your Zope server when you ask. -- Loren ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] zope.org going down now
zope.org is going down now for the upgrade. Thanks for your patience. -- ethan mindlace fremen Zopatista Community Liason Abnegate I! ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] zope.org updated
zope.org is now running the release version of zope (2.2), which should be availiable for download shortly. Enjoy, -- ethan mindlace fremen Zopatista Community Liason Abnegate I! ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] zope.org going down for upgrade
Zopatistas: zope.org will be going down the morning of Friday the 14th during the transition to zope 2.2. It should be no more than a 15 minute downtime. In the mean time, if you want to hit http://www.zope.org:666/ to see if it works, feel free! -- ethan mindlace fremen Zopatista Community Liason Abnegate I! ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org Hidden Stats
Tony McDonald wrote: If you're running Zope from behind Apache/PCGI then you *have* to run Zope single threaded. Am I correct? I think Martijn Pieters answers this question in the Zope, Apache/NT, Reliability Issues thread. ethan mindlace fremen Zopatista Community Liason ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org Hidden Stats
Hi all, under /Software this is shown. The machine is running RedHat 6.1. The Zope installation is a CVS checkout with fairly conservative updating. The content is served completely out of the Zope database. Apache is used as the web server in front of Zope.org, using PCGI to integrate with the Zope server. Soon we will migrate to using FastCGI. Can someone please clarify something for me here. (I've been Zoping for 15 months and *still* don't know the correct answer) If you're running Zope from behind Apache/PCGI then you *have* to run Zope single threaded. Am I correct? Therefore, that implies that Zope org is not using ZServer to serve up documents. Still correct? If this is the case then I'm even more impressed, but would like to ask why not use Ansers 'Apache/ZServer HowTo' and get the best of both worlds? TIA Tone. -- Dr Tony McDonald, FMCC, Networked Learning Environments Project http://nle.ncl.ac.uk/ The Medical School, Newcastle University Tel: +44 191 222 5888 Fingerprint: 3450 876D FA41 B926 D3DD F8C3 F2D0 C3B9 8B38 18A2 ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org Hidden Stats
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Tony McDonald wrote: If you're running Zope from behind Apache/PCGI then you *have* to run Zope single threaded. Am I correct? No, you r not! Yoy can run multithreading ZServer and connect Apache to it via PCGI. There are two PCGI servers in Zope - single-threaded and builtin (as a component) in ZServer. Oleg.(All opinions are mine and not of my employer) Oleg Broytmann Foundation for Effective Policies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org Hidden Stats
At 10:52 am + 8/6/00, Oleg Broytmann wrote: On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Tony McDonald wrote: If you're running Zope from behind Apache/PCGI then you *have* to run Zope single threaded. Am I correct? No, you r not! Yoy can run multithreading ZServer and connect Apache to it via PCGI. There are two PCGI servers in Zope - single-threaded and builtin (as a component) in ZServer. Oleg.(All opinions are mine and not of my employer) Thanks for that Oleg, Well you live and learn... To the zope list, I'm going to go really slowly here, as this is something that has been bugging me for yonks! (I have read doc/WEBSERVER.txt ... again and again). 1) Zope + Apache redirected to Zope.cgi with PCGI_PUBLISHER = pcgi/pcgi_publisher.py = single threaded server. No ZServer activity. Uses ZPublisher? 2) Zope + Apache redirected to Zope.cgi with PCGI_PUBLISHER = ZServer/PCGIServer.py = ZServer based multi-threaded server. Implies better throughput. If I'm anywhere near close, can someone please point out any resources that will show me how to get option (2) working? Additionally, can I ask that if (2) *is* correct, then with the 2.2 release another script (w_zserver_pcgi.py ?) be released. cheers, tone -- Dr Tony McDonald, FMCC, Networked Learning Environments Project http://nle.ncl.ac.uk/ The Medical School, Newcastle University Tel: +44 191 222 5888 Fingerprint: 3450 876D FA41 B926 D3DD F8C3 F2D0 C3B9 8B38 18A2 ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org down
Graham Chiu wrote: Hmm. zope.org has been down most of the afternoon. Not that Friday afternoon change over to Zeo that they were talking about doing ? Nope, a very odd DNS situation. --Paul ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope.org down
Hmm. zope.org has been down most of the afternoon. Not that Friday afternoon change over to Zeo that they were talking about doing ? -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org membership
Graham Chiu wrote: Can it be changed so that it remembers both my userid and password, or just my password? I usually remember who I am! This is certainly true. Unfortunately, Microsoft has made it so that anyone with a modicum of javascript skills can read *all* your cookies (if you use IE on Windows): http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/05/11/173257mode=nested Now, there may not be hugely deletrious effects resulting from this, but until cookies are handled in a sane manner, it's probably inappropriate for us to be putting the password there. If you're using IE 5 or Mozilla (NS 6) you can always tell it to remember what you've entered into the password field. Thanks, ~ethan fremen @ digicool imeme ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope.org tracker
Zopistas! There is now a zope.org tracker at http://www.zope.org/Tracker for bugs and feature requests for Zope.org. If there's anything that's been driving you nuts about the zope.org website, or something you'd just like to see, please feel free to add it to the Tracker! Thanks, ethan mindlace fremen Zopista Community Liason ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org membership
Graham Chiu wrote: I went there, clicked on the buttons, and got DNS errors. This link should show you all the cookies you have at www.zope.org: http://www.securityspace.com%2fexploit%2fexploit_1b.html%3fdomain==.www.zope.org/#exploit_1 Well, you only have to save one half of a pair. I would prefer you save the password. The username I can remember :-) Your username is publicly accessable from zope.org. With your password, if there's any way I can inferr your username- let's say the webmaster grabbed the information while you were posting a comment on zopeisevil.org- they can now do whatever you could do. More to the point, with redirection and javascript, they can even make you do it. For zope.org membership as it is today, all they could do is besmirch your good name in the community. In the future, as the things a zope member can do expands, it could mess up more. I will, however, look into other possibilities, like maybe your password could be filled in server side, if some appropriate check can be made. If you like, drop this issue in the Tracker, http://www.zope.org/Tracker , so that you'll be updated when its status changes. If you're using IE 5 or Mozilla (NS 6) you can always tell it to remember what you've entered into the password field. Doesn't offer to save it for me on IE5. If it did, I wouldn't be asking. Hmm. It harasses me about it all the time. Perhaps I'm using IE 5.5 (can't remember, I'm back in linux.) ~ethan ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
