On the actual problem, this is a big red flag for me:
'isinstance(zapi.getSiteManager(), FiveSiteManager)': True,
Fails. So, it's not a FivesiteManager. What is it? None, or something else?
Since this seems to be a cleanup issue, my guess is: Something else.
Probably another one of the site
On 12/20/05, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
for next release we plan to replace several parts with the corresponding
components from Zope 3 (e.g. ZPT´). Philipp is working on a proposal on
that issue. In addition I would like to get rid of some old stuff that is
no longer
On 18. Dez 2005, at 17:58, Tim Peters wrote:
Nobody should be installing from a checkout to begin with, right?
Ok, so that's probably where we disagree then ;-)
I almost exclusively work with checkouts, and I would think many
developers (as opposed to users) do. Is there really no way to
+1 on all of them
On Tue, December 20, 2005 07:52, Andreas Jung wrote:
Hi,
for next release we plan to replace several parts with the corresponding
components from Zope 3 (e.g. ZPT´). Philipp is working on a proposal on
that issue. In addition I would like to get rid of some old stuff that
I created a wiki for the 2.10 development:
http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Projects/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/Zope2.10/FrontPage
Feel free to contribute and comment.
Andreas
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Lennart Regebro wrote:
On the actual problem, this is a big red flag for me:
'isinstance(zapi.getSiteManager(), FiveSiteManager)': True,
Fails. So, it's not a FivesiteManager. What is it? None, or something else?
It's the global site manager if not the FiveSiteManager.
Since this seems
On 20 Dec 2005, at 08:51, Stefan H. Holek wrote:
On 18. Dez 2005, at 17:58, Tim Peters wrote:
Nobody should be installing from a checkout to begin with, right?
Ok, so that's probably where we disagree then ;-)
I almost exclusively work with checkouts, and I would think many
developers
--On 20. Dezember 2005 09:59:36 + Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I strongly disagree as well. I believe it is normal practice to grab a
tag or branch tip from subversion and install that. Why would I ever
grab some tarball when I'm at the command line already and use svn for
On 19 Dec 2005, at 22:08, Jim Fulton wrote:
Sounds good. I'll announce that the repo will be down for maintenance
on the 25th,
Just FYI, during a dry run this morning I hit an obvious snag: The
subversion packages on svn.zope.org are so ancient that they cannot
create FSFS backends.
On Dec 20, 2005, at 12:36 AM, Dennis Allison wrote:
The interaction between sessions, conflicts, and persistence is a bit
confusing. I am still trying to understand the code in depth.
One thing is for sure, request.SESSION and/or request['SESSION']
must be
persistent for things to work.
Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
I appreciate the suggestion but this change is limited to the data
backend switchover. Setting up anonymous access via HTTP is a separate
activity for another day.
You are right, though, access (at least anonymous access) via HTTP is
preferable for a lot of
+1 on all.
On Dec 20, 2005, at 1:52 AM, Andreas Jung wrote:
Hi,
for next release we plan to replace several parts with the
corresponding components from Zope 3 (e.g. ZPT´). Philipp is
working on a proposal on that issue. In addition I would like to
get rid of some old stuff that is no
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 09:43:18AM +0100, Lennart Regebro wrote:
| +0 on Gadfly, I have no opinion there.
| +1 on all else.
I have proposed using sqlite/ZSQLiteDA in the past which is more like
a real database, but still embeded, but people didn't like much the
idea.
--
Sidnei da Silva
Enfold
Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
On 19 Dec 2005, at 22:08, Jim Fulton wrote:
Sounds good. I'll announce that the repo will be down for maintenance
on the 25th,
Just FYI, during a dry run this morning I hit an obvious snag: The
subversion packages on svn.zope.org are so ancient that they cannot
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On 20 Dec 2005, at 11:57, Jim Fulton wrote:
Since I cannot do any test right now for loading the dumpfile into
a FSFS-based repository I suggest doing this package upgrade
beforehand. It only takes a few minutes. I cannot make any
guarantees that nothing will break, however. The only
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I have the latest subversion-1.2.3-4 compiled for python2.3. I am
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to make them available to you if you wish.
Thanks for the help, Alan. I'm just going the route of least risk by
Andreas Jung wrote:
for next release we plan to replace several parts with the corresponding
components from Zope 3 (e.g. ZPT´). Philipp is working on a proposal on
that issue. In addition I would like to get rid of some old stuff that
is no longer maintained and buggy:
- ZopeTutorial
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 07:52:02AM +0100, Andreas Jung wrote:
Hi,
for next release we plan to replace several parts with the corresponding
components from Zope 3 (e.g. ZPT??). Philipp is working on a proposal on
that issue. In addition I would like to get rid of some old stuff that is
no
--On 20. Dezember 2005 14:05:26 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
- Gadfly(DA) - do we really need this? We discussed this already. In my
opinion the purpose of Gadfly is only educational but nothing that one
really needs or uses for production. It could be removed and
On Dec 20, 2005, at 10:36 AM, Paul Winkler wrote:
- HelpSys - from a programmers view pretty much useless and not very
helpful. I consider to replace it with something more useful
(not sure
we can re-use apidoc from Zope 3 in some way, perhaps the inclusion
of Dieter's Docfinder
--On 20. Dezember 2005 12:27:41 -0500 Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In Zope 2.10 , Products packaged as Python Eggs will need either to drop
support for helpsys stuff or the helpsys stuff will need to be revamped
support files living in zipfiles. The former sounds saner to me
On Dec 20, 2005, at 12:38 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:
Speaking of eggs, could you please add this to the 2.10 wiki? :-)
Done...
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On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 12:27:41PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
I agree it would be helpful to have the
info that's currently in the helpsystem for builtin Zope products be
available somewhere else, though.
I'm OK in principle with moving this stuff somewhere else,
and with properly
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 01:24:32PM -0500, Paul Winkler wrote:
Maybe if we don't want to bundle them, we could host them in a versioned
hierarchy on zope.org, like the way old versions of Python docs are
always available on python.org.
... which, duh, doesn't handle help for third-party
--On 20. Dezember 2005 13:32:02 -0500 Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 01:24:32PM -0500, Paul Winkler wrote:
Maybe if we don't want to bundle them, we could host them in a versioned
hierarchy on zope.org, like the way old versions of Python docs are
always
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 08:13:18PM +0100, Andreas Jung wrote:
--On 20. Dezember 2005 13:32:02 -0500 Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 01:24:32PM -0500, Paul Winkler wrote:
Maybe if we don't want to bundle them, we could host them in a versioned
hierarchy on
--On 20. Dezember 2005 14:27:18 -0500 Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
just to be clear, the stuff I'm talking about is ZMI user interface
docs, not programmer docs.
I'll raise the question again: what are the benefits of the HelpSys for a
Zope user? I just clicked through the
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 08:47:34PM +0100, Andreas Jung wrote:
--On 20. Dezember 2005 14:27:18 -0500 Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
just to be clear, the stuff I'm talking about is ZMI user interface
docs, not programmer docs.
I'll raise the question again: what are the
On 20 Dec 2005, at 19:47, Andreas Jung wrote:
--On 20. Dezember 2005 14:27:18 -0500 Paul Winkler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
just to be clear, the stuff I'm talking about is ZMI user interface
docs, not programmer docs.
I'll raise the question again: what are the benefits of the HelpSys
--On 20. Dezember 2005 15:09:56 -0500 Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
- additional information and story telling should be done through doc
tests
For general what is this / what does it do / how does it work
docs, I like that idea.
But it doesn't help with filling out forms in the
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 08:18:18PM +, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
I would say the only benefit was the unification of docs for Zope and
installed third party products in one place,
Good point!
and its context-
sensitivity for documenting screens in the ZMI when you're on them
by
On Dec 20, 2005, at 3:29 PM, Paul Winkler wrote:
If so, the question then becomes: timetable and plan for deprecating
HelpSys. I don't think we can simply rip out registerHelp() in 2.10
unless we have deprecation warnings in 2.9; and a useful deprecation
warning requires something in place we
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 03:58:05PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
FWIW, I have zero plans to support a registerHelp that does anything
but pass or warn for Egg products. If people think that isn't a
reasonable thing to do, I may need to take my committment to
integrating eggs off the
On Dec 20, 2005, at 4:22 PM, Paul Winkler wrote:
But I'm not sure I understand you.
Are you saying that in order to use Basket, my product can't call
registerHelp()?
Or are you saying that when installed via Basket, registerHelp()
does nothing? That's fine.
Yep, the latter currently...
Andreas Jung wrote:
I've never met ppl who actually used the HelpSys so that's why I am
raising the question about the value of the HelpSys. Lots of my
co-workers work with Zope on different levels (scripters, product
developers)...I've always pointed them to the Zope Book...the HelpSys
Andreas Jung wrote:
I'll raise the question again: what are the benefits of the HelpSys for
a Zope user?
I can't recall clicking on top frame of the ZMI or a 'Help!' link in the
past few years, either. Perhaps an equivalent or greater benefit would be
to rip out locally installed static help
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Jens Vagelpohl schrieb:
...
IMHO it would be nice if the HelpSys could be changed so that it still
provides those Help! links, but the product author can simply assign a
URL to them to point to a place where they copied and pasted their docs
into a website. That's not too much of an
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