[Zope-dev] Zope and Python compatibility for 2.7: decision

2003-01-14 Thread Brian Lloyd
Hi all - There has been some discussion lately regarding whether or not the next Zope feature release (2.7) should require Python 2.2.2 or not. For background, this is something that was already on the project plan, with the idea being that it would be easier to backport interesting things fro

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope and Python compatibility

2003-01-14 Thread Guido van Rossum
> On Monday 13 January 2003 7:46 pm, Casey Duncan wrote: > > > I personally feel like Zope should run on 2.2.x whether required or not. > > Requiring 2.2.x does have the advantage of limiting the possible blessed > > configurations on which Zope will run, thereby making development, support > > an

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope and Python compatibility

2003-01-14 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Monday 13 January 2003 7:46 pm, Casey Duncan wrote: > I personally feel like Zope should run on 2.2.x whether required or not. > Requiring 2.2.x does have the advantage of limiting the possible blessed > configurations on which Zope will run, thereby making development, support > and bug fixing

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope and Python compatibility

2003-01-13 Thread Guido van Rossum
> FYI, the current CVS head (to be 2.7) now requires 2.2.2 as per an > earlier papal edict. So there will be at least some work involved in > making it run under 2.1.3. I know. It's not much work, and I have already volunteered to do it. Jim has explicitly undone that decision and told me it's Br

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope and Python compatibility

2003-01-13 Thread Casey Duncan
On Monday 13 January 2003 09:56 am, Guido van Rossum wrote: > > What would the arguments be for sticking with Zope 2.1.3 for Zope 2.7? I > > feel most people want to use the latest and greatest versions, usually... > > Actually, most people don't care about the latest and greatest, and > would pre

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope and Python compatibility

2003-01-13 Thread Charlie Reiman
> To: "Lennart Regebro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Zope and Python compatibility > From: Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 09:56:23 -0500 > > > What would the arguments be for sti

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope and Python compatibility

2003-01-13 Thread Lennart Regebro
From: "Guido van Rossum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In practice, Zope 2.6(.x) already fulfills this requirement, it's only > that ZC doesn't have the resources to guarantee it. I think 2.7 would > be in the same boat. OK, then I would preferr that 2.1.3 should be the officially supported, just like wi

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope and Python compatibility

2003-01-13 Thread Guido van Rossum
> What would the arguments be for sticking with Zope 2.1.3 for Zope 2.7? I > feel most people want to use the latest and greatest versions, usually... Actually, most people don't care about the latest and greatest, and would prefer tried and trusted. Especially if the latest and greatest means th

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope and Python compatibility

2003-01-13 Thread Chris Withers
Lennart Regebro wrote: Of course, if the requirement could be 2.1.3 *or* 2.2.2, that would be nice, but is that realistic? This would be best and I don't see why it shouldn't happen... cheers, Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

[Zope-dev] Zope and Python compatibility

2003-01-13 Thread Lennart Regebro
What would the arguments be for sticking with Zope 2.1.3 for Zope 2.7? I feel most people want to use the latest and greatest versions, usually... Or? Of course, if the requirement could be 2.1.3 *or* 2.2.2, that would be nice, but is that realistic? _

Re: [Zope-dev] zope and python compatibility

2003-01-12 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Sunday 12 January 2003 8:16 pm, Guido van Rossum wrote: > > On Saturday 11 January 2003 4:06 pm, Jamie Heilman wrote: > > > Guido van Rossum wrote: > > > > > Without python 2.2 zope will continue to harbor remotely > > > > > exploitable zlib-based memory exhaustion attacks. FWIW > > > > There ar

Re: [Zope-dev] zope and python compatibility

2003-01-12 Thread Guido van Rossum
> On Saturday 11 January 2003 4:06 pm, Jamie Heilman wrote: > > Guido van Rossum wrote: > > > > Without python 2.2 zope will continue to harbor remotely exploitable > > > > zlib-based memory exhaustion attacks. FWIW > > There are workarounds that work in 2.1.x, and I dont think any uses in Zope >

Re: [Zope-dev] zope and python compatibility

2003-01-12 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Saturday 11 January 2003 4:06 pm, Jamie Heilman wrote: > Guido van Rossum wrote: > > > Without python 2.2 zope will continue to harbor remotely exploitable > > > zlib-based memory exhaustion attacks. FWIW There are workarounds that work in 2.1.x, and I dont think any uses in Zope are performan

Re: [Zope-dev] zope and python compatibility

2003-01-11 Thread Jamie Heilman
Guido van Rossum wrote: > > Without python 2.2 zope will continue to harbor remotely exploitable > > zlib-based memory exhaustion attacks. FWIW > > Can you explain? Where does Zope even use zlib? dtml-tree for one, more recent versions of ztutils' tree code as well although its mitigated to an e

Re: [Zope-dev] zope and python compatibility

2003-01-10 Thread Guido van Rossum
> Without python 2.2 zope will continue to harbor remotely exploitable > zlib-based memory exhaustion attacks. FWIW Can you explain? Where does Zope even use zlib? --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) ___ Zope-Dev maillist -

Re: [Zope-dev] zope and python compatibility

2003-01-10 Thread Jamie Heilman
> I'm beginning to wonder whether Zope 2.7 shouldn't require Python > 2.1.3 rather than 2.2.2. The original motivation for requiring 2.2.x > was to allow easy backporting of Zope 3 components, and that is no > longer a goal. I've asked Brian to review the version decision in > this light. Withou

Re: [Zope-dev] zope and python compatibility

2003-01-10 Thread Guido van Rossum
>Zope 2.5 + Python 2.1 --> Good >Zope 2.6 + Python 2.1 --> Good >Zope 2.7 + Python 2.1 --> Bad >Zope 2.5 + Python 2.2 --> Bad >Zope 2.6 + Python 2.2 --> Bad >Zope 2.7 + Python 2.2 --> Good I'm beginning to wonder whether Zope 2.7 shouldn't require Python 2.1.3 rather

Re: [Zope-dev] zope and python compatibility

2003-01-09 Thread Anthony Baxter
>>> Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote > It is possible to run 2.6 under Python 2.2, but it's unsupported Note that you'll need 2.2.2. 2.2 and 2.2.1 have bugs that Zope triggers. -- Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's never too late to have a happy childhood. _

Re: [Zope-dev] zope and python compatibility

2003-01-09 Thread Adam Manock
I would strongly recommend using python version 2.1.3 for Zope 2.5.1 - 2.6.x and python >= 2.2.2 for Zope > 2.6.x. Adam On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 12:06, Tena Sakai wrote: > Greetings zope-dev folks, > > Please help me out. > > I have seen below via google search: > >Zope 2.5 + Python 2.1 -->

[Zope-dev] zope and python compatibility

2003-01-09 Thread Clemens Robbenhaar
Tena Sakai writes: > Greetings zope-dev folks, > > Please help me out. > > I have seen below via google search: > >Zope 2.5 + Python 2.1 --> Good >Zope 2.6 + Python 2.1 --> Good >Zope 2.7 + Python 2.1 --> Bad >Zope 2.5 + Python 2.2 --> Bad >Zope 2.6 + Python 2

Re: [Zope-dev] zope and python compatibility

2003-01-09 Thread Jeffrey P Shell
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 10:06 AM, Tena Sakai wrote: Greetings zope-dev folks, Please help me out. I have seen below via google search: Zope 2.5 + Python 2.1 --> Good Zope 2.6 + Python 2.1 --> Good Zope 2.7 + Python 2.1 --> Bad Zope 2.5 + Python 2.2 --> Bad Zope 2.6

Re: [Zope-dev] zope and python compatibility

2003-01-09 Thread Leonardo Rochael Almeida
On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 15:06, Tena Sakai wrote: > [...] > >Zope 2.5 + Python 2.1 --> Good >Zope 2.6 + Python 2.1 --> Good >Zope 2.7 + Python 2.1 --> Bad >Zope 2.5 + Python 2.2 --> Bad >Zope 2.6 + Python 2.2 --> Bad >Zope 2.7 + Python 2.2 --> Good > > This article/note

Re: [Zope-dev] zope and python compatibility

2003-01-09 Thread Chris McDonough
This is right although it's been reported that Zope 2.6 works with Python 2.2 with no detected problems (so far). - Original Message - From: "Tena Sakai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 12:06 PM Subject: [Zope-dev] zo

[Zope-dev] zope and python compatibility

2003-01-09 Thread Tena Sakai
Greetings zope-dev folks, Please help me out. I have seen below via google search: Zope 2.5 + Python 2.1 --> Good Zope 2.6 + Python 2.1 --> Good Zope 2.7 + Python 2.1 --> Bad Zope 2.5 + Python 2.2 --> Bad Zope 2.6 + Python 2.2 --> Bad Zope 2.7 + Python 2.2 --> Good This