Re: [Zope-dev] [ZODB-Dev] Progress report: porting persistent, BTrees to Python3

2012-12-17 Thread Chris McDonough
On Sun, 2012-12-16 at 22:10 +0100, Godefroid Chapelle wrote: > Le 15/12/12 01:52, Tres Seaver a écrit : > > I fixed the remainig issues in persistent and released 4.0.5 today: its > > tests properly exercise the C extensions Under Python 3.2 / 3.3. > > I want to express my thanks to you, Tres, fo

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2012-02-04 Thread Chris McDonough
On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 08:46 +0100, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > Hi Chris, > > > For what it's worth, in the Pylons Project, we decided to continue > > requiring the signing of a contributor's agreement (more or less the > > same contributor agreement as Zope requires). But instead of signing > > via p

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2012-02-01 Thread Chris McDonough
On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 16:29 +0100, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > On Feb 1, 2012, at 15:53 , Charlie Clark wrote: > > Currently the hurdle to getting involved is signing and sending the > > committer agreement. A hurdle which I think is worth keeping. > > For any code released under the Zope Foundation

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.server still used?

2012-01-09 Thread Chris McDonough
On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 21:57 -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: > Hi all, > > Is zope.server still largely used by e.g. bluebream, grok, and other > zope 3 apps? Or do people tend to use other WSGI servers instead? > Either way, arguments for or against zope.server would be useful;

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2 WSGI investigation

2012-01-03 Thread Chris McDonough
On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 07:32 +, Martin Aspeli wrote: > On 3 January 2012 06:39, Chris McDonough wrote: > > On Mon, 2012-01-02 at 10:39 +, Martin Aspeli wrote: > >> On 2 January 2012 08:50, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > >> > On 01/01/2012 08:39 PM, Martin As

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2 WSGI investigation

2012-01-02 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mon, 2012-01-02 at 10:39 +, Martin Aspeli wrote: > On 2 January 2012 08:50, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > On 01/01/2012 08:39 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> There are three known WSGI implementations of the Zope 2 publisher. > >> I've had a look at them and made some notes a

[Zope-dev] zope.server still used?

2011-12-17 Thread Chris McDonough
Hi all, Is zope.server still largely used by e.g. bluebream, grok, and other zope 3 apps? Or do people tend to use other WSGI servers instead? Either way, arguments for or against zope.server would be useful; I'm trying to decide whether to base some new stuff on it. - C __

[Zope-dev] zc.buildout 2.0.0a1 for py33...

2011-12-07 Thread Chris McDonough
Could someone copy the existing zc.buildout-2.0.0a1-py3.2.egg file over to zc.buildout-2.0.0a1-py3.3.egg on PyPI so it gets shlepped down when we try to use the Python trunk against existing buildouts? - C ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org ht

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.sqlalchemy release

2011-12-06 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 16:21 -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: > Tomorrow, I plan to: > > - Merge the chrism-py3 branch of zope.sqlalchemy into its trunk. > (http://svn.zope.org/zope.sqlalchemy/branches/chrism-py3/) > to get Python 3 compatibility. > > - Once the compat b

Re: [Zope-dev] merge zope.configuration dictactions branch

2011-12-06 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 15:05 -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: > On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 08:07 +0100, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > > * Chris McDonough [2011-12-05 04:02]: > > > ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zope.configuration/branches/chrism-dictactions > > > > > >

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 3, OK: 44

2011-12-06 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 23:47 -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: > > > > These are both odd doctest failures, perhaps also related to the recent > > transaction release? > > Yes. I'll see if I can fix it in the ZODB trunk. The ZODB trunk test that failed has been fixed to

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 3, OK: 44

2011-12-05 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 20:31 -0500, Tres Seaver wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > [1]FAILED winbot / ZODB_dev py_254_win32 > > https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-December/053672.html > > > This appears to be due to the incompatibility of transaction

[Zope-dev] zope.sqlalchemy release

2011-12-05 Thread Chris McDonough
Tomorrow, I plan to: - Merge the chrism-py3 branch of zope.sqlalchemy into its trunk. (http://svn.zope.org/zope.sqlalchemy/branches/chrism-py3/) to get Python 3 compatibility. - Once the compat branch is merged, I'll make a 0.7 release of zope.sqlalchemy. Any dissent? - C _

Re: [Zope-dev] transaction pkg release (was Re: zope.sqlalchemy+py3 test failures)

2011-12-05 Thread Chris McDonough
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 22:12 -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: > I'm going to make a new major release of the transaction package > tomorrow (without the savepoint release features, and bw incompat with > 2.4 and 2.5), unless I hear otherwise. transaction 1.2.0 released with Py3 compat

Re: [Zope-dev] merge zope.configuration dictactions branch

2011-12-05 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 08:07 +0100, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > * Chris McDonough [2011-12-05 04:02]: > > ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zope.configuration/branches/chrism-dictactions > > > > I want to be able to associate a new value ("introspectables") with eac

[Zope-dev] transaction pkg release (was Re: zope.sqlalchemy+py3 test failures)

2011-12-04 Thread Chris McDonough
On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 06:07 -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: > On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 03:28 -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 15:22 +0100, Laurence Rowe wrote: > > > I've added chrism as an owner. Before we make a final release I'd like > >

[Zope-dev] merge zope.configuration dictactions branch

2011-12-04 Thread Chris McDonough
ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zope.configuration/branches/chrism-dictactions Rationale: I want to be able to associate a new value ("introspectables") with each ZCML configuration action, in support of ZCML support for Pyramid features described at: http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.sqlalchemy+py3 test failures.

2011-10-12 Thread Chris McDonough
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 03:28 -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 15:22 +0100, Laurence Rowe wrote: > > I've added chrism as an owner. Before we make a final release I'd like > > to revisit the savepoint release branches of transaction / > > zope.sq

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.schema and Python 3

2011-10-10 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 13:14 +0200, Brian Sutherland wrote: > I've managed to port zope.schema to Python 3.2 on a branch > (jinty-python3). Woo hoo! > It gives up Python 2.5 compatibility and depends on six > (http://packages.python.org/six/). Any objections to me merging this > branch? Not from

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.sqlalchemy+py3 test failures.

2011-10-01 Thread Chris McDonough
On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 15:22 +0100, Laurence Rowe wrote: > On 29 September 2011 10:33, Chris McDonough wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 12:40 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: > >> This bootstrap is from Jim's '2' branch of zc.buildout: > >> > >> > &

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.sqlalchemy+py3 test failures.

2011-09-29 Thread Chris McDonough
On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 12:40 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: > This bootstrap is from Jim's '2' branch of zc.buildout: > > > http://svn.zope.org/zc.buildout/branches/2/bootstrap/bootstrap.py?rev=121484&view=auto > > It is designed to work with Py3k. I've replaced the bootstrap.py in the chrism-py3 br

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.sqlalchemy+py3 test failures.

2011-09-27 Thread Chris McDonough
On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 06:43 +0100, Chris Withers wrote: > On 27/09/2011 02:47, Chris McDonough wrote: > > In case anyone is interested, I've made a stab at porting > > zope.sqlalchemy to Python 3 at > > http://svn.zope.org/zope.sqlalchemy/branches/chrism-py3/ . Severa

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.sqlalchemy+py3 test failures.

2011-09-26 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 21:47 -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: > In case anyone is interested, I've made a stab at porting > zope.sqlalchemy to Python 3 at > http://svn.zope.org/zope.sqlalchemy/branches/chrism-py3/ . Several > tests still fail. I could use some help fixing them. >

[Zope-dev] zope.sqlalchemy+py3 test failures.

2011-09-26 Thread Chris McDonough
In case anyone is interested, I've made a stab at porting zope.sqlalchemy to Python 3 at http://svn.zope.org/zope.sqlalchemy/branches/chrism-py3/ . Several tests still fail. I could use some help fixing them. To run the test suite: - Create a Python 3.2 virtualenv. - Install nose into the virt

Re: [Zope-dev] transaction pkg py3 / doctests

2011-09-26 Thread Chris McDonough
On Sun, 2011-09-25 at 23:10 -0400, Stephan Richter wrote: > On Sunday, September 25, 2011, Chris McDonough wrote: > > Anyway, it all seems to work given those limitations, but I'm having > > trouble making the doctests pass on Python 3. Are there any doctest > > nin

Re: [Zope-dev] transaction pkg py3 / doctests

2011-09-25 Thread Chris McDonough
On Sun, 2011-09-25 at 18:20 -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: > Hi all, > > I've ported the transaction package to Python 3 here: > > http://svn.zope.org/transaction/branches/chrism-py3/ > > To get Python 3 support, it ditches 2.4 and 2.5 support, although I may

[Zope-dev] transaction pkg py3 / doctests

2011-09-25 Thread Chris McDonough
Hi all, I've ported the transaction package to Python 3 here: http://svn.zope.org/transaction/branches/chrism-py3/ To get Python 3 support, it ditches 2.4 and 2.5 support, although I may try to readd 2.5 support. Anyway, it all seems to work given those limitations, but I'm having trouble makin

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.interface 3.8 win eggs

2011-09-23 Thread Chris McDonough
On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 13:05 -0500, Alan Runyan wrote: > please, > can someone create 32/64bit eggs for windows I think someone needs to kick the "wineggbuilder", or at least diagnose why it's having trouble building eggs for z.i. I'm not sure who's meant to be running it. - C _

Re: [Zope-dev] access to create z.i and z.c releases

2011-09-22 Thread Chris McDonough
On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 05:10 -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 10:10 +0200, Hanno Schlichting wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Chris McDonough wrote: > > > I've made tags for zope.interface 3.8.0 and zope.component 3.11.0, as > > >

Re: [Zope-dev] access to create z.i and z.c releases

2011-09-22 Thread Chris McDonough
On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 10:10 +0200, Hanno Schlichting wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Chris McDonough wrote: > > I've made tags for zope.interface 3.8.0 and zope.component 3.11.0, as > > described in a recent thread to this list, but I don't have PyPI owner &

[Zope-dev] access to create z.i and z.c releases

2011-09-22 Thread Chris McDonough
Hi folks, I've made tags for zope.interface 3.8.0 and zope.component 3.11.0, as described in a recent thread to this list, but I don't have PyPI owner rights to publish them. Can someone add me to the owners list for those packages (my pypi user name is "chrism")? - C _

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 17, OK: 30, UNKNOWN: 1

2011-09-15 Thread Chris McDonough
One of these failures was I *think* due to the fact that zope.interface didn't have an "extras_require" entry for "tests". I've added one; we'll see how it goes. - C On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 01:00 +, Zope tests summarizer wrote: > This is the summary for test reports received on the > zope-tes

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposal for merging jbohman-zope.registry branch of zope.component

2011-09-14 Thread Chris McDonough
On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 00:57 -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: > > > > I mentioned previously that it's not that much of a stretch to put this > > code into zope.interface because zope.interface.adapter already defines > > registry-ish stuff that possesses most of the sam

Re: [Zope-dev] ohloh listings

2011-09-11 Thread Chris McDonough
isting broken download), and it will complicate > our debugging efforts. > """ I've found it to work in the past despite that warning. > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: > > Hanno, > > > > Could you delete and readd the

[Zope-dev] ohloh listings

2011-09-10 Thread Chris McDonough
Hanno, Could you delete and readd the failed repository enlistments at https://www.ohloh.net/p/zope/enlistments?page=13 I think these are them: svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zope.schema/trunk svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zope.security/trunk They're preventing Zope stats on ohloh from getting

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposal for merging jbohman-zope.registry branch of zope.component

2011-09-08 Thread Chris McDonough
On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 19:03 -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 13:39 +0200, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > > * Chris McDonough [2011-09-08 05:21]: > > > On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 09:01 +0200, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > > > > Yes, I like the idea o

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposal for merging jbohman-zope.registry branch of zope.component

2011-09-08 Thread Chris McDonough
On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 13:39 +0200, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > * Chris McDonough [2011-09-08 05:21]: > > On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 09:01 +0200, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > > > Yes, I like the idea of a "fresh start" (or at least "proper clean > > > up&q

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposal for merging jbohman-zope.registry branch of zope.component

2011-09-08 Thread Chris McDonough
On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 09:01 +0200, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > * Chris McDonough [2011-09-06 20:06]: > > On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 12:50 +0200, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > > > * Chris McDonough [2011-09-01 04:27]: > > > > It wouldn't be the end of the world

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposal for merging jbohman-zope.registry branch of zope.component

2011-09-06 Thread Chris McDonough
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 12:50 +0200, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > * Chris McDonough [2011-09-01 04:27]: > > It wouldn't be the end of the world to have the global registry and the > > global API live in zope.registry, but it doesn't help Pyramid for it to > > be in

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.deprecation

2011-09-05 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 15:00 +0300, Gediminas Paulauskas wrote: > > > > Great. I've merged my branch into the trunk as per the above. > > Apparently I don't have owner access on the thing on PyPI so I can't > > make a release. Currently owners of the zope.deprecation package are: > > J1m, fdrake,

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.deprecation

2011-09-05 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 09:53 +0200, Hanno Schlichting wrote: > On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Chris McDonough wrote: > > I've given Python 3 support to zope.deprecation at > > http://svn.zope.org/zope.deprecation/branches/chrism-unittesting/ > > > > - Which Python

[Zope-dev] zope.deprecation

2011-09-04 Thread Chris McDonough
Hi all, I've given Python 3 support to zope.deprecation at http://svn.zope.org/zope.deprecation/branches/chrism-unittesting/ Outstanding questions before I merge: - Which Python versions is this thing meant to support? I have it functioning under 2.5, 2.6, 2.7 (and 3.2). Do we need it to s

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: proposal to split zope.configuration into ZCML and non-ZCML related packages

2011-09-03 Thread Chris McDonough
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 10:59 +0200, Hanno Schlichting wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > > Splitting zope.configuration into core mechanics and ZCML support > > makes a lot of sense to me. > > > > So, +1 from me. > > +1 here too It turns out that we were using

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposal for merging jbohman-zope.registry branch of zope.component

2011-09-01 Thread Chris McDonough
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 09:22 -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:27 AM, Chris McDonough wrote: > ... > > - zope.testing (for addCleanUp of the global registry in > > z.c.globalregistry and other places) > > This particular detail should simply be clea

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposal for merging jbohman-zope.registry branch of zope.component

2011-09-01 Thread Chris McDonough
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 09:15 +0200, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > * Chris McDonough [2011-08-30 03:51]: > > On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 08:47 +0200, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > > My interpretation of your suggestion is that maybe that "zope.component" > > end up as what

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposal for merging jbohman-zope.registry branch of zope.component

2011-08-30 Thread Chris McDonough
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 08:47 +0200, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > * Chris McDonough [2011-08-26 13:27]: > > > So I'd like to propose to do the split the other way around: Not > > > extract the core into something else and leave only a hollowed-out > > > shell

[Zope-dev] RFC: proposal to split zope.configuration into ZCML and non-ZCML related packages

2011-08-28 Thread Chris McDonough
Rationale Like the previous proposal by Tres Seaver related to zope.component, this is a step that will help port crucial Pyramid dependencies to Python3: https://github.com/Pylons/pyramid/wiki/Python-3-Porting At the end of this year's US PyCon, Lennart Regebro described the zope.conf

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposal for merging jbohman-zope.registry branch of zope.component

2011-08-26 Thread Chris McDonough
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 08:50 +0200, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > However, I feel that this extraction of the registry bits is a little > too mechanical, and I'd like us to think a little bit about > alternative approaches before we commit this. > > I envision the ZTK packages (like zope.component)

Re: [Zope-dev] kudos...

2011-08-09 Thread Chris McDonough
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 11:48 -0400, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > On Aug 8, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: > > > Kudos to whomever turned the "transaction" package's transaction manager > > into a context manager and was thoughtful enough to provide the &quo

[Zope-dev] kudos...

2011-08-08 Thread Chris McDonough
Kudos to whomever turned the "transaction" package's transaction manager into a context manager and was thoughtful enough to provide the "attempts" method (which returns a separate context manager, wrapping the txn context manager, and retries some number of configurable times). This makes writing

[Zope-dev] wineggbuilder?

2011-07-20 Thread Chris McDonough
I'm pondering making a release of zope.i18nmessageid to PyPI. It has C extensions. If I upload the release, does the wineggbuilder still come along and push windows binary eggs up eventually? - C ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://ma

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-03 Thread Chris McDonough
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 17:44 +0200, Hanno Schlichting wrote: > > I don't have any skin in this game, but FTR, Mike Bayer isn't feeling > > all that confident about Beaker's sessioning component (or so he has > > told me). Beaker was originally made as a caching component, and had > > sessioning jam

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-02 Thread Chris McDonough
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 03:41 +0200, Hanno Schlichting wrote: > - Continue to remove functionality tailored for TTW development, like > SiteRoot, AccessRules, HelpSys and step-by-step most of the ZMI > - Document and use the WSGI publisher and remove obsoleted > functionality like the virtual host m

Re: [Zope-dev] component registry navelgazing

2011-06-13 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 10:08 +0100, Chris Withers wrote: > On 12/06/2011 21:48, Chris McDonough wrote: > > Currently if you ask a registry to singly-adapt an object to an > > interface, and the object you're trying to adapt implements that > > interface, here'

[Zope-dev] component registry navelgazing

2011-06-12 Thread Chris McDonough
Currently if you ask a registry to singly-adapt an object to an interface, and the object you're trying to adapt implements that interface, here's what happens: >>> from zope.component.registry import Components >>> c = Components() >>> from zope.interface import Interface, implements >>> class IF

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-04-04 Thread Chris McDonough
On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 14:57 -0400, Lennart Regebro wrote: > I'm still in Atlanta, and Arc Riley asked for a Zope person to > possibly mentor some zope.* project for Python Software Foundation > this year. They probably want to get more of the Zope Toolkit ported > to Python 3. I forwarded the roadm

Re: [Zope-dev] Non-ZCML config for ZCA. (Was: Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?)

2011-03-21 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 14:13 -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 15:53 +0100, Lennart Regebro wrote: > ... > >> It's easy and clear, but has the drawback of encouraging that > >> registr

Re: [Zope-dev] Non-ZCML config for ZCA. (Was: Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?)

2011-03-21 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 15:53 +0100, Lennart Regebro wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 15:28, Jim Fulton wrote: > > This might be OK for @implements and maybe @adapts, which describe > > behavior, but start feeling wonky to me for something like: @utility. > > Well, the wonkyness comes from @utility

Re: [Zope-dev] Sprints at PyCon

2011-03-17 Thread Chris McDonough
On Sun, 2011-03-13 at 09:13 +0100, Christian Theune wrote: > Hi Guys, > > On 02/10/2011 07:07 AM, Christian Theune wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'll be at PyCon during the sprints. As promised from the tasks last > > year, I'd be happy to organize Zope sprinting activity. > > > > Who's coming? Who's int

Re: [Zope-dev] my take on ZCML's includeOverrides

2011-01-31 Thread Chris McDonough
slightly more control over conflict behavior. Details are here: http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/1.0/narr/advconfig.html On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 15:32 -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: > On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 14:27 -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: > > > > > [13:48] override

Re: [Zope-dev] PyPy 1.4.1 and the ZTK

2010-12-22 Thread Chris McDonough
On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 09:43 -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: > > This makes it possible to start testing some of the ZTK with PyPy. There > > are challenges of course: certain packages, such as zope.interface, use > > C extensions and would need to be installed in "plain-python" mode (if > > available).

Re: [Zope-dev] Stopping weekly meetings, moving towards sprints

2010-12-21 Thread Chris McDonough
Thanks for giving it a shot Christian! I always read the meeting notes, if I didn't participate. - C On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 19:46 +0100, Christian Theune wrote: > Hi, > > during my holidays I evaluated where I spend my time. I feel that the > weekly IRC meetings in their current form do not fos

Re: [Zope-dev] my take on ZCML's includeOverrides

2010-12-07 Thread Chris McDonough
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 14:27 -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: > > > [13:48] override is exactly the wrong phrase to use in the name > > > of this directive > > > [13:51] what it boils down to is that you never, ever really > > > want to use includeOverrid

Re: [Zope-dev] my take on ZCML's includeOverrides

2010-12-07 Thread Chris McDonough
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 14:08 -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: > > Independent of my previous call for discussion about ZCML conflict > > resolution, I'm cutting and pasting my side of a discussion about the > > ZCML "i

[Zope-dev] my take on ZCML's includeOverrides

2010-12-07 Thread Chris McDonough
Independent of my previous call for discussion about ZCML conflict resolution, I'm cutting and pasting my side of a discussion about the ZCML "includeOverrides" directive from an IRC chat, because it may come in useful for folks grappling with its behavior. There's not really any human-consumable

[Zope-dev] ZCML conflict resolution

2010-12-07 Thread Chris McDonough
I'm trying to decide whether to repurpose the conflict detection in zope.configuration for non-XML configuration. zope.configuration has the following resolveConflicts function, which attempts to resolve action discriminator conflicts. def resolveConflicts(actions): """Resolve conflicting act

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.interface memory optimization

2010-11-08 Thread Chris McDonough
On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 01:21 +0200, Marius Gedminas wrote: > On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 03:35:09PM +0100, Brian Sutherland wrote: > > I've committed 2 patches to a "jinty-mem" branch of zope.interface. > > Together these patches reduce the startup memory use of my ZTK based > > application by 3%. Is th

[Zope-dev] zope.i18nmessageid 3.5.3 released (windows binaries needed)

2010-08-09 Thread Chris McDonough
I made a new release of zope.i18nmessageid (3.5.3) persuant to a conversation that took place on this list a few weeks ago related to switching back to overriding build_ext to allow the package to work on Jython and other CPython platforms. Would someone be kind enough to build and upload new Wind

[Zope-dev] zope.i18messageid

2010-07-01 Thread Chris McDonough
Fabio, Within the last few months you committed the following change to zope.i18nmessageid: http://svn.zope.org/zope.i18nmessageid/trunk/setup.py?rev=102497&r1=101297&r2=102497 The commit message is "Fixed the compilation of the C extension with python 2.6: refactored it as a setuptools Feature.

Re: [Zope-dev] ZODB Documentation Fundraising

2010-06-24 Thread Chris McDonough
Thanks for organizing this Alan. Hopefully folks will follow your lead and contribute. Agendaless put some money into the pot today. On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 14:19 -0500, Alan Runyan wrote: > The blog: http://zodbdocs.blogspot.com/ > > I am coordinating an effort to have a ZODB book written by one

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-17 Thread Chris McDonough
On 4/17/10 5:20 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: > >> - Documentation should be written for documentation's sake. The >> emphasis should be on helping people understand what the software is >> for and how to use it, *not* on coverage. > > Amen. > >> - Documentation should be executable. Manuel helps a lot f

Re: [Zope-dev] Stacking zope.component registries

2010-04-08 Thread Chris McDonough
On 4/8/10 4:36 PM, Marius Gedminas wrote: >> >> from zope.component import getSiteManager >> getSiteManager.sethook(get_current_registry) > > That seems a bit short-sighted: it would break all tests that rely on > setSite() working. He said he wanted a global registry, but.. who knows? I stay as

Re: [Zope-dev] Stacking zope.component registries

2010-04-08 Thread Chris McDonough
of the (test-oriented) Python API. > > Martin > > ___ > Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org > https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > https://mail.zope.org/m

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 - Release Manager

2010-03-31 Thread Chris McDonough
hanks for doing this Hanno. -- Chris McDonough Agendaless Consulting, Fredericksburg VA The repoze.bfg Web Application Framework Book: http://bfg.repoze.org/book ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.component.zcml and global registry

2010-03-15 Thread Chris McDonough
On 3/15/10 11:52 AM, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: > * 2010-03-08 18:16, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: >> I'll wait till the week-end to release it, so everybody has the opportunity >> to have a word on this topic. > > I've released zope.component 3.9.3 with the change I discussed on the list > in the last

Re: [Zope-dev] Stop energy

2010-03-03 Thread Chris McDonough
On 3/3/10 2:06 PM, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: > * 2010-03-03 19:59, Chris McDonough wrote: >> I think it would be useful to have a discussion about grouping some Zope >> bits along functional lines for marketing purposes. This is really >> independent of any discussion about

Re: [Zope-dev] Stop energy

2010-03-03 Thread Chris McDonough
On 3/3/10 12:58 PM, Christian Theune wrote: > > I think there is some relevant and important desire that Chris has which > actually overlaps with some of thoughts I had lately: organizing the > currently 65 packages into categories where larger chunks of packages > make sense of being used together

Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of today's developer meeting

2010-03-02 Thread Chris McDonough
On 3/2/10 2:50 PM, Jim Fulton wrote: > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: >> On 3/2/10 1:09 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote: >>> Hi there, >>> >>> > Chris McDonough suggests to ponder further structuring of the ZTK into >>>

Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of today's developer meeting

2010-03-02 Thread Chris McDonough
On 3/2/10 1:09 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote: > Hi there, > > > Chris McDonough suggests to ponder further structuring of the ZTK into > > separate sub-sets which might allow us to get better mileage regarding > > maintenance and release management. He gave the exampl

Re: [Zope-dev] Where is the position of BlueBream in Zope ecosystem ?

2010-01-22 Thread Chris McDonough
Cool picture, but I might put ZCA at its own level (maybe by moving Zope Toolkit to the framework level, or giving it its own level). - C Lennart Regebro wrote: > Does this mailinglist accept attachements? > > Let's test. > > > > --

Re: [Zope-dev] Where is the position of BlueBream in Zope ecosystem ?

2010-01-22 Thread Chris McDonough
Lennart Regebro wrote: > >>> 5. There is also BFG, which doesn't include/build on the ZTK (as the others >>> do). >> Right, it's "loosely coupled" with the ZCA, but you can throw that out too, >> if you like? > > Chris has to answer that. BFG uses some Zope software, like, say, Pylons uses soft

Re: [Zope-dev] Where is the position of BlueBream in Zope ecosystem ?

2010-01-22 Thread Chris McDonough
Wichert Akkerman wrote: > On 2010-1-22 18:41, Tres Seaver wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Wichert Akkerman wrote: >>> On 1/22/10 14:46 , Lennart Regebro wrote: * BFG is a minimalistic web framework built on Zope ideas and experiences, but as a part of it's

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZF] Announcement: 2010 Zope Foundation Board Elections and General Meeting

2010-01-22 Thread Chris McDonough
Gah, sorry for the multilist cross-post, this should have gone to the foundation list only. - C Chris McDonough wrote: > I nominate Tres Seaver. > > - C > > Tres Seaver wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> (apologies in advan

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZF] Announcement: 2010 Zope Foundation Board Elections and General Meeting

2010-01-22 Thread Chris McDonough
I nominate Tres Seaver. - C Tres Seaver wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > (apologies in advance for the cross-post: we need this to reach the > whole Zope community). > > The Zope Foundation board is pleased to announce the regular 2010 > general meeting of the found

Re: [Zope-dev] BFG Logo

2010-01-21 Thread Chris McDonough
Looks good, thanks! JC Brand wrote: > After some criticism in the office (too grainy). Final version, I'll now > stop spamming the list ;) > > http://imgur.com/ppVzh.png > > > > Chris McDonough wrote: >> After messing around in the Gimp, and failing utterl

Re: [Zope-dev] BFG Logo

2010-01-21 Thread Chris McDonough
After messing around in the Gimp, and failing utterly, I am sorry, the answer is no. - C Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: > Hi, > > is there a black on white BFG-logo we can use on zope.de? The white on > black logo from the website is not suitable. > > > juh > DZUG e.V. > > ___

Re: [Zope-dev] Where is the position of BlueBream in Zope ecosystem ?

2010-01-21 Thread Chris McDonough
Everything Tres said I agree with. I think it's useful for descriptions of Zope-related frameworks to include BFG and other frameworks that use a small number of Zope technologies. But I think some distinction needs to be made between "the ZTK" and "some Zope packages". In particular, I'm unco

Re: [Zope-dev] Stepping back as Zope 2 release manager

2010-01-11 Thread Chris McDonough
Andreas Jung wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi there, > > I would like to inform you that I intent to retreat from the Zope 2 > release manager position soon. I have been serving the Zope community in > this position for almost seven years and now it is time to move

Re: [Zope-dev] Adapter registration in ZCML provides IUserPreferredCharsets lost ?

2010-01-10 Thread Chris McDonough
Baiju M wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Baiju M wrote: >> Hi All, >> There was an adapter registration provides IUserPreferredCharsets. >> I can see it has moved to zope.i18n.locales with some others here: >> http://svn.zope.org/zope.app.i18n/trunk/src/zope/app/i18n/configure.zc

[Zope-dev] new zope.schema and zope.configuration releases

2010-01-05 Thread Chris McDonough
FYI, I just made two new releases: zope.schema 3.6.1 zope.configuration 3.7.1 These releases provide basic compatibility with Jython. - C ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Chris McDonough
Strong +1 from me (although my vote is likely not meaningful) Baiju M wrote: > Hi All, > I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" > as "BlueBream". The main use for name is documentation. > But the package named "bluebream" will not provide > any part of framework code by it

Re: [Zope-dev] patterns for using sphinx with the Zope Toolkit?

2010-01-04 Thread Chris McDonough
Benji York wrote: > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: >> Yeah. I haven't thought about this much, so it might be bollocks, but I >> think something like this is what I'm after: >> >> .. code-block-setup:: >> >> import sys

Re: [Zope-dev] patterns for using sphinx with the Zope Toolkit?

2010-01-03 Thread Chris McDonough
Lennart Regebro wrote: > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 23:14, Benji York wrote: >> In both of those cases normal doctest blocks seem appropriate. > > Not if you don't want the output in the formatting, or if you don't > want the >>> brackets. > Yeah. I haven't thought about this much, so it might be

Re: [Zope-dev] patterns for using sphinx with the Zope Toolkit?

2010-01-02 Thread Chris McDonough
Martijn Faassen wrote: > Hi there, > > I am interested in creating sphinx-driven documentation for Zope Toolkit > packages. I'd like to maintain the documentation for a package (say, > zope.component) in that package, in a 'doc' directory. > > I'm wondering what experiences people have with mai

Re: [Zope-dev] removing zope.app from the ZTK

2009-12-29 Thread Chris McDonough
I don't think "the ZTK" as defined by the historical constraints under discussion here has much attraction for a large number of folks who are otherwise willing to put effort into maintaining Zope packages. For these folks, any reduction in number of dependencies and test maintenance is a net w

Re: [Zope-dev] small manuel bugfix

2009-12-26 Thread Chris McDonough
Benji York wrote: > On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: >> Yeah. I'm a fan of unit tests. > > Yep, me too. To be clear, I do want unit tests in the form of a doctest (like > http://svn.zope.org/manuel/trunk/src/manuel/bugs.txt?view=markup). Which

Re: [Zope-dev] small manuel bugfix

2009-12-25 Thread Chris McDonough
Benji York wrote: > On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: >> I added a branch of manuel to the Zope SVN that fixes the codeblock plugin >> when >> you use codeblock "roles" such as: > > Looks good. Add tests and I'll merge and rele

Re: [Zope-dev] small manuel bugfix

2009-12-25 Thread Chris McDonough
Ugh, that patch is rendered backwards... but you get the idea. Chris McDonough wrote: > I added a branch of manuel to the Zope SVN that fixes the codeblock plugin > when > you use codeblock "roles" such as: > > .. code-block:: python > :linenos: > > Cur

[Zope-dev] small manuel bugfix

2009-12-25 Thread Chris McDonough
I added a branch of manuel to the Zope SVN that fixes the codeblock plugin when you use codeblock "roles" such as: .. code-block:: python :linenos: Currently it only works without roles, e.g.: .. code-block:: python The branch is at svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/manuel/branches/chrism

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 and WSGI

2009-12-22 Thread Chris McDonough
Tres Seaver wrote: > I set out to fix these bugs in ZPublisher.WSGIPublisher.WSGIResponse, > and was dismayed to find it an untested hack-up of the original Publish > module, with an untested subclass of HTTPResponse, itself almost > completely test-free. So I went down the rabbit hole, and got ne

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