, all my machines can now restart Zope in under 3
seconds ;-)
http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/1260/view
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On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 21:27:43 +0200 (CEST), Dieter Maurer
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I'm about to start looking at running Zope on python 1.6 (Im feeling
the need for better Unicode support).
Almost surely, it will work.
But it probably will not use the Unicode support
thousands (well, I've tested it with only 1536, but I don't know of any
limit) of objects with a user interface optimized for such a large
folder.
I'm interested, but don't have time to install it at the moment. Could
someone post a gif of it's user interface please?
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Manager derived container, add
def all_meta_types(self):
return _meta_types_registry
Then use register_xxx_class(context,.. in place of
context.registerClass.
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P.S. I wouldn't mind if someone posted this as a HOWTO. :-)
I think theres two, slighly different versions in already HOWTOs ;-)
Any chance of getting this into the Zope distribution?
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quickly when viewed over DSL - the connection bandwidth
doesnt affect how long the page takes to calculate! A modem user will
receive the first few bytes equally quickly - it just takes them
longer the receive the rest.
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rd/wstring
The current patch (version 0.3) is incompatible with the previous ones
(but this time it 'feels right'. I plan to keep this interface
stable). It needs python 2.0, and uses the new built-in unicode type.
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This problem goes away if I don't compile python with garbage
collection support. I guess I shouldn't be suprised.
Is anyone else using Zope with python 2.0? (on NT, fwiw)
I am occasionally seeing protection faults
sage when you posted the message, or there
is something strange with the object's type.
Unless you are using a pre-release python 1.6 or 2.0 - If so the name
of your type might not get printed if it is unicode
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use they derive from
SimpleItem.Item, which has __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__.
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Using __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ the object doesnt
_need_ to have a context (although it might be useful for other
things), so you can drop the __of__
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There is support for an optional C extension, which gave me a 12x
speed increase. Check out the source for xmlrpclib.py for pointers.
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of this header in some detail in a recent HowTo:
http://www.zope.org/Members/htrd/howto/caching
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of
the file gets updated?
An incomplete transaction at the end of Data.fs gets ignored and
is subsequently overwritten by the next new transaction. Data is always
appended to the file.
.except during an 'Undo', when one byte is rewritten in the middle
of the file.
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OFS.Item.SimpleItem (that is,
almost all high level objects) have the
__allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ flag set. Your method would
be callable from through-the-web dtml too.
The basic rules of Zope security are fairly easy; its the exceptions
that cause the problems.
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without causing a conflict, however your creation test has no
concurrency.
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nt CVS of python 2.0. This (and
other) bugs have been fixed relative to 1.6
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the structured text quoting of python source right
first time.
10. There are too many empty pages, because someone has clicked on a ?
next to word that happened to be a WikiName. Useful pages lie hidden
behind a sea of links to empty pages.
rant ends.
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good idea...
What's wrong with a mailing list? Is this just a case of NIH?
This thread has already been more productive than anything Ive done on
a Zope Wiki over the last year, and taken a fraction of the effort.
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| that were subsequently ignored - I guess because they got
lost in the
and from the WikiNG proposal:
For more elaborate editorial and commentary annotations, i can
see layered documents, using mixin
.
Rather, the tier is usually refered to as the presentation. When a
choice has to be made, such as the Architecture section, Template is
used as the temporary choice.
so-obvious-you-might-not-have-thought-of-it.. 'Presenter'
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would affect WikiNG until you
suggested the issue.
The inclusive nature of a mailing list is what makes it a useful
community resource.
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reached. My preference is that the discussion leading up to that
concensus takes place on zope-dev.
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Is anyone using Quixote's PTL?
http://www.mems-exchange.org/exchange/software/python/quixote/
It looks like it might be useful in the niche that involves too much
logic for DTML, and too much joining-strings-together to make python
(or PythonMethods) cumbersome.
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But there are
really
two ways to do this, either of which is viable.
1. the right way ;-)
2. Code all of your logic using TTW stuff and Zope
components. Use the
Publisher.Test.test method to call methods of your
Zope components
in unit tests.
Do you really
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I'm not sure exactly what problem you are refering to. It sound's
like an issue of depending on a specific acquired name and having
the name overridden with something bogus
-trivial dtml
can be.(and how ugly error-free dtml is)
hth,
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s is a bug in Acquisition.
Full report and patch at
http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/1066/view
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support the mode of discussion that we are
advocating *better* than *Todays* Wikis
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i.e. it is secure if the key *is* the data, rather than a key to the
data.
Can you explain? I do not see what you're getting at.
Consider how the tree-tag stores its 'session' data. Its impossible to
hijack a tree-tag session because the 'session' state is stored by the
client (in the
Are you suggesting that the session token should actually
store session
data?
As an alternative SessionManager, it appears to have some advatanges that
others do not.
It is the only option (AFAIK) that avoids the session hijacking problem
without relying on security-through-obscurity (the
elif o=='-S': sys.ZMANAGED=1
elif o=='-X':
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that is 'freely available and redistributable by others'.
We are currently using Zope to develop an application that does not
fall into this category. It would be a serious problem for us if
Zope's core had a dependency on code with this type of license.
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is negligible, and all the plausible alternatives need many more
lines of code.
Another advantage is that it promotes testability of the scheduled
events since it is easy (trivial) to reproduce the environment in
which they run when scheduled.
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rg/Members/htrd/howto/FunctionTemplate
you would use
def a_method(self,md):
do_stuff_with(md['param1'],md['param2'])
a_method = FunctionTemplate(a_method)
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That looks like it'll do the trick... I wonder if there's any way you
can role it up into a Product so that I don't need to have
FunctionTemplate.py in each folder of a product that needs to use it?
Im working on a set of tools to aid my transition to a dtml-free Zope.
Eventually I will
I'm not sure I grok what rightness has to do about it. I
think this is
right, to me wrong == broken. This is not broken.
Let me persuade you.
* someone adds an property named feed to an object at an
intermediate
location in the containment heirarchy. This breaks the cron job that
is great. Ive been using it extensively for
several months now without problem.
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('View',('get_name',),('Anonymous',)),
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Okay, this did the trick, but I'm not very happy with the result :-(
I don't want the DisplayClass to be acquiring and I don't really see
(from a moral standpoint ;-) why I should need to mix in an Acquisiton
class to make security work :-S
I suspect that was a rhetorical question, but ill
ly wrapped) object. Pathnames are not useful, because they don't
last for the object's lifetime.
How come? because you want the identity to remain unchanged even after
the object is moved? or duplicated?
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Anyone know what those attributes are?
Heres a good trick: add this method to your class to see which attributes it
is asked for, but doesnt implement.
def __getattr__(self,id,reg={}):
if not reg.has_key(id):
print `id`
reg[id]=id
raise
if the data is larger than the in-memory buffer *and*
doesn't already look like a producer with 'more' as a method.
Wahay! thats been on my todo list for ages. Ill take a look when I get
some time.
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I should also note that if you create a producer, you will have to
override the __len__ method to return the entire length of the data.
This is because RESPONSE.write doesn't allow you to set the
length of a
write and there code during output that checks the size of the written
object.
...but can you bind self to the context or, more perversely,
context to
the container?
As the first line in your PythonMethod:
self,context = context,self
But why would you want to?
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console, notice the panel, and click the (only) OK button.
Yes, thats a PITA. Have a look at Microsoft's Knowledge Base article
Q188296
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might usually expect.
Your object must have a factory method somewhere I suggest adding
an extra method to your object (I always name it '_after_create') and
arrange for it to be called by your factory once the new object is
installed in its container.
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rger
cache - with an overall gain in performance.
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ot adverse to using bytecodehacks in my
straight python projects too. Perhaps Im just working with a broader
definition of 'method')
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feel free to contribute some.
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a relational database, there is
indeed a way to do that. Hmmm...
Or if your ZClass has a python base class, then a __setstate__ method
could be added to do the same thing incrementally. Like all changes to
a Python base class, this requires restarting the server.
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2. The ability to rename properties after instances of the classes have
been created (and have
advantage, for the same reason, only
neater)
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Im have trouble tracking down why one specific method is needing
authentication. Can anyone suggest any tips or tools?
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Shane's ZDebug tool can help
(Status: pending. and has been for 8 months :-(
In reality, I think it is only a theoretical problem. The current
implementation takes much more care than it is required to by the
language reference. Indeed, extra effort was taken in Python 2.0's
implementation of Unicode.
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sense as the default configuration)
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Toby Dickenson writes:
... protocol specific access rights ...
Please No.
Zope security is complex enough without having to worry about
different security settings depending on how a method is accessed
ecutable).
On win32 there are several other options, depending on your users. You
could hide the source directory, or use Explorer's Web View to give it
a less intimidating appearance.
I hope this helps,
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you can get hold of Microsoft
Visual Studio 6.0
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pretty new to Python (but learning fast!), so
any snippets of sample code would be much obliged.
Search on www.zope.org for SiteAccess.
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to my sites?
I didnt realize V-H-M was coming in 2.3.0, and developed an
alternative that fills a similar niche:
http://www.zope.org/Members/htrd/howto/host-server
This option has fewer 'moving parts' than anything based on SiteAccess
(which I still feel uncomfortable with, sorry evan)
Toby
the complexity
threshold for a paranoid admin to be comfortable.
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Then again, there's the advantage of having something
included as a standard part of Zope.
Yes, thats true. I would like to see this being rolled into the standard
zope (and there is a Collector entry saying that), although I think its
unlikely given the 'competition' from VHM.
Having said
I am assuming that the code you provided goes into a
manage_addCustomIndex method that is part of a CustomIndex
Python Product.
hehehehe, nothing so general-purpose as that ;-)
You will need to implement a subclass derived from one of
the standard
indexes to provide your custom
ontains up-to-date objects when a transaction
starts.
ZODB will also raise a ConflictError when loading an object into the
cache for reading, if it has been modified since the start of the
transaction.
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Is there a hook for before the transaction is committed for objects which
subclass Persistent?
__getstate__ ?
But why would you want that?
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Invoking C from Python
is fast, but invoking Python from C apparently requires a lot of work.
Invoking a python function from anywhere (even from another python
function) requires alot of work.
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between the python2 and
the 1.52 from zope?
Can somebody give me instructions to solve this?
Sounds like python 1.5.x binary is picking up the python 2.0 library
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Could the author have meant to write 'Exception' here instead of 'Except'?
I am running Zope 2.3.0 stable.
The current cvs has this changed to 'except AttributeError'
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h on win32, not sure about other platforms.
The binary release contains extensions that link with the python15.dll
They need to be recompiled for 2.0, and will then link with
python20.dll
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of your content you will need to use
VirtualHostMonster (or something similar) so that they refer to the
final server.
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that it is wholly
irrelevant to me.
This morning (for me) zope-dev had 87 new messages in 29 threads. Do
people really find this to be too many?
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into the Zope core, and they do cover a large part of your CSN
problem (plus several related problems that you havent realised
yet. ;-)
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On Thu, 03 May 2001 17:14:28 +0100, Toby Dickenson
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On Thu, 3 May 2001 11:45:58 -0400, Andreas Jung
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http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/HTTPContentNegotiation
http://www.zope.org/Members/htrd/wstring
Ive expressed before that I would
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I'm pretty certain was the problem
in my case...
That is exactly correct.
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it arrives, will be based on these patches.
(ps, Ill be releasing an updated patch for Zope 2.3.2 in the next few
days)
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, especially so that
ZCatalog can be used in ZODB applications outside Zope.
Is it because other non-Zope applications might not be so proficient
at performing retries?
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Having said that, Python's garbage collector *needs* support from
container objects. Acquisition wrappers dont implement this support
(yet), and therefore I suspect a Python upgrade will not help you with
this memory leak problem.
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, but not always. If you
explain what you are trying to achieve then we may be able to point
out a better alternative.
(some early drafts of the Zope book encouraged context-based
programing in scenarious where it was quite dangerous; Im not sure if
this is currently true)
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Right now ZCatalog randomly generates ConflictErrors even if there are no
conflicts
catalog object, but
not on the index BTrees.
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is easy to use, but a
little simplistic. You can achieve more (with only a little effort) by
handling the caching headers yourself.
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to solve this problem ??
How are you gluing apache to zope? if apache is proxying http (as with
mod_proxy, or mod_rewrite) then it works fine.
Im not sure about pcgi...
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://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ZEOReplicatedStorage/SurviveTotalLossOfStorage
Until then, http://www.it.uc3m.es/~ptb/nbd/ looks promising. Has
anyone tried FileStorage over a network block device?
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below. I
have commercial products that use this Unicode support, so you can be
sure it will be maintained for some time. Further, DC have committed
to providing similar in Zope 2.4.x and there is a good chance that it
will be based on these patches.
http://www.zope.org/Members/htrd/wstring
Toby
whether you (personally, or as an organisation) really find it to be
'obnoxious'?
Personally, I am *happy* to respect clause 4.
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not surwe which,
2.3.2?) has a new BTree implementation that reduces bloat by modifying
fewer buckets (it also doesnt have the column showing index size)
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observed that characteristic had changed in a recent Zope
release... hmmm, Ill take a look.
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not aware of?
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I think it has changed for FieldIndexes.
Yes, from UnKeywordIndex.py
newKeywords = getattr(obj, self.id, ())
You can now make
the distinction
between doesnt have that attribute and attribute is one of
[None, '', [],
()] within a Field Index.
Reviewing UnKeywordIndex.py, I
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it is good for; that is
trivial document templating.
dtml-in is a particularly bad at polluting the dtml namespace (which
is particularly serious because you have only got one of them)
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looks right to me. The catalog should contain the real
values.
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= re.compile('([^ ]+) (?:[^ :?#]+://[^ ?#/]*)?([^ ]+)((
HTTP/([0-9.]+))$|$)')
def crack_request (r):
m = REQUEST.match (r)
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been closed.
I think it makes sense that Zope should replace sys.stderr with an
object that sends messages to zLog, however zLog itself sometimes
wites to sys.stderr.
Any thoughts on the right way to fix this?
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it very easy to open
a security hole. HTMLFile should be avoided unless you have a very
good reason to need it.
(there was a full description of the potential security hole in the
Collector)
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