Re: [Zope-dev] Future of ZClasses

2006-09-28 Thread Jonathan
- Original Message - From: "Dieter Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Future of ZClasses Jonathan wrote at 2006-9-28 15:11 -0400: ... For internal a

Re: [Zope-dev] Future of ZClasses

2006-09-28 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jonathan wrote at 2006-9-28 15:11 -0400: > ... >For internal applications I would rather leave the ZClasses in place and try >to fix whatever breaks when zope is upgraded, however the application that >caused my initial question is for an external client (with no in-house zope >expertise of thei

Re: [Zope-dev] Future of ZClasses

2006-09-28 Thread Jonathan
- Original Message - From: "Dieter Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Future of ZClasses Jonathan wrote at 2006-9-27 12:42 -0400: I found a thread

Re: [Zope-dev] Future of ZClasses

2006-09-28 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jonathan wrote at 2006-9-27 12:42 -0400: >I found a thread (from March 2006) discussing the future of zclasses, but i >could not determine if a 'final' decision had been made. > >According to Changes.txt for Zope 2.10.0: > >"ZClasses are deprecated and should no longer be used. In addition any cod

Re: [Zope-dev] Future of ZClasses

2006-09-28 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 9/27/06, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's definitely time to work on a replacement. Yes. And here is my short vision of that. Comments are appreciated. 1. We have a base content class used to create content objects. This has the concept of type, pretty much like CMFs portal_type

Re: [Zope-dev] Future of ZClasses

2006-09-28 Thread Chris Withers
Jonathan wrote: BTW - nothing beats ZClasses and DTML for quick-and-dirty demos, one-time applications, and rapid-prototyping! I prefer to use page templates, python scripts and PropertyManagers for this ;-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting -

Re: [Zope-dev] Future of ZClasses

2006-09-27 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 28. September 2006 06:32:32 +0200 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --On 27. September 2006 15:09:13 -0400 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jonathan wrote: ... From a 'robustness' and 'sleep-better-at-nite' perspective I would rather spend the time making sure the applica

Re: [Zope-dev] Future of ZClasses

2006-09-27 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 27. September 2006 15:09:13 -0400 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jonathan wrote: ... From a 'robustness' and 'sleep-better-at-nite' perspective I would rather spend the time making sure the application is rock-solid (by replacing the zclasses once and for all) and not have to wo

Re: [Zope-dev] Future of ZClasses

2006-09-27 Thread Jim Fulton
Jonathan wrote: ... From a 'robustness' and 'sleep-better-at-nite' perspective I would rather spend the time making sure the application is rock-solid (by replacing the zclasses once and for all) and not have to worry about this issue everytime a new release of zope is installed. Right. Appli

Re: [Zope-dev] Future of ZClasses

2006-09-27 Thread Jonathan
- Original Message - From: "Jim Fulton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Andreas Jung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Future of ZClasses Jona

Re: [Zope-dev] Future of ZClasses

2006-09-27 Thread Jim Fulton
Andreas Jung wrote: --On 27. September 2006 13:47:26 -0400 Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... i don't suppose anyone has an 'automagical' utility that instantly transforms zclasses to python classes, and then changes all dtml/external method usage do they? ...didn't think so ;-) Also

Re: [Zope-dev] Future of ZClasses

2006-09-27 Thread Jim Fulton
Jonathan wrote: - Original Message - From: "Andreas Jung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; I found a thread (from March 2006) discussing the future of zclasses, but i could not determine if a 'final' decision had been made. According to Changes.txt for Zope 2.

Re: [Zope-dev] Future of ZClasses

2006-09-27 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 27. September 2006 13:47:26 -0400 Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... i don't suppose anyone has an 'automagical' utility that instantly transforms zclasses to python classes, and then changes all dtml/external method usage do they? ...didn't think so ;-) Also I don't think so. Jus

Re: [Zope-dev] Future of ZClasses

2006-09-27 Thread Jonathan
- Original Message - From: "Andreas Jung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; I found a thread (from March 2006) discussing the future of zclasses, but i could not determine if a 'final' decision had been made. According to Changes.txt for Zope 2.10.0: "ZClasses

Re: [Zope-dev] Future of ZClasses

2006-09-27 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 27. September 2006 12:42:23 -0400 Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I found a thread (from March 2006) discussing the future of zclasses, but i could not determine if a 'final' decision had been made. According to Changes.txt for Zope 2.10.0: "ZClasses are deprecated and should no lon