Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-23 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23.02.2009 17:20 Uhr, Simon Michael wrote: > Andreas Jung wrote: >> Everyone is invited to actively participate (means: get an account >> and add content > > That needs a little more. First it's not clear how to get an account > (currently, add /jo

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-23 Thread Simon Michael
Andreas Jung wrote: > Everyone is invited to actively participate (means: get an account > and add content That needs a little more. First it's not clear how to get an account (currently, add /join_form to the url). Second, after submitting the join form I just got a login form and the account d

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-22 Thread robert rottermann
hi andreas, thank you very much for your efforts > Concerning the look & feel: unless someone volunteers for taking over > the responsibility for providing a Plone theme, I will step forward > trying to coordinate this with the design efforts that are currently > in progress for the relaunch of w

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-22 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21.02.2009 5:09 Uhr, Martin Aspeli wrote: > > I basically gave up trying to get volunteers to provide content, and the > timings conspired so that I didn't have time to do any more of it > myself. We still have a Plone 3 theme, a visual design,

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-21 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Aspeli wrote: > Chris Withers wrote: >> Andreas Jung wrote: >>> because of the failure of the new.zope.org project I would like to put >>> the hat on for reorganizing the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org. >> Is this failure official or is there

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 14:11, Martin Aspeli wrote: > IMHO, the way the Zope community is structured, it's very hard to get > people to contribute this kind of thing. I hope things are different > now. The work that happened with the Zope book is encouraging, for > example. However, most people wh

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-21 Thread Martin Aspeli
Lennart Regebro wrote: > On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:59, Martin Aspeli wrote: >> We > > Yes. But not *I*. And you asked if *I* could get it done. :) Perhaps > you meant if I could nag people into doing it. I doubt that I could. > I'm not good at making people do things for free. :) > > I think th

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:59, Martin Aspeli wrote: > We Yes. But not *I*. And you asked if *I* could get it done. :) Perhaps you meant if I could nag people into doing it. I doubt that I could. I'm not good at making people do things for free. :) I think the way your formulated this is indicati

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-21 Thread Martin Aspeli
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On Feb 21, 2009, at 08:55 , Andreas Jung wrote: > >> - - are there any legal issues with the design & layout in case we >> want to >> make modifications? I know that the designer of new.zope.org theme >> made some tr

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-21 Thread Martin Aspeli
Lennart Regebro wrote: > On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:14, Martin Aspeli wrote: >> Please go make this happen if you can. It's very important. I can't anymore. > > As far as I can see, it's a question of > - setting up a server, I would recommend a Plone site with the new Zope theme. We have this a

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:14, Martin Aspeli wrote: > Please go make this happen if you can. It's very important. I can't anymore. As far as I can see, it's a question of - setting up a server, I would recommend a Plone site with the new Zope theme. - creating a zodb.zope.org DNS record and point

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-21 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 21, 2009, at 08:55 , Andreas Jung wrote: > - - are there any legal issues with the design & layout in case we > want to > make modifications? I know that the designer of new.zope.org theme > made some trouble when it came to discussion about

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-21 Thread Martin Aspeli
Andreas Jung wrote: > I just checked new.zope.org and I think that your idea appears > reasonable. The only thing I dislike about the new.zope.org design is > the navigation tree at the bottom of the page. All other parts of the > design could be re-used directly - perhaps with some slightly modif

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-21 Thread Martin Aspeli
Lennart Regebro wrote: > On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 05:14, Martin Aspeli wrote: >> The new.zope.org initiative died because no-one could write any content. >> Even then 5-10 pages of content requires for a very basic microsite was >> too much, and several separate calls for volunteers produced almost

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-20 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21.02.2009 5:14 Uhr, Martin Aspeli wrote: > > We already have all the infrastructure and code we need. If you can > accept that a 'microsite' is a folder (zope.org/projects/zope2 or /zodb > or /whatever), then we already have skeletal microsites

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-20 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21.02.2009 8:16 Uhr, Lennart Regebro wrote: > About wiki/vs microsite, I also would hope for a microsite. Wikis are > good for community generated docs/howtos and stuff, which we already > have for Zope2. And a pretty good one at that: > http://wik

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 05:14, Martin Aspeli wrote: > The new.zope.org initiative died because no-one could write any content. > Even then 5-10 pages of content requires for a very basic microsite was > too much, and several separate calls for volunteers produced almost no > actual content, even i

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 18:49, Andreas Jung wrote: > because of the failure of the new.zope.org project I would like to put > the hat on for reorganizing the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org. The > goal is having up some pages with the downloads, basic pointers and > links with the final release of

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-20 Thread Martin Aspeli
Andreas Jung wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 20.02.2009 15:23 Uhr, Martijn Faassen wrote: >> I really hope someone provides the resources to create a microsite >> instead of "the Zope 3 approach on wiki.zope.org". Grok is doing two >> things: a Plone-based site wh

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-20 Thread Martin Aspeli
Chris Withers wrote: > Andreas Jung wrote: >> because of the failure of the new.zope.org project I would like to put >> the hat on for reorganizing the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org. > > Is this failure official or is there just no action on this? Let's say both. I basically gave up trying to

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-20 Thread Martijn Faassen
Simon Michael wrote: > Martijn Faassen wrote: >> and a Sphinx-based website for official documentation maintained in SVN. > > +1 of course, > >> Anyway, overall I'm a big supporter of the "microsite" approach. It's >> the only approach that actually got us to new web sites over the last years. >

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-20 Thread Simon Michael
Martijn Faassen wrote: > and a Sphinx-based website for official documentation maintained in SVN. +1 of course, > Anyway, overall I'm a big supporter of the "microsite" approach. It's > the only approach that actually got us to new web sites over the last years. I must quibble: I agree with you

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-20 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20.02.2009 15:23 Uhr, Martijn Faassen wrote: > > I really hope someone provides the resources to create a microsite > instead of "the Zope 3 approach on wiki.zope.org". Grok is doing two > things: a Plone-based site where people can contribute do

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-20 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey Andreas, Andreas Jung wrote: > There are basically two options: create a dedicated microsite (similar > to grok.zope.org) or follow the Zope 3 approach on wiki.zope.org. Unless > someone provides enough resources in helping, I would like to go with > the wiki approach since it is much easier

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-20 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19.02.2009 22:14 Uhr, Chris Withers wrote: > Andreas Jung wrote: >> See this thread: >> >> http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-web/2009-January/thread.html > > Shame, oh well, I think dictatorship is the way to go and I think you'd > make a pretty

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-19 Thread Chris Withers
Andreas Jung wrote: > See this thread: > > http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-web/2009-January/thread.html Shame, oh well, I think dictatorship is the way to go and I think you'd make a pretty good dictator, so go for it :-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-19 Thread Simon Michael
Hey Andreas.. yay, thank you for taking this on. I'd like to help however I can. You asked about write access on wiki.zope.org - assuming you mean zope manager access, I've added an account for you, see private mail. (For the record, other manager accounts on wiki.zope.org at this time are: ba

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-19 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19.02.2009 19:16 Uhr, Chris Withers wrote: > Andreas Jung wrote: >> because of the failure of the new.zope.org project I would like to put >> the hat on for reorganizing the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org. > > Is this failure official or is there

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-19 Thread Chris Withers
Andreas Jung wrote: > because of the failure of the new.zope.org project I would like to put > the hat on for reorganizing the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org. Is this failure official or is there just no action on this? Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting