Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread bakhtiar a hamid
On Thursday 09 February 2006 18:17, Martijn Faassen wrote: > > Yes. Let's make a procedure for that: > > * find the document you think would be good to have > > * propose it on this list > http://www.jrandolph.com/blog/?p=23#comment-324 has a good comment with good links. http://zissue.berlios.d

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Andrew Sawyers
> Something like http://plone.org/products? Why not? If it fits the bill. > > > zope.org should not be a member login based site IMNSHO. > > Why not have a members.zope.org that is a community site, with wikis and > the lot, where the community can play their games, and a zope3.org and/or

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Rob Page
On Feb 9, 2006, at 5:26 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: > Why not have a members.zope.org that is a community > site, with wikis and the lot, where the community can > play their games, and a zope3.org and/or a zope.org > that is the outward facing part of the community, > much more tightly controlled fo

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Martin Aspeli
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 14:28:22 -, Andrew Sawyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 14:09 +0100, Max M wrote: Chris Withers wrote: If we cannot make it work in Zope 2 or 3, maybe we should use rails ;-) I know Max is kidding; but to comment to Chris. One of the main prob

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Martin Aspeli
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:00:43 -, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tonico Strasser wrote: IMHO, the most important change for reducing visual design complexity, is to get rid of the /Members section, including log in/log out, and the whole TTW content management system. I think

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 2/9/06, Andrew Sawyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 14:28 +0100, Lennart Regebro wrote: > > But other than that, I think we should > > focus on having a zope3.org. > A zope.org and zope3.org? Yup. -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management

Re: [ZWeb] zopeweb: about section

2006-02-09 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
baiju m schrieb: On 2/9/06, Michael Haubenwallner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd like to split up the 'about' section a bit further and want to reintroduce the 'microsites' idea. This will be good, but I think no need of creating directories under 'zopeweb/content/about/' for example, what

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 00:05 +, Martin Aspeli wrote: > Hi Martijn, > > > I would say, let's not bite off more than we can chew. Getting a punch > web-site is not easy. The hard part is reducing the amount of content, not > creating it. I'd say focus on Zope 3 for now - it's what we want t

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 14:09 +0100, Max M wrote: > Chris Withers wrote: > > > If we cannot make it work in Zope 2 or 3, maybe we should use rails ;-) > I know Max is kidding; but to comment to Chris. One of the main problems to avoid is 'kruft' and bit-rot. zope.org suffers this to the point o

Re: [ZWeb] zopeweb: about section

2006-02-09 Thread baiju m
On 2/9/06, Michael Haubenwallner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to split up the 'about' section a bit further and want to > reintroduce the 'microsites' idea. This will be good, but I think no need of creating directories under 'zopeweb/content/about/' for example, what about moving conten

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 14:28 +0100, Lennart Regebro wrote: > But other than that, I think we should > focus on having a zope3.org. A zope.org and zope3.org? Andrew > ___ > Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zo

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 2/9/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm still hopeful we can at least swap out zope.org's frontpage and > initial pages with something better that describes both Zope 2, Zope 3, > and its relationship. Quite a bit of text is already written that > attempts that which is in codes

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Max M
Chris Withers wrote: Tonico Strasser wrote: IMHO, the most important change for reducing visual design complexity, is to get rid of the /Members section, including log in/log out, and the whole TTW content management system. I think it's much easier to add and update content with SVN. (This

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Chris Withers
Tonico Strasser wrote: IMHO, the most important change for reducing visual design complexity, is to get rid of the /Members section, including log in/log out, and the whole TTW content management system. I think it's much easier to add and update content with SVN. (This would also effectively

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Chris Withers
Martijn Faassen wrote: Besides brochure-style information, I'm less confident about presenting up to date documentation on Zope 2, however. If we get people to edit the Zope 2 documentation for inclusion, then I'm all for it. I have my doubts that we'll get enough community interest in doing so

Re: [ZWeb] Running zope site using ReST

2006-02-09 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
baiju m wrote: Hi, How to run a webstie using these ReST files ? http://codespeak.net/svn/z3/zopeweb/trunk/ I think worldcookery.com and tiks.org are running using ReST and Zope 3. Are we planning to use any of these? Some thoughts on what you could do localy with the SVN checkout ::

[ZWeb] zopeweb: about section

2006-02-09 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
I'd like to split up the 'about' section a bit further and want to reintroduce the 'microsites' idea. 'About/Zope Technology' (currently at http://codespeak.net/svn/z3/zopeweb/trunk/content/about/about.txt) would be one main section of the 'About' area:: - Zope Technology - Microsites

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Mark Pratt
On Feb 9, 2006, at 11:22 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Mark Pratt wrote: [snip] If the idea is to deliver the message that Zope 3 is great, clutting the message with Zope 2 cruft (not the same as if we have some really great zope 2 documentation, but what's there has rotted quite a bit) is

[ZWeb] Running zope site using ReST

2006-02-09 Thread baiju m
Hi, How to run a webstie using these ReST files ? http://codespeak.net/svn/z3/zopeweb/trunk/ I think worldcookery.com and tiks.org are running using ReST and Zope 3. Are we planning to use any of these? Thanks, Baiju M ___ Zope-web maillist - Zop

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Max M
Martijn Faassen wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi Martijn, * are we going to target Zope 3 only with this site, or Zope 2 as well? I wrote text to cover both, as Zope 2 is currently the breadwinner of most of us. I think we can get enthusiasm more easily for Zope 3 however; nobody is going

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Martijn Faassen
Mark Pratt wrote: [snip] If the idea is to deliver the message that Zope 3 is great, clutting the message with Zope 2 cruft (not the same as if we have some really great zope 2 documentation, but what's there has rotted quite a bit) is not likely to help. Maybe we can (and should) get there

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Martijn Faassen
Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi Martijn, * are we going to target Zope 3 only with this site, or Zope 2 as well? I wrote text to cover both, as Zope 2 is currently the breadwinner of most of us. I think we can get enthusiasm more easily for Zope 3 however; nobody is going to write Zope 2 tutorials

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Mark Pratt
Hi, Just one point. On Feb 9, 2006, at 9:47 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 04:17:25 -, baiju m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think we can have these kind of documentation: Documentation - - Zope 3 Tutorial - Zope 2 Tutorial (Using Five and so lead the user to

[ZWeb] zopeweb: documentation section

2006-02-09 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
Followup to: zope web status report 2006-02-06 http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-web/2006-February/003676.html Martin Aspeli wrote: > Do we really want to add to the confusion by throwing in old Zope 2 > documentation, that still refers to Zope 2.6 and has one gazillion very > confusing in-li

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Martin Aspeli
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 04:17:25 -, baiju m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think we can have these kind of documentation: Documentation - - Zope 3 Tutorial - Zope 2 Tutorial (Using Five and so lead the user towards Zope3) - What's new in {Zope2|3|CMF|Five} releases - ZopeBook (Zope 2